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Patrick vd Eem is gevraagd door Peter de Vries om mee te gaan naar de US voor de emmy uitreiking . .
Op 4 sept krijgt hij uitsluitsel of hij een visum krijgt.
Op 4 sept krijgt hij uitsluitsel of hij een visum krijgt.
kan ik je nu al vertellen dat hij geen visum krijgtquote:Op maandag 1 september 2008 20:42 schreef bastibro het volgende:
Patrick vd Eem is gevraagd door Peter de Vries om mee te gaan naar de US voor de emmy uitreiking . .
Op 4 sept krijgt hij uitsluitsel of hij een visum krijgt.
, eens een crimineel altijd een crimineel daar zijn americanen niet zo flauw in 
Daar zou je wel eens gelijk in kunnen hebben, jammer eigenlijk zou wel wat herrie veroorzaken daar.quote:Op dinsdag 2 september 2008 00:04 schreef duikkie het volgende:
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kan ik je nu al vertellen dat hij geen visum krijgt
Ik zie de koppen al "Crimineel bij Emmy's"man dat trekkken die Republikeinen niet...
FOK!'s rode weduwe.
Dat denk ik ook Tmaatje, het zou allicht leven in de brouwerij brengen wanneer hij erbij zou zijn.
Bovendien zou het de zaak nog wat meer publiciteit opleveren en uiteindelijk is Patrick wel een van de hoofdrolspelers (geweest).
Ik wacht het ff af tot donderdag, die Amerkanen zijn misschien wel in voor een verzetje en een beetje afleiding komt, vooral voor die republikeinen, ook niet ongelegen ;-)
Bovendien zou het de zaak nog wat meer publiciteit opleveren en uiteindelijk is Patrick wel een van de hoofdrolspelers (geweest).
Ik wacht het ff af tot donderdag, die Amerkanen zijn misschien wel in voor een verzetje en een beetje afleiding komt, vooral voor die republikeinen, ook niet ongelegen ;-)
Nog beter zou zijn als hij op basis van nog openstaande zaken in een Amerikaanse cel zou belanden. Ik zie daarbij de koppen "Dutch Emmy nominee arrested for drug trafficking".....priceless
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it takes a thief to catch a thief !!!
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Ja!!!quote:Op dinsdag 2 september 2008 22:55 schreef mrBhimself het volgende:
Nog beter zou zijn als hij op basis van nog openstaande zaken in een Amerikaanse cel zou belanden. Ik zie daarbij de koppen "Dutch Emmy nominee arrested for drug trafficking".....priceless
en dat zonder Mastercard.... btw Johan555 : in dat geval zou Joran een dief zijn ??
FOK!'s rode weduwe.
een boef moet je met een boef pakken
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Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
LOLquote:Op dinsdag 2 september 2008 23:41 schreef johan555 het volgende:
dat is een gezegde een boef moet je met een boef pakken
slaap lekker addict-jes
duikkie dit las ik :
Kalpoe also allegedly told John that about an hour after dropping the couple off he received a cell phone text message from Van Der Sloot, saying he would e-mail Kalpoe as soon as he got home. Kalpoe said Van Der Sloot never sent the promised message, John said.
Hij ontving een sms van joran en daar stond blijkbaar in dat joran hem zou emailen , zodra hij thuis zou zijn .
Hij heeft nooit de beloofde email onvangen zegt hij .
Waarom zou hij dat gezegd hebben als ze (volgens allerlei berichten) samen nog op msn gezeten
hadden ? OF ... hebben ze helemaal niet op msn gezeten ?
als dit klopt hebben ze s" nachts dus helemaal niet met elkaar gebeld maar heeft K alleen een sms onvangen
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Kalpoe also allegedly told John that about an hour after dropping the couple off he received a cell phone text message from Van Der Sloot, saying he would e-mail Kalpoe as soon as he got home. Kalpoe said Van Der Sloot never sent the promised message, John said.
Hij ontving een sms van joran en daar stond blijkbaar in dat joran hem zou emailen , zodra hij thuis zou zijn .
Hij heeft nooit de beloofde email onvangen zegt hij .
Waarom zou hij dat gezegd hebben als ze (volgens allerlei berichten) samen nog op msn gezeten
hadden ? OF ... hebben ze helemaal niet op msn gezeten ?
als dit klopt hebben ze s" nachts dus helemaal niet met elkaar gebeld maar heeft K alleen een sms onvangen
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Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Oww in dat geval moeten we politici maar belasten met dit onderzoek...quote:Op dinsdag 2 september 2008 23:41 schreef johan555 het volgende:
een boef moet je met een boef pakken
FOK!'s rode weduwe.
De telefoonuitdraaien van ALE tonen mijns inziens duidelijk aan dat er wel gebeld is Johan, dus . .quote:Op woensdag 3 september 2008 11:21 schreef johan555 het volgende:
duikkie dit las ik :
Kalpoe also allegedly told John that about an hour after dropping the couple off he received a cell phone text message from Van Der Sloot, saying he would e-mail Kalpoe as soon as he got home. Kalpoe said Van Der Sloot never sent the promised message, John said.
Hij ontving een sms van joran en daar stond blijkbaar in dat joran hem zou emailen , zodra hij thuis zou zijn .
Hij heeft nooit de beloofde email onvangen zegt hij .
Waarom zou hij dat gezegd hebben als ze (volgens allerlei berichten) samen nog op msn gezeten
hadden ? OF ... hebben ze helemaal niet op msn gezeten ?
als dit klopt hebben ze s" nachts dus helemaal niet met elkaar gebeld maar heeft K alleen een sms onvangen
Waarom zegt Kalpoe dan begin juni in de gevangenis tegen John dat hij nooit de beloofde boodschap (een email) heeft ontvangen ?
Waarom zou die John daar over liegen dat K dat gezegd zou hebben ,volgens mij is die man eerlijk en had niks te verbergen .
Karin Janssen wilde geen commentaar op geven op die verklaring van John
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Waarom zou die John daar over liegen dat K dat gezegd zou hebben ,volgens mij is die man eerlijk en had niks te verbergen .
Karin Janssen wilde geen commentaar op geven op die verklaring van John
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Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
PETER R. DE VRIES IN RACE VOOR TELEVIZIER-RING. Stem nu!
Peter R. de Vries, misdaadverslaggever maakt kans op een Gouden Televizier-Ring, de prijs voor het beste televisieprogramma van het jaar. De stembussen zijn tot en met 26 september om 12.00 uur geopend.
stemmen kan op Gouden Televizier-Ring : http://www.televizier.nl/site/page/ring_verkiezing
Peter R. de Vries, misdaadverslaggever maakt kans op een Gouden Televizier-Ring, de prijs voor het beste televisieprogramma van het jaar. De stembussen zijn tot en met 26 september om 12.00 uur geopend.
stemmen kan op Gouden Televizier-Ring : http://www.televizier.nl/site/page/ring_verkiezing
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Ik denk dat Shango Tromp is. Mede door de manier van beeldspraak.
Een dwaalspoor dus dat we beter als niet bestaand kunnen beschouwen.
Een dwaalspoor dus dat we beter als niet bestaand kunnen beschouwen.
Ja dat zou best eens kunnen tromp is enorm Boos op alles wat met Aruba te maken heeftquote:Op vrijdag 5 september 2008 00:33 schreef bastibro het volgende:
Ik denk dat Shango Tromp is. Mede door de manier van beeldspraak.
Een dwaalspoor dus dat we beter als niet bestaand kunnen beschouwen.
en terecht misschien wel .
Ik heb nog niet kunnen lezen wat Hij allemaal heeft meegemaakt in de KIA(korrektie instituut Aruba ) Maar dat lijkt me een bizar gevangenisje .
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Zeker terecht.quote:Op vrijdag 5 september 2008 00:55 schreef johan555 het volgende:
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Ja dat zou best eens kunnen tromp is enorm Boos op alles wat met Aruba te maken heeft
en terecht misschien wel .
Ik heb nog niet kunnen lezen wat Hij allemaal heeft meegemaakt in de KIA(korrektie instituut Aruba ) Maar dat lijkt me een bizar gevangenisje .
Vast staat dat hij het slachtoffer is geweest van het zeer corrupte en doorweven van vriendjespolitiek `evil island` Aruba.
Hij was naar hun mening TE bijdehand en dat heeft hij geweten.
ben er nog hoor alleen druk met andere dingenquote:Op woensdag 3 september 2008 11:21 schreef johan555 het volgende:
duikkie dit las ik :
Kalpoe also allegedly told John that about an hour after dropping the couple off he received a cell phone text message from Van Der Sloot, saying he would e-mail Kalpoe as soon as he got home. Kalpoe said Van Der Sloot never sent the promised message, John said.
Hij ontving een sms van joran en daar stond blijkbaar in dat joran hem zou emailen , zodra hij thuis zou zijn .
Hij heeft nooit de beloofde email onvangen zegt hij .
Waarom zou hij dat gezegd hebben als ze (volgens allerlei berichten) samen nog op msn gezeten
hadden ? OF ... hebben ze helemaal niet op msn gezeten ?
als dit klopt hebben ze s" nachts dus helemaal niet met elkaar gebeld maar heeft K alleen een sms onvangen
, maar er is in juni zoveel gelogen en of niet gezegd dat je hier niet veel waarde aan moet hechten . duidelijkheid hier zou moeten komen van het onderzoek naar telefoon en sms verkeer van 31 mei tot 9 juni. het raport is bij politie bekend, zo ook of kalpoe liegt of gewoon niet wilde zeggen toen in de nor.kortom wij weten het niet aar de politie weet wel uit onderzoek of kalpoe hier zat te dwalen. het kan ook nog zo zijn dat het sms nooit is aangekomen, gebeurt wel eens dus wel verzonden toch niet ontvangen
Ma 8-8-2008
EquuSearch gaat nu er nieuwe tips en aanwijzingen zijn binnen gekomen , opnieuw zoeken op Aruba .Ze kunnen binnen 24 uur op Aruba zijn
EquuSearch said they've come back to cases five times or more.
EquuSearch gaat nu er nieuwe tips en aanwijzingen zijn binnen gekomen , opnieuw zoeken op Aruba .Ze kunnen binnen 24 uur op Aruba zijn
EquuSearch said they've come back to cases five times or more.
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
As Joran stated in his book: I must be a very very sick person when within 50 minutes I killed that girl, got dispose of her body, called deepak at 2.26am, sms'ed Flor at 3.11am and to Deepak sms text messages before watching pornmovies at the internet when I was back home.quote:Op woensdag 3 september 2008 11:21 schreef johan555 het volgende:
duikkie dit las ik :
Kalpoe also allegedly told John that about an hour after dropping the couple off he received a cell phone text message from Van Der Sloot, saying he would e-mail Kalpoe as soon as he got home. Kalpoe said Van Der Sloot never sent the promised message, John said.
Hij ontving een sms van joran en daar stond blijkbaar in dat joran hem zou emailen , zodra hij thuis zou zijn .
Hij heeft nooit de beloofde email onvangen zegt hij .
Waarom zou hij dat gezegd hebben als ze (volgens allerlei berichten) samen nog op msn gezeten
hadden ? OF ... hebben ze helemaal niet op msn gezeten ?
als dit klopt hebben ze s" nachts dus helemaal niet met elkaar gebeld maar heeft K alleen een sms onvangen
hier heeft Joran het over text berichten naar deepak
volgens mij hebben ze dus helemaal niet gebeld
en knap van die 3.11 am precies op de minuut weet ie het
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Das een fijne binnenkomer zeg. Dat is goed nieuws!quote:Op maandag 8 september 2008 08:51 schreef johan555 het volgende:
Ma 8-8-2008
EquuSearch gaat nu er nieuwe tips en aanwijzingen zijn binnen gekomen , opnieuw zoeken op Aruba .Ze kunnen binnen 24 uur op Aruba zijn
EquuSearch said they've come back to cases five times or more.
Betwijfel trouwens sterk of ze met open armen ontvangen zullen worden op dark island
http://www.wesh.com/news/17415099/detail.html
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hier kan je al zien dat Paul vd Sloot al liegt op z'n eigen website
Hij was nooit een rechter maar rechter in opleiding
hij werkte als Lands advocaat en zat niet In de regering
wie wil nou zo iemand als advocaat ? iemand die al liegt op z'n eigen website ?
Dus Joran heeft het niet van een Vreemde !
klik op de afbeelding om het te lezen
[ Bericht 5% gewijzigd door johan555 op 11-09-2008 01:16:18 ]
Hij was nooit een rechter maar rechter in opleiding
hij werkte als Lands advocaat en zat niet In de regering
wie wil nou zo iemand als advocaat ? iemand die al liegt op z'n eigen website ?
Dus Joran heeft het niet van een Vreemde !
klik op de afbeelding om het te lezen
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Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Nieuwe ontwikklingen in de Zaak
a new witness that has come forward that has placed Joran Van der Sloot in wet and muddy clothing out at 4:00am on 5/30/05. The 48 year old Aruban witness also places Paulus Van der Sloot at the scene picking up Joran in a red jeep.
JORAN SEEN FULL OF MUD WALKING NEAR THE DAM WITH ONLY ONE TENNIS SHOE ON HIS FEET
JORAN’S CLOTHES WERE FULL OF MUD WHEN HE WAS WALKING NEAR THE DAM AT MONSERAT
Joran is daar opgehaald midden in de nacht door Paul vd Sloot in de rode Suzuki Jeep
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a new witness that has come forward that has placed Joran Van der Sloot in wet and muddy clothing out at 4:00am on 5/30/05. The 48 year old Aruban witness also places Paulus Van der Sloot at the scene picking up Joran in a red jeep.
JORAN SEEN FULL OF MUD WALKING NEAR THE DAM WITH ONLY ONE TENNIS SHOE ON HIS FEET
JORAN’S CLOTHES WERE FULL OF MUD WHEN HE WAS WALKING NEAR THE DAM AT MONSERAT
Joran is daar opgehaald midden in de nacht door Paul vd Sloot in de rode Suzuki Jeep
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Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
De Getuige :
It was on the night of the 30th of May2005 that he was asleep in his room at his house, when he was awoken by the sound of numerous dogs barking out of control and in very menacing tones.
The witness opened his eyes, looked at the watch and saw that it was 4:05 in the morning.
Listening to the direction from which the sounds of the dogs were coming, he went to the living room of his house and observed what the dogs were barking at with such urgency.
Under a street lamp he saw a person walking in the direction of his house. He was coming from the sports field of Nacional, near the Dam of Monserat, going in the direction of the hotels. The person on foot passed under the following street lamp and the witness saw the person very well and clearly. He was a notably tall, thin, masculine, white skin, short dark hair, a relatively young man who looked like a Dutchman.
He also saw the form (profile) of his head and one side of his face.
The clothes he had on was a red tee shirt and long clear colored pants .
Remarcable was that this person was walking with a limp, and here is where the witness saw that he lacked one tennis shoe. He calculated that from the way he was walking, he was missing the tennis shoes of his right foot.
Another thing that he noticed was that the person was breathing heavily, as if he had been running for quite a while. His chest was heaving up and down rapidly.
CLOTHES WERE WET
The witness continued to declare (and proved with his test that he was telling the truth) that the man he saw had on wet clothes, and had a notable stripe of muddy waters that reached to his chest, about 5 centimeters more or less over his flannel.
The stripe on his flannel showed clearly that from the muddy waters going down his clothes were completely wet.
At first the witness thought that this person had beenin a fight and ran away so as not to receive any more blows. The side of his face that the witness noticed, however, did not show any signs of blood or blows. But, due to the fact that the person did not once look over his shoulder to check if anyone was following him, and continued to walk with his head down and, with accelerated velocity, the witness thought that he was involved in something else and not in a fight.
The person continued to walk in front of his house until he lost him from sight, and in no instance did the man look up or back, and continued to walk in the direction of the hotels.
All this happened in about 1 minute.
After he lost the person from sight, the witness sat in his living room for about 15 to 20 minutes before he went back to sleep.
DIARIO COMMENT: Here something else happened, that the witness did not reveal to the local authorities, but well to the American investigators. In our next publication DIARIO will reveal what else the witness saw that eventful morning. The Polygraph test he took proved that here too he was telling the truth!)
DIARIO
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It was on the night of the 30th of May2005 that he was asleep in his room at his house, when he was awoken by the sound of numerous dogs barking out of control and in very menacing tones.
The witness opened his eyes, looked at the watch and saw that it was 4:05 in the morning.
Listening to the direction from which the sounds of the dogs were coming, he went to the living room of his house and observed what the dogs were barking at with such urgency.
Under a street lamp he saw a person walking in the direction of his house. He was coming from the sports field of Nacional, near the Dam of Monserat, going in the direction of the hotels. The person on foot passed under the following street lamp and the witness saw the person very well and clearly. He was a notably tall, thin, masculine, white skin, short dark hair, a relatively young man who looked like a Dutchman.
He also saw the form (profile) of his head and one side of his face.
The clothes he had on was a red tee shirt and long clear colored pants .
Remarcable was that this person was walking with a limp, and here is where the witness saw that he lacked one tennis shoe. He calculated that from the way he was walking, he was missing the tennis shoes of his right foot.
Another thing that he noticed was that the person was breathing heavily, as if he had been running for quite a while. His chest was heaving up and down rapidly.
CLOTHES WERE WET
The witness continued to declare (and proved with his test that he was telling the truth) that the man he saw had on wet clothes, and had a notable stripe of muddy waters that reached to his chest, about 5 centimeters more or less over his flannel.
The stripe on his flannel showed clearly that from the muddy waters going down his clothes were completely wet.
At first the witness thought that this person had beenin a fight and ran away so as not to receive any more blows. The side of his face that the witness noticed, however, did not show any signs of blood or blows. But, due to the fact that the person did not once look over his shoulder to check if anyone was following him, and continued to walk with his head down and, with accelerated velocity, the witness thought that he was involved in something else and not in a fight.
The person continued to walk in front of his house until he lost him from sight, and in no instance did the man look up or back, and continued to walk in the direction of the hotels.
All this happened in about 1 minute.
After he lost the person from sight, the witness sat in his living room for about 15 to 20 minutes before he went back to sleep.
DIARIO COMMENT: Here something else happened, that the witness did not reveal to the local authorities, but well to the American investigators. In our next publication DIARIO will reveal what else the witness saw that eventful morning. The Polygraph test he took proved that here too he was telling the truth!)
DIARIO
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Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Texas Equu search Tim Miller terug op Aruba in zoektocht naar Natalee.
Nieuwe getiuge zegt eerder te zijn weggestuurd door Arubaanse Justitie.
Jammer dat die naam(nog) niet is vrijgegeven, anders konden we dat checke..
Kortom, nieuwe oplevingen in de zaak:
http://scaredmonkeys.com/(...)mos-polygraph-exams/
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Nieuwe getiuge zegt eerder te zijn weggestuurd door Arubaanse Justitie.
Jammer dat die naam(nog) niet is vrijgegeven, anders konden we dat checke..
Kortom, nieuwe oplevingen in de zaak:
http://scaredmonkeys.com/(...)mos-polygraph-exams/
[ Bericht 7% gewijzigd door bastibro op 12-09-2008 20:57:36 ]
zie post op pagina 3 hier bastibro
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Paul vd Sloot
Van der S. woont al zeventien jaar op het eiland en werd drie jaar geleden plaatsvervangend rechter in opleiding. De rechterlijke macht was echter niet tevreden over zijn functioneren en had intern al de beslissing genomen dat Van der S. zijn functie zou moeten neerleggen. Er werd een ander plekje binnen het justitieapparaat voor hem gezocht en Van der S. deed al geen rechtszaken meer.
De politie op Aruba begint zijn optreden steeds meer verdacht te vinden als uit het onderzoek blijkt dat Paul alle verdachten instructies geeft en ze probeert voor te houden wat ze wel en niet moeten verklaren. Dat leidt ertoe dat Van der S. een verbod krijgt zijn zoon nog langer te bezoeken in de cel, waarna de magistraat een kort geding aanspant om deze stap aan te vechten. Afgelopen donderdag besluit justitie Paul van der S. te arresteren op verdenking van betrokkenheid bij de moord op Natalee. Keihard bewijs ontbreekt vooralsnog, maar de ondoorzichtige houding van Van der S. roept te veel vragen op. Of de aanklacht van moord ook in een later stadium van kracht blijft, moet nog blijken. Justitie kan de verdenking ook hebben aangevoerd om Van der S. in verzekering te kunnen stellen. De tenlastelegging kan dan later alsnog worden aangepast in bijvoorbeeld het wegwerken van bewijsmateriaal.
john vd heuvel telegraaf juni 2005
Van der S. woont al zeventien jaar op het eiland en werd drie jaar geleden plaatsvervangend rechter in opleiding. De rechterlijke macht was echter niet tevreden over zijn functioneren en had intern al de beslissing genomen dat Van der S. zijn functie zou moeten neerleggen. Er werd een ander plekje binnen het justitieapparaat voor hem gezocht en Van der S. deed al geen rechtszaken meer.
De politie op Aruba begint zijn optreden steeds meer verdacht te vinden als uit het onderzoek blijkt dat Paul alle verdachten instructies geeft en ze probeert voor te houden wat ze wel en niet moeten verklaren. Dat leidt ertoe dat Van der S. een verbod krijgt zijn zoon nog langer te bezoeken in de cel, waarna de magistraat een kort geding aanspant om deze stap aan te vechten. Afgelopen donderdag besluit justitie Paul van der S. te arresteren op verdenking van betrokkenheid bij de moord op Natalee. Keihard bewijs ontbreekt vooralsnog, maar de ondoorzichtige houding van Van der S. roept te veel vragen op. Of de aanklacht van moord ook in een later stadium van kracht blijft, moet nog blijken. Justitie kan de verdenking ook hebben aangevoerd om Van der S. in verzekering te kunnen stellen. De tenlastelegging kan dan later alsnog worden aangepast in bijvoorbeeld het wegwerken van bewijsmateriaal.
john vd heuvel telegraaf juni 2005
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
allemaal leuk en aardig , maar wel allemaal heel toevallig. neemt niet weg dat het natuurlijk onderzocht moet worden, maar heb zo mijn twijfels hoor, toevallig gezien net bij verlichte straatverlichtingquote:Op donderdag 11 september 2008 09:34 schreef johan555 het volgende:
De Getuige :
It was on the night of the 30th of May2005 that he was asleep in his room at his house, when he was awoken by the sound of numerous dogs barking out of control and in very menacing tones.
The witness opened his eyes, looked at the watch and saw that it was 4:05 in the morning.
Listening to the direction from which the sounds of the dogs were coming, he went to the living room of his house and observed what the dogs were barking at with such urgency.
Under a street lamp he saw a person walking in the direction of his house. He was coming from the sports field of Nacional, near the Dam of Monserat, going in the direction of the hotels. The person on foot passed under the following street lamp and the witness saw the person very well and clearly. He was a notably tall, thin, masculine, white skin, short dark hair, a relatively young man who looked like a Dutchman.
He also saw the form (profile) of his head and one side of his face.
The clothes he had on was a red tee shirt and long clear colored pants .
Remarcable was that this person was walking with a limp, and here is where the witness saw that he lacked one tennis shoe. He calculated that from the way he was walking, he was missing the tennis shoes of his right foot.
Another thing that he noticed was that the person was breathing heavily, as if he had been running for quite a while. His chest was heaving up and down rapidly.
CLOTHES WERE WET
The witness continued to declare (and proved with his test that he was telling the truth) that the man he saw had on wet clothes, and had a notable stripe of muddy waters that reached to his chest, about 5 centimeters more or less over his flannel.
The stripe on his flannel showed clearly that from the muddy waters going down his clothes were completely wet.
At first the witness thought that this person had beenin a fight and ran away so as not to receive any more blows. The side of his face that the witness noticed, however, did not show any signs of blood or blows. But, due to the fact that the person did not once look over his shoulder to check if anyone was following him, and continued to walk with his head down and, with accelerated velocity, the witness thought that he was involved in something else and not in a fight.
The person continued to walk in front of his house until he lost him from sight, and in no instance did the man look up or back, and continued to walk in the direction of the hotels.
All this happened in about 1 minute.
After he lost the person from sight, the witness sat in his living room for about 15 to 20 minutes before he went back to sleep.
DIARIO COMMENT: Here something else happened, that the witness did not reveal to the local authorities, but well to the American investigators. In our next publication DIARIO will reveal what else the witness saw that eventful morning. The Polygraph test he took proved that here too he was telling the truth!)
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, en wanneer heeft deze persoon dat gemeld bij de politie ? en waarom een leugen test doen ? klinkt allemaal erg americaans en gezocht hoor. maar goed nieuwe ??? aanwijzing dat joran dus nadat hij thuis kwam om 3:15 even alibi maakte en vervolgens met papa op pad is gegaan, wat ik al meer schreef hier om 3:15 was er grootte paniek in huize van der sloot . als dit verhaal de waarheid zou wezen is paul van de sloot hoofdverdachte 
, zoon lief kwam met een probleem naar vaders en vaders heeft wel een oplossing. bang voor zijn status als rechter in opleiding heeft hij na een klein onderzoekje van natalee gemeend dat ze dood was en gedacht weg ermee in ondiepe zee ik stel voor paul van der sloot maar eens op te pakken en hem te verhoren op deze zaak als verdachte van het doen verdwijnen van een lijk of tenminste medeplichtig te stellen. gelukkig kan paul van der sloot hier twee jaar zonder echt bewijs voor worden lastig gevallen
De Rode Suzuki jeep van Paul maakte overuren die nacht
Nu moet Paul maar eens gaan vertellen wat hij allemaal aan het doen was die nacht
Red jeep observed by witness at approximately 4am.
Red jeep observed at McDonalds with Joran (and Natalee) at approximately 4am.
Sounds like the red jeep was busy that night.
Nu moet Paul maar eens gaan vertellen wat hij allemaal aan het doen was die nacht
Red jeep observed by witness at approximately 4am.
Red jeep observed at McDonalds with Joran (and Natalee) at approximately 4am.
Sounds like the red jeep was busy that night.
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
lachen wel op dat nwo blogje
t zegt op 25 juni
Renee Gielen heeft aan bewijs grenzende informatie dat Joran niet het laatst met het zwaar gedrogeerde meisje gezien is.
waar blijft dat bewijs ? of krijgen we weer zo'n half onscherp fototje te zien
en dan
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T Says:
juni 25th, 2008 at 13:24
De tekst op Renee Gielen’s dvd “The unrevealed time lines” die binnenkort op de Nederlandse en Amerikaanse markt komt:
het wordt dus een dvd je ? waar is ie te koop ?
op Julia's kantoortje ?
[ Bericht 20% gewijzigd door johan555 op 13-09-2008 18:56:39 ]
t zegt op 25 juni
Renee Gielen heeft aan bewijs grenzende informatie dat Joran niet het laatst met het zwaar gedrogeerde meisje gezien is.
waar blijft dat bewijs ? of krijgen we weer zo'n half onscherp fototje te zien
en dan
3
T Says:
juni 25th, 2008 at 13:24
De tekst op Renee Gielen’s dvd “The unrevealed time lines” die binnenkort op de Nederlandse en Amerikaanse markt komt:
het wordt dus een dvd je ? waar is ie te koop ?
op Julia's kantoortje ? [ Bericht 20% gewijzigd door johan555 op 13-09-2008 18:56:39 ]
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Julia`s kantoortje is momenteel even bezet door iemand anders vrees ik omdat Julia in een rehab verblijft ivm alcohol problemen.quote:Op zaterdag 13 september 2008 18:33 schreef johan555 het volgende:
lachen wel op dat nwo blogje
t zegt op 25 juni
Renee Gielen heeft aan bewijs grenzende informatie dat Joran niet het laatst met het zwaar gedrogeerde meisje gezien is.
waar blijft dat bewijs ? of krijgen we weer zo'n half onscherp fototje te zien
en dan
3
T Says:
juni 25th, 2008 at 13:24
De tekst op Renee Gielen’s dvd “The unrevealed time lines” die binnenkort op de Nederlandse en Amerikaanse markt komt:
het wordt dus een dvd je ? waar is ie te koop ?
Misschien dat ze het kunnen publiceren op de site van hun held Steve B., beter bekend als een AAC(Afgekeurd Amsterdams Crimineel), die zich nogal schijnt in te spannen om Peter R de Vries zwart te maken omdat die m ooit behoorlijk `te kakken` heeft gezet.
vandaar dat die club zo hecht isquote:Op zondag 14 september 2008 01:23 schreef bastibro het volgende:
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Julia`s kantoortje is momenteel even bezet door iemand anders vrees ik omdat Julia in een rehab verblijft ivm alcohol problemen.
Misschien dat ze het kunnen publiceren op de site van hun held Steve B., beter bekend als een AAC(Afgekeurd Amsterdams Crimineel), die zich nogal schijnt in te spannen om Peter R de Vries zwart te maken omdat die m ooit behoorlijk `te kakken` heeft gezet.
, van der slootjes vertoeven daar toch ook regelmatig ???
Ja ach dat doet ie al jaren ,hij heeft heel wat mensen de goot ingeholpen met z'n dugshandel verleden .quote:Op zondag 14 september 2008 01:23 schreef bastibro het volgende:
[..]
Julia`s kantoortje is momenteel even bezet door iemand anders vrees ik omdat Julia in een rehab verblijft ivm alcohol problemen.
Misschien dat ze het kunnen publiceren op de site van hun held Steve B., beter bekend als een AAC(Afgekeurd Amsterdams Crimineel), die zich nogal schijnt in te spannen om Peter R de Vries zwart te maken omdat die m ooit behoorlijk `te kakken` heeft gezet.
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
wat ik er een beetje uit kan opmaken is :quote:
deze getuigen is dus al eerder verhoort door de arubaanse politie maar werd niet gelooft ??? dat verklaard ook gelijk waarom de americanen een leugentest hebben afgenomen
. nou weet ik dat mensen denken dat je zo'n test niet naar je hand kan zetten, maar helaas kan het wel maar ben benieuwd hoe dit verder onwikkeld, geloof nooit dat ze op aruba weer een vijver leeg gaan pompen.
een schone taak voor mensen die in dit verhaal geloven, geld inzamelen en onderzoeken, misschien eerst maar een rubberbootje met sonar
hier zegt Paul :
Paul van der Sloot: "Ik ben dat blijven geloven, totdat hij de verklaring wijzigde."
Maar Joran vertelde toch meestal exact was zijn vader hem opgedragen had ?
Waarom ging Joran "ineens" iets anders verklaren ?
Voor het eerst praten de ouders van Joran van der Sloot met de pers. Hun zoon wordt verdacht van moord op 18-jarige Amerikaanse Natalee Holloway op Aruba.
Ze zijn huiverig. Begrijpelijk, gezien de aandacht voor de familie van de Amerikaanse media. In hun ogen is Joran, die al drie weken achter de tralies zit, al veroordeeld. Vorige week arresteerde de politie ook vader Paul van der Sloot, rechter-in-opleiding. Ook hij zou betrokken zijn bij de verdwijning van Natalee. "Dit is een absurde situatie", zeggen de ouders.
Anita van der Sloot (48) zit met roodomrande ogen aan de houten eettafel in hun huis. Ze heeft haar zoon pas twee keer mogen bezoeken sinds hij in de gevangenis zit. Tijdens het gesprek maakt ze aantekeningen in haar dagboek. "Ik hou alles bij. Voor de bestseller die ik ga schrijven als dit achter de rug is", grapt ze. "Soms ben ik cynisch om me staande te houden in deze gekte."
Paul (53) zit naast zijn vrouw. Hij beantwoordt de vragen bedachtzaam. Een week geleden kwam de politie - vergezeld van een aantal cameraploegen - hem arresteren. Drie dagen zat hij in een politiecel - 'een intense en ingrijpende ervaring' - totdat de rechter-commissaris besloot dat er geen reden was hem vast te houden. Volgens justitie had hij als getuige verklaringen afgelegd die niet strookten met feitenonderzoek. "Maar ze hebben me na mijn arrestatie maar één keer verhoord", vertelt Van der Sloot. "Toen heb ik hetzelfde gezegd als eerder op het politiebureau."
De media namen aan dat Van der Sloot was aangehouden omdat hij zijn zoon zou hebben aangespoord vooral niet de waarheid te vertellen over de nacht dat Natalee Holloway verdween. "Ik heb hem juist gezegd om alles te vertellen", zegt Van der Sloot.
Jorans vader wist in eerste instantie niet eens dat zijn zoon uit was geweest in de nacht van 29 op 30 mei, toen Natalee verdween. "Ik had hem om elf uur opgehaald bij Mc Donald's en wist niet beter dan dat hij was gaan slapen." Pas toen Beth Holloway met enkele politieagenten bij de poort van zijn huis stond, hoorde hij dat zijn zoon nog in Carlos 'n Charlies was geweest met Natalee, zegt hij.
Tegen de politie vertelde Joran aanvankelijk dat hij samen met zijn vrienden Satisch en Deepak K., die ook in de gevangenis zitten, het meisje bij haar hotel had afgezet. Paul van der Sloot: "Ik ben dat blijven geloven, totdat hij de verklaring wijzigde." Opeens verklaarde Joran dat hij het meisje - op haar verzoek - alleen had achtergelaten op het strand naast het Marriott Hotel.
Hij zou daarna naar zijn huis zijn gelopen, kilometers verderop. Anita: "Ik was heel boos toen ik dat hoorde. Maar ik denk dat het een paniekreactie was. Misschien dat hij er een draai aan heeft gegeven - ik wil het geen leugen noemen - zodat hij van het gedoe af zou zijn. Hij heeft vanaf het begin gezegd dat hij een meisje nooit iets zou aandoen. Hij heeft respect voor meisjes."
Waarom hij dan een meisje alleen op het strand heeft achtergelaten, weten de ouders niet. "Ik zou heel graag met hem over de zaak willen praten, maar dat mogen wij niet", zegt Anita. "Maar een ding weet ik wel zeker: dat daar volwassenen bij zijn geweest."
Het ziet er niet naar uit dat Joran binnenkort vrijkomt. De politie heeft zo weinig bewijsmateriaal, dat de enige hoop een bekentenis is. Dagelijks wordt Joran urenlang verhoord. Anita: "Soms zit hij uren in een donkere, ijskoude ruimte, waar hij alleen maar geluiden kan horen. Een andere keer is hij omringd door foto's van Natalee. Je vader is ook een misdadiger, zeggen ze tegen hem. 'Mama, ze schelden me uit voor moordenaar, voor psychopaat, voor verkrachter', vertelde hij me."
Maar volgens Anita en Paul van der Sloot is hun zoon onschuldig. Paul hoopt zijn zoon een dezer dagen te kunnen bezoeken. "Dan zal ik tegen hem zeggen dat ik van hem hou. Dat zal ik tegen hem zeggen.
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Paul van der Sloot: "Ik ben dat blijven geloven, totdat hij de verklaring wijzigde."
Maar Joran vertelde toch meestal exact was zijn vader hem opgedragen had ?
Waarom ging Joran "ineens" iets anders verklaren ?
Voor het eerst praten de ouders van Joran van der Sloot met de pers. Hun zoon wordt verdacht van moord op 18-jarige Amerikaanse Natalee Holloway op Aruba.
Ze zijn huiverig. Begrijpelijk, gezien de aandacht voor de familie van de Amerikaanse media. In hun ogen is Joran, die al drie weken achter de tralies zit, al veroordeeld. Vorige week arresteerde de politie ook vader Paul van der Sloot, rechter-in-opleiding. Ook hij zou betrokken zijn bij de verdwijning van Natalee. "Dit is een absurde situatie", zeggen de ouders.
Anita van der Sloot (48) zit met roodomrande ogen aan de houten eettafel in hun huis. Ze heeft haar zoon pas twee keer mogen bezoeken sinds hij in de gevangenis zit. Tijdens het gesprek maakt ze aantekeningen in haar dagboek. "Ik hou alles bij. Voor de bestseller die ik ga schrijven als dit achter de rug is", grapt ze. "Soms ben ik cynisch om me staande te houden in deze gekte."
Paul (53) zit naast zijn vrouw. Hij beantwoordt de vragen bedachtzaam. Een week geleden kwam de politie - vergezeld van een aantal cameraploegen - hem arresteren. Drie dagen zat hij in een politiecel - 'een intense en ingrijpende ervaring' - totdat de rechter-commissaris besloot dat er geen reden was hem vast te houden. Volgens justitie had hij als getuige verklaringen afgelegd die niet strookten met feitenonderzoek. "Maar ze hebben me na mijn arrestatie maar één keer verhoord", vertelt Van der Sloot. "Toen heb ik hetzelfde gezegd als eerder op het politiebureau."
De media namen aan dat Van der Sloot was aangehouden omdat hij zijn zoon zou hebben aangespoord vooral niet de waarheid te vertellen over de nacht dat Natalee Holloway verdween. "Ik heb hem juist gezegd om alles te vertellen", zegt Van der Sloot.
Jorans vader wist in eerste instantie niet eens dat zijn zoon uit was geweest in de nacht van 29 op 30 mei, toen Natalee verdween. "Ik had hem om elf uur opgehaald bij Mc Donald's en wist niet beter dan dat hij was gaan slapen." Pas toen Beth Holloway met enkele politieagenten bij de poort van zijn huis stond, hoorde hij dat zijn zoon nog in Carlos 'n Charlies was geweest met Natalee, zegt hij.
Tegen de politie vertelde Joran aanvankelijk dat hij samen met zijn vrienden Satisch en Deepak K., die ook in de gevangenis zitten, het meisje bij haar hotel had afgezet. Paul van der Sloot: "Ik ben dat blijven geloven, totdat hij de verklaring wijzigde." Opeens verklaarde Joran dat hij het meisje - op haar verzoek - alleen had achtergelaten op het strand naast het Marriott Hotel.
Hij zou daarna naar zijn huis zijn gelopen, kilometers verderop. Anita: "Ik was heel boos toen ik dat hoorde. Maar ik denk dat het een paniekreactie was. Misschien dat hij er een draai aan heeft gegeven - ik wil het geen leugen noemen - zodat hij van het gedoe af zou zijn. Hij heeft vanaf het begin gezegd dat hij een meisje nooit iets zou aandoen. Hij heeft respect voor meisjes."
Waarom hij dan een meisje alleen op het strand heeft achtergelaten, weten de ouders niet. "Ik zou heel graag met hem over de zaak willen praten, maar dat mogen wij niet", zegt Anita. "Maar een ding weet ik wel zeker: dat daar volwassenen bij zijn geweest."
Het ziet er niet naar uit dat Joran binnenkort vrijkomt. De politie heeft zo weinig bewijsmateriaal, dat de enige hoop een bekentenis is. Dagelijks wordt Joran urenlang verhoord. Anita: "Soms zit hij uren in een donkere, ijskoude ruimte, waar hij alleen maar geluiden kan horen. Een andere keer is hij omringd door foto's van Natalee. Je vader is ook een misdadiger, zeggen ze tegen hem. 'Mama, ze schelden me uit voor moordenaar, voor psychopaat, voor verkrachter', vertelde hij me."
Maar volgens Anita en Paul van der Sloot is hun zoon onschuldig. Paul hoopt zijn zoon een dezer dagen te kunnen bezoeken. "Dan zal ik tegen hem zeggen dat ik van hem hou. Dat zal ik tegen hem zeggen.
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Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Two Contacts with Natalee Holloway One at the Casino after 8 PM and the other around 4AM..Why would Paul Van Der Sloot lie about that and change his story? How many people saw him in that Red Jeep that morning when he said he was sleeping?
Superior Court - Diario - 02-14-2007
The whole case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway gets a different twist now that the information has come out from no less than the Superior Court, and in which mention is made of the declarations of witnesses and a phone tap that show or give an indication that Paul van der Sloot had on two occasions personal contact with Natalee during the night that she disappeared. Mention is made that, according to one or more official reports of the phone tap and also the declaration of Paul van der Sloot himself, that Paul fetched Joran and Natalee at McDonald and took them to the Holiday Inn. Based on this information, the judicial authorities and the police had at that time a justified basis to arrest Paul van der Sloot based on different suspicions. (Translation Credit: Diario)
http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/2/14/
http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/
Superior Court
January, 2007
The possible involvement of Paulus with that could then be deducted from the file with the official reports of witnesses, amongst which two people suggested a contact existed between Paulus and Natalee Holloway the night of her disappearance, and a taped report (that was given by the Prosecutor in her final note 1 to the Court). The taped information and his declaration that he picked up Joran and Natalee by the McDonalds Palm Beach and brought them to the Holiday Inn, are clearly understood by the Dept. of Justice, and could in the judgement of this Superior Court, be considered as an indication of the involvement of Paulus in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.”
Beth Twitty
NANCY GRACE
August 12, 2005
BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Oh -- oh, it`s a very critical detail. And the night that we arrived on the island -- you know, Jug does not misinterpret a 4:00 AM time pickup to 11:00 PM. I mean, Paulus Van Der Sloot stated that he picked them up up at 4:00 AM on May the 30th. Then -- we don`t know who they were, but then even as far as June 16 and June 17, Mr. Van Der Sloot was still stating this 4:00 AM pickup. Only until around -- maybe it was when he was picked up or arrested did he change it to 11:00 PM that I had knowledge of.
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RWV ARCHIVE
I'm in Mountain Brook and from the people who have recently returned from Aruba is that Van der Sloot's dad was seen at a McDonald's at 3 a.m. the night Natalee disappeared.
I don't think this has been reported in the mainstream media so hopefully this will help those of of you who are following this closely. This is my first post here and I'm posting something I think all of you might find significant.
Natalee goes missing at about 1 to 1:30 a.m. and the Van der Sloot's dad is seen at a McDonalds at 3a.m. I assume the dad has a job and would have to be at work the next day. There to me it is very suspicious.......
Posted by: samthebam | Sunday, June 19, 2005 at 03:35 PM
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Roy Tromp - lead Investigator
Paulus van der Sloot's Interrogator
CBS NEWS
August 5, 2005
Tromp said investigators believe van der Sloot, who turns 18 on Saturday, is the prime suspect and that he had some assistance from his father, Paul, an apprentice judge on the island. "We believe something went wrong with the girl, and the first person you are going to call is your daddy," said Tromp. "In this case, daddy would know exactly what to do." Tromp, who declined to provide details about exactly what investigators believe happened to Holloway, said that Paul van der Sloot has also changed his account the night Holloway vanished. "Why should you do that if you are telling the truth?" he said.
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Jossy Mansur
NANCY GRACE
October 4, 2005
GRACE: … Jossy, regarding the connection, what I perceived to be a close connection between the judge, Paulus Van Der Sloot and the retired chief of police who initially handled Natalee`s case, Van Der Stratten, were they friends?
MANSUR: Of course, they were friends. It stands to reason they were friends because Paul Van Der Sloot had many friends within the police department; he had many friends within the Department of Justice. And he had many friends with -- and he was friendly with all the judges in Aruba. He worked out of the same office as they did and did the same work.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/04/ng.01.html
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Joran van der Sloot: One day, I will explain exactly what happened, but, right now, I don’t feel ready to do that.
Paul Van Der Sloot: said in a phone conversation with Peter de Vries that they had a lot to tell but they will not do that just now because of people involved who could be hurt by this information
Antonio Carlo:Told Karen Janssen that Joran Van der Sloot played a major part in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway
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Superior Court - Diario - 02-14-2007
The whole case of the disappearance of Natalee Holloway gets a different twist now that the information has come out from no less than the Superior Court, and in which mention is made of the declarations of witnesses and a phone tap that show or give an indication that Paul van der Sloot had on two occasions personal contact with Natalee during the night that she disappeared. Mention is made that, according to one or more official reports of the phone tap and also the declaration of Paul van der Sloot himself, that Paul fetched Joran and Natalee at McDonald and took them to the Holiday Inn. Based on this information, the judicial authorities and the police had at that time a justified basis to arrest Paul van der Sloot based on different suspicions. (Translation Credit: Diario)
http://www.diario-aruba.com/2007/2/14/
http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/
Superior Court
January, 2007
The possible involvement of Paulus with that could then be deducted from the file with the official reports of witnesses, amongst which two people suggested a contact existed between Paulus and Natalee Holloway the night of her disappearance, and a taped report (that was given by the Prosecutor in her final note 1 to the Court). The taped information and his declaration that he picked up Joran and Natalee by the McDonalds Palm Beach and brought them to the Holiday Inn, are clearly understood by the Dept. of Justice, and could in the judgement of this Superior Court, be considered as an indication of the involvement of Paulus in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.”
Beth Twitty
NANCY GRACE
August 12, 2005
BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY: Oh -- oh, it`s a very critical detail. And the night that we arrived on the island -- you know, Jug does not misinterpret a 4:00 AM time pickup to 11:00 PM. I mean, Paulus Van Der Sloot stated that he picked them up up at 4:00 AM on May the 30th. Then -- we don`t know who they were, but then even as far as June 16 and June 17, Mr. Van Der Sloot was still stating this 4:00 AM pickup. Only until around -- maybe it was when he was picked up or arrested did he change it to 11:00 PM that I had knowledge of.
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RWV ARCHIVE
I'm in Mountain Brook and from the people who have recently returned from Aruba is that Van der Sloot's dad was seen at a McDonald's at 3 a.m. the night Natalee disappeared.
I don't think this has been reported in the mainstream media so hopefully this will help those of of you who are following this closely. This is my first post here and I'm posting something I think all of you might find significant.
Natalee goes missing at about 1 to 1:30 a.m. and the Van der Sloot's dad is seen at a McDonalds at 3a.m. I assume the dad has a job and would have to be at work the next day. There to me it is very suspicious.......
Posted by: samthebam | Sunday, June 19, 2005 at 03:35 PM
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Roy Tromp - lead Investigator
Paulus van der Sloot's Interrogator
CBS NEWS
August 5, 2005
Tromp said investigators believe van der Sloot, who turns 18 on Saturday, is the prime suspect and that he had some assistance from his father, Paul, an apprentice judge on the island. "We believe something went wrong with the girl, and the first person you are going to call is your daddy," said Tromp. "In this case, daddy would know exactly what to do." Tromp, who declined to provide details about exactly what investigators believe happened to Holloway, said that Paul van der Sloot has also changed his account the night Holloway vanished. "Why should you do that if you are telling the truth?" he said.
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Jossy Mansur
NANCY GRACE
October 4, 2005
GRACE: … Jossy, regarding the connection, what I perceived to be a close connection between the judge, Paulus Van Der Sloot and the retired chief of police who initially handled Natalee`s case, Van Der Stratten, were they friends?
MANSUR: Of course, they were friends. It stands to reason they were friends because Paul Van Der Sloot had many friends within the police department; he had many friends within the Department of Justice. And he had many friends with -- and he was friendly with all the judges in Aruba. He worked out of the same office as they did and did the same work.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0510/04/ng.01.html
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Joran van der Sloot: One day, I will explain exactly what happened, but, right now, I don’t feel ready to do that.
Paul Van Der Sloot: said in a phone conversation with Peter de Vries that they had a lot to tell but they will not do that just now because of people involved who could be hurt by this information
Antonio Carlo:Told Karen Janssen that Joran Van der Sloot played a major part in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway
[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door observer777 op 16-09-2008 23:49:57 ]
"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
White Pickup Truck and the Marriott Is this where they took Natalee after something Bad happened? After Montserat?
In early June 2005 there was a witness who came forward and said he helped bury Natalee with two others using a tarp,white Pu and buried her in a shallow grave with two others. One of the helpers worked at the Marriott. This witness was then locked up in a Mental Hospital in Aruba. The Archives still should be at RWV as well as a tourist who witnessed this from her/his window.
BFN Chat
Art Wood says he talked twice to a witness named Fransisco who in early June said he helped bury Natalee with two others. He talked to his friends and they said he was not crazy.
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WITNESS CLAIMS HE HELPED BURY NATALEE HOLLOWAY ON THE MORNING SHE WENT MISSING.
WITNESS CLAIMS VEHICLES USED WERE SIMILAR TO VEHICLES IDENTIFIED BY THE LANDFILL WITNESS.
WITNESS IS IN A PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL.
http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=08117149-1e27-4191-8c4c-4fe37b86cba8
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Jossy Mansur
NANCY GRACE
July 29, 2005
GRACE: OK. Jossy, is there any way to tie in a white pick-up to this scenario?
MANSUR: Yes, ma`am, because there`s another witness that, before that, told someone that works at the hotels that he saw a white pick-up over there by the Holiday Inn, in which three persons were also in, all of them male, carrying what looked like the body of a girl, putting it in the back of the white pick-up and driving away with it.
GRACE: OK. So you`ve got a white pick-up at the Holiday Inn, where Natalee was staying. You`ve got a white pick-up at the landfill. Both eyewitnesses state that there were three individuals, I`m assuming male. But can they give an identification of Joran Van Der Sloot or the Kalpoe brothers?
MANSUR: None of them have given that kind of a description. They haven`t identified the three males. But it`s very important to note that the witness on the beach by the Holiday Inn has absolutely no knowledge of the witness over there to the east side of the island by the landfill or dump. They don't know each other, but still they give the same description of the same white pick-up.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/29/ng.01.html
The witness by the landfill tells us that he was sitting in his car and he saw a white pick-up truck drive in, their were 3 occupants and 2 of them got out. Picked up a trash can plastic bag, the black ones, the big ones and they carried it over to where this whole bunch of other bags and rubble was. Now when they were doing that, he says that some blond hair fell out of the bag because the bag was not properly sealed and that he could see parts of human body and then he saw them dig a little among the rubble that was there already and then place this bag there then covered with some other near by lying bags and then put a small pool, plastic pool that babies swim in or bathe in on top of it and then put some more stuff and then walked away. He also told us that there was another car outside of the cyclone fence, looking on. The man in that car stepped out, he stood by the fence and looked at the whole proceeding's. We do believe him because from the beginning he has been reliable with his story and it does fit the description we got from another witness between the Holiday Inn and the Marriott Hotel.
The letter that we received is from the wife of the person with whom this guy was on the beach with between the Holiday Inn and Marriott wrote us because she was getting a annoyed that no one was paying attention to the declaration that this man gave to her husband at the hotel.
I will read it for you... The day after Natalee was missing a person called Barbeshe (Bar-Be-she) told a story that the night before he saw 3 people in front of the Holiday Inn with a girl's body. That they tried to take a towel from one the "walks fence's" (really hard to understand him here - sounds like he says "water sports dance or fence") to wrap the body and they could not get it down. Then one of them went to the garbage cans at the Holiday Inn and pulled the bags out and wrapped the body, then put her in the white pick-up and left. They went out and turned left towards the lighthouse and turned off on a dirt road and dug a hole and put her in it and threw out the shovel. He also said he told the police and they sent him on a 4 wheeler to try and find, locate the spot and he had been threatened by these people. This person has been seen on the beach everyday has no longer been seen after this and was known to be there daily.
http://www.riehlworldview(...)ive/2005/08/fyi.html
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Susan Candiotti - Cnn Correspondent
NANCY GRACE
July 29, 2005
CANDIOTTI: Well, according to sources familiar with the investigation, at least one witness has come forward who claims to have seen more than one person dumping what the witness says could have been a body. The body was, I am told, covered in some fashion, and that this happened at a public landfill not long before closing time. Now, when this happened, sources close to the investigation would not tell me exactly when this happened. But again, it was close to closing time. And this is a landfill where the public can go and dispose of waste. Now, this same witness claims to have told police that he saw a vehicle and was able to provide a tag number to police. I am told that this is a registered car in Aruba, but I can`t tell you more than that.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/29/ng.01.html
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Roy Tromp
CNN NEWS
July 30, 2005
In addition to the pond, Trump said authorities are searching a landfill for the third time since a witness came forward shortly after Holloway disappeared. Trump said that authorities did not want to leave any stone unturned.
The witness claimed he saw more than one person dump into the landfill something he believes could have been a covered body, CNN has learned from sources briefed on the investigation. The witness also gave police a license tag number that reportedly belonged to a white pickup truck.
Police tell CNN that a tag check found that the vehicle was not at the landfill at or around the time the witness claimed.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/30/aruba.missing/index.html
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Listen to the end of this clip (Dave talking about the Landfill witness)
http://tinyurl.com/2bnqyq
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The following post was made by Red (not our RED) in the Prophecies forum:
A local young person was the one who tipped regarding the body in the landfill. This person saw that on 2 days after Natalee was reported missing he saw some guys take out a large garbage with a stiff body.
As they took the body out, the wind blew the bag open and in it he
saw that a body was laying stiff on a blue beach bed and the legs were crossed on to the other and he saw long blond hair.
This car was a light coloured truck, he took the number plate and reported this to the authorities. They found out that this car belonged to a POLICE auth. He was driving around with a towel with the blood on it,
but they never cared for his story!!.
He said that yesterday US media went to his house, but he refused to give any reports. He said tomorrow he will give an interv. with Canal 90
local radio, afterwards to US media..
will keep U posted.
red.
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Tim Miller
Associated Press
July 30, 2005
The witness claimed he saw the men dumping the body on the afternoon of June 1, said Tim Miller, director of Texas EquuSearch, which is coordinating the landfill search.
The FBI and Aruban police have questioned the witness, an Aruban man who claimed to be dropping off trash at the time, Miller said.
"He said he saw a face, blond hair and a woman's chest, and that the body was dumped and covered," Miller said. "His story has been consistent."
The witness could not identify the men but said they were driving a light colored jeep, Miller said. The witness told his brother what he saw soon afterward, and the brother told police, he said.
http://www.cbsnews.com/st(...)?source=search_story
Edwin Comenencia - Police Spokesman
NBC NEWS
July 31, 2005
Police spokesman Edwin Comenencia said police searched the landfill after receiving the tip in days following Holloway?s disappearance, but found nothing. He said the witness recently approached Holloway?s family, who asked for another search.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8745217/
Gerold Dompig
48 Hours Mystery
March 25, 2006
The Aruban authorities new theory is that someone, someone possibly very close to the young suspects, took the time to carefully hide the body, not once but maybe twice, literally re-burying her.
http://www.cbsnews.com/st(...)n1430644_page4.shtml
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THE LANDFILL WITNESS
Junior - The Landfill Witness
On the Record w/ Greta
August 4, 2005
GRETA VAN VAN SUSTEREN: What did you see?
JUNIOR: There were three who came before in a pickup truck. Then one was already there on the field. Then this other man and a woman along with two gentlemen in the back came. Yes, there was a woman--a woman who was brunette. There were two men in the back on the Jeep; also, there was a yellow car there.
VAN SUSTEREN: What time of day?
JUNIOR: This happened, well, at the time I saw them bury her it turns out that was the body of Natalee, the girl. At that time I thought it was just a tree--a coconut tree. That is what I thought. She was wrapped in plastic--covered in plastic--but there was a breeze and the bag sort of fell half way off and I saw half the body naked. It was a black plastic bag, and the woman was wearing no clothes. She had no clothes on. She was naked, just half her body I saw. I was by myself at that time at the place where we dump the garbage. How far? I was approximately seventy-five to eighty meters away. This was afternoon--4:30, 5:30--between 4:30 and 5:30. I, I felt there was something wrong, but more people kept coming from nearby. There was another car with a woman. The yellow car had a woman there, too, so, I thought there was nothing? Total, there were three cars; the pickup with the small trailer in the back, then there was a Jeep, and a yellow station wagon.
VAN SUSTEREN: When did he first call anybody about it?
JUNIOR: I called the Police, ?that was? that happened on Monday or Sunday because at that time the picture of the guys they were looking for had not been published in the paper yet. That is right. And then I recognized them immediately when I saw the picture. I felt--one day later I called the Police. I was saying, you know, you just want to call, and call, and call, and call--day and night--I kept calling but I kept getting a tape.
VAN SUSTEREN: What is his level of certainty?
JUNIOR: Am I certain? Yes, I am really sure. That is why I think, today, ?I?m sure, I?m sure. I have no doubt in my mind.? Yes. Also the father, I believe, yes, yes. Also him. I was even more sure it was this girl because now there were two cars. The Police have two cars--the red Jeep, which? I saw that. I saw that because the red Jeep was fine, but that came later, that was the next day. I was near the place where she was buried--may she rest in peace. I was there, maybe, nine days later.
VAN SUSTEREN: If there were three, does the father make four, or, is the father one of the three?
JUNIOR: The father came in the Jeep. He got out of the car. He was standing there and he was pointing and asking things. I was working, you know, but he was far and he was talking. I was just working and looking. He kept asking if everything was okay. Yes, they asked him. I thought that they were asking him, that is what I thought they were doing, asking him, ?Where? Where??
VAN SUSTEREN: Have the Police interviewed him [JUNIOR; my insertion] yet?
JUNIOR: The Police they have come to me and I pointed them to the place and they went for my message but never got it. They did not come back. This was in my mind and kept bothering me. I said this all to a friend of mine who lives nearby. I told her what happened and I said, "No one believes me."
VAN SUSTEREN: What, exactly, did he see of the body?
JUNIOR: Half body. I saw half the body and the hair flying in the wind--blowing in the wind. Then I was for sure because had it have been a coconut tree, then we would have seen the roots of it. You could see that, you know, it would move, but her hair was blowing. I saw half her body and it was naked. She was like this (demonstrating posture), with her legs like this.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/(...);topicseen#msg348591
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Jossy Mansur
NANCY GRACE
August 3, 2005
GRACE: And Jossy, have you heard any information regarding a search for one of those little kiddie pools?
MANSUR: They have been searching for that. They have found one, and they`re concentrating on that area where this witness says that when they dumped the body, they covered it with some other bags and then put this little pool on it.
GRACE: OK, I`m sorry. I didn`t hear that. Repeat, Jossy.
MANSUR: They are searching where -- they did find this -- one of these pools, this pool, and they have been searching in that specific area because we have to remember that this garbage has been moved about quite a bit from that day on by big tractors and front-end loaders and whatever.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/03/ng.01.html
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Dave Holloway
RED - Scared Monkey Front Page
September 15, 2005
Dave Holloway later went on to say that he thought that the pond area/Racquet Club location and the landfill were still points of interest. When asked whether he or the family was ever told that the landfill witness was ever deemed not credible by the LE or Prosecutors office, Dave made it a point to say that he was present when the witness under went a voice analysis and passed it as telling the truth.
http://scaredmonkeys.com/(...)g-to-aruba-tomorrow/
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July 14, 2005 Thursday
SHOW: THE O'REILLY FACTOR 8:48 PM EST
Aruban Reporter Gives Insight Into Holloway Case
BYLINE: Bill O'Reilly
GUESTS: Dilma Arends
SECTION: NEWS; International
O'REILLY: In the "Back of the Book" segment tonight, let's go back to Aruba, where investigative reporter Dilma Arends is standing by. Ms. Arends works for "Bon Dia" newspaper on the island.
I wanted to get a local journalist's point of view here, Ms. Arends, on the events thus far. A lot of us here in the United States feel that the Aruban authorities aren't going to convict anybody in this case. How do you see it?
DILMA ARENDS, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER FOR ARUBAN NEWSPAPER: Well, we see it differently, because we know the system here and we understand it, too.
The authorities, I -- they won't give out what they have. I mean, there's been leaks. For instance, our paper today published some -- some corroboration to what the prosecutor has been saying. And for instance, they're using the cell sites to determine the movements of the three boys.
And by using the cell sites and the batteries of the cell phones of the boys, they were able to determine, for instance, that Joran got home at 4 p.m. -- sorry, 4 a.m. And they also figured out, by using the signals of the battery of the cell phone, that Deepak, indeed, went home but left his house again and was -- was in the area near the Marriott.
So I think they have more -- more proof or more indication than they're telling us.
O'REILLY: Do you believe it strange the Kalpoe brothers are out of jail?
ARENDS: Not really, because when the judge of instruction (ph) reviewed their case, that revision is very, very thorough. It's not surprising that everything was upheld from the previous case.
O'REILLY: Do you believe that it's cruel to the Holloway family for the Aruban government not to really let them in on some facets of the investigation? You know, what you just told us makes a difference to the Holloways -- I'm sure they'll hear it -- because it gives them some hope.
ARENDS: Well, the thing is, again, as has been explained before, if this case goes to court and the judge finds out that some information has been leaked out and the case could be damaged, it could be thrown out based out on technicality. And that's one thing that the prosecution really doesn't want to do.
O'REILLY: Yes, but I mean, I looked at your criminal statutes. And if there's a private attorney who gets access to information and delivers that information, there is no threat of that happening at all. You know that.
ARENDS: Yes, but we also know how reporters are. And we tend to pry. And the Holloways and Twitties have been on all these American shows, and they've been asked and asked, and something can slip and can damage the case.
O'REILLY: All right. I don't quite see it the way that you do. I think that there can be a way to get information to the family that's not going to damage the case or cause anything to be thrown out on a technicality. I believe that it's more convenient for the Aruban government and the authorities there to keep everything locked down.
I'll give you the last word.
ARENDS: Well, convenient, yes, it is convenient to their case, because they have a huge responsibility. It's not only, I mean, of course the emotional part is very heavy, and it is on -- for the part of the family. I mean, it's been six weeks and I mean, everybody acknowledges that.
However, the responsibility is on the shoulders of the investigative team and the prosecution. And they also have to respond to the community for Aruba who has been bearing this all. I mean, we've been suffering, too. Perhaps not to the extent of the emotional part of the family, but we certainly have been in the eye of the storm.
O'REILLY: All right. Ms. Arends, thanks very much. We appreciate your point of view. Thanks for coming on "The Factor."
Next we will wrap things up with "The Most Ridiculous Item of the Day," about the BBC, and some of your mail.
LOAD-DATE: July 15, 2005
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In early June 2005 there was a witness who came forward and said he helped bury Natalee with two others using a tarp,white Pu and buried her in a shallow grave with two others. One of the helpers worked at the Marriott. This witness was then locked up in a Mental Hospital in Aruba. The Archives still should be at RWV as well as a tourist who witnessed this from her/his window.
BFN Chat
Art Wood says he talked twice to a witness named Fransisco who in early June said he helped bury Natalee with two others. He talked to his friends and they said he was not crazy.
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WITNESS CLAIMS HE HELPED BURY NATALEE HOLLOWAY ON THE MORNING SHE WENT MISSING.
WITNESS CLAIMS VEHICLES USED WERE SIMILAR TO VEHICLES IDENTIFIED BY THE LANDFILL WITNESS.
WITNESS IS IN A PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL.
http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=08117149-1e27-4191-8c4c-4fe37b86cba8
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Jossy Mansur
NANCY GRACE
July 29, 2005
GRACE: OK. Jossy, is there any way to tie in a white pick-up to this scenario?
MANSUR: Yes, ma`am, because there`s another witness that, before that, told someone that works at the hotels that he saw a white pick-up over there by the Holiday Inn, in which three persons were also in, all of them male, carrying what looked like the body of a girl, putting it in the back of the white pick-up and driving away with it.
GRACE: OK. So you`ve got a white pick-up at the Holiday Inn, where Natalee was staying. You`ve got a white pick-up at the landfill. Both eyewitnesses state that there were three individuals, I`m assuming male. But can they give an identification of Joran Van Der Sloot or the Kalpoe brothers?
MANSUR: None of them have given that kind of a description. They haven`t identified the three males. But it`s very important to note that the witness on the beach by the Holiday Inn has absolutely no knowledge of the witness over there to the east side of the island by the landfill or dump. They don't know each other, but still they give the same description of the same white pick-up.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/29/ng.01.html
The witness by the landfill tells us that he was sitting in his car and he saw a white pick-up truck drive in, their were 3 occupants and 2 of them got out. Picked up a trash can plastic bag, the black ones, the big ones and they carried it over to where this whole bunch of other bags and rubble was. Now when they were doing that, he says that some blond hair fell out of the bag because the bag was not properly sealed and that he could see parts of human body and then he saw them dig a little among the rubble that was there already and then place this bag there then covered with some other near by lying bags and then put a small pool, plastic pool that babies swim in or bathe in on top of it and then put some more stuff and then walked away. He also told us that there was another car outside of the cyclone fence, looking on. The man in that car stepped out, he stood by the fence and looked at the whole proceeding's. We do believe him because from the beginning he has been reliable with his story and it does fit the description we got from another witness between the Holiday Inn and the Marriott Hotel.
The letter that we received is from the wife of the person with whom this guy was on the beach with between the Holiday Inn and Marriott wrote us because she was getting a annoyed that no one was paying attention to the declaration that this man gave to her husband at the hotel.
I will read it for you... The day after Natalee was missing a person called Barbeshe (Bar-Be-she) told a story that the night before he saw 3 people in front of the Holiday Inn with a girl's body. That they tried to take a towel from one the "walks fence's" (really hard to understand him here - sounds like he says "water sports dance or fence") to wrap the body and they could not get it down. Then one of them went to the garbage cans at the Holiday Inn and pulled the bags out and wrapped the body, then put her in the white pick-up and left. They went out and turned left towards the lighthouse and turned off on a dirt road and dug a hole and put her in it and threw out the shovel. He also said he told the police and they sent him on a 4 wheeler to try and find, locate the spot and he had been threatened by these people. This person has been seen on the beach everyday has no longer been seen after this and was known to be there daily.
http://www.riehlworldview(...)ive/2005/08/fyi.html
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Susan Candiotti - Cnn Correspondent
NANCY GRACE
July 29, 2005
CANDIOTTI: Well, according to sources familiar with the investigation, at least one witness has come forward who claims to have seen more than one person dumping what the witness says could have been a body. The body was, I am told, covered in some fashion, and that this happened at a public landfill not long before closing time. Now, when this happened, sources close to the investigation would not tell me exactly when this happened. But again, it was close to closing time. And this is a landfill where the public can go and dispose of waste. Now, this same witness claims to have told police that he saw a vehicle and was able to provide a tag number to police. I am told that this is a registered car in Aruba, but I can`t tell you more than that.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0507/29/ng.01.html
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Roy Tromp
CNN NEWS
July 30, 2005
In addition to the pond, Trump said authorities are searching a landfill for the third time since a witness came forward shortly after Holloway disappeared. Trump said that authorities did not want to leave any stone unturned.
The witness claimed he saw more than one person dump into the landfill something he believes could have been a covered body, CNN has learned from sources briefed on the investigation. The witness also gave police a license tag number that reportedly belonged to a white pickup truck.
Police tell CNN that a tag check found that the vehicle was not at the landfill at or around the time the witness claimed.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/30/aruba.missing/index.html
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Listen to the end of this clip (Dave talking about the Landfill witness)
http://tinyurl.com/2bnqyq
==========================================
The following post was made by Red (not our RED) in the Prophecies forum:
A local young person was the one who tipped regarding the body in the landfill. This person saw that on 2 days after Natalee was reported missing he saw some guys take out a large garbage with a stiff body.
As they took the body out, the wind blew the bag open and in it he
saw that a body was laying stiff on a blue beach bed and the legs were crossed on to the other and he saw long blond hair.
This car was a light coloured truck, he took the number plate and reported this to the authorities. They found out that this car belonged to a POLICE auth. He was driving around with a towel with the blood on it,
but they never cared for his story!!.
He said that yesterday US media went to his house, but he refused to give any reports. He said tomorrow he will give an interv. with Canal 90
local radio, afterwards to US media..
will keep U posted.
red.
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Tim Miller
Associated Press
July 30, 2005
The witness claimed he saw the men dumping the body on the afternoon of June 1, said Tim Miller, director of Texas EquuSearch, which is coordinating the landfill search.
The FBI and Aruban police have questioned the witness, an Aruban man who claimed to be dropping off trash at the time, Miller said.
"He said he saw a face, blond hair and a woman's chest, and that the body was dumped and covered," Miller said. "His story has been consistent."
The witness could not identify the men but said they were driving a light colored jeep, Miller said. The witness told his brother what he saw soon afterward, and the brother told police, he said.
http://www.cbsnews.com/st(...)?source=search_story
Edwin Comenencia - Police Spokesman
NBC NEWS
July 31, 2005
Police spokesman Edwin Comenencia said police searched the landfill after receiving the tip in days following Holloway?s disappearance, but found nothing. He said the witness recently approached Holloway?s family, who asked for another search.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8745217/
Gerold Dompig
48 Hours Mystery
March 25, 2006
The Aruban authorities new theory is that someone, someone possibly very close to the young suspects, took the time to carefully hide the body, not once but maybe twice, literally re-burying her.
http://www.cbsnews.com/st(...)n1430644_page4.shtml
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THE LANDFILL WITNESS
Junior - The Landfill Witness
On the Record w/ Greta
August 4, 2005
GRETA VAN VAN SUSTEREN: What did you see?
JUNIOR: There were three who came before in a pickup truck. Then one was already there on the field. Then this other man and a woman along with two gentlemen in the back came. Yes, there was a woman--a woman who was brunette. There were two men in the back on the Jeep; also, there was a yellow car there.
VAN SUSTEREN: What time of day?
JUNIOR: This happened, well, at the time I saw them bury her it turns out that was the body of Natalee, the girl. At that time I thought it was just a tree--a coconut tree. That is what I thought. She was wrapped in plastic--covered in plastic--but there was a breeze and the bag sort of fell half way off and I saw half the body naked. It was a black plastic bag, and the woman was wearing no clothes. She had no clothes on. She was naked, just half her body I saw. I was by myself at that time at the place where we dump the garbage. How far? I was approximately seventy-five to eighty meters away. This was afternoon--4:30, 5:30--between 4:30 and 5:30. I, I felt there was something wrong, but more people kept coming from nearby. There was another car with a woman. The yellow car had a woman there, too, so, I thought there was nothing? Total, there were three cars; the pickup with the small trailer in the back, then there was a Jeep, and a yellow station wagon.
VAN SUSTEREN: When did he first call anybody about it?
JUNIOR: I called the Police, ?that was? that happened on Monday or Sunday because at that time the picture of the guys they were looking for had not been published in the paper yet. That is right. And then I recognized them immediately when I saw the picture. I felt--one day later I called the Police. I was saying, you know, you just want to call, and call, and call, and call--day and night--I kept calling but I kept getting a tape.
VAN SUSTEREN: What is his level of certainty?
JUNIOR: Am I certain? Yes, I am really sure. That is why I think, today, ?I?m sure, I?m sure. I have no doubt in my mind.? Yes. Also the father, I believe, yes, yes. Also him. I was even more sure it was this girl because now there were two cars. The Police have two cars--the red Jeep, which? I saw that. I saw that because the red Jeep was fine, but that came later, that was the next day. I was near the place where she was buried--may she rest in peace. I was there, maybe, nine days later.
VAN SUSTEREN: If there were three, does the father make four, or, is the father one of the three?
JUNIOR: The father came in the Jeep. He got out of the car. He was standing there and he was pointing and asking things. I was working, you know, but he was far and he was talking. I was just working and looking. He kept asking if everything was okay. Yes, they asked him. I thought that they were asking him, that is what I thought they were doing, asking him, ?Where? Where??
VAN SUSTEREN: Have the Police interviewed him [JUNIOR; my insertion] yet?
JUNIOR: The Police they have come to me and I pointed them to the place and they went for my message but never got it. They did not come back. This was in my mind and kept bothering me. I said this all to a friend of mine who lives nearby. I told her what happened and I said, "No one believes me."
VAN SUSTEREN: What, exactly, did he see of the body?
JUNIOR: Half body. I saw half the body and the hair flying in the wind--blowing in the wind. Then I was for sure because had it have been a coconut tree, then we would have seen the roots of it. You could see that, you know, it would move, but her hair was blowing. I saw half her body and it was naked. She was like this (demonstrating posture), with her legs like this.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/(...);topicseen#msg348591
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Jossy Mansur
NANCY GRACE
August 3, 2005
GRACE: And Jossy, have you heard any information regarding a search for one of those little kiddie pools?
MANSUR: They have been searching for that. They have found one, and they`re concentrating on that area where this witness says that when they dumped the body, they covered it with some other bags and then put this little pool on it.
GRACE: OK, I`m sorry. I didn`t hear that. Repeat, Jossy.
MANSUR: They are searching where -- they did find this -- one of these pools, this pool, and they have been searching in that specific area because we have to remember that this garbage has been moved about quite a bit from that day on by big tractors and front-end loaders and whatever.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0508/03/ng.01.html
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Dave Holloway
RED - Scared Monkey Front Page
September 15, 2005
Dave Holloway later went on to say that he thought that the pond area/Racquet Club location and the landfill were still points of interest. When asked whether he or the family was ever told that the landfill witness was ever deemed not credible by the LE or Prosecutors office, Dave made it a point to say that he was present when the witness under went a voice analysis and passed it as telling the truth.
http://scaredmonkeys.com/(...)g-to-aruba-tomorrow/
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July 14, 2005 Thursday
SHOW: THE O'REILLY FACTOR 8:48 PM EST
Aruban Reporter Gives Insight Into Holloway Case
BYLINE: Bill O'Reilly
GUESTS: Dilma Arends
SECTION: NEWS; International
O'REILLY: In the "Back of the Book" segment tonight, let's go back to Aruba, where investigative reporter Dilma Arends is standing by. Ms. Arends works for "Bon Dia" newspaper on the island.
I wanted to get a local journalist's point of view here, Ms. Arends, on the events thus far. A lot of us here in the United States feel that the Aruban authorities aren't going to convict anybody in this case. How do you see it?
DILMA ARENDS, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER FOR ARUBAN NEWSPAPER: Well, we see it differently, because we know the system here and we understand it, too.
The authorities, I -- they won't give out what they have. I mean, there's been leaks. For instance, our paper today published some -- some corroboration to what the prosecutor has been saying. And for instance, they're using the cell sites to determine the movements of the three boys.
And by using the cell sites and the batteries of the cell phones of the boys, they were able to determine, for instance, that Joran got home at 4 p.m. -- sorry, 4 a.m. And they also figured out, by using the signals of the battery of the cell phone, that Deepak, indeed, went home but left his house again and was -- was in the area near the Marriott.
So I think they have more -- more proof or more indication than they're telling us.
O'REILLY: Do you believe it strange the Kalpoe brothers are out of jail?
ARENDS: Not really, because when the judge of instruction (ph) reviewed their case, that revision is very, very thorough. It's not surprising that everything was upheld from the previous case.
O'REILLY: Do you believe that it's cruel to the Holloway family for the Aruban government not to really let them in on some facets of the investigation? You know, what you just told us makes a difference to the Holloways -- I'm sure they'll hear it -- because it gives them some hope.
ARENDS: Well, the thing is, again, as has been explained before, if this case goes to court and the judge finds out that some information has been leaked out and the case could be damaged, it could be thrown out based out on technicality. And that's one thing that the prosecution really doesn't want to do.
O'REILLY: Yes, but I mean, I looked at your criminal statutes. And if there's a private attorney who gets access to information and delivers that information, there is no threat of that happening at all. You know that.
ARENDS: Yes, but we also know how reporters are. And we tend to pry. And the Holloways and Twitties have been on all these American shows, and they've been asked and asked, and something can slip and can damage the case.
O'REILLY: All right. I don't quite see it the way that you do. I think that there can be a way to get information to the family that's not going to damage the case or cause anything to be thrown out on a technicality. I believe that it's more convenient for the Aruban government and the authorities there to keep everything locked down.
I'll give you the last word.
ARENDS: Well, convenient, yes, it is convenient to their case, because they have a huge responsibility. It's not only, I mean, of course the emotional part is very heavy, and it is on -- for the part of the family. I mean, it's been six weeks and I mean, everybody acknowledges that.
However, the responsibility is on the shoulders of the investigative team and the prosecution. And they also have to respond to the community for Aruba who has been bearing this all. I mean, we've been suffering, too. Perhaps not to the extent of the emotional part of the family, but we certainly have been in the eye of the storm.
O'REILLY: All right. Ms. Arends, thanks very much. We appreciate your point of view. Thanks for coming on "The Factor."
Next we will wrap things up with "The Most Ridiculous Item of the Day," about the BBC, and some of your mail.
LOAD-DATE: July 15, 2005
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"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
More on the landfill witness and is his story more credible now that he said there was MUD on the deceased Natalee?
On August 3, 2005 a man whose first name is RAOUL stated to FOX News that he is a good friend of the landfill witness (who wants to remain anonymous), and the two men worked together about 4 years ago. RAOUL stated the landfill witness is married and stable, and is an illegal alien. RAOUL stated the landfill witness is not crazy and believes very strongly what he saw. After RAOUL learned about his friend seeing the woman?s buried body and the landfill witness saying he was only reaching an ARUBAN Police answering machine, RAOUL said he kept urging the landfill witness to keep phoning the ARUBAN Police, which the landfill witness did. The same day he saw Prime Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT, Current Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE, and Current Suspect SATISH KALPOE bury the blonde-haired nude woman in the landfill he also saw all 3 Suspects being shown on TV. When he saw them on TV he phoned the ARUBAN Police and told them he had seen the 3 suspects shown on TV at the landfill burying a woman?s body, but the ARUBAN Police did not go to the landfill and check for a body right away. RAOUL said when the landfill witness saw the 3 Suspects they had a shovel, they used the shovel to remove the ?sand? in the landfill and they dug the hole. It was windy, and at one point the wind blew open the black garbage bag the woman?s body was in and he could see about half of her nude body and blonde hair. RAOUL stated, "He see the half the body and I told you the hair was muddy and the skin was like purple. They then buried the woman, then covered her up with the ?sand,? and afterwards they put the blue kiddie pool over where they buried her body. RAOUL stated that on the day Prime Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT, Current Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE, and Current Suspect SATISH KALPOE buried the woman?s body they did not need a permit to enter the landfill, so the white truck they drove just entered the landfill. The landfill witness even told the landfill manager about the buried body and urged him not to disturb or drive a bulldozer over the area where the body was so the ARUBAN Police could find the body when they came to the landfill.
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PROCES-VERBAAL (SECOND STATEMENT SUSPECT D.S. KALPOE) June 10th 2005
To your question as to how it is possible that my car looks so clean, I can state the following. My car according to me is not clean because if you look at the outside you can see there is mud on the bottom of the car.
On August 3, 2005 a man whose first name is RAOUL stated to FOX News that he is a good friend of the landfill witness (who wants to remain anonymous), and the two men worked together about 4 years ago. RAOUL stated the landfill witness is married and stable, and is an illegal alien. RAOUL stated the landfill witness is not crazy and believes very strongly what he saw. After RAOUL learned about his friend seeing the woman?s buried body and the landfill witness saying he was only reaching an ARUBAN Police answering machine, RAOUL said he kept urging the landfill witness to keep phoning the ARUBAN Police, which the landfill witness did. The same day he saw Prime Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT, Current Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE, and Current Suspect SATISH KALPOE bury the blonde-haired nude woman in the landfill he also saw all 3 Suspects being shown on TV. When he saw them on TV he phoned the ARUBAN Police and told them he had seen the 3 suspects shown on TV at the landfill burying a woman?s body, but the ARUBAN Police did not go to the landfill and check for a body right away. RAOUL said when the landfill witness saw the 3 Suspects they had a shovel, they used the shovel to remove the ?sand? in the landfill and they dug the hole. It was windy, and at one point the wind blew open the black garbage bag the woman?s body was in and he could see about half of her nude body and blonde hair. RAOUL stated, "He see the half the body and I told you the hair was muddy and the skin was like purple. They then buried the woman, then covered her up with the ?sand,? and afterwards they put the blue kiddie pool over where they buried her body. RAOUL stated that on the day Prime Suspect JORAN VAN DER SLOOT, Current Suspect DEEPAK KALPOE, and Current Suspect SATISH KALPOE buried the woman?s body they did not need a permit to enter the landfill, so the white truck they drove just entered the landfill. The landfill witness even told the landfill manager about the buried body and urged him not to disturb or drive a bulldozer over the area where the body was so the ARUBAN Police could find the body when they came to the landfill.
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PROCES-VERBAAL (SECOND STATEMENT SUSPECT D.S. KALPOE) June 10th 2005
To your question as to how it is possible that my car looks so clean, I can state the following. My car according to me is not clean because if you look at the outside you can see there is mud on the bottom of the car.
"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
What Happened to Natalee Holloway 60 Minutes
http://www.aetv.com/listings/episode_details.do?episodeid=360922
Big Spender (program show title)
“What Happened to Natalee Holloway?”
Rated: TVPG
Running Time: 60 Minutes
Upcoming Airings:
Thursday, September 18 @ 11pm/10C
Friday, September 19 @ 3am/2C
Sunday, September 21 @ 4pm/3C
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Bill Kurtis hosts this documentary special that looks at the case that shocked the nation--the disappearance of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway on the island of Aruba on May 30, 2005. Natalee was last seen alive leaving a bar with three young local men, who became the prime suspects. Natalee's mother, Beth, is convinced that the men know what happened to her daughter, but authorities have been unable to come up with definitive proof that they are responsible for her death. Kurtis examines the key questions in the case: Will Natalee's body ever be found? Why can't authorities solve the case? And where did the investigation go wrong?
http://www.aetv.com/listings/episode_details.do?episodeid=360922
Big Spender (program show title)
“What Happened to Natalee Holloway?”
Rated: TVPG
Running Time: 60 Minutes
Upcoming Airings:
Thursday, September 18 @ 11pm/10C
Friday, September 19 @ 3am/2C
Sunday, September 21 @ 4pm/3C
Search for other upcoming episodes
Bill Kurtis hosts this documentary special that looks at the case that shocked the nation--the disappearance of 18-year-old Natalee Holloway on the island of Aruba on May 30, 2005. Natalee was last seen alive leaving a bar with three young local men, who became the prime suspects. Natalee's mother, Beth, is convinced that the men know what happened to her daughter, but authorities have been unable to come up with definitive proof that they are responsible for her death. Kurtis examines the key questions in the case: Will Natalee's body ever be found? Why can't authorities solve the case? And where did the investigation go wrong?
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
Here are the "family member's" posts from Riehl:
Quote:
I'm in Mountain Brook and from the people who have recently returned from Aruba is that Van der Sloot's dad was seen at a McDonald's at 3 a.m. the night Natalee disappeared.
I don't think this has been reported in the mainstream media so hopefully this will help those of of you who are following this closely. This is my first post here and I'm posting something I think all of you might find significant.
Natalee goes missing at about 1 to 1:30 a.m. and the Van der Sloot's dad is seen at a McDonalds at 3a.m. I assume the dad has a job and would have to be at work the next day. There to me it is very suspicious
Quote:
I'm in Mountain Brook and from the people who have recently returned from Aruba is that Van der Sloot's dad was seen at a McDonald's at 3 a.m. the night Natalee disappeared.
I don't think this has been reported in the mainstream media so hopefully this will help those of of you who are following this closely. This is my first post here and I'm posting something I think all of you might find significant.
Natalee goes missing at about 1 to 1:30 a.m. and the Van der Sloot's dad is seen at a McDonalds at 3a.m. I assume the dad has a job and would have to be at work the next day. There to me it is very suspicious
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
PAULUS EN JORAN GEZIEN BIJ POND
Key witness reveals what happened 4:05 am at Monserat
Paulus and Joran were “looking” for something on the side of the road
ORANJESTAD(AAN): Last week, DIARIO published the latest information regarding the key witness, who came forward to disclose everything he witnessed on May 2005 from his house, which is situated in the neighborhood of the Nacional Soccer field, close to the Monserat pond.
However the witness was afraid to come forward to the Police and local Prosecutor, because of the prejudice in the Prosecutor Office, which is alive and growing each day.
He did give a statement to the Prosecutor, but to certain extent. The more important and key details he revealed to the American investigators.
The American investigators listened very carefully to his story and immediately felt that he was telling the truth. They then asked him if he was willing to go to the States and pass a polygraph test.
The witness was tested by John S. Swartz, a renowned professional in this field, and the test revealed that he was telling the truth! Finally shedding some light on the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in 2005.
Last week, after months of following the new developments, DIARIO published the first part of the witness’ statement. This statement that was already in Prosecutor Mos’s hands.
DIARIO opted to wait until after the FBI sent the results of the polygraph test and their investigation to Holland, before publishing the second part of the statement, considering that Holland would send a copy to Aruba.
THE WITNESS’ STATEMENT
On May 30th, 2005 he was sleeping in his room; when he was awaken by the alarming sound of barking dogs. He opened his eyes and checked his alarm clock; it was 4:05 am.
He got up and listening to where the barking was coming from, he went in the living room and peeked thru the window to find out why the dogs sounded so alarmed.
Under the streetlight, he saw someone walking towards his house, from the Nacional Soccer field, close to the Monserat pond and hotel area.
While the person was walking under another streetlight, he could clearly see the person. It was undoubtedly a man, notably tall, slim, Caucasian, with short and dark hair, relatively young and he looked like a Dutch citizen.
He could see his profile and one side of his face.
He was wearing a red t-shirt and light colored pants. The witness noticed by the way the person was limping, that he was missing his right sneaker or shoe. He also noted that the person was breathing extremely hard, as if he just had been running very hard for a long time. His chest was heaving.
WET AND MUDDY CLOTHES
The witness stated (and probably also in the lie-detector test), that the person clothes were wet and that he also saw a muddy stripe on his chest, more or less about 5 centimeters above his chest.
The muddy stripe on his chest clearly showed that he was completely wet.
At first glance, the witness though that the person maybe had been in a fight with someone, and he was running not to get beat up. But his face showed no bruises or blood.
But because he didn’t look back not even to check if someone might be following him and just kept walking fast with his head down, the witness thought he did something other that fighting.
The person walked past his house, and kept walking, until he was out of sight, and he never raised his head or looked back, and just kept walking in the hotel’s direction.
This happened in about one minute.
NEW INFORMATION
After the witness saw the person walk past his house and was out of sight, he sat down in his living room for about 5 minutes.
He then noticed a car driving slowly, coming from the hotel area. Behind the wheel was a middle-aged, Caucasian man. Next to him, the witness saw the young man that was walking past his house a few minutes earlier.
The witness said they were driving a red jeep, and that they were driving extremely slow. He stated to the American investigators that was clearly that the driver and the passenger were looking for something on the floor. He said that the car just keep going in the direction of the Monserat pond.
HE RECOGNIZED THE DRIVER
According to the witness, in the following weeks he recognized the young man as Joran van der Sloot, when his pictures started to circulate in the press, and that the disappearance of Natalee Holloway became an international media frenzy.
He also recognized the driver as Paulus van der Sloot, Joran’s father. The witness stated that, that was everything he saw and that nothing more happened.
The question in everyone mind is: What were Paulus and Joran looking for on that road? The fact that the witness passed the polygraph test and is telling the truth is enough to focus the attention on that.
Of course the public wants to know why this witness didn’t come forward in 2005.
The witness was afraid of the consequences of his statement, since he was well aware that Paulus van der Sloot has powerful connections in the Prosecutors Office. Paulus is a lawyer, and he was studying to become a judge.
Knowing that the justice system in Aruba is totally in Dutch hands, he felt compelled to keep his mouth shut. This went on for more than 2 years, and in the end of 2007, he felt the need to reveal what he saw that day from his house.
The witness hired a lawyer to defend him, because in such a complicated case, even the witness has to be prepared for any eventuality, and also for guidance.
Meanwhile American investigators, with the consent from local authorities, did a sonar test at the Monserat pond in the beginning of this year, when the water level was low.
DIARIO was informed that this test discovered 15 objects underwater, and that only 3 could be defined.
A polygraph (popularly referred to as a lie detector) is an instrument that measures and records several physiological responses such as blood pressure, pulse, respiration and skin conductivity while the subject is asked and answers a series of questions, on the theory that false answers will produce distinctive measurements. The polygraph measures physiological changes caused by the sympathetic nervous system during questioning.
The 48 year old witness passed this test with flying colors, indicating that everything he saw that dawn, close to the Monserat pond, is true.
DIARIO presumes that the Prosecutor’s Office received this statement from Holland, and just in case they didn’t, they can read it today for free and begin to do their homework.
Key witness reveals what happened 4:05 am at Monserat
Paulus and Joran were “looking” for something on the side of the road
ORANJESTAD(AAN): Last week, DIARIO published the latest information regarding the key witness, who came forward to disclose everything he witnessed on May 2005 from his house, which is situated in the neighborhood of the Nacional Soccer field, close to the Monserat pond.
However the witness was afraid to come forward to the Police and local Prosecutor, because of the prejudice in the Prosecutor Office, which is alive and growing each day.
He did give a statement to the Prosecutor, but to certain extent. The more important and key details he revealed to the American investigators.
The American investigators listened very carefully to his story and immediately felt that he was telling the truth. They then asked him if he was willing to go to the States and pass a polygraph test.
The witness was tested by John S. Swartz, a renowned professional in this field, and the test revealed that he was telling the truth! Finally shedding some light on the disappearance of Natalee Holloway in 2005.
Last week, after months of following the new developments, DIARIO published the first part of the witness’ statement. This statement that was already in Prosecutor Mos’s hands.
DIARIO opted to wait until after the FBI sent the results of the polygraph test and their investigation to Holland, before publishing the second part of the statement, considering that Holland would send a copy to Aruba.
THE WITNESS’ STATEMENT
On May 30th, 2005 he was sleeping in his room; when he was awaken by the alarming sound of barking dogs. He opened his eyes and checked his alarm clock; it was 4:05 am.
He got up and listening to where the barking was coming from, he went in the living room and peeked thru the window to find out why the dogs sounded so alarmed.
Under the streetlight, he saw someone walking towards his house, from the Nacional Soccer field, close to the Monserat pond and hotel area.
While the person was walking under another streetlight, he could clearly see the person. It was undoubtedly a man, notably tall, slim, Caucasian, with short and dark hair, relatively young and he looked like a Dutch citizen.
He could see his profile and one side of his face.
He was wearing a red t-shirt and light colored pants. The witness noticed by the way the person was limping, that he was missing his right sneaker or shoe. He also noted that the person was breathing extremely hard, as if he just had been running very hard for a long time. His chest was heaving.
WET AND MUDDY CLOTHES
The witness stated (and probably also in the lie-detector test), that the person clothes were wet and that he also saw a muddy stripe on his chest, more or less about 5 centimeters above his chest.
The muddy stripe on his chest clearly showed that he was completely wet.
At first glance, the witness though that the person maybe had been in a fight with someone, and he was running not to get beat up. But his face showed no bruises or blood.
But because he didn’t look back not even to check if someone might be following him and just kept walking fast with his head down, the witness thought he did something other that fighting.
The person walked past his house, and kept walking, until he was out of sight, and he never raised his head or looked back, and just kept walking in the hotel’s direction.
This happened in about one minute.
NEW INFORMATION
After the witness saw the person walk past his house and was out of sight, he sat down in his living room for about 5 minutes.
He then noticed a car driving slowly, coming from the hotel area. Behind the wheel was a middle-aged, Caucasian man. Next to him, the witness saw the young man that was walking past his house a few minutes earlier.
The witness said they were driving a red jeep, and that they were driving extremely slow. He stated to the American investigators that was clearly that the driver and the passenger were looking for something on the floor. He said that the car just keep going in the direction of the Monserat pond.
HE RECOGNIZED THE DRIVER
According to the witness, in the following weeks he recognized the young man as Joran van der Sloot, when his pictures started to circulate in the press, and that the disappearance of Natalee Holloway became an international media frenzy.
He also recognized the driver as Paulus van der Sloot, Joran’s father. The witness stated that, that was everything he saw and that nothing more happened.
The question in everyone mind is: What were Paulus and Joran looking for on that road? The fact that the witness passed the polygraph test and is telling the truth is enough to focus the attention on that.
Of course the public wants to know why this witness didn’t come forward in 2005.
The witness was afraid of the consequences of his statement, since he was well aware that Paulus van der Sloot has powerful connections in the Prosecutors Office. Paulus is a lawyer, and he was studying to become a judge.
Knowing that the justice system in Aruba is totally in Dutch hands, he felt compelled to keep his mouth shut. This went on for more than 2 years, and in the end of 2007, he felt the need to reveal what he saw that day from his house.
The witness hired a lawyer to defend him, because in such a complicated case, even the witness has to be prepared for any eventuality, and also for guidance.
Meanwhile American investigators, with the consent from local authorities, did a sonar test at the Monserat pond in the beginning of this year, when the water level was low.
DIARIO was informed that this test discovered 15 objects underwater, and that only 3 could be defined.
A polygraph (popularly referred to as a lie detector) is an instrument that measures and records several physiological responses such as blood pressure, pulse, respiration and skin conductivity while the subject is asked and answers a series of questions, on the theory that false answers will produce distinctive measurements. The polygraph measures physiological changes caused by the sympathetic nervous system during questioning.
The 48 year old witness passed this test with flying colors, indicating that everything he saw that dawn, close to the Monserat pond, is true.
DIARIO presumes that the Prosecutor’s Office received this statement from Holland, and just in case they didn’t, they can read it today for free and begin to do their homework.
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
PAULUS EN JORAN Bij Vijver gezien
16-9-2008
oranjestad
Diario
De zeer belangrijke getuige openbaart wat 4:05 am in Monserat gebeurde
Paulus en Joran „keken“ voor iets aan de kant van de weg
ORANJESTAD (AAN): Vorige week, publiceerde DIARIO de recentste informatie betreffende de belangrijkste getuige, die vooruit alles kwam onthullen hij op Mei 2005 van zijn huis, dat in de buurt van het gebied van het Voetbal Nacional gesitueerd is, dicht bij de vijver Monserat getuigde.
Nochtans was de getuige bang om vooruit aan de Politie en de lokale Eiser, wegens het nadeel in het Bureau van de Eiser te komen, dat elke dag in leven en kwekend is.
Hij gaf een verklaring aan de Eiser, maar tot op zekere hoogte . De belangrijkere en belangrijkste details die hij aan de Amerikaanse onderzoekers heeft geopenbaard.
De Amerikaanse onderzoekers luisterden zeer zorgvuldig aan zijn verhaal en waren onmiddellijk van mening dat hij de waarheid vertelde. Zij vroegen hem toen of was hij bereid om naar de Staten te gaan en een polygraph test over te gaan.
De getuige werd getest door John S. Swartz, een renowned beroeps op dit gebied, en de test openbaarden dat hij de waarheid vertelde! Tot slot afwerpend wat licht op de verdwijning van Natalee Holloway in 2005.
Vorige week, na maanden van het volgende van de nieuwe ontwikkelingen, publiceerde DIARIO het eerste deel van de getuigen' verklaring. Deze verklaring die reeds in Mos van de Eiser handen was.
DIARIO opteerde om te wachten tot nadat FBI de resultaten van de polygraph test en hun onderzoek naar Holland verzond, alvorens het tweede deel te publiceren dat van de verklaring van mening is, dat Holland een exemplaar naar Aruba zou verzenden.
DE VERKLARING VAN DE GETUIGE'
Op 30 Mei, 2005 sliep hij in zijn ruimte; toen hij was wek door het alarmerende geluid van blaffende honden. Hij opende zijn ogen en controleerde zijn wekker; het was 4:05 am.
Hij stond op en luisterend aan waar het ontschorsen kwam uit, ging hij in de woonkamer en gluurde door het venster om te weten te komen waarom de honden zo gealarmeerd klonken.
Onder de straatlantaarn, zag hij iemand lopend naar zijn huis, van het gebied van het Voetbal Nacional, dicht bij het vijver Monserat en hotel gebied.
Terwijl de persoon onder een andere straatlantaarn liep, kon hij de persoon duidelijk zien. Het was ongetwijfeld een mens, in het bijzonder lang, slank, Kaukasisch, met kort en donker vrij jong haar, en hij keek als een Nederlandse burger.
Hij kon zijn profiel en één kant van zijn gezicht zien.
Hij droeg een rode t-shirt en een lichte broek. De getuige die door de manier wordt opgemerkt de persoon limping, dat hij zijn juiste tennisschoen of schoen miste. Hij merkte ook op dat de persoon uiterst hard ademde, alsof hij net zeer hard lange tijd had gelopen. Zijn borst hees.
NATTE EN MODDERIGE KLEREN
De verklaarde getuige (en waarschijnlijk ook in de leugen-detector test), die de persoonskleren nat waren en die hij ook een modderige streep op zijn borst zag, min of meer ongeveer 5 centimeters boven zijn borst.
De modderige streep op zijn borst toonde duidelijk aan dat hij volledig nat was.
Eerst omhoog sloeg de blik, de getuige hoewel dat de persoon misschien in een strijd met iemand was geweest, en hij niet om liep te krijgen. Maar zijn gezicht toonde geen kneuzingen of bloed.
Maar omdat hij niet terug niet zelfs om keek te controleren als iemand hem zou kunnen volgen en enkel gehouden lopend snel met zijn neer hoofd, dacht de getuige hij iets andere dat het vechten deed.
De persoon liep voorbij zijn huis, en hield lopend, tot hij uit gezicht was, en hij hief nooit zijn hoofd op of keek terug, en hield enkel lopend in de richting van het hotel.
Dit gebeurde in ongeveer één minuut.
NIEUWE INFORMATIE
Nadat de getuige de persoonsgang voorbij zijn huis zag en uit gezicht was, ging zitten hij in zijn woonkamer ongeveer 5 minuten.
Hij merkte toen auto langzaam het drijven op, komend uit het hotel gebied. Achter het wiel was een mens op middelbare leeftijd, Kaukasische. Naast hem, zag de getuige de jonge man die voorbij zijn huis een paar vroeger notulen liep.
De getuige zei zij rode jeep dreven, en dat zij uiterst langzaam dreven. Hij verklaarde aan de Amerikaanse onderzoekers die was duidelijk dat de bestuurder en de passagier iets op de vloer zochten. Hij zei dat de auto enkel houdt gaand in de richting van de vijver Monserat.
HIJ ERKENDE DE BESTUURDER
Volgens de getuige, in de volgende weken erkende hij de jonge man als Joran van der Sloot, toen zijn beelden om in de pers begonnen door te geven, en dat de verdwijning van Natalee Holloway internationale media frenzy werd.
Hij erkende ook de bestuurder als Paulus van der Sloot, de vader van Joran. De getuige verklaarde dat, dat alles was hij zag en dat niets meer gebeurde.
De vraag in iedereen mening is: Wat waren Paulus en Joran zoekend op die weg? Het feit dat de getuige de polygraph test overging en de waarheid vertelt is genoeg om de aandacht op dat te concentreren.
Natuurlijk wil het publiek weten waarom deze getuige niet vooruit in 2005 kwam.
De getuige was bang van de gevolgen van zijn verklaring, aangezien hij zich goed ervan bewust was dat Paulus van der Sloot krachtige verbindingen in het Bureau van Eisers heeft. Paulus is een advocaat, en hij bestudeerde om een rechter te worden.
Wetend dat het rechtvaardigheidssysteem in Aruba totaal in Nederlandse handen is, voelde hij gedwongen om zijn mond gesloten te houden. Dit ging meer dan 2 jaar, en in eind 2007, voelde hij de behoefte om te openbaren wat hij die dag aan zijn huis merkte.
De getuige huurde een advocaat in om hem te verdedigen, omdat in zulk een ingewikkelde geval, zelfs de getuige voor om het even welke eventualiteit, en ook op begeleiding moet worden voorbereid.
Ondertussen Amerikaanse onderzoekers, met de toestemming van plaatselijk autoriteiten, damde een sonartest af in Monserat in het begin van dit jaar, toen het waterniveau laag was.
DIARIO werd geïnformeerds dat deze test 15 voorwerpen onderwater ontdekte, en dat slechts 3 zouden kunnen worden bepaald.
Polygraph (die algemeen als leugendetector wordt bedoeld) is een instrument dat meet en verscheidene fysiologische reacties zoals bloeddruk, impuls, ademhaling en huidgeleidingsvermogen terwijl het onderwerp wordt gevraagd en een reeks vragen beantwoordt, op de theorie registreert dat de valse antwoorden distinctieve metingen zullen veroorzaken. Polygraph meet fysiologische veranderingen die door het sympathieke zenuwstelsel tijdens het vragen worden veroorzaakt.
De 48 éénjarigengetuige ging deze test met het vliegen kleuren over erop wijzen , die dat alles zag hij dat de dageraad, dicht bij de vijver Monserat, waar is.
DIARIO veronderstelt dat het Bureau van de Eiser deze verklaring van Holland ontving, en enkel voor het geval dat zij niet, kunnen zij het vandaag lezen kostenloos en beginnen hun thuiswerk te doen.
[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door johan555 op 16-09-2008 22:29:47 ]
16-9-2008
oranjestad
Diario
De zeer belangrijke getuige openbaart wat 4:05 am in Monserat gebeurde
Paulus en Joran „keken“ voor iets aan de kant van de weg
ORANJESTAD (AAN): Vorige week, publiceerde DIARIO de recentste informatie betreffende de belangrijkste getuige, die vooruit alles kwam onthullen hij op Mei 2005 van zijn huis, dat in de buurt van het gebied van het Voetbal Nacional gesitueerd is, dicht bij de vijver Monserat getuigde.
Nochtans was de getuige bang om vooruit aan de Politie en de lokale Eiser, wegens het nadeel in het Bureau van de Eiser te komen, dat elke dag in leven en kwekend is.
Hij gaf een verklaring aan de Eiser, maar tot op zekere hoogte . De belangrijkere en belangrijkste details die hij aan de Amerikaanse onderzoekers heeft geopenbaard.
De Amerikaanse onderzoekers luisterden zeer zorgvuldig aan zijn verhaal en waren onmiddellijk van mening dat hij de waarheid vertelde. Zij vroegen hem toen of was hij bereid om naar de Staten te gaan en een polygraph test over te gaan.
De getuige werd getest door John S. Swartz, een renowned beroeps op dit gebied, en de test openbaarden dat hij de waarheid vertelde! Tot slot afwerpend wat licht op de verdwijning van Natalee Holloway in 2005.
Vorige week, na maanden van het volgende van de nieuwe ontwikkelingen, publiceerde DIARIO het eerste deel van de getuigen' verklaring. Deze verklaring die reeds in Mos van de Eiser handen was.
DIARIO opteerde om te wachten tot nadat FBI de resultaten van de polygraph test en hun onderzoek naar Holland verzond, alvorens het tweede deel te publiceren dat van de verklaring van mening is, dat Holland een exemplaar naar Aruba zou verzenden.
DE VERKLARING VAN DE GETUIGE'
Op 30 Mei, 2005 sliep hij in zijn ruimte; toen hij was wek door het alarmerende geluid van blaffende honden. Hij opende zijn ogen en controleerde zijn wekker; het was 4:05 am.
Hij stond op en luisterend aan waar het ontschorsen kwam uit, ging hij in de woonkamer en gluurde door het venster om te weten te komen waarom de honden zo gealarmeerd klonken.
Onder de straatlantaarn, zag hij iemand lopend naar zijn huis, van het gebied van het Voetbal Nacional, dicht bij het vijver Monserat en hotel gebied.
Terwijl de persoon onder een andere straatlantaarn liep, kon hij de persoon duidelijk zien. Het was ongetwijfeld een mens, in het bijzonder lang, slank, Kaukasisch, met kort en donker vrij jong haar, en hij keek als een Nederlandse burger.
Hij kon zijn profiel en één kant van zijn gezicht zien.
Hij droeg een rode t-shirt en een lichte broek. De getuige die door de manier wordt opgemerkt de persoon limping, dat hij zijn juiste tennisschoen of schoen miste. Hij merkte ook op dat de persoon uiterst hard ademde, alsof hij net zeer hard lange tijd had gelopen. Zijn borst hees.
NATTE EN MODDERIGE KLEREN
De verklaarde getuige (en waarschijnlijk ook in de leugen-detector test), die de persoonskleren nat waren en die hij ook een modderige streep op zijn borst zag, min of meer ongeveer 5 centimeters boven zijn borst.
De modderige streep op zijn borst toonde duidelijk aan dat hij volledig nat was.
Eerst omhoog sloeg de blik, de getuige hoewel dat de persoon misschien in een strijd met iemand was geweest, en hij niet om liep te krijgen. Maar zijn gezicht toonde geen kneuzingen of bloed.
Maar omdat hij niet terug niet zelfs om keek te controleren als iemand hem zou kunnen volgen en enkel gehouden lopend snel met zijn neer hoofd, dacht de getuige hij iets andere dat het vechten deed.
De persoon liep voorbij zijn huis, en hield lopend, tot hij uit gezicht was, en hij hief nooit zijn hoofd op of keek terug, en hield enkel lopend in de richting van het hotel.
Dit gebeurde in ongeveer één minuut.
NIEUWE INFORMATIE
Nadat de getuige de persoonsgang voorbij zijn huis zag en uit gezicht was, ging zitten hij in zijn woonkamer ongeveer 5 minuten.
Hij merkte toen auto langzaam het drijven op, komend uit het hotel gebied. Achter het wiel was een mens op middelbare leeftijd, Kaukasische. Naast hem, zag de getuige de jonge man die voorbij zijn huis een paar vroeger notulen liep.
De getuige zei zij rode jeep dreven, en dat zij uiterst langzaam dreven. Hij verklaarde aan de Amerikaanse onderzoekers die was duidelijk dat de bestuurder en de passagier iets op de vloer zochten. Hij zei dat de auto enkel houdt gaand in de richting van de vijver Monserat.
HIJ ERKENDE DE BESTUURDER
Volgens de getuige, in de volgende weken erkende hij de jonge man als Joran van der Sloot, toen zijn beelden om in de pers begonnen door te geven, en dat de verdwijning van Natalee Holloway internationale media frenzy werd.
Hij erkende ook de bestuurder als Paulus van der Sloot, de vader van Joran. De getuige verklaarde dat, dat alles was hij zag en dat niets meer gebeurde.
De vraag in iedereen mening is: Wat waren Paulus en Joran zoekend op die weg? Het feit dat de getuige de polygraph test overging en de waarheid vertelt is genoeg om de aandacht op dat te concentreren.
Natuurlijk wil het publiek weten waarom deze getuige niet vooruit in 2005 kwam.
De getuige was bang van de gevolgen van zijn verklaring, aangezien hij zich goed ervan bewust was dat Paulus van der Sloot krachtige verbindingen in het Bureau van Eisers heeft. Paulus is een advocaat, en hij bestudeerde om een rechter te worden.
Wetend dat het rechtvaardigheidssysteem in Aruba totaal in Nederlandse handen is, voelde hij gedwongen om zijn mond gesloten te houden. Dit ging meer dan 2 jaar, en in eind 2007, voelde hij de behoefte om te openbaren wat hij die dag aan zijn huis merkte.
De getuige huurde een advocaat in om hem te verdedigen, omdat in zulk een ingewikkelde geval, zelfs de getuige voor om het even welke eventualiteit, en ook op begeleiding moet worden voorbereid.
Ondertussen Amerikaanse onderzoekers, met de toestemming van plaatselijk autoriteiten, damde een sonartest af in Monserat in het begin van dit jaar, toen het waterniveau laag was.
DIARIO werd geïnformeerds dat deze test 15 voorwerpen onderwater ontdekte, en dat slechts 3 zouden kunnen worden bepaald.
Polygraph (die algemeen als leugendetector wordt bedoeld) is een instrument dat meet en verscheidene fysiologische reacties zoals bloeddruk, impuls, ademhaling en huidgeleidingsvermogen terwijl het onderwerp wordt gevraagd en een reeks vragen beantwoordt, op de theorie registreert dat de valse antwoorden distinctieve metingen zullen veroorzaken. Polygraph meet fysiologische veranderingen die door het sympathieke zenuwstelsel tijdens het vragen worden veroorzaakt.
De 48 éénjarigengetuige ging deze test met het vliegen kleuren over erop wijzen , die dat alles zag hij dat de dageraad, dicht bij de vijver Monserat, waar is.
DIARIO veronderstelt dat het Bureau van de Eiser deze verklaring van Holland ontving, en enkel voor het geval dat zij niet, kunnen zij het vandaag lezen kostenloos en beginnen hun thuiswerk te doen.
[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door johan555 op 16-09-2008 22:29:47 ]
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
nee via google maar dat is niet helemaal je van Het !
maar staat ook in het engels hoor
maar staat ook in het engels hoor
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
