Natalee Holloway (in the rebound) #7

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Op dinsdag 19 februari 2008 15:48 schreef THEFXR het volgende:
observer777 wrote: Your wrong it is possible to die from GHB on its own. I just read somewhere from a expert on one of the boards all about it,as there were many deaths here in the states when it was used more in the 1980's. Most Drugs when you combine with others drasticly increases the risk of a overdose. Happens often here in the states with celebrities mixing,especially those pharmaceuticals. I still don't think Natalee died from a OD anyway. There would be no reason to hide the body forever if that were the case.

Overdose
Both GHB and Rohypnol present a serious overdose threat. Since they are depressants, both drugs can be fatal when mixed with alcohol. GHB is especially dangerous because its peak effect is delayed and users often take another dose thinking they haven't taken enough (and GHB can be fatal on its own). GHB is also risky because the strength can vary by batch. Symptoms of overdose can include intense drowsiness, unconsciousness, coma, muscle spasms, disorientation, vomiting, and slowed or stopped breathing. Fatalities usually occur from respiratory failure.
http://www.phoenixhouse.org/National/DrugFacts/drugfacts_ghp.html

now i least know you never used GHB, you know nothing about it, you can only c/p online stories
do you believe everything what is on the internet?

I have read now multiple sources that said this as well as experts on TV ,you are the only one saying its impossible to die from a GHB overdose. It is clear you dont have a clue what you are talking about at all.

GHB is a CNS depressant used as an intoxicant. It has many street names, including Liquid Ecstasy and Liquid X. At recreational doses, GHB can cause a state of euphoria, increased enjoyment of movement and music, increased libido, increased sociability and intoxication. At higher doses, GHB may induce nausea, dizziness, drowsiness, agitation, visual disturbances, depressed breathing, amnesia, unconsciousness, and death

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Hydroxybutyric_acid

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Op dinsdag 19 februari 2008 11:14 schreef duikkie het volgende:
omdat we er hier een puinhoop van maken in nederlands en engels, doe ik ook maar even mee .
because not all americans can read shit about dutch. i will write the important things in ...... dutch
translate or do a "inburgingscurcus" by rita

rosite: er zijn wel miljoenen vragen nog onbeantwoord, maar er geloven ook miljoenen mensen het stand verhaal. ik lees me de laatste tijd een aapezeur. maar waarom geloven in het strand verhaal. is ook verzonnen helaas. natalee is hoogstwaarschijnlijk ergens heen gebracht nadat ze in de auto overleden is door toedoen joran, deepak en satisch. anders zouden deepak en satisch niet zo liegen, ze voelen nog steeds schuld aan moord. Joran krijgt nu de klappen omdat hij hoofdschuldige is in deze zaak en de broers deepak en satisch zijn uit de brand. en omdat het strand verhaal totaal verzonnen is , zal er nooit bewijs komen, ook de schoenen zal je nooit vinden , net als de boot.

wat alleen nu een probleem is voor de van sloot familie is dat de gewone mens genoeg heeft van joran en hem wel kan uitspugen, dit hadden ze niet voorzien. maar waait wel over.

een begin vraag , waarom is joran nooit verhoord op 31 mei 2005 ?? of mis ik deze statement in het lijstje

Your right on the money..The beach story is fiction. Beth Holloway on the 31st when she met with Dennis Jacobs spotted Deepak's car already at the Bubali Police station. Deepak also slipped that he met with the ALE on the 30th as well. When she first talked to Dennis Jacobs she saw a torn PV with Jorans name on it in his office. I am pretty sure they met with the ALE on the 30th even before the Family arrived.


Beth Holloway - LOVING NATALEE - 05/31/05

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Jug, Jodi and I arrive at Bubali at eight o'clock sharp. One of the first things I notice is Deepak Kalpoe's silver-gray car parked in the back. It's definitely his. I spent a lot of time staring at it last night. The tag. The details. Not sure what to make of this, I mentally prepare myself for an encounter with Joran van der Sloot and Deepak Kalpoe inside the police station. And maybe I'll also get a look at the other guy, Satish. We proceed through the gravel and dirt parking lot and enter the front of the small, sea-foam green stucco building.

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MAY 30, 2005 "OFF THE RECORD" INTERROGATIONS?

Joran van der Sloot: On July 12, 2005 Anita Van der Sloot stated in a Joe Scarborough interview that Joran was picked up from school by police on Monday, May 30, 2005. Joran has never implied in interviews or declarations that he was ever picked up by police for questioning.

Anita Van der Sloot - 'Scarborough Country' - 07/12/05

ANITA VAN DER SLOOT: He hasn't told me anything, because, on the Monday, he went to school, like any normal boy. And he wasn't aware of—he was totally surprised when the police asked him to come to the—or picked him up for interrogation. He was totally surprised. He really thought that the girl would be safe in the hotel and there was no reason to talk about her at all.


Deepak Kalpoe: In his official statement of June 10, 2005 Deepak Kalpoe claims that he vacuumed his vehicle prior to picking up Joran Van der Sloot on Sunday May 29, 2005. He also states that he remembers telling interrogators at Bubali that his vehicle was very clean because he had vacuumed his car the prior evening. This would imply Deepak was questioned by police at Bubali station on May 30, 2005.


Deepak Kalpoe - Suspect Statement - 06/09/05

He then asked me whether I wanted to go with to "Carlos & Charlies", because he had met a few girls and wanted to meet them again in "Carlos & Charlies". I agreed and told him that I would pick him up later. A little before 23.00 hours I drove home. I ate something at home together with my brother Satish and after that I vacuumed the carpet on the inside of my car. After I finished vacuuming I went and took a shower. A little before 0.00 hours I drove to Joran's house. Joran lives on the address Montanja 19.

Deepak Kalpoe - Suspect Statement - 06/10/05

To your question whether I can remember the day when I was summoned to the police station at Bubali, I can say the following. Yes I remember that day. You are telling to me that my car looked very clean on that day. About that I can state the following, I had vacuumed my car the previous day.


Satish Kalpoe: On June 29, 2005 in a secretly recorded conversation in a police van, Satish Kalpoe conveys to Joran that he told police about the choller in his first police statement. Satish's witness statement of May 31, 2005 has been revealed and there is no mention of the choller. It can be assumed that the first statement Satish is referring to must have been taken on May 30, 2005.

Satish Kalpoe - Leaked Police Vehicle Recording - 06/29/05

Joran: (to Deepak) Then you're going to tell shit about the choller. I have helped you with that that shit of the choller friend.
Deepak: And, I also said that.
Joran: That I have not read. I have also read that statement.
Satish: That of the chollers was from me. I have already told that before. I have also said that in my first statement.





Beth Twitty
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct'
September 14, 2005

TWITTY: Well, Rita, like I said, we‘ve been worried as early as June 1 when we saw torn statements at a police station. We‘ve had falsified documents. I mean, we‘ve seen key elements omitted from uniformed police officers‘ statements. We‘ve had a D.E.A. whose statement was never taken.


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EARLY MORNING MEETING AT BUBALI ~ May 31st

Beth reveals in her book, Loving Natalee, that Deepak's vehicle was observed behind the Bubali police station at 8:00 AM on the morning of May 31, 2005, and remained there for the next several hours.

Beth Holloway - LOVING NATALEE - 05/31/05

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Jug, Jodi and I arrive at Bubali at eight o'clock sharp. One of the first things I notice is Deepak Kalpoe's silver-gray car parked in the back. It's definitely his. I spent a lot of time staring at it last night. The tag. The details. Not sure what to make of this, I mentally prepare myself for an encounter with Joran van der Sloot and Deepak Kalpoe inside the police station. And maybe I'll also get a look at the other guy, Satish. We proceed through the gravel and dirt parking lot and enter the front of the small, sea-foam green stucco building.

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ONE PERIOD IN TIME - FOUR DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS


1. Deepak Kalpoe

Deepak claims in his suspect statement of June 13, 2005 that after Paulus, Joran and he are dropped off at the VDS' by police in the early morning hours of May 31, 2005, there was a discussion with Paulus inside Joran's room. A short time later, he claims he drove straight home - arriving at approximately 6:45 AM.

Deepak Kalpoe - Suspect Statement - 06/13/05

The police officers drove from the Holiday Inn to Joran's house. The police had dropped us off at Joran's house.

We then went to Joran's room because Joran's dad wanted to talk to us so we sat down on the floor, because Joran's mattresses were on the floor in his room.

It was already about 06:10 hours, and I said that it really is late and that I had to go home. I got up and walked to the door.

I said my goodbyes and drove home. I went with my car and drove home via the road leading through Paradera. At approximately 06:45 hours, I got home.


2. Satish Kalpoe

Satish claims in his suspect statement of June 10, 2005 that when Deepak arrived home at 6:30 AM on the morning of May 31, 2005, Deepak conveyed that he had been at police station being questioned in regards to the disappearance of Natalee Holloway.

Satish Kalpoe - Suspect Statement - 06/10/05

How late did you wake up on Tuesday?

I had awoken at approximately 06.30 hours on Tuesday.

Was Deepak home at that time?

Deepak had just come home. I had asked Deepak where he had been. Deepak then told me he came from the police station. Deepak told me that he had to go to the police station because of the girl that had been with us on Sunday May 29th 2005.


3. Joran van der Sloot

Joran claims in his June 14, 2005 suspect statement that after the police dropped Paulus, Deepak and him off at home, the three had a discussion outside the residence and following the discussion Deepak went home. However, Deepak claims in his June 13, 2005 suspect statement that the discussion took place inside Joran's room.

Joran van der Sloot- Suspect Statement - 06/14/05

Deepak pointed out the spot were we dropped off Natalee.

At approximately 05.30 am, we went back to our house with the police.

When we arrived there I don't remember what was talked about outside. Deepak got into his car and drove off. My father and myself walked inside.


4. Paulus van der Sloot

Contrary to Joran and Deepak's claims, Paulus implies in his June 13, 2005 witness statement that only he and Joran were dropped off by the Police. Paulus fails to mention Deepak.

Paulus van der Sloot - Witness Statement - 06/18/05

We decided to go to the “Holiday Inn” to go and look for the girl, but without any positive result.

It was morning already when Joran and myself were dropped off by the police at home. We did not go to bed anymore.


CONCLUSION

Could the agenda for the early morning meeting at the Bubali police station on May 31, 2005 have been an opportunity for getting stories straight in preparation for the afternoon interrogations? Could it have been a regroup session after all that had taken place since the "off the record" meetings of the previous day, May 30 2005?


A POSSIBLE CHAIN OF EVENTS

When Beth's words in her book, Loving Natalee, are considered which claim Deepak's vehicle was observed behind the Bubali police station for several hours at 8:00 AM on the morning of Tuesday, May 31, 2005 as well as the contradicting statements of Joran, Deepak and Paulus - could the following chain of events reflect the movements of Paulus, Joran and Deepak immediately after the encounter with the Twitty group at the Holiday Inn?

1. Police drove Joran, Deepak and Paulus back to the VDS' residence from the Holiday Inn.

2. As his vehicle was parked at the VDS' residence, only Deepak would have gotten out of the police vehicle.

3. Police drove Joran and Paulus to the Bubali police station while Deepak drove his own vehicle.

4. Deepak, Joran and Paulus discussed the events of the preceding hours with Dennis Jacobs and/or Jan van der Straaten at the Bubali police station and attempted to get stories straight in preparation for the afternoon interrogations.

5. Deepak leaves his vehicle at the police station as a detailed cleaning of the interior is warranted.

6. Deepak is driven home by police following the meeting and informs Satish that he had been at the police station.

7. Joran and Paulus are then dropped off at home.

8. Beth leaves the Bubali station at approximately 12:30 pm, and notices Deepak's vehicle is still there.


* All suspects state they were not questioned until the afternoon hours of May 31, 2005, so what was Deepak's vehicle doing in the parking lot of the Bubali police station as early as 8:00 am?

* What logical reasons could there have been for Aruban law enforcement to have posession of Deepak's vehicle for several hours on May 31, 2005? Forensics were not done on the vehicle until June 9, 2005.

* At a minimum, Dennis jacobs and possibly Jan van der Straaten were doing something with Deepak's vehicle on May 31, 2005. Were they also conspiring with the four suspects on that morning?

* Exactly what was revealed by either Deepak's car, or the suspects themselves that forced Dennis Jacobs to turn Beth Holloway away that morning, without taking her statement?


Natalee and her family deserve justice, and we will not let up until they have it!

Natalee’s Freebirds
http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/

[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door observer777 op 19-02-2008 16:59:56 ]