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sluit deuren en ramen

benieuwd wat peter r. er van zegt.
misschien komt heeft ie nog wel iets achter de hand.
wat een gefuckte situatie.
Dostojewski: "Je kunt je niet van je eigen gezond verstand overtuigen door je buurman op te sluiten."
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Observer,
about he uncle of Joran on SM:

Out of my head:On his flickr account there is a picture of somebody at schiphol (I think?) who's pushing a card with bags and suitcases..is that the uncle?
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Je zou bijna denken dat ze het dichtgooien van de controle op schiphol-platform hebben geruild tegen Van Der Sloot.. krom gezegd:Ik heb Peter zijn uitzending, maar ik heb Stegeman's uitzending...1-1...remise!

[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door letsgetthiscasesolved op 15-02-2008 02:23:31 ]
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have a look here

Political parties and leaders:
Aliansa/Aruban Social Movement or MSA [Robert WEVER]; Aruban Liberal Organization or OLA [Glenbert CROES]; Aruban Patriotic Movement or MPA [Monica ARENDS-KOCK]; Aruban Patriotic Party or PPA [Benny NISBET]; Aruban People's Party or AVP [Mike EMAN]; People's Electoral Movement Party or MEP [Nelson O. ODUBER]; Real Democracy or PDR [Andin BIKKER]; RED [Rudy LAMPE]; Workers Political Platform or PTT [Gregorio WOLFF]
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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Op vrijdag 15 februari 2008 02:07 schreef letsgetthiscasesolved het volgende:
Observer,
about he uncle of Joran on SM:

Out of my head:On his flickr account there is a picture of somebody at schiphol (I think?) who's pushing a card with bags and suitcases..is that the uncle?
Not a clue,could be grampa..I always thought PVDS had 2 brothers one of them was in the Dutch Govt and the other a scientist or a proffesor but I am not sure at all. That blonde in the Amsterdam Airport with the VDS family looks just like the blonde with them when they were in NY.

I guess a travel companion that goes with the sloots on trips?







Paul Van Der Sloot Served
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBtg_e9Yy4g
"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
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A guy called Fr. on SM said: it's all about power...where did we see that before..in the drama/factual movie of Theo van Gogh 06/05...why are the dutch government/ministers/parlement members gonna vote for the JSF?
'well, they will'
'for money?'
'no..'
'but hen, for what, i don't have a clue why?'
'you won't believe it...'
....
'Power'
....
'gheez'
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Observer: Yep same girl, nice text at 0:18 LOL
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I guess you all heard the news..Joran will not be arrested I am not suprised just disgusted

Van der Sloot not to be arrested again.
Joran van der Sloot will not be arrested again for the disappearance of Natalee Holloway on Aruba. That is what his Dutch lawyer was told by the OM on Aruba.

The OM performed a new investigation after the show of Peter R. de Vries in which Van Der Sloot was filmed with a hidden camera. To an infiltrant he said that he was responsible for the disappearance of the American girl. Later he said he had made that up.

The OM does not see any grounds for a new arrest of Van der Sloot in the broadcasting and things that were stated afterwards.
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http://www.nos.nl/nos/art(...)1C86F632DF5E142.html
"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
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Op vrijdag 15 februari 2008 02:21 schreef johan555 het volgende:
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have a look here

Political parties and leaders:
Aliansa/Aruban Social Movement or MSA [Robert WEVER]; Aruban Liberal Organization or OLA [Glenbert CROES]; Aruban Patriotic Movement or MPA [Monica ARENDS-KOCK]; Aruban Patriotic Party or PPA [Benny NISBET]; Aruban People's Party or AVP [Mike EMAN]; People's Electoral Movement Party or MEP [Nelson O. ODUBER]; Real Democracy or PDR [Andin BIKKER]; RED [Rudy LAMPE]; Workers Political Platform or PTT [Gregorio WOLFF]
Hi Johan,I researched him as good as I could but could not find anymore info. I seem to remember I have more somewhere on his mom.

People at SM have looked into the crematorium and when you come on you should ask about it. Some rumors were that PVDS help bring it to Aruba from that Matthews company and sold to Yolanda Wever. I have never looked into it so I dont know what is true or not. I am just very suspicious over the death of Rene Van Heyningen who worked at Valero and PT at the hospital incinertaer. Rene was also found in this same cemetary as this post from RU today. But as you know most everything from that site is spin and misinformation. I give this post no credibility.


"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
  † In Memoriam † vrijdag 15 februari 2008 @ 02:51:41 #160
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Op vrijdag 15 februari 2008 02:36 schreef observer777 het volgende:


The OM does not see any grounds for a new arrest of Van der Sloot in the broadcasting and things that were stated afterwards.
Bizarre isn’t it? One can confess having thrown a girl, who has been missing for almost three years, having thrown a girl into the ocean, not knowing if she was alive or dead, and you still wont get arrested and brought in for questioning.

Makes you wonder what’s so special about Joran cause you can bet that if it where me or you, we would have been behind bars faster than you could say "protection".
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Well,, somebody knew upfront of this:

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Aruba Tourism Authority Names New Advertising Agency, Lowe New York
Category Business Date February 14th, 2008
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Ad Agency Review Results in Selection of New Firm Based in New York City with Clients Including, Unilever, Johnson & Johnson, Milk, XM Radio & More.

The Aruba Tourism Authority (ATA) has announced the appointment of a new advertising agency, Lowe New York. The exciting news came February 8, when, after six months of searching for an advertising agency, ATA appointed Lowe New York to head up all of Aruba’s advertising in North America. ATA began the government mandated advertising agency review in July 2007 with the assistance of 10 partners from the public and private sectors, and guidance from AAR Partners, a review specialist company. AAR Partners is a third-party, industry-recognized consultant that provided counsel and expertise in the agency selection. The process started with over 45 contending agencies and it was then narrowed to five exceptional firms from around the country. After months of chemistry meetings, work sessions, conference calls and presentations, the much anticipated final decision was announced. Lowe New York’s work with ATA officially starts April 1, 2008.

Underscoring the island’s commitment to continuous improvement, the government mandated review requires a periodic review of all agency partners to ensure the best service, value and fit with the marketing objectives, goals and core beliefs of ATA. This serves as a tool to examine ATA’s current capabilities and identify its emerging priorities. Lowe New York will now be charged to meet all of the goals of Aruba’s advertising including enhancing the brand of the island’s tourism sector, reaching its core audience, and meeting strategic business objectives. The main qualities for selecting a new agency were excellent strategic insights and thinking, the strong chemistry and fit with the Aruba team, thought-provoking ideas and a global perspective.

Four other impressive agencies made the final round, including Fort Lauderdale-based Zimmerman and Partners, New York’s Cossette Communication Group, Euro RSCG Worldwide, out of Baltimore and the incumbent Fitzgerald + CO, from Atlanta. ATA’s decision to go in another direction was not an easy one. Fitzgerald + CO has over 10 years of partnership and friendship invested in the island and is regarded as a highly creative partner that has, time and again, exemplified total dedication and commitment to the destination, regularly going above and beyond the call of duty. Fitzgerald + CO has created and launched various successful ad campaigns for Aruba over the last decade including the slogan “Where Happiness Lives,” the renowned “Charly from Aruba” radio spots and the most recent “Rumba Aruba” television ads.

“ATA is very much looking forward to the excitement of a fresh start and new beginning working with our new partners at Lowe New York,” said Myrna Jansen-Feliciano, managing director for the Aruba Tourism Authority. “The decision was a difficult one and all of the finalists were strong and creative firms vying for the business. We are confident that our detailed review process has brought us to the ideal candidate to handle our advertising in the U.S. and we are looking forward to a partnership with Lowe that will be successful and productive.”

Tomorrow:Balkenende ...Aruba is doing fine!
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Op vrijdag 15 februari 2008 02:51 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:

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Bizarre isn’t it? One can confess having thrown a girl, who has been missing for almost three years, having thrown a girl into the ocean, not knowing if she was alive or dead, and you still wont get arrested and brought in for questioning.

Makes you wonder what’s so special about Joran cause you can bet that if it where me or you, we would have been behind bars faster than you could say "protection".
Hi NS!

Yes..Very Bizarre but this case has been just outrageous for 32 months now. They do not want to prosecute or to let the truth be known. He has confessed now twice and all the answers are already known to people like Jan Van Der Straaten,Dennis Jacobs and Karen Janssen. It is not Joran that needs to be questioned in order to solve this case. IMO
"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
  † In Memoriam † vrijdag 15 februari 2008 @ 03:43:54 #163
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Op vrijdag 15 februari 2008 03:01 schreef observer777 het volgende:

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Hi NS!

Yes..Very Bizarre but this case has been just outrageous for 32 months now. They do not want to prosecute or to let the truth be known. He has confessed now twice and all the answers are already known to people like Jan Van Der Straaten,Dennis Jacobs and Karen Janssen. It is not Joran that needs to be questioned in order to solve this case. IMO
Yes, my guess is they dont know how to prosecute him without bringing a whole lot of other things into light. Things that certain people in key positions are desperately trying to keep hidden. Just like you say, its not about Joran anymore.

Joran will eventually be dealt with I'm sure, I feel less confident about the rest.
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Who did Anita get the tip from? And why did she say the girl had been found and why was it printed in the newspaper 3 days later that way?
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Saturday June 4th 2005 (Jorans Book)

On a certain moment the mobile phone of Joran's mother ringed. She
stood up and went outside.
After a while she came back and said that she had heard from a friend
that they had found the girl.
She asked Joran's father to call Van Der Straaten and verify this.
Joran's father called Van Der Straaten, but he did not answer his phone.

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Then we have this article that says Natalee was dead but later said the story was wrong it was a 16 year old boy who died drowning(seizure)not Natalee on the north shore. Error in reporting?
Kerwin Anthony Orville Goijla
13 Aug 1988 - 04 Jun 2005

http://www.mementomori.net/05139.html

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Front page SM
#2. I saw that stuff on Michelle-blogspot. That is just too weird. How did he die ?
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A confidential source came forward with some interesting information. The source specifically stated:
“There was a teenage boy, 17, who saw Joran and Natalee at the lighthouse that night. Joran paid this boy not to say anything. He has curly hair and dark skin.”
Kerwin Anthony Orville Goijla
13 Aug 1988 - 04 Jun 2005
After some research, you will see that this boy, aged 17, died 4 days after Natalee went missing. Age 17. Curly hair. Dark skin.
Coincidence? His cause of death has not been listed. Murder? Suicide? Accident? Did this young boy know something?
"I lied and that's the truth"--Joran Van Der Sloot--
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Joran will not be arrested I am not suprised just disgusted



Joran nu arresteren heeft totaal geen zin ,hij heeft nu een imago dat van super leugenaar .
Daar komt ie in principe overal mee weg,de ene keer verteld ie dit en de andere keer dat .
Of alles waar of onwaar is in de reportage van vd Vries doet er niet toe .
Er zal aanvullend bewijs moeten komen en of er moeten sporen gevonden worden .
Dat is ook na zo'n lange tijd nog mogelijk , vaak is de oplossing van zo'n zaak vrij simpel ,dan denk je achteraf oh jee daar had niemand aan gedacht .
Joran zal echter wel op z'n hoede zijn dus het wordt wel wat moeilijker .
Het hele onderzoek in het begin ( eerste maand ) vrij vreemd verlopen ,want waarom komt de politie pas na ( dagen bij Joran op bezoek ?
Volgens mij staat wel vast dat de mede scholieren van Natalee ondervraagd zijn over wat er die zondag avond is gebeurd .
Die hebben haar in de auto zien stappen bij de 3 jongens .
waarom heeft justitie zolang gewacht ?
Pa vd sloot hoorde maandag van de verdwijning ,dan ga je dat toch met je zoon bespreken en stuurt hem voor een verklaring naar de politie !!!
waarom mocht Joran de dagen na de verdwijning van z'n vader de deur niet uit ?
Hij had 9 dagen lang last van benen vertelde z'n vader in een verklaring .
Ook de rol van Freddy ZEDAN ben ik benieuwd naar en in z'n verklaring heeft vader het
steeds over Joran's lawyer .erg overdreven want als je zelf advocaat bent doe je dat zelf lijkt me .
bij het afleggen van verklaringen van joran zat ook niet die zogenaamde advocaat erbij maar de vader zelf !
(I asked Jan van der STRATEN if I could remain present when Joran was going to make his statement. He did not see a problem with that.)
ook over het casino spreekt de veder zichzelf tegen .
(During the break, at approximately 18.30 hours, I went back home.)
Later spreekt ie zichzelf weer tegen en zegt ie dat ie ook s avonds in het Casino was .
I also was in almost daily contact with Jan van der STRATEN zegt ie ook .
Is dat normaal dat een vader van de verdachte continu overleg heeft met justitie ?
Ik weet inmiddels dat joran hier ook meeleest en z'n familie ook ook hebben zich al wat mensen gemeld die evt fotomateriaal hebben van C&C en vind er momenteel onderzoek op zee plaats .
hoe het met het onderzoek naar die Lorenzo gaat hoor je ook niks van.
kortom er is nog wel wat te doen voordat de echte dader(s) gepakt kan worden ,wellicht met Harde bewijzen

[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door johan555 op 15-02-2008 10:51:42 ]
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
  vrijdag 15 februari 2008 @ 11:01:58 #166
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Mag ik vragen hoe je weet dat Joran hier nu meeleest en z'n familie?
Now you're talkin' Jackanese.
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dat heb ik gemerkt uit de reacties die ik krijg
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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Op vrijdag 15 februari 2008 02:51 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:

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Bizarre isn’t it? One can confess having thrown a girl, who has been missing for almost three years, having thrown a girl into the ocean, not knowing if she was alive or dead, and you still wont get arrested and brought in for questioning.
Show me the tape where Joran confessed he himself did this, and you`ll have enough proof to bring him in. I already told you to get your facts straights, you`re telling an obvious lie here.
  vrijdag 15 februari 2008 @ 11:44:32 #169
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Op vrijdag 15 februari 2008 11:30 schreef Scorpie het volgende:

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Show me the tape where Joran confessed he himself did this, and you`ll have enough proof to bring him in. I already told you to get your facts straights, you`re telling an obvious lie here.
These people don't know the difference between assuming something and that's what is actually said. They omly put things here to support theri own conspiracy theories. other things prdv en jvds have said, which reduce the meaning of their points are being ignored.

Still we havent 'got the answer to the question about the whereabouts of Natalee. Is she dead or alive?
  vrijdag 15 februari 2008 @ 11:46:39 #170
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Sea por favor apacible con mí.
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Op vrijdag 15 februari 2008 11:24 schreef johan555 het volgende:
dat heb ik gemerkt uit de reacties die ik krijg
Reacties van wie? Op wat? Waar?

Wees gewoon concreet aub, het hele verhaal is al vaag genoeg zonder de claims die je nu maakt.
Capa del satén blanco, Cuerpo del acero, Corazón del oro.
  † In Memoriam † vrijdag 15 februari 2008 @ 12:32:03 #171
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Op vrijdag 15 februari 2008 11:30 schreef Scorpie het volgende:

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Show me the tape where Joran confessed he himself did this, and you`ll have enough proof to bring him in. I already told you to get your facts straights, you`re telling an obvious lie here.
You told me something? O I'm sorry, I tend to ignore you I guess.

I'm sure you mean that according to Joran it was "Daury" who threw Natalee in the ocean, so technically he didn't do it. Thats not going to fly. He remains responsible for disposing of the body. Daury facilitated.
  vrijdag 15 februari 2008 @ 13:15:56 #172
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Maarreh zijn de speculaties nu voorbij? ik vind ze persoonlijk best wel ver gaan eigenlijk.. iets TE ver als je het mij vraagt. Zo kun je via internet wel allemaal connecties maken (het is een eiland, 'ons kent ons' dus de connecties zijn niet moeilijk te zoeken) en ze geven nooit ALLE details vrij dus volgens mij kan meer dan de helft van alle speculaties over cover-ups etc. al ontkracht worden als die details er wel waren.. ik denk namelijk niet dat ze alles vrijgegeven hebben wat er voor feiten zijn aangezien het nog steeds een zaak is ook al is er zo'n hype omheen.


johan555, welke reacties?
Now you're talkin' Jackanese.
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TE ver ? er komt vanalles aan het licht ! steeds meer zou ik zo zeggen wacht maar af !

[ Bericht 8% gewijzigd door johan555 op 15-02-2008 14:04:42 ]
Wanneer domme mensen domme dingen beweren, dan moet je ze niet corrigeren, maar glimlachend gelijk geven.
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Op vrijdag 15 februari 2008 12:32 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:

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You told me something? O I'm sorry, I tend to ignore you I guess.
Yes, you ignore any sign that does not fit your theory, I guess.
quote:
I'm sure you mean that according to Joran it was "Daury" who threw Natalee in the ocean, so technically he didn't do it. Thats not going to fly. He remains responsible for disposing of the body. Daury facilitated.
So, when he confessed he was there when Natalee died, you say he is telling the truth, but when he says he has nothing to do with her dissapearance, he is lying?
And no, he is not responsible for disposing the body, otherwise the OvJ would have ordered his arrest.
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Op vrijdag 15 februari 2008 13:47 schreef johan555 het volgende:
TE ver ? er komt vanalles aan het licht ! steeds meer zou ik zo zeggen wacht maar af !
Nou poeh poeh, wat komt er veel aan het licht zeg. Er worden connecties gemaakt die in elk normaal dorp in Nederland vanzelfsprekend zijn, en iedereen hier doet alsof het hele eiland een grote conspiracy verbergt
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