Maddy, the plot thickens.

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Maddie's parents seek charity's help

The parents of missing Madeleine McCann have visited Richmond to find out more about the work of a charity that helps locate missing people. Kate and Gerry McCann, whose four-year-old daughter was kidnapped from Praia da Luz, Portugal, on May 3 last year, met representatives from East Sheen-based charity Missing People and Missing Children Europe.

Ross Miller, of Missing People, said the McCanns wanted to find out more about the charity's role within Missing Children Europe, the European Federation for Missing and Sexually Exploited Children, and to hear about its work first hand. He said: "Kate and Gerry were very interested to learn more about our new research programme.

"This aims to fill gaps in the information currently available about the numbers of people going missing, why they go missing, their experiences while away and the impact on those left behind." On the same day, 302 days after Madeleine's abduction, Gerry wrote on his blog praising the work of the charity.

He said: "Missing People were responsible for displaying Madeleine's image on Marble Arch, along with two other missing children last summer. "It was heartening to hear today that one of those children was recovered as a direct result and the other has also been successfully returned to his family."

The Richmond Guardian also received reports that the couple visited the Depot restaurant, in Tideway Yard, Mortlake High Street, and were being filmed. However, staff at the restaurant remained tight-lipped about the couple's visit and refused to comment about the filming."

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Posted by: chriss on 8:04pm Tue 4 Mar 08
i hope this is a joke ,they left 3 babies on there own with the result that madeleine vanished, i hope no charity gives them the time of day

Posted by: Jennifer, Oakham on 8:11pm Tue 4 Mar 08
Is it April Fools day already:? These child neglectors visiting a childrens charity. Interesting, seeing as their fund was not set up as charity, but as a company which in turn has duped countless people.

Posted by: Loz, England on 8:12pm Tue 4 Mar 08
There is no evidence that Madeleine was 'kidnapped'. Her parents are official suspects (arguidos) in her disappearance and are being investigated by the Portuguese Police. The Missing People charity would do well to distance themselves from Mr and Mrs McCann who admit to leaving three children under the age of four alone in an unlocked apartment while they wined and dined at a considerable distance. The so-called 'recovered' child is in fact still living with the man for whom she left home. Perhaps facts should be checked by journalists prior to publication.

Posted by: LB, Birmingham. on 8:23pm Tue 4 Mar 08
That's one 'charity' that I shall make a point of NOT donating to! Having meetings with 2 self-confessed negligent 'parents' who are also OFFICIAL police suspects in the disappearance of their own daughter! And why does the article say Maddie was 'kidnapped'?? That is NOT what the investigating police force think! Maddie has 'disappeared'. The police are trying to find out what happened to her - and are being hampered by the McCanns non-co-operation!

Posted by: Christine, London on 8:30pm Tue 4 Mar 08
If these two child neglecters have got time for publicity stunts, they've got time to answer the 40 questions the Policia Judiciaria asked and they refused to answer before hotfooting it back to the UK and hiring a team of expensive lawyers! A team that includes General Pinochet's extradition lawyer. Who can forget Pinochet (at death's door, according to his lawyer) being wheeled off the plane and leaping out of his wheelchair as soon as he was on safe ground?!

Posted by: Jennifer, Oakham on 8:40pm Tue 4 Mar 08
And another thing. Did they also visit reputica which is on the same street. Who specialise in reputations management? Interesting. Was this childrens charity thing just a smokescreen for the real agenda?

Posted by: PatM, Warwick on 9:13pm Tue 4 Mar 08
Oh my goodness whatever next! Will they get a medal next,quickest way to lose a kid,go on holiday and bugger off and leave the kids! They are a disgrace!

Posted by: Maureen L., Merseyside on 9:28pm Tue 4 Mar 08
Like LB in Birmingham and I am sure, many countless others, I shall never donate to Missing People or Missing Children Europe because of their involvement with these poor excuses for parents Gerry and Kate McCann.

Posted by: SuziC, Bristol on 9:33pm Tue 4 Mar 08
Why are you reporting this as a "kidnapping"? As I understand it, the Portuguese Police have classed this as a "disappearance" due to the total lack of evidence to suggest an "abduction" or "kidnapping". Ian Mason, please use the correct terminology to avoid such misrepresentations of a case. Many thanks.

Posted by: maureen, Leeds on 9:45pm Tue 4 Mar 08
When will the media stop reporting about this vile couple, charity work indeed? this couple are the most selfish, self centered, greedy celebrity seeking media hungry vile couple, they do not do any thing for others(more so even their daughter) this is all a cover up of their real reason why they was there, this charity had better drop this couple like a hot brick, as it will have a damaging effect , to be linked any way to this couple of child neglecters (or even worse) hopefully we will find out soon as AT LAST the PJ are coming to interview them as well as their equally selfish friends and finally we will get JUSTICE FOR MADDIE!!!

Posted by: Muzzy, Warwick on 9:52pm Tue 4 Mar 08
What is Gerry McCann talking about? One of the three children whose image was projected onto Marble Arch has been, "recovered."? Well, it's not Madeleine he's talking about and it's not the boy. So, it must be Sammy Osborn and Sammy has not been, "recovered." Discovered maybe, but not reunited with her family. So, in what way has she been, "recovered."? Recovered from what? Certainly not from the place she disappeared to and is still living.

Posted by: Muzzy, Warwick on 9:57pm Tue 4 Mar 08
And Gerry, you could always ask that young girl's family if they think she's been, "recovered."

Posted by: Eddie Springer-Spaniel, pdl on 10:53pm Tue 4 Mar 08
[bold]Why can't the press see through this pair of murdering fools[/bold]

Posted by: k r, wandsworth on 10:59pm Tue 4 Mar 08
Until the truth is known about these prime suspects in the disappearance of thier own daughter, missing children's charities ought to keep thier distance I would have thought. Bad move for your donations, I reckon!

Posted by: Minger Ginge, The Beautiful South on 10:59pm Tue 4 Mar 08
Glad to see people are aware of the McScams machinations;it's just the media that like`to pretend all's fine...

Posted by: t g r, PARIS on 11:00pm Tue 4 Mar 08
Apparently the police are in the UK this week to re interview the charming couple.

Posted by: Kirsteen, Glasgow on 11:00pm Tue 4 Mar 08
This couple deliberately chose to go out every night socialising with their frinds, leaving 3 toddlers alone where they could neither be seen or heard and then called this 'responsible parenting' Any childrens charity associating itself with them should be banned. And tat's before we even consider the fact that the police named them the prime suspects in their daughter's disappearance. This whole thing is unbelievable.

Posted by: Sid, Bristol on 11:04pm Tue 4 Mar 08
very unpleasant pair. and as for that bizarre adman in the pink shirt? Crist only knows how its all going to pan out.

Posted by: patti on 11:04pm Tue 4 Mar 08
Madeleine went missing because these parents left 3 kids under 4 alone, night after night in a strange environment. I hope they contacted you for parental classes, something badly needed by them, considering they still deny their responsibility in that. I truly hope they will not be permitted to obfuscate their despicable role, that maybe even worse than "just" neglectful -ie being actively involved- by getting involved in ANY organization that works for/with children. It would make a mockery of child well being activities.

Posted by: Elvis, The Moon on 11:23pm Tue 4 Mar 08
Hey i've just spotted Maddy coming out of a chip shop on the moon. Report that. Idiot press.

Posted by: Cas, UK on 11:47pm Tue 4 Mar 08
Any charity that deals with the McCanns will not be getting any of my money. Tell the police what you have done with your daughter, how can you call yourself Catholics, and not allow her a place to rest in peace. I hope you rot in hell for what you have done, you are both liars and fraudently trying to con the world. WELL KATE AND GERRY WE DONT BELIEVE YOU ANY MORE. GAME OVER TELL THE TRUTH. have a little respect for your little girl, and respect for the twins, put an end to this charade.

Posted by: Issy, Manchester on 5:40am today
Gerry is heartened to hear that one of the other children was recovered as a direct result of the marble arch publicity.What a load of codswallop,she was found 6 months later,hardly a direct result.Get your facts right Gerry!

Posted by: ratonthebeam, Aberdeen, Scotland on 12:31pm today
Ahem. Should this not read, "Kate and Gerry McCann, whose four-year-old daughter was [italic]allegedly[/italic] kidnapped from Praia da Luz..." We've all had enough of the brainwashing and spin, thanks.

Posted by: Dearest, the netherlands on 12:48pm today
One suggestion to the McCanns, answer in all honestly the questions from the police, and also your Tapas friends. Clear things up, please!

Posted by: sheeple, UK on 12:50pm today
This can't be a genuine charity can it? Now way would any genuine charity be associated with the suspects in a vanished child case.

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Op woensdag 5 maart 2008 19:39 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Idd, snel quoten want er zijn er wel een paar best to the point, het is ook nog steed debiel dat zij als verdachten eeen child charity gaan bezoeken terwijl de ouders van andere vermiste kinderen het journaal niet eens halen.
[..] Whahahahahahahaha! Alle reacties zijn verdwenen....de mening van de lezer mag niet gelezen worden, maar het gaf goed aan hoe ook de Britten er over denken.

Ook al zou dat zo zijn, de McCanns zijn echt niet zo dom dat ze zelf daar naar binnen stappen of met de 'sniffers' gaan eten, daar hebben ze 'personeel' voor.
[..] Ik vind het te toevallig dat die sniffers én het restaurant in dezelfde straat zijn gehuisvest, mogelijk dat alleen Clarrie even bij die sniffers 'op de thee' is geweest....

Ik heb het idee dat dit soort dingen nooit echt zo naar voren waren gekomen als Maddy niet was verdwenen, wat ik wel naar vind om te zien is dat de nannies nu gedemoniseerd worden terwijl ze er niets maar dan ook niets mee te maken hadden, alles voor een rookgordijn blijkbaar. Inderdaad. Ik heb wel eerder misstanden gezien in crèches, ook in Nederland, maar dit heeft niets met de zaak Maddie te maken, zij en de twins zijn gewoon 's avonds alleen gelaten, punt uit.

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Op donderdag 6 maart 2008 10:55 schreef voyeur het volgende:
Ik heb eindelijk antwoord van Missing Children Europe over het vermeende ambassadeurschap van Kate. Laat niets te raden over lijkt me:

Dear Sir,

Apologies for the delay in coming back to you, due to the fact that I have been out of office last week.

Missing Children Europe has met informally with Kate and Gerry McCann, at the occasion of which the issues of concern for Missing Children Europe were discussed. The lunch refered to did however not take place.
Furthermore, the statement that Kate McCann would become an Ambassador for Missing Children Europe is also not true, and is as far as we are concerned purely a presupposition of certain newspapers.

I hope this clarifies the questions you had concerning this issue,

Best regards,<naam weggelaten, maar is de officiele woordvoerster>

Vinden ze op 3arguidos ook vast wel een leuk bericht. Suko?

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Leicestershire Detective Superintendent Stuart Prior returned from discussions with counterparts in Portugal today.

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Detectives have focused on the witness accounts given by the group, the so-called "Tapas Nine", to try to establish a timeline of events on that evening. Mr Prior flew to Portugal to discuss mutual legal assistance - the process where evidence is gathered in one country to help an investigation in another.

A Leicestershire police spokeswoman said: "Since Madeleine's disappearance, we, together with other law enforcement agencies, have been working closely with the Portuguese authorities. "Mr Prior has attended a series of meetings with his Portuguese counterparts. He travelled to Portugal on Tuesday and returned this morning.

"He went to discuss how the request for mutual legal assistance is to be executed and to seek clarification over elements of the request." The process itself could involve Portuguese police writing questions to be put to the friends on their behalf by their British counterparts. Officers involved in the investigation in the Algarve could still fly to Britain to sit in on the interviews, which are likely to be held at a location in Leicestershire.

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A Home Office spokeswoman said: "We have already confirmed that we have received a mutual legal assistance request from the Portuguese authorities in connection with the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. "We are currently awaiting clarification from the Portuguese authorities over elements of the request. "Home Office officials continue to work closely with the police to assist the Portuguese authorities with this investigation." Daily Mail

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"A Europe-wide missing-child alert system would have "without doubt" saved Madeleine McCann, an expert on child abduction said." Lady Catherine Meyer, who founded a charity to tackle child abduction, called for a single Europe-wide telephone number that parents could ring the moment their child went missing. The system, similar to the Amber Alert in the United States, would flash the child’s details up on television and motorway signs.

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Heartbroken mum Kate McCann quietly sobs as she speaks for the first time of her guilt about leaving little daughter Madeleine alone the night she was snatched. "I feel desperately sorry to her that we weren't there," she says."Every hour now, I still ask myself, 'Why did I think that was safe?' But it did feel safe and so right. I do feel regret. I've gone through all my life and said I never want to have any regrets, but you can't not regret something like that." Uit The Sun 5/08/2007

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McCann lawyers warn Express group Lawyers acting for Kate and Gerry McCann are considering taking legal action against Express Newspapers over what the couple claim to be a series of "wildly and grossly defamatory" articles about their missing daughter Madeleine.

The McCanns have made official complaints to Richard Desmond's newspaper group about its coverage in the Daily Express, Sunday Express, Daily Star and Daily Star Sunday through London law firm Carter Ruck, which specialises in high profile libel cases. They are thought to be particularly upset by the coverage in the Daily Express, which has splashed on a nearly daily basis on the Madeleine case with what they believe are increasingly lurid stories and headlines.

The McCanns' spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, confirmed that complaints had been made to the newspaper group. "Carter Ruck have been instructed to act on behalf of the McCanns to seek redress and discussions are ongoing, but beyond that it would be inappropriate to speculate on other courses of action," he said.

Adam Tudor, who is acting for the McCanns at Carter Ruck, added: "I and my firm have been instructed to bring complaints on their behalf and these complaints are ongoing." The McCanns' legal moves against Express Newspapers were reported by Private Eye this week, although Mitchell said the magazine's claim that the McCanns were seeking £4m in damages was "wildly speculative".

He added that any damages won would go back into the Find Madeleine fund, which currently stands at £544,000 - nearly half the £1.2m it started with. Mitchell said the McCanns were not targeting any one story in particular but were angry about a series of "wildly and grossly defamatory articles".

It is understood the McCanns are focussing on Express Newspapers as they believe its newspapers to be "amongst the worst offenders" and want a full apology and damages as well as costs. Under UK law, the McCanns and their lawyers have a year from the publication of an article to decide whether they wish to take legal action against its content.

It is thought that in the case of the coverage they are assessing, that year would be up some time in mid-May and a decision must be taken by then. Express Newspapers was contacted by MediaGuardian.co.uk but had not commented by the time of publication. The Guardian Zie ook Anorak voor meerdere artikelen hierover.

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Mari Luz found in Huelva
(Updated) The body found a few hours ago in the river is that of Mari Luz, the girl disappeared five years on January 13 last in the town of Huelva, confirmed the representative of the Spanish government subdelegation.

At the same time, Luis Molina, spokesman of the parents of the little Spanish, confirms "that there is 99% probability" that it is indeed the body of Mari Luz, despite the fact that parents' have not yet been allowed to proceed with its identification.

A source at the Spanish police confirmed that the body, wearing the same clothes that Mari Luz wearing on the day of his disappearance, was found in an advanced state of decomposition with a significant blow to the head, not be possible to determine in advance the conclusion of the autopsy, what would be the cause of death. The marine police has been alerted, around 18 hours, the crew of a merchant ship that had seen the corpse floating in the water.

After the death of Mari Luz, Pedro Rodriguez, the mayor of the Spanish city of Huelva, has decreed three days of official mourning, which will be performed from tomorrow. There will also tomorrow, a concentration of five minutes of silence at the gates of City Hall and the flags of all government buildings will be at half mast as a sign of mourning and respect for the family.

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Op zaterdag 8 maart 2008 00:02 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Hopelijk trekt haar vader weer van leer tegen deze aasgieren, dit is toch ongelofelijk, smerige lijkenpikkers.
Prayers and sympathie terwijl ze ik weet niet wat voor opsporingsmiddelen voor handen hadden, op de posters kon men niet eens op hetzelfde telefoonnummer bellen als voor Maddy, ziek, triest en heel heel laag.

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Op zaterdag 8 maart 2008 00:26 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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<knip<
Verschrikkelijk, nu kan iedereen hier weer overheen vallen en Clarrie heeft zijn zin weer, niemand denkt meer om de Tapas-bende en de rogatory letters.

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Dozens will be heard in England Dozens of people, among friends of McCann, tourists and former officials of the Ocean Club, in Praia da Luz, will be surveyed over the next few days in England.

According to information collected by PortugalDiário, the investigation was requested by the Portuguese authorities through letters rogatory and will be met by British police over the coming weeks.

Apart from interrogations, which should not include the couple McCann, it will still be complied with the search warrant, in order, inter alia, to the seizure of the diary of Kate McCann, the mother of the minor disappeared, May 3 last year, described the relationship with their children. The steps will be met by British authorities but count with the presence of Portuguese researchers.

"Testimonials divergent and collection of new information"

The eight friends of Kate and Gerry, who passed vacation in Praia da Luz, last May, and other British tourists who were, a pair of former officials of the venture will be reporting on steps aimed essentially determine possible different testimonies and gather new information.

Also according to information collected by PortugalDiário, the process simply no longer be covered by the secrecy of justice, after the full implementation of the investigation. It is recalled that at the beginning of the year, the prosecutor asked the investigating judge, and this granted, the extension of the secrecy of justice for a further three months. The prosecutor relied on the exceptional complexity of the case.

Abduction, murder and concealment of corpse

Under the law, after eight months on the formation of the first defendant in the case, the Portuguese-British Robert Murata (May 14), the prosecutor should file the case or inferred accusation. Do not having done until January 14, the prosecutor had to request the extension of the period for another three months.

This request of the prosecutor to prohibit the access of parties and the public to the proceeding may be postponed for a maximum period of three months, renewable once by [particularly in crimes against the life and liberty of the people], for a period objectively indispensable the conclusion of the investigation. It should be noted that throughout the process the thesis of abduction and murder and subsequent concealment of corpses have been addressed.

Besides Murat, also parents of Maddie, Kate and Gerry, consisted defendants in September, for suspected involvement in the disappearance of the minor. Madeleine McCann, four years old, disappeared May 3 to an apartment in a resort in Praia da Luz, while parents jantavam a restaurant, a few metres away. PortugalDiario

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Has the Express group done a deal with the McCanns? After pulling all the articles about the McCanns from their on-line Newspapers, we now know the McCanns and their Carter Ruck Lawyers were to sue the Express Newspapers for around £4m.

Clarence Mitchell said: "We are extremely unhappy with The Express Group's coverage. We always said it was the worst amongst all the tabloids."

Again I ask, it strikes me that the British press in general, like the Daily Mail, the Sun or the Mirror, have been publishing identical stories, many fed by Clarence Mitchell, sometimes copied from the Portuguese Press , so why are they going after the Express group in particular? Apparently, a deal was done, maybe some money was thrown in for no libel action and some exclusive McCann spin?

So, just like before when Mari Luz was reported to be missing, a connection was made to Madeleine's alleged kidnapping (a previously dismissed link by the Spanish Police). Today, the day that some respect should be given to the grieving family of Mari Luz Cortés, the Express reports about a dead girl, not even writing Mari Luz name, and a link to Madeleine."

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MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann and Shannon Matthews

DAILY RECORD: “Body In River Is Mari Luz”

Sad news. The picture of a girl. A girl not here.

THE body of a girl found in a river estuary in south-west Spain was identified last night as that of missing Mari Luz Cortes. Five-year-old Mari Luz vanished on January 13 after going to buy sweets from a stall only yards from her front door in Huelva.

The town is near the border with Portugal and less than two hours’ drive from where Madeleine McCann went missing.

Last night Madeleine’s parents Gerry and Kate sent a message of support to Mari Luz’s mother and father, Juan Jose Cortes, 34, a former professional footballer, and Irene Suarez.

Are the cases linked? Spain and Portugal. A body found. A child missing. Are the McCanns now nodding heads with whom the media consult and look to for an easy quote whenever a child goes missing; a child is killed; a child goes missing somewhere in the world?

THE SUN: “Mari Luz Cortes found in river”

The five-year-old’s parents feared she had been snatched like Madeleine McCann when she vanished on January 13. Last night Maddie’s parents Kate and Gerry were “extremely saddened”.

Who cannot be made sad by such grim news? Who in their right mind?

Huelva is less than two hours’ drive from Praia da Luz where Maddie, four, disappeared on holiday in Portugal last May. The McCanns, both 39, of Rothley, Leics, said their “thoughts and prayers” were with parents Juan Jose, 34, and Irene, who had been sure Mari was being held alive.

The McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: “They had developed a sense of unity with Mari Luz’s parents. Both families were going through similar agonies.”

Will the press now look for a new child to link Madeleine McCann to?

DAILY TELEGRAPH: “Spanish police find body of missing girl”

Her disappearance less than two hours drive from Praia da Luz in the Algarve had prompted police to investigate whether there was any link to the apparent abduction of Madeleine McCann.

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Op zaterdag 8 maart 2008 12:22 schreef milagro het volgende:
Dat bedoel ik idd, Suko, een artikel over Mari Luz, maar met Maddie, nee, sterker nog , Maddie's parents in de "heading" ....

dat je de McCanns, inclusief Maddie , in een laatste alinea noemt, begrijpelijk, maar om het zo te brengen, als ware het another blow voor de McCanns, is misselijkmakend.

die arme stakkers, alweer een mogelijk link getorpedeerd, alweer iets dat hen herinnert aan hun leed, verlies, en oh ja, Mari Luz is dood en oh ja , haar ouders rouwen

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Autopsy to be carried out on Mari Luz Cortés today
The body of the missing five year old was found on Friday afternoon, still wearing the same clothes as on the day she disapperared, 50 days ago. An autopsy is to be carried out today, Saturday, on the body of Mari Luz Cortés, the five year old from Huelva who went missing from her home in the El Torrejón area of the city on 13th January during a short trip to the local sweets kiosk, and whose body was found on Friday afternoon, floating in water in the Torrearenilla marshland, in a river close to the Cepsa refinery installations, by a person on board a passing merchant boat. It was brought to shore by the Maritime Guardia Civil.

Civil Guard sources have confirmed that the body was badly composed and was wearing the same clothes as on the day she disappeared fifty days earlier.As soon as news of the find was released the parents of Mari Luz, Juan José and Irene, rushed to the scene, while other local people from the district where she lived also went en masse to the family home to support the family. There were scenes of great pain and emotion as the tragic find was confirmed. The grandparents challenged the Guardia Civil at the scene for, as they put it, not searching the marshlands from the first day, as they claimed the family had called for insistently. After the body was identified by the family and the judge, the body was taken to the Huelva crematorium.

Reports indicate that the body showed a blow to the head, and had been in the water for some time. A full autopsy is to be carried out on Saturday to establish the cause of death. In the case that she was assassinated, DNA remains of her aggressor will be searched for. However it is also thought that the currents could have taken the body of the girl to where it was found from the drainage waterways from close to where she lived, raising the possibility that it could have been a tragic accident.

Huelva city hall has declared three days of mourning. City Mayor, Pedro Rodríguez, said it was a very sad day and that the worst possible outcome had been seen in the case. The family spokesman, Luis Molina, said that the family were ‘bad and destroyed’ by the news, and he calle don the press and the locals to ‘respect their pain’, and give them peace at such a dreadful time. Bron

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Op zaterdag 8 maart 2008 14:21 schreef voyeur het volgende:
Maar wanneer krijg ik nou eindelijk die Spaanse posters te zien dus dus al achterhaald zijn nu Mariluz gevonden is?

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Who paid for the Valentine's Day poster campaign in Spain?
We are led to believe Madeleine's Fund paid for these controversial posters, that included images of Mari Luz Cortes and Yeremi Vargas, but did they? The supposedly independent website 'Helping To Find Madeleine', which has organised, cult-like, teams and members working throughout Europe, reports the following:

"Helping To Find Madeleine (HTFM) is pleased to announce that it has undertaken a further mailing project to raise awareness of the disappearnace of Madeleine McCann, Yeremi Vargas and Mari Luiz Cortez throughout Spain and the Islands of Ceuta and Mellilla.

An estimated 17,400 letters in Spanish accompanied by 2 A3 colour posters depicting the missing children have been mailed to Banks and Building Societies, Schools and Colleges, Restaurants and Fast Food outlets, Post Offices, Ports and Marinas, Churches and Other Places of Worship, Supermarkets and Shopping Centres, Railway and Bus Stations, Garden Centres, Camp Sites, Leisure Facilities, Tourist attractions, Vets, Tobacconists, Bakers, Butchers and Grocers.

Gathering of addresses has been carried out by members of HTFM who volunteered their own time to work on this project, with printing and mailing costs kept to an absolute minimum due to the ongoing support of Paceprint, Crossflight and Swiss Post.

HTFM and the Madeleine McCann Campaign thanks these businesses, the people of Spain and Ceuta and Mellilla as well as everyone involved in this project for their ongoing support and commitment in helping to find these missing children."

- If HTFM were behind the poster campaign, what happened to the money the Fund was supposed to have paid out? Or did the Fund pay the money direct to HTFM?

On the FAQ page of the HTFM website, they question is posed: 'Is HTFM part of the Find Madeleine campaign'.

The answer given is:

'No, HTFM is a separate body, governed by its own members. We work independently of the main Find Madeleine campaign, and not FOR them.' Perhaps Clarence Mitchell would like to issue a statement to clarify the issue, bearing in mind he now appears to have become the spokesperson for Madeleine's Fund.

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They´re not the only ones to offer sympathy.

- Diddy, germany

They would try and hijack this piece of news wouldn't they?

- Alex, Dukinfield,UK

Oh for goodness sake, a little girl has been found dead and this story is all about the McCanns! This is so terribly wrong. Lets focus on the poor family of Mari, and Mari herself. We may never know what really happened to that poor little girl, or how she ended up where she did. Kate, Gerry and Clarence - take a back seat for once and let somebody else have the headlines.

- Jw, Hants

I don't think these two abduction cases are linked. If this were the case we should have found Madeleine by now.

- Anna, East Sussex

Must they get involved and stick their greedy beaks into everything? Let this family grieve, don't make it all about you.

- Hollie, Cardiff,Wales

Let this sad time be about Mari Luz and her family, and not about the McCanns. Show some respect.

- Elle, Leicestershire

I wish to send my deepest sympathies to the family and friends of this little angel. May she R.I.P.

- Susan, purley, surrey

This doesn't bode well for Madeleine McCann.

- Mistry, Warsash

What are you talking about? There is NO link between Mari Luz and Madeleine McCann.

- Ana, Sweden

My deepest condolences go out to the family.

- Alex, Australia

The McCanns never miss an opportunity to get their faces in the newspapers.

- Tony, Essex

Well the McCann's have tried hard enough to link the "abduction" of their daughter with the disappearance of Mari Luz. Hasn't worked though has it?

- Judith C, London

My thoughts and prayers got to the family of Mari - RIP little angel. A tragic outcome to a terrible case. And will the McCanns please allow the focus to be on this child and her family - its not about Madeleine, its about Mari. What a very beautiful child, so very sad.

- Anon, England

Indeed. If the McCanns wish to send their sympathy could it not be done privately. Why does the sad report about the finding of little Mari have to be mostly about the McCanns.

- Mary, Manchester

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Op zaterdag 8 maart 2008 13:51 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Ik denk dat de ouders van en eventueel volgend slachtoffer zich wel meteen gaan distancieren van de McCanns, het is nu algemeen bekend hoe ze met 'lotgenoten' omspringen.
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"The option that Mari Luz’s murderer or murderers could be from Huelva and, more probably, be individuals close to the Cortés family is being considered. The possibility that this death could be an act of revenge against the family has not yet been discarded. This is a potential option, given that various persons, whom the family had had problems with, had threatened them.

The Police hope that the autopsy will shed light on when and where her death occurred. The fact that the body was recognisable would tend not to lend weight to the option that Mari Luz spent fifty days in the water and allows for the supposition that the abductors did not kill her on 13th January."

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The journalists of Express Newspapers, the British media group that holds four tabloids, are forbidden to write about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. The editorial decision was made after the parents of the child that has been missing for almost a year announced that they are preparing to sue the publications over articles that they consider "defamatory and rude".

The prohibition affects all the newspapers of the group - Daily Express, Sunday Express, Daily Star and Daily Star Sunday - and left the reporters "furious".

They say that the McCanns feel "threatened because we do not only write what they want to see in print. We also cover the investigation by the Portuguese police", said a source within the group that was contacted by JN. "The only thing that we want now is that they are forced to respond before a court, under oath, about the disappearance of their daughter. Maybe then, the public will see the answers to some questions, namely what happened on the night of May 3", [the source] said.

Kate and Gerry McCann have decided to hire a reputable law firm in London, that is speacialised in defamation cases. They hope to receive 4 million pounds (over 5,5 million euros), an amount that the spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, assumes that will revert to the Find Madeleine fund. (vertaling the3arguidos)

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Op donderdag 13 maart 2008 12:32 schreef Hephaistos. het volgende:
Loopt dit topic nu nog steeds?


En dan ook nog in NWS! Schop het lekker naar BNW ofzo.

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Dear Kate and Gerry,

Firstly, hope you don't mind me calling you "Kate and Gerry". It seems a bit familiar; but Mr & Mrs McCann doesn't sound right at all; far too formal, and anyway, you're "Kate and Gerry", we all recognise you from your first names, like Phil and Fern, and Richard and Judy.

Anyway, Kate and Gerry, I understand that you're considerng legal action against a newspaper group, and the threat of this, is the reason why they removed all their articles about you. Really? Are you? Why would you feel the need to do this? Does it matter? If you're innocent, then why do this. A cynical person may be forgiven for thinking that it could be a deflection from the imminent police questioning.

Anyway, I just thought I'd let you know that I understand how you feel. As a mum of three, last year, I felt both outraged and offended when the tabloid newspapers all defended your actions, without question. I felt offended and affronted Kate & Gerry; that I was assumed, to be like you. Me and loads of other "normal" parents, were suddenly lumped together with you - in order to justify what you did. "It could have happened to anyone of us"...."there but for the Grace of God"...and "we all do it", screamed the headlines in your favour. But we don't Kate and Gerry, we simply don't. And, forgive me for saying so, but you contributed to this media attack on us "normal" parents, you said it was like dining in your own garden. Well, some garden you two must have, is all I can say.

So, now I feel its a little churlish of you, considering suing a media group, just because they printed comments you think are unfavourable. I'd have thought it would be like water off a ducks back - afterall, as you said Kate, "the worst has happened, nothing can hurt us anymore than that". But there you go. Perhaps you need the money.

See, if I was to explain, succinctly, to somebody who'd just returned from spending a year on another planet, what "the McCann thing" was about, I would say: "These two doctors, who the media call Kate and Gerry, (do give Kate & Gerry our love" gushed Philip Scofield to Clarence Mitchell), went on holiday to Portugal with a group of mates. They all left their kids, apparently repeatedly, in the evenings. Kate & Gerry's apartment was unlocked, situated on the ground floor, and near a road. One night their eldest daughter - not yet four - went missing. They said she'd been abducted, and set up a fund. The police made them Official Suspects in the ongoing investigation. They used some of the fund to pay their mortgage. Oh, and they have a Publicist, who used to work with the Government. Oh, and the McCanns know people on the fringes of the Government. And now whilst they are awaiting police requestioning, they are threatening to sue publications for printing stuff they don't like.

Looks a bit suss, doesn't it, Kate and Gerry? They way I've set it out. Just the bare facts.

But I'd like to point out that you're not celebrities. The only reason we know "Kate and Gerry" is through your neglect. So please, stop acting like celebrities, and forget about suing publications, and for once have a little pride, a little grace, and turn a blind eye to detrimental headlines.

After all, they're wrong, aren't they?

And one more thing, this isn't about you two. It never has been. Its about a little girl you let down. The two people in the world she trusted, let her down. Stop hiding behind lawyers and publicists and admit this simple fact.

Then you might, just might, like some of the headlines again.

Yours

A caring "normal" parent.

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"The couple's multi-millionaire backer, double glazing tycoon Brian Kennedy, will continue to pay Metodo's 3 £8,000-a-month fee on a rolling month-to-month basis. The Find Madeleine Fund will pick up the Barcelona-based firm's expenses, which have been averaging around £50,000 a month. Clarence Mitchell, spokesman for the McCanns, confirmed today: "Our relationship with Metodo 3 is continuing. "They are being kept on on a monthly retainer. "Brian Kennedy will continue to pay their fee of £8,000. "The Find Madeleine Fund will continue to pay their operating costs which have averaged about £50,000 a month up until now but have started to fall and will probably continue to do so as the number of leads they need to follow up drops off. Daily Mail

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Why would Método 3 (the ‘we’ll-have-her-home-by-Christmas’ Private Investigators) be interested in the reservoir when their employers, Gerry and Kate McCann, have stated that they consider Mr Corriea a "fantasist" who is seeking publicity and his dive search is distracting from the hunt? Not to mention the McCann source who said "There's no evidence Madeleine is in that reservoir. They [the McCanns] believe she is alive and are concentrating on finding her." 99% possibility they will find Madeleine in the reservoir? That’s a high percentage. Is it possible that the dive team have found something more tangible than several lengths of cord, some plastic tape and a single white, cotton sock but is not going public with it just yet? Curious."

(gaat al iets beter, pilletjes werken goed thx all)

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One of the detectives working for Method 3 would have paid witnesses who claimed to have seen Madeleine Morocco. The accusation was made by a source of security Moroccan, responsible for the examination of witnesses in the kingdom, and the working methods of Metodo 3 are criticised by the authorities.

The arrest, Antonio Jimenez, a private detectives serving McCann, accused of involvement in the theft of several hundred kilograms of cocaine and corrupting public officials, came deepened suspicions of the authorities on work of the agency. In the report for the hearing, a witness heard by the safety Moroccan admitted to having received several thousand euros from the Spanish detective who had asked him to keep the secret deal "to not affect the investigation."

Antonio Jimenez, former Chief Inspector of the Unit for Drugs and Organized Crime (Udyco) by the police in Barcelona, was the man confidence Francisco Marco, the director of M3, Morocco. He was the one who "found" several witnesses who claimed to have seen Madeleine in the north. The man even led to several British journalists to witness the encounter.

According to the same source, the payment of money could have been done without the knowledge of Gerry and Kate McCann, what pushing investigators to believe that the detective had acted with the intent to allow the agency Barcelona "score points" with public opinion and keep together for longer, the contract with the parents of Madeleine, their biggest customer right now.

"We were able to determine, with what the witness told us and the information we received from Spain, as Madeleine's parents have not asked the detective to do so," said the head of the Moroccan security, adding "it is not excluded that the detective agency can be solely responsible for such acts."

Already in November 2007, on the sidelines of the assembly 76éme-General of Interpol, in Marrakech, the Minister of Internal Affairs of Morocco, Chakib Benmoussa said "there was no reason to believe that the small Madeleine McCann can be in Morocco ", a view confirmed by the investigators on the ground.

Several votes associated with the Portuguese and British police have been raised on several occasions to criticize the work of Method 3. Such is the case with Mark Williams-Thomas, British and criminal expert in the area of protection of children, for whom the runway invoked by Metodo 3 of that Madeleine was allegedly abducted, commissioned by a pedophile network and transported to Morocco , "demonstrates a lack of knowledge of paedophiles and how they work."

Since the demise of Madeleine McCann, May 3, 2007, dozens of witnesses claimed to have seen the little British, but it was after the commitment of Metodo 3 that the testimonies in the media have become more regular, indicating whenever a track to Morocco without the detective agency can, to this day, make a shred of evidence.

Marco Francisco, the high-profile director of Metodo 3, had appeared with the promise that the girl would be found before the end of a six-month contract with Kate and Gerry McCann. Francisco claimed even know the identity of the perpetrators of the abduction and Madeleine would be from the parents for Christmas.

This is not the first time that members of M3 are involved. In the past, five members of the agency in Barcelona had already been arrested by police in a dark story ecoutes illegal and corruption, including Marco Francisco, his mother, Maria Fernandez Lado, his father, Marco Poyuelo Francisco, Francisco Fernandez brother Gabriel Lado, and an employee, Oscar Trujillo.

"All means are good"

Clarence Mitchell, questioned about the accusations made at Metodo 3, begins by affirming "that do not know," and that it "is unable to make a comment," but he quickly resumed his role Head Communication and relativizes stating that "all means are good" for investigations of private detectives: "It is possible that during the investigation they were able to pay for information," admitted the head communication service of McCann.

Method 3, Clarence Mitchell says, "keep the trust of those who pay their fees because they find that they can demonstrate their commitment to find Madeleine."

"The patrons are happy with their work on the ground ... the times they were able to track down the… alerts quickly, in some cases within three hours and they were simply faster, much faster or Interpol police services in the countries where they operate and thus patrons qu''ils think are doing a good job, "says Clarence adding" of course, they have yet to find Madeleine, but the police either. We know that M3 works well, they do not need to prove it, "concluded Clarence Mitchell.

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"It seems the Mirror's report ( McCanns dive fury ) may not be without some spin. According to the Portugal Online Resident, Metodo 3 are involved and the McCanns apparent fury reported by the British press is false. Confusing to say the least."

The Portugal Online Resident reports:
ANYTHING FOUND as a result of the searches being carried out by divers at the Arade dam near Silves will be given to Método 3, the Spanish private investigating company hired by the McCann family to help find Madeleine. In response to a report printed in the British press, saying that Gerry and Kate McCann were not happy with this private operation, Marcos Aragão Correia told The Resident that “a contact was made with Metodo 3 to clarify that information and we can say it is false”. He also said that “the family is not sponsoring the diving because they believe Madeleine is alive, but we are receiving support from Metodo 3, which means they are aware of everything”

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"The money allowed the lawyer to pay the diving team that had already been at the dam in January. Operations had been suspended after only four days, for lack of funding. In the email that he sends to companies, the lawyer presents himself as "the son of one of the major personalities of insular and national culture" and guarantees he has "sponsored the defense of several prominent cases", although he does not name a single example. He explains that on May 6 (three days after Madeleine disappeared) he received leads that the child had been abducted, raped and murdered, and her body had been thrown into a lake in the Algarve, which he himself concluded, "after thorough investigations" to be the Arade reservoir. JN knows that he contacted the police. "What he said was very vague and he never revealed his source, although we insisted on it several times. It was later discovered that his source was a medium, meaning it was not minimally credible", said a source that is connected to the investigation. During the seraches, ropes, a sock and a rock were found. Correia considers that they indicate the "presence of the body". He delivered them to the Spanish detective agency Método 3, which was hired by the McCann couple."

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 00:06 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Zou dit ook als sighting gezien kunnen worden Suko?

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Op zaterdag 15 maart 2008 10:54 schreef kahaarin het volgende:

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Tja het is nu eenmaal zo dat als er iets metkleine kinderen gebeurt het meestal met onachtzaamheid of opzet van mensen in haar/zijn omgeving te maken heeft, kinderen komen uit zichzelf nog niet echt ver dus is dat heel logisch.

Je wordt trouwens op je wenken bediend:
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http://www.wakefieldexpre(...)f--kidnap.3877777.jp

Met als verschil dat deze mum wel in het app was en er ook daadwerkelijk iets aan heeft gedaan.
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Idd, alleen gelaten of verdwenen onder de ogen van de ouders, dat is de overeenkomst, alle kinderen zijn als laatste gezien door ouders of naasten, heel logisch overigens, maar van dat pedo-ring verhaal blijft geen spaan heel zo.