[Centraal] Pro-Wrestling topic #23 The Party Is Over

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Keller: Today looking back at it, did Bret make too big of a deal out of it and Vince was totally within his right? Was it just two powerful people butting heads and the most powerful guy won? Or was Vince trying to screw Bret to get at him or Bischoff?

Nash: I always say this. When I watch the tape back, I always say to myself it's a f---in' work. There's no f---in' way that Vince McMahon would ever walk out of a room f---' selling. I've always said that as long as I live, to this day I will say, "It was a f---ing work!" I saw Vince McMahon with the federal government up his ass, with neck surgery walking to White Plains and basically doing a f---in' Gregory Hines tapdance through a television when everybody was wondering, "Are we getting shut down?" And Vince looked at us and did Mr. Bojangles and said, "No."

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Part III: Keller: When Hulk Hogan signed with WCW, did that reverberate within the WWF locker room that Hulk Hogan, WWF American Pie, is now with the competition? How did that shake out with the top guys?

Nash: You know, at that point we were so cocky. The thing is, I didn't have a long enough time to spend with Hulk during that first run. He was there only a couple of months and he was gone. It was one of those deals, you don't realize in this business, there's Hulk Hogan and then there's wrestling. You don't realize it. I remember when the NWO took off and we did all of our sh--. We did those black and white things. The original thing was, me and Scott did some soundbites and Hogan went 45 minutes nonstop. Me and Scott went holy f---! This guy is the great white. He's jaws. He will eat you alive if you're not prepared. Don't come into his domain. At the same time, we gave him no respect. I remember Hulk saying to me in the back of the plane once, "My whole career, all people have wanted to do was sit there and eat from the Hogan apple tree and let the golden apples fall into their hands. Hall and Nash come along and they want to take a chainsaw, cut the tree down, and take all the apples. You guys are too much." Sure, we didn't appreciate what he was, but at the same time, when we went back to New York, it was a completely different thing. When we went back to New York as the NWO, it was like the three of us versus the world. That night when he stood toe-to-toe against The Rock and the crowd went "Hogan," I bonered out so bad because I learned the hard way that Hogan is the f---in' man. There's Hulk Hogan and then there's everybody else. I will say it to this day. When it comes to pro wrestling, there's Hulk Hogan and then there's the next guy.

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Keller: You were watching this, and Nitro was still winning the ratings by a point or a point and a half, but you're watching it knowing this is without question way better than anything else right now.

Nash: The thing was, too, I told Eric (Bischoff) that when they did the WrestleMania and they brought (Mike) Tyson in and every match had a movie quality trailer that told the story from the last six or eight weeks of what the match was because Vince knew nobody was watching the show. I mean, that's when Kane was shooting lightning bolts out of his hands and catching people on fire. I watched that from my house that night and I called Eric up late after the show ended and I said, "Dude, we're in f---ing trouble." He said, "Awwww, f--- that." I said, "Watch WrestleMania. We're f---ed." Kevin Sullivan said [Nash imitating Sullivan]: "Brothah. Do you feel the wah-der? It's getting cold. It means we're about to hit an iceberg." Sullivan knew. Are you not watching the competition? We're about to f---in' sink. We're f---ed. These guys are off and running.

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Keller: Was there ever talk of Shawn Michaels jumping with you two, also?

Nash: Never. He was never, ever going to leave. To him, I'm a Yankee and I'm never leaving the Yankees. I think Taker actually changed his gimmick a little bit because he saw where the money was going. I think Taker knew that the dead guy character wasn't something he could take with him to WCW. It was the WWF's intellectual property. I'm not sure, I haven't talked to Mark (Callaway about it), but I think that's one reason why he changed his character so much.

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They said, "Hey, we really don't see anything for you wrestling-wise." I'm thinking, f---, as beat up as I am, I can outwork 90 percent of your f---in' crew just because I know how to work. I remember when they put me in that Hell in a Cell. Everybody was thinking I'd have a sh-- match. No, psychology still rules, you f---n' mark. I can't go out there and light myself on fire and do a huracanrana from a f---in' 40 foot balcony, but I can go out there and sell a f---in' hammer to my head. I can sell. I can get people to believe that what I'm doing is real. That's the f---in' key. Nobody believes the Chinese fire f---in' drill with all the tumblin' and all that sh--. I roll you and you roll me and roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll. Oh that's the finish, no this is the finish. Nobody f---in' buys that choreographed sh--. The closer it is to a bar fight, the more f---in' jokes Joe Schmo in the audience believes it's real. And that's just it. I've never been in a bar fight my entire life where I kicked somebody in the teeth, they went down, and punched them three times in the f---in' temple. I never thought at that point thought it was a good time to get on top of the bar and come off with something big. You know?

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Op donderdag 23 augustus 2007 03:01 schreef The-Brahma-Bull het volgende:

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Meisjes/wiggers/kleine kinderen blijven dat toch wel kopen lijkt mij. Of hij champ is of niet.

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Op donderdag 23 augustus 2007 14:30 schreef kidkash19 het volgende:
Ik zeg het je...Worstelen staat weer op het punt door te breken zoals in de Attitude periode, er zijn nog maar een paar aanpassinkjes nodig. Het is ongeveer 7 jaar geleden.....voor de Attitude periode duurde het ook ongeveer 7 jaar na de eerste mainstream doorbraak.

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Sydal is 24 years old and has been wrestling since 2000. He's billed as being 5-9, but he's actually about 5-6 or 5-7 legit and in the neighborhood of 175 pounds. A few months ago, before the Benoit/Steroids/Congress stuff hit, a memo was sent out to Johnny Ace to only sign people who were at least 6-0 and 240-250 pounds, so this likely acquisition drastically goes against what WWE is typically looking for in a wrestler because they hardly ever sign anybody under 6 feet tall, let alone someone who is 5-7. Back in May, WWE sent some scouts and set up a booth at a fitness expo in Las Vegas in hopes of signing some bodybuilders who didn't even need to have any wrestling experience to land a contract. What with the apparent signing of Sydal, and the possible returns of former WWE stars D-Lo Brown and Rosey -- who aren't bodybuilder types obviously -- it looks like WWE is finally changing their tune on the size requirements of the wrestlers they sign. In other words, they're not just looking at muscle-bound types anymore and are giving less-sculpted wrestlers at least an opportunity.

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Op vrijdag 24 augustus 2007 16:05 schreef kidkash19 het volgende:
welke spoilers? ik zie een spoilers als iets wat al gebeurt is en wat je misschien niet wilt weten (op maandag bv de resultaten van Summerslam) niet speculaties of komende matches

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Op zaterdag 25 augustus 2007 16:15 schreef BigFire het volgende:
ga zo naar Engeland.. kan Summerslam pas dinsdag ochtend zien
in ieder geval veel plezier er mee gaat een vette PPV worden


WWE Champion John Cena vs. Randy Orton
Triple H vs. King Booker
World Heavyweight Champion The Great Khali vs. Batista
Rey Mysterio vs. Chavo Guerrero
ECW Champion John Morrison vs. CM Punk
Umaga vs. Carlito vs. Mr. Kennedy
Kane vs. Finlay
Divas Battle Royal Maria of KellyKelly

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Op zaterdag 25 augustus 2007 16:17 schreef Wessiej het volgende:

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Als de uitslag hierboven ook komt, is dit de vetste ppv van dit jaar.