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* 11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.*
Je held is dood.quote:Op woensdag 18 juli 2007 03:04 schreef Quarks het volgende:
Kristie Lu Stout
BREAKING NEWS -- Brazilian politician Júlio César Redecker was reportedly on board of the TAM airliner that crashed in Sao Paulo (AP)
Brakke Babelfish vertaling:
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quote:JUST IN -- PSDB party says that one of its deputies, Júlio César Redecker, has been killed in the Sao Paulo plane crash. -- ALERT
Even uit bed om te kijken.
Zie je 200 doden.
Zie je 200 doden.
Ik noem een Tony van Heemschut,een Loeki Knol,een Brammetje Biesterveld en natuurlijk een Japie Stobbe !
TT weer aangepast, (Nederlanse Bron ingezet)
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Ik mis de ë.quote:Op woensdag 18 juli 2007 06:04 schreef Drugshond het volgende:
TT weer aangepast, (Nederlanse Bron ingezet)
Bestaan er geen richtlijnen over de lengte van de baan i.c.m. het toestel wat er moet landen?
Hoi.
Dat wordt per geval bepaald.quote:Op woensdag 18 juli 2007 06:15 schreef pekel het volgende:
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Ik mis de ë.
Bestaan er geen richtlijnen over de lengte van de baan i.c.m. het toestel wat er moet landen?
Eerder dit jaar zijn de regels voor Congonhas voor de grootste vliegtuigen nog aangepast precies vanwege dit probleem (van gladheid en doorschieten)
Fokkers and Boeings restricted at Congonhas Airport, Sao Paulo Brazil
The Federal Justice Ministry in Sao Paulo has determined that, from 0001hrs on February 8th, the Fokker F100, Boeing 737-700 and Boeing 737-800 will be banned from operating into Congonhas (CGH) during rain due to the risk of skidding on the runways. The judge, Ronald de Carvalho Filho, denied a motion by the Ministério Público Federal to close the runway completely during rain, but decided to restrict operations of those types. He also asked for more information about the 737-400 and may block that type too.
Mjah.. zo'n A320 is anders ook een behoorlijke jongen
http://us.airliners.net/photos/middle/9/6/3/0359369.jpg
Het verbaasd me niets, het rommelt al een tijdje in het braziliaanse vliegverkeer, er waren stakingen bij luchtverkeersleiders en een algehele chaos.
In Baden-Badener Badeseen kann man Baden-Badener baden sehen.
Die kans is nog steeds even groot. Echter de kans dat DAT vliegtuig nog een keer neerstort, is nihil...quote:Op woensdag 18 juli 2007 00:47 schreef LintuxCx het volgende:
Dan is statistisch gezien de kans dat er morgen een neerstort kleiner, en dat is mooi, want ik moet morgen vliegen.
Wat een ongeluk . Ben je blij dat je eindelijk geland bent, schiet je nog even 'vrolijk' door .... . En dan ook nog op een tankstation en het kantoor van de eigen maatschappij... Tering.
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Een A320 is een narrowbody, niet echt een joekel. Voor het landen op een natte baan zijn echt genoeg checklists en protocollen opgesteld. Het vliegtuig zelf heeft hoogstwaarschijnlijk ook een Anti-skid systeem. Ook hoort de omgeving van landingsbanen redelijk obstakelvrij te blijven.quote:Op woensdag 18 juli 2007 06:27 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:
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Dat wordt per geval bepaald.
Eerder dit jaar zijn de regels voor Congonhas voor de grootste vliegtuigen nog aangepast precies vanwege dit probleem (van gladheid en doorschieten)
Fokkers and Boeings restricted at Congonhas Airport, Sao Paulo Brazil
The Federal Justice Ministry in Sao Paulo has determined that, from 0001hrs on February 8th, the Fokker F100, Boeing 737-700 and Boeing 737-800 will be banned from operating into Congonhas (CGH) during rain due to the risk of skidding on the runways. The judge, Ronald de Carvalho Filho, denied a motion by the Ministério Público Federal to close the runway completely during rain, but decided to restrict operations of those types. He also asked for more information about the 737-400 and may block that type too.
Mjah.. zo'n A320 is anders ook een behoorlijke jongen
http://us.airliners.net/photos/middle/9/6/3/0359369.jpg
Zeer triest nieuws.
SAO PAULO, Brazil — A Brazilian airliner skidded off a slick runway, crossed a busy road and plowed into a gas station. All 176 people aboard were feared dead and an official said Wednesday that at least 15 others were killed on the ground. (Foxnews)
It was the second major air disaster in Brazil in a year and if the death toll from Tuesday's crash at Sao Paulo's domestic airport is confirmed it would be the worst in the nation's history.
The TAM airlines Airbus-32 en route from the southern Brazilian city of Porto Alegre crashed and burst into flames as it tried to land in driving rain. The official death toll stood at 40, but it was expected to rise sharply as rescue crews scoured the wreckage on Wednesday.
Sao Paulo state Gov. Jose Serra said the hopes of finding any of the 176 people aboard alive "are practically nil," since the temperature inside the plane reached 1,000 degrees (1,830 Fahrenheit).
A Sao Paulo public safety media official who could not give his name because of department policy said 25 charred bodies had been recovered so far and 15 others who were on the ground either died at the scene or in hospitals. Ten more people on ground were injured, he said.
President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva declared three days of national mourning. Presidential spokesman Marcelo Baumbach said no cause would be immediately released because it was premature to do so.
"His worries now are with the victims and the relatives of the victims. That is main concern," the spokesman said of Silva.
In September, a Gol Aerolinhas Inteligentes SA Boeing 737 and an executive jet collided over the Amazon rain forest. All 154 people on the passenger jet died. The executive jet landed safely in what had been Brazil's deadliest air disaster to date.
The runway at Sao Paulo's Congonhas airport has been repeatedly criticized for being too short, and two planes slipped off it in rainy weather just a day earlier, though no one was injured in either incident.
In June, airport authorities used heavy machinery to cut grooves the length of Congonhas airport's runway to channel off water when it rains in a bid to make it safer in a city with frequent tropical deluges. The airport is also closely ringed by densely populated neigbhorhoods.
Eyewitness Elias Rodrigues Jesus, a TAM worker, told The Associated Press he was walking near the site when he saw the jet explode in between a gas station and a Tam building.
"All of a sudden I heard a loud explosion, and the ground beneath my feet shook," Jesus said. "I looked up and I saw a huge ball of fire, and then I smelled the stench of kerosene and sulfur."
Tam Linhas Aereas flight 3054 was en route to Sao Paulo with 170 passengers and six crew members, the company said in a statement.
Congressman Julio Redecker was among those on the flight, but an aide did not know whether he was dead or injured.
The airline released an list of most of the people on the flight early Wednesday morning, but did not specify their nationalities.
"Tam expresses its most profound condolences to the relatives and friends of the passengers who were on flight 3054," the company said.
Before the list was released, Lamir Buzzanelli said his 41-year-old son, Claudemir, an engineer, had called him from Porto Alegre to say he was in the plane and about to return from a business trip.
"My hopes are not too high because I've been calling him on his cell phone, and all I get is his voice mail," Buzzanelli said, his eyes tearing up.
The accident happened during heavy rains, and critics have said for years that such an accident was possible at the airport because its runway is too short for large planes landing in rainy weather.
In 1996, a Tam airlines Fokker-100 skidded off the runway at Congonhas airport and down a street before erupting in a fireball. The crash killed all 96 people on board and three on the ground.
A federal court in February of this year briefly banned takeoffs and landings of three types of large jets at the airport because of safety concerns at Congonhas airport, which handles huge volumes of flights for the massive domestic Brazilian air travel market.
But an appeals court overruled the ban, saying it was too harsh because it would have severe economic ramifications, and that there were not enough safety concerns to prevent the planes from landing and taking off the airport.
On Monday, two smaller planes slipped off the airport's runway in rainy weather, but no one was injured.
But rain and the length of the runway shouldn't be immediately blamed for the crash, said William Voss, president and CEO of the Flight Safety Foundation in Arlington, Virginia.
He said the A320s were not covered under the judge's ban, and that the Tam jet was a relatively recent model.
"So there are no red flags coming up, it sounds like a straightforward runway overrun," Voss said.
It was the second major air disaster in Brazil in a year and if the death toll from Tuesday's crash at Sao Paulo's domestic airport is confirmed it would be the worst in the nation's history.
The TAM airlines Airbus-32 en route from the southern Brazilian city of Porto Alegre crashed and burst into flames as it tried to land in driving rain. The official death toll stood at 40, but it was expected to rise sharply as rescue crews scoured the wreckage on Wednesday.
Sao Paulo state Gov. Jose Serra said the hopes of finding any of the 176 people aboard alive "are practically nil," since the temperature inside the plane reached 1,000 degrees (1,830 Fahrenheit).
A Sao Paulo public safety media official who could not give his name because of department policy said 25 charred bodies had been recovered so far and 15 others who were on the ground either died at the scene or in hospitals. Ten more people on ground were injured, he said.
President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva declared three days of national mourning. Presidential spokesman Marcelo Baumbach said no cause would be immediately released because it was premature to do so.
"His worries now are with the victims and the relatives of the victims. That is main concern," the spokesman said of Silva.
In September, a Gol Aerolinhas Inteligentes SA Boeing 737 and an executive jet collided over the Amazon rain forest. All 154 people on the passenger jet died. The executive jet landed safely in what had been Brazil's deadliest air disaster to date.
The runway at Sao Paulo's Congonhas airport has been repeatedly criticized for being too short, and two planes slipped off it in rainy weather just a day earlier, though no one was injured in either incident.
In June, airport authorities used heavy machinery to cut grooves the length of Congonhas airport's runway to channel off water when it rains in a bid to make it safer in a city with frequent tropical deluges. The airport is also closely ringed by densely populated neigbhorhoods.
Eyewitness Elias Rodrigues Jesus, a TAM worker, told The Associated Press he was walking near the site when he saw the jet explode in between a gas station and a Tam building.
"All of a sudden I heard a loud explosion, and the ground beneath my feet shook," Jesus said. "I looked up and I saw a huge ball of fire, and then I smelled the stench of kerosene and sulfur."
Tam Linhas Aereas flight 3054 was en route to Sao Paulo with 170 passengers and six crew members, the company said in a statement.
Congressman Julio Redecker was among those on the flight, but an aide did not know whether he was dead or injured.
The airline released an list of most of the people on the flight early Wednesday morning, but did not specify their nationalities.
"Tam expresses its most profound condolences to the relatives and friends of the passengers who were on flight 3054," the company said.
Before the list was released, Lamir Buzzanelli said his 41-year-old son, Claudemir, an engineer, had called him from Porto Alegre to say he was in the plane and about to return from a business trip.
"My hopes are not too high because I've been calling him on his cell phone, and all I get is his voice mail," Buzzanelli said, his eyes tearing up.
The accident happened during heavy rains, and critics have said for years that such an accident was possible at the airport because its runway is too short for large planes landing in rainy weather.
In 1996, a Tam airlines Fokker-100 skidded off the runway at Congonhas airport and down a street before erupting in a fireball. The crash killed all 96 people on board and three on the ground.
A federal court in February of this year briefly banned takeoffs and landings of three types of large jets at the airport because of safety concerns at Congonhas airport, which handles huge volumes of flights for the massive domestic Brazilian air travel market.
But an appeals court overruled the ban, saying it was too harsh because it would have severe economic ramifications, and that there were not enough safety concerns to prevent the planes from landing and taking off the airport.
On Monday, two smaller planes slipped off the airport's runway in rainy weather, but no one was injured.
But rain and the length of the runway shouldn't be immediately blamed for the crash, said William Voss, president and CEO of the Flight Safety Foundation in Arlington, Virginia.
He said the A320s were not covered under the judge's ban, and that the Tam jet was a relatively recent model.
"So there are no red flags coming up, it sounds like a straightforward runway overrun," Voss said.
Kolere, van die fotos wordt je wel even stil
Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.
Would Sir care for a starter of some garlic bread perhaps?
No, thank you. I will proceed directly to the intravenous injection of hard drugs, please.
No, thank you. I will proceed directly to the intravenous injection of hard drugs, please.
met zo'n dichte bebouwing om het vliegveld heen was dit vroeg of laat natuurlijk onvermijdelijk.
❤ Rozen zijn rood ❤
❤ Viooltjes zijn blauw ❤
❤ Kristel, ik hou van jou! ❤
❤ Viooltjes zijn blauw ❤
❤ Kristel, ik hou van jou! ❤
lekkere dag gister zeg :
The aircraft [HK-4455] was landing in Santa Marta after a flight from Cali when it skidded off the runway, broke through the perimeter fence, and slid into the sea while landing in heavy rain. Six of the 54 aboard were injured, none seriously
The aircraft [HK-4455] was landing in Santa Marta after a flight from Cali when it skidded off the runway, broke through the perimeter fence, and slid into the sea while landing in heavy rain. Six of the 54 aboard were injured, none seriously
Would Sir care for a starter of some garlic bread perhaps?
No, thank you. I will proceed directly to the intravenous injection of hard drugs, please.
No, thank you. I will proceed directly to the intravenous injection of hard drugs, please.
En dan mag je nu als reddingswerker of familielid de lijken of datgene wat ervan over is gaan identificeren. Gatverdamme .
Zonder die dichte bebouwing zou er niks ernstigs gebeurd zijn.
❤ Rozen zijn rood ❤
❤ Viooltjes zijn blauw ❤
❤ Kristel, ik hou van jou! ❤
❤ Viooltjes zijn blauw ❤
❤ Kristel, ik hou van jou! ❤
Zoals gewoonlijk heeft Wikipedia alle informatie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TAM_Linhas_A%C3%A9reas_Flight_3054
* 11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.*
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Waarom had dat ding aan het eind van de baan nog steeds zoveel snelheid vraag ik me af... er is dan totaal niet geremt.
Waarom had dat ding aan het eind van de baan nog steeds zoveel snelheid vraag ik me af... er is dan totaal niet geremt.
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