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Het is heel simpel koningdavid :

De geschriften waar jij je religie op baseert draait het me voornamelijk om.

Je hangt een geloof aan waar o.a. Incest als iets positiefs wordt afgeschilderd, waar homo's allemaal dood moeten en complete uitmoording van gehele volkeren en verkrachting van vrouwen goede oplossingen zijn om lopende problemen mee te sussen.

Ik citeer bijvoorbeeld wat incest uit het Heilige Boek, Genesis, Chapter 19, Verses 30-38. (In Engels)

30. And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.

31. And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:

32. Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

33. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

34. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

35. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

36. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

Overigens is deze passage in veel uitgaven in andere talen wat 'gekuist' of zelfs helemaal herschreven.
Iets wat vaker gebeurt met zaken die in de originele bijbel wel heel erg onhandig geformuleerd waren, en met de groeiende moraal en ethiek in de maatschappij een groot probleem begonnen te vormen.

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Dat er mensen zijn die stemmetjes denken te horen in hun hoofd -dat moeten ze zelf weten, daar heb ik in principe geen last van. Dat soort collectieve schizofrenie kan ik me niet druk om maken.
Als dat soort mensen echter *mijn* wereld gaan beinvloeden op een vervelende manier, dan volgt logischerwijs een anti-reactie. En in mijn geval is dat fanatiek atheisme - ik zal actief naar manieren op zoek gaan om de leugen die geloof heet te ontkrachten als ik de kans krijg, en jonge mensen stimuleren om zelfstandiger naar de wereld te kijken dan de meeste gelovigen dat doen.

Waarom? Omdat ik me erger aan de indoctrinatie die plaatsvind in het incestieuze geloofswereldje..is het je wel eens op gevallen dat bijna iedereen die gelooft, het van zijn ouders heeft? Geloofs-overspringers zijn er ook hoor, bijv. van 't christendom naar het moslimgeloof is nu heel populair. Maar dat zijn insignificante aantallen. druppeltjes water in een oceaan.

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Waarom ben jij geen moslim? Geen boedhist? Geen hindoeïst? En waarom denk jij eigenlijk dat je zoveel beter bent dan je voorouders, die 2500 jaar geleden in natuurgoden geloofden ?

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Als je een klein beetje hebt opgelet in de geschiedenis en cultuurlessen dan weet je dat er honderden, duizenden geloven zijn. Sommigen lijken op elkaar (Joden, christenen, moslims), sommigen totaal niet.

Elk geloof veroordeelt niet of anders gelovigen op hun eigen manier - misschien realiseer je het niet, maar ik en jij gaan toch wel naar een hel, want ik kan nooit in alle geloven van de wereld tegelijk geloven! En bijna elk geloof zegt dat als je niet in dat geloof gelooft, dat je een ketter bent. (Volgens Katholieken ben ik overigens onwetend en kom ik dus als atheist sowieso in de hemel. Volgens Protestanten ben ik een ketter en ga ik naar de hel....fijne keus jongens!)

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Geloof is daarbij ook nog eens een zeer mode-gevoelig verschijnsel. In arme landen zijn er gek genoeg veel minder niet-gelovigen dan in westerse, rijke landen. De noodzaak tot geloven neemt af bij toenemende welvaart. Niet alleen dat, maar de vrije wil, de eigen keus wordt ook een optie die vaak in andere door gewoonte, religie/cultuur niet beschikbaar is. Je gelooft wat je ouders geloven en daarmee basta.

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Enfin, geloof als modeverschijnsel. Dat is het namelijk - of wil je zeggen dat de oorspronkelijke bewoners van nederland met hun natuurgoden, of de vikingen met hun thor, hun wodan, hun freija op de een of andere manier inferieur zijn aan jou ? Aan jouw manier van geloven ?

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Je deelt de menselijke genen die geloof als escapisme gebruiken ; een uitlaatklep voor het simpele aapbrein wat dusdanig intelligent werd dat het kon begrijpen, maar met dat toenemende begrip kwam vooral de angst over wat er nog niet begrepen werd. Geloof is een uitstekende en logische stap in het evolutionaire pad van de menselijke geest om zaken behapbaar te maken voor ons. Een aspect van de wereld om je heen niet begrijpen? Dan kan je er gewoon een bovennatuurlijke kracht of entiteit aan koppelen en je bent klaar.

Wist je dat bij kinderen dit gedrag ook is geconstateert? Soms raken kinderen op zeer jonge leeftijd afgezonderd van de bewoonde wereld. Het eerste wat ze gaan doen met hun pril opkomende bewustzijn (als ze weten te overleven natuurlijk) is het toekennen van onzichtbare entiteiten aan bepaalde veel voorkomende, belangrijke of bedreigende natuurlijke fenomenen.

Een entiteit die de zon beweegt, een entiteit die de golven laat bewegen, een entiteit die het weer controleert en voor geluk of pech zorgt. Het menselijk brein heeft in zich geprogrammeerd om zo te werken.

Het probleem is dat je dit niet lijkt te willen inzien. Dat je jezelf op de een of andere manier wijs hebt gemaakt dat het stemmetje wat je hoort een god is, een bovennatuurlijke kracht terwijl je gewoon met je onderbewustzijn zit te praten. Iets wat je hebt ontwikkeld in je jeugd en waar je niet meer vanaf komt...tsja. Het is ook als atheist enorm frustrerend om dagelijks met dit soort oergedrag geconfronteerd te worden, dat snap je hopelijk zelf nu ook wel.

Sterkte er mee ...

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Op donderdag 5 juli 2007 10:43 schreef Chowi het volgende:

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Echt zo mooi, "alle" atheïsten zijn "dom" en "alle" atheïsten hebben "lange tenen". Nee, hier bewijs je je eigen intelligentie heel erg mee. Bravo!

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Op donderdag 5 juli 2007 02:56 schreef OFfSprngr het volgende:

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"And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God..." (Deuteronomy 13: 5)

"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;" (Deuteronomy 13: 6)

"Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people." (Deuteronomy 13:8-9)

"Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword." (Deuteronomy 13:15)

JESUS ON FAMILY VALUES (part 12) - Luke 19:27 [In the words of a king in a parable.]
"But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them — bring them here and kill them in front of me."

GOD ON ABORTION AND KILLING BABIES - Hosea 13:16
... because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open.

MOSES ON KILLING WOMEN WHO COULD BE PREGNANT - Numbers 31:17
"And kill every woman who has slept with a man."

POLYGAMY (part 11) - Exodus 22:24
[God:] "My anger will be aroused, and I will kill you with the sword; your wives will become widows and your children fatherless."

CHILD ABUSE (part 2) - GOD KILLS - Genesis 38:7
But Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the LORD's sight; so the LORD put him to death.

CHILD ABUSE (part 16) - GOD WILL KILL THE CHILDREN OF SINNERS - Leviticus 26:21-22 (NLT)
"If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted."

CHILD ABUSE (part 17) - KILL SONS FOR THE SINS OF THEIR FATHERS - Isaiah 14:21
Prepare a place to slaughter his sons for the sins of their forefathers; they are not to rise to inherit the land and cover the earth with their cities.

WAR (part 6) - Numbers 31:7 (NIV)
They fought against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and killed every man.

MOSES AND WAR AND KILLING, VIRGINS AS SPOILS - Numbers 31:15-18 (NIV)
"Have you allowed all the women to live?" [Moses] asked them. "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

GOD KILLS (part 1) ALMOST EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING - Genesis 7:20-23
The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than twenty feet. Every living thing that moved on the earth perished -- birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out; men and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds of the air were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark.

GOD KILLS (part 2) FOR COITUS INTERRUPTUS - Genesis 38:9-10 (NIV)
But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so whenever he lay with his brother's wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother. What he did was wicked in the LORD's sight; so He put him to death also.

GOD KILLS BABIES AND MORE (part 3) - Exodus 12:29-30
At midnight the LORD struck down all the firstborn in Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn of the prisoner, who was in the dungeon, and the firstborn of all the livestock as well. Pharaoh and all his officials and all the Egyptians got up during the night, and there was loud wailing in Egypt, for there was not a house without someone dead.
[NOTE: There must have been no childless couples, neither of them firstborn, and living alone. Also, there are no historical records that the Egyptians ever had Jews as slaves.]

GOD KILLS (part 4) BY PROXY - Acts 12:23
And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the Glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.

GOD KILLS (part 5) BY PROXY - 1 Kings 15:28-30
Baasha killed Nadab in the third year of Asa king of Judah and succeeded him as king. As soon as he began to reign, he killed Jeroboam's whole family. He did not leave Jeroboam anyone that breathed, but destroyed them all, according to the word of the LORD given through his servant Ahijah the Shilonite - because of the sins Jeroboam had committed and had caused Israel to commit, and because he provoked the LORD, the God of Israel, to anger.

GOD KILLS (part 5) BY PROXY - 2 Kings 19:35 (NIV)
That night the angel of the LORD went out and put to death a hundred and eighty-five thousand men in the Assyrian camp. When the people got up the next morning—there were all the dead bodies!

GOD KILLS (part 6) - Jeremiah 25:33 (NLT)
In that day those the LORD has slaughtered will fill the earth from one end to the other. No one will mourn for them or gather up their bodies to bury them. They will be scattered like dung on the ground.

GOD KILLS (part 7) - Jeremiah 25:34-38 (NLT)
Weep and moan, you evil shepherds! Roll in the dust, you leaders of the flock! The time of your slaughter has arrived; you will fall and shatter like fragile pottery. You will find no place to hide; there will be no way to escape. Listen to the frantic cries of the shepherds, to the leaders of the flock shouting in despair, for the LORD is spoiling their pastures. Peaceful meadows will be turned into a wasteland by the LORD's fierce anger. He has left his den like a lion seeking its prey, and their land will be made desolate by the sword of the enemy and the LORD's fierce anger.

GOD KILLS (part 8) FOR COMPLAINING - Numbers 11:1
Now when the people complained, it displeased the Lord; for the Lord heard it, and His anger was aroused. So the fire of the Lord burned among them, and consumed some in the outskirts of the camp.

GOD KILLS (part 9) FOR HAVING TAKEN A CENSUS - 1 Chronicles 21:1,14 (NIV)
Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel. ... So the LORD sent a plague on Israel, and seventy thousand men of Israel fell dead.

GOD KILLS (part 10) FOR PROPHECY - Ezekiel 14:9
"And if the prophet is enticed to utter a prophecy, I the LORD have enticed that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand against him and destroy him from among my people Israel."

GOD KILLS (part 11) BY PROXY - A WHOLE FAMILY FOR THEFT - Joshua 7:24,25
Then Joshua, together with all Israel, took Achan son of Zerah, the silver, the robe, the gold wedge, his sons and daughters, his cattle, donkeys and sheep, his tent and all that he had, to the Valley of Achor. ... Then all Israel stoned him, and after they had stoned the rest [of his family], they burned them.

GOD WILL KILL AS PUNISHMENT (part 1) - Genesis 2:17 (KJV)
"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

GOD WILL KILL AS PUNISHMENT (part 2) - Exodus 22:22-24
"Do not take advantage of a widow or an orphan. If you do and they cry out to me, I will certainly hear their cry. My anger will be aroused, and I will kill you with the sword; your wives will become widows and your children fatherless."

GOD WILL KILL AS PUNISHMENT (part 3) - Job 4:8-9
As I have observed, those who plow evil and those who sow trouble reap it. At the breath of God they are destroyed; at the blast of his anger they perish.

GOD WILL KILL (part 4) - Zephaniah 1:2-3
"I will sweep away everything from the face of the earth," declares the LORD. "I will sweep away both men and animals; I will sweep away the birds of the air and the fish of the sea. The wicked will have only heaps of rubble when I cut off man from the face of the earth," declares the LORD.

GOD WILL KILL (part 5) FOR ARROGANCE AND PRIDE - Isaiah 13:11-12
"I will punish the world for its evil, the wicked for their sins. I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty and will humble the pride of the ruthless. I will make man scarcer than pure gold, more rare than the gold of Ophir."

GOD WILL KILL (part 6) BY PROXY - Revelation 9:15
And the four angels who had been kept ready for this very hour and day and month and year were released to kill a third of mankind.

GOD KILLED (part 7) BY PROXY - Revelation 9:18
A third of mankind was killed by the three plagues of fire, smoke and sulfur that came out of their mouths.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 4) KILL A STUBBORN AND REBELLIOUS SON - Deuteronomy 21:18-21
If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of the town. They shall say to the elders, 'This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard.' Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death...

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 5) KILL ANYONE WHO CURSES HIS PARENTS - Leviticus 20:9
For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother. His blood shall be upon him.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 6) KILL ADULTERERS - Leviticus 20:10
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife — with the wife of his neighbor — both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 7) KILL ADULTERERS - Leviticus 20:11
If a man sleeps with his father's wife, he has dishonored his father. Both the man and the woman must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 8) KILL ADULTERERS - Leviticus 20:12
If a man sleeps with his daughter-in-law, both of them must be put to death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their own heads.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 9) KILL MALE HOMOSEXUALS - Leviticus 20:13
If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 10) KILL SOME ADULTERERS - Leviticus 20:14
If a man marries both a woman and her mother, it is wicked. Both he and they must be burned in the fire, so that no wickedness will be among you.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 11) KILL FOR BEASTIALITY - Leviticus 20:15
If a man has sexual relations with an animal, he must be put to death, and you must kill the animal.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 12) KILL FOR BEASTIALITY - Leviticus 20:16
If a woman approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, kill both the woman and the animal. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 13) KILL PROSTITUTES - Leviticus 21:9
If a priest's daughter defiles herself by becoming a prostitute, she disgraces her father; she must be burned in the fire.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 14) KILL ANYONE WHO ATTACKS HIS PARENTS - Exodus 21:15
"Anyone who attacks his father or his mother must be put to death."

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 15) KILL ANYONE WHO CURSES HIS PARENTS - Exodus 21:17
"Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death."

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 16) KILL FAMILY OR FRIEND - Deuteronomy 13:6-9 (NIV)
If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 17) KILL AN ENTIRE TOWN - Deuteronomy 13:12-15 (NIV)
If you hear it said about one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you to live in that wicked men have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods you have not known), then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. Destroy it completely, both its people and its livestock.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 18) KILL WORSHIPPERS OF OTHER GODS - Exodus 22:20
Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 19) KILL WORSHIPPERS OF OTHER GODS - Exodus 32:27-29
Then [Moses] said to [the Levites], "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.' "The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died. Then Moses said, "You have been set apart to the LORD today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day."

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 20) KILL WORSHIPPERS OF OTHER GODS - Deuteronomy 14:6-10
“If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is of thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. Thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 21) KILL WORSHIPPERS OF OTHER GODS - Deuteronomy 17:2-5 (NIV)
If a man or woman living among you in one of the towns the LORD gives you is found doing evil in the eyes of the LORD your God in violation of his covenant, and contrary to my command has worshiped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars of the sky, and this has been brought to your attention, then you must investigate it thoroughly. If it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and stone that person to death.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 22) KILL THOSE WHO EAT BLOOD - Leviticus 7:27
If anyone eats blood, that person must be executed.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 23) KILL BLASPHEMERS - Leviticus 24:16
"Anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death."

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 24) KILL WITCHES - Leviticus 20:27
"A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads."

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 25) KILL WITCHES - Exodus 22:18
Do not allow a sorceress to live.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 26) KILL ANYONE WHO HAS SEX WITH ANIMALS - Exodus 22:19
"Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death."

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 27) KILL FALSE PROPHETS - Deuteronomy 13:5 (NIV)
The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 28) KILL FALSE PROPHETS - Deuteronomy 18:20 (NIV)
"But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die."

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 29) KILL FALSE PROPHETS - Zechariah 13:2,3 (NIV)
"I will remove both the prophets and the spirit of impurity from the land. And if anyone still prophesies, his father and mother, to whom he was born, will say to him, 'You must die, because you have told lies in the LORD's name.' When he prophesies, his own parents will stab him."

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 30) KILL SONS FOR THE SINS OF THEIR FOREFATHERS - Isaiah 14:21
Prepare a place to slaughter his sons for the sins of their forefathers; they are not to rise to inherit the land and cover the earth with their cities.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 31) KILL NON-VIRGIN BRIDES - Deuteronomy 22:20-21
If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl's virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father's house. You must purge the evil from among you.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 32) KILL MALE HOMOSEXUALS AND OTHERS FOR MANY REASONS - Romans 1:26-32 (KJV)
For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 33) KILL UNBELIEVERS - Acts 3:23
"And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear the prophet, shall be destroyed."

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 34) KILL UNBELIEVERS - 2 Chronicles 15:12-13 (NIV)
They entered into a covenant to seek the LORD, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul. All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 35) KILL THOSE DEVOTED TO DESTRUCTION - Leviticus 27:29
No person devoted to destruction may be ransomed; he must be put to death.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 36) KILL THOSE WITHOUT THE MARK - Ezekiel 9:5-7 (NLT)
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark.
Begin your task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the city and did as they were told."

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 37) KILL FOR GOD - Jeremiah 48:10 (NIV)
"Cursed be he who does the Lord's work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood."

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 38) KILL FOR WICKEDNESS, ETC. - Romans 1:29-32 (NIV)
"They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them."

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 39) KILL KIDNAPPERS - Deuteronomy 24:7 (NIV)
If a man is caught kidnapping one of his brother Israelites and treats him as a slave or sells him, the kidnapper must die. You must purge the evil from among you.

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 40) KILL MURDERERS - Exodus 21:12
"Whoever strikes a man so that he dies shall be put to death."

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 41) KILL MURDERERS - Leviticus 24:21
"He who kills a beast shall make it good; and he who kills a man shall be put to death."

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 42) KILL MURDERERS - Numbers 35:16-18
"But if he struck him down with an instrument of iron, so that he died, he is a murderer; the murderer shall be put to death. And if he struck him down with a stone in the hand, by which a man may die, and he died, he is a murderer; the murderer shall be put to death. Or if he struck him down with a weapon of wood in the hand, by which a man may die, and he died, he is a murderer; the murderer shall be put to death."

BIBLICAL DEATH PENALTY: (part 43) KILL MURDERERS - Numbers 35:20-21
"And if he stabbed him from hatred, or hurled at him, lying in wait, so that he died, or in enmity struck him down with his hand so that he died, then he who struck the blow shall be put to death; he is a murderer; the avenger of blood shall put the murderer to death, when he meets him."
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Op donderdag 5 juli 2007 11:24 schreef speknek het volgende:

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Dat strookt niet met je opmerking dat je door rede tot geloof bent gekomen.

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Op donderdag 5 juli 2007 11:38 schreef speknek het volgende:

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Ik kan me niet zo goed houden aan het gebod dat we geen kleding mogen dragen die uit twee verschillende stoffen is gefabriceerd (Lev 19:19), aangezien vrijwel al mijn kleding dat is. Moet ik nu naakt over straat? Maar dan ben ik onzedig en word ik zeker gestraft .

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Op donderdag 5 juli 2007 11:40 schreef speknek het volgende:
Het is schijnbaar cultureel bepaald waar je in gelooft. Als je in de god van de bijbel gelooft door middel van rede, dan zou je rationele argumenten moeten hebben waarom die ten alle tijden waarschijnlijker is dan de andere goden, niet vanwege regiospecifieke externe invloeden.

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Op donderdag 5 juli 2007 11:29 schreef Robar het volgende:

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Zo generaliseer jij de boel even zeg!
Ik ben atheist, maar je zult mij nooit respectloos horen praten over een ander en zijn of haar geloof, tenzij daar echt een goede reden voor is.