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  zondag 1 juli 2007 @ 20:25:33 #76
93076 BaajGuardian
De echte BG, die tof is.
pi_51036921
Jogy/iemand anders nog die dit volgt? het word steeds vreemder, ik kan weer wat lezen omdat ik even ergens anders op een pc zit, ik snap nogsteeds niet waarom ik er zelf niet op kan.
Vraag yvonne maar hoe tof ik ben, die gaf mij er ooit een tagje voor.
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Nog ff tussendoor ...
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1/7/07 Roswell aliens theory revived by deathbed confession

EXACTLY 60 years ago, a light aircraft was flying over the Cascade Mountains in Washington State, at a height of around 3000m.

Suddenly, a brilliant flash of light illuminated the aircraft.

Visibility was good and as pilot Kenneth Arnold scanned the sky to find the source of the light, he saw a group of nine shiny metallic objects flying information.

He estimated their speed as being around 2600km/h - nearly three times faster than the top speed of any jet aircraft at the time.

Soon, similar reports began to come in from all over America.

This wasn't just the world's first UFO sighting, this was the birth of a phenomenon, one that still exercises an extraordinary fascination.

Military authorities issued a press release, which began: "The many rumours regarding the flying disc became a reality yesterday when the intelligence officer of the 509th Bomb Group of the Eighth Air Force, Roswell Army Air Field, was fortunate enough to gain possession of a disc."

The headlines screamed: "Flying Disc captured by Air Force".

Yet, just 24 hours later, the military changed their story and claimed the object they'd first thought was a "flying disc" was a weather balloon that had crashed on a nearby ranch.

The key witness was Major Jesse Marcel, the intelligence officer who had gone to the ranch to recover the wreckage.

He described the metal as being wafer thin but incredibly tough.

It was as light as balsa wood, but couldn't be cut or burned.

These and similar accounts of the incident have largely been dismissed by all except the most dedicated believers.

Astonishing new twist

But last week came an astonishing new twist to the Roswell mystery.

Lieutenant Walter Haut was the public relations officer at the base in 1947 and was the man who issued the original and subsequent press releases after the crash on the orders of the base commander, Colonel William Blanchard.

Haut died last year but left a sworn affidavit to be opened only after his death.

Last week, the text was released and asserts that the weather balloon claim was a cover story and that the real object had been recovered by the military and stored in a hangar.

He described seeing not just the craft, but alien bodies.

He wasn't the first Roswell witness to talk about alien bodies.

Local undertaker Glenn Dennis had long claimed that he was contacted by authorities at Roswell shortly after the crash and asked to provide a number of child-sized coffins.

When he arrived at the base, he was apparently told by a nurse (who later disappeared) that a UFO had crashed and that small humanoid extraterrestrials had been recovered.

But Haut is the only one of the original participants to claim to have seen alien bodies.

UFO pieces handed around

Haut's affidavit talks about a high-level meeting he attended with base commander Col William Blanchard and the Commander of the Eighth Army Air Force, General Roger Ramey.

Haut states that at this meeting, pieces of wreckage were handed around for participants to touch, with nobody able to identify the material.

He says the press release was issued because locals were already aware of the crash site, but in fact there had been a second crash site, where more debris from the craft had fallen.

The plan was that an announcement acknowledging the first site, which had been discovered by a farmer, would divert attention from the second and more important location.

The clean-up operation

Haut also spoke about a clean-up operation, where for months afterwards military personnel scoured both crash sites searching for all remaining pieces of debris, removing them and erasing all signs that anything unusual had occurred.

This ties in with claims made by locals that debris collected as souvenirs was seized by the military.

Haut then tells how Colonel Blanchard took him to "Building 84" - one of the hangars at Roswell - and showed him the craft itself.

He describes a metallic egg-shaped object around 3.6m-4.5m in length and around 1.8m wide.

He said he saw no windows, wings, tail, landing gear or any other feature.

Haug 'saw the alien bodies'

He saw two bodies on the floor, partially covered by a tarpaulin.

They are described in his statement as about 1.2m tall, with disproportionately large heads.

Towards the end of the affidavit, Haut concludes: "I am convinced that what I personally observed was some kind of craft and its crew from outer space".

What's particularly interesting about Walter Haut is that in the many interviews he gave before his death, he played down his role and made no such claims.

Had he been seeking publicity, he would surely have spoken about the craft and the bodies.

Did he fear ridicule, or was the affidavit a sort of deathbed confession from someone who had been part of a cover-up, but who had stayed loyal to the end?

The US government came under huge pressure on Roswell in the '90s.

In July 1994, in response to an inquiry from the General Accounting Office, the Office of the Secretary of the Air Force published a report, The Roswell Report: Fact Versus Fiction In The New Mexico Desert.

Weather balloon 'cover story'

The report concluded that the Roswell incident had been attributable to something called Project Mogul, a top secret project using high-altitude balloons to carry sensor equipment into the upper atmosphere, listening forevidence of Soviet nuclear tests.

The statements concerning a crashed weather balloon had been a cover story, they admitted, but not to hide the truth about extraterrestrials.

A second US Air Force report concluded claims bodies were recovered were generated by people having seen crash test dummies that were dropped from the balloons.

Sceptics, of course, will dismiss the testimony left by Haut.

After all, fascinating though it is, it's just a story. There's no proof.

But if nothing else, this latest revelation shows that, 60 years on, this mystery endures.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21994224-2,00.html
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  maandag 2 juli 2007 @ 09:14:54 #78
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Op zondag 1 juli 2007 20:25 schreef BaajGuardian het volgende:
Jogy/iemand anders nog die dit volgt? het word steeds vreemder, ik kan weer wat lezen omdat ik even ergens anders op een pc zit, ik snap nogsteeds niet waarom ik er zelf niet op kan.
Gisteren nog even gekeken, blijkt tot rust te zijn gekomen al zijn de meeste nog wel overtuigd van het bizarre in de thread ( zoveel reacties, de hele rush erna, het rare laatste bericht etc. alleen is de rust dus wel wedergekeerd. Ik hou mijn oogjes iig open.
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  maandag 2 juli 2007 @ 14:18:50 #79
49558 1-of-6Billion
Up the shut fuck you must
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Puik topic.
Ik kom hier eind augustus bulderend van het lachen of in mijn broek schijtend van angst op terug.
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  dinsdag 3 juli 2007 @ 16:30:17 #80
60852 beschuit
wil weer verkiezingen
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tvp.... schpannend!!!
moest eigenlijk beschuitfluiter zijn, maarja, dat pastte niet...bastards!
www.prikstok.nl : Prikkelend Scherpzinnig!
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quote:
Op maandag 2 juli 2007 14:18 schreef 1-of-6Billion het volgende:
Puik topic.
Ik kom hier eind augustus bulderend van het lachen of in mijn broek schijtend van angst op terug.
Dat eerste is prima natuurlijk, maar nu je het weet.. waarom nog die angst?
Ware Wijsheid Liefdevolle Vrede
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  donderdag 5 juli 2007 @ 13:07:12 #82
49558 1-of-6Billion
Up the shut fuck you must
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quote:
Op woensdag 4 juli 2007 15:50 schreef Boswachtertje het volgende:

[..]

Dat eerste is prima natuurlijk, maar nu je het weet.. waarom nog die angst?
Wie weet heeftie toch gelijk
I follow you......but not on Twitter
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quote:
Op donderdag 5 juli 2007 13:07 schreef 1-of-6Billion het volgende:
Wie weet heeftie toch gelijk
Maar dan is er toch juist geen reden om angst te hebben? Je weet immers dat het opgezet spel is Sta er boven zou ik willen zeggen
Ware Wijsheid Liefdevolle Vrede
Peaceful Warrior "What are you?" "This Moment"
  zaterdag 21 juli 2007 @ 18:39:01 #84
34614 jogy
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  zondag 22 juli 2007 @ 10:48:12 #85
93076 BaajGuardian
De echte BG, die tof is.
pi_51712532
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Kon geen pics of fimpjes erover vinden.
Vraag yvonne maar hoe tof ik ben, die gaf mij er ooit een tagje voor.
  vrijdag 27 juli 2007 @ 17:32:29 #86
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Nog eentje: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=uDOOZ_IPb6Y Mexico is coming out the closet mensen.

http://forum.fok.nl/topic/1057085


Lamaar, uit 2004 .

[ Bericht 29% gewijzigd door jogy op 27-07-2007 17:54:29 ]
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  woensdag 14 november 2007 @ 22:18:11 #87
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Ehm. Die gozer zit nog best een beetje op schema denk ik, ietwat later dan geplanned maar zoveel nog niet eens heel belachelijkmakend nieuws over die cnn persconferentie is er nog nooit geweest over UFO's.
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  vrijdag 16 november 2007 @ 21:43:46 #89
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Bedankt, ik denk dat er toch wat interessante tijden komende zijn. for good or for worse maar uiteindelijk boeit dat niet.
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Volgens een NASA astronaut zijn ze hier al : http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread315558/pg1
  vrijdag 16 november 2007 @ 22:22:24 #91
34614 jogy
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quote:
Op vrijdag 16 november 2007 22:18 schreef WillemThe5th het volgende:
Volgens een NASA astronaut zijn ze hier al : http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread315558/pg1
Volgens genoeg onofficiele bronnen zijn ze er al duizenden jaren . Maar het valt wel op die subtiele shift in berichtgeving.
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  vrijdag 16 november 2007 @ 22:30:21 #93
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quote:
Op vrijdag 16 november 2007 22:23 schreef WillemThe5th het volgende:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZW2of08hBos LARRY KING over UFO's
Nu op CNN, live conferentie over UFO's ook gerelateerd aan dit verhaal.
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quote:
Op vrijdag 16 november 2007 22:22 schreef jogy het volgende:

[..]

Volgens genoeg onofficiele bronnen zijn ze er al duizenden jaren . Maar het valt wel op die subtiele shift in berichtgeving.
Precies!

5th night of de Galatic Cycle komt eraan, 19 november 2007, misschien heeft het daar wat mee te maken
  zondag 18 november 2007 @ 16:19:24 #95
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Stuiterdestuiter
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Tof topic, net helemaal gelezen
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  woensdag 16 januari 2008 @ 15:25:37 #96
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http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/01/23/airforce.ufo/index.html

UFOs? Nope. They were fighter jets, Air Force says
  donderdag 24 januari 2008 @ 15:40:10 #98
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quote:
Ontkennen dat er UFO's zijn is natuurlijk wel in tegenstelling met het bang maken waar in de OP over gerept wordt.
pi_56299344
Military's report of planes flying in area of UFO reports is fueling debate

" A bunch of stuff is bubbling up," he said about Wednesday's news release. "They may have to tell us the truth."
We must guard against the aquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex.
We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes.
Eisenhower1961.
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