Jay Leno stopt in 2009 met talkshow.

Goh, ik wist niet dat die show nog draaide...

Heb beide shows al jaren niet meer gezien. Heb altijd wel gelachen om Jay Leno, maar nog meer om Conan dus ik denk dat de Tonight Show er beter op zal worden.

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Op maandag 27 september 2004 22:52 schreef static het volgende:
Hij heeft zijn zakken toch flink gevuld.

Heeft ze ook nog een beetje geleegd met die garage vol met klassieke wagens en motors. Maar er kwam inderdaad veel binnen.

da's godverdomme nog vijf jaar, hij mag kan wel dood zijn tegen die tijd. anti-nieuws

Conan is heilig, maar hij gaat dan dus beide shows doen? Vind het jammer dat ik die allebei niet meer kan zien hier in Nederland...

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Op maandag 27 september 2004 23:13 schreef heiden6 het volgende:
Conan is heilig, maar hij gaat dan dus beide shows doen? Vind het jammer dat ik die allebei niet meer kan zien hier in Nederland...

jawel hoor.. schotel.

Ik ben eerder benieuwd naar de datum van Letterman?

Onzin om zulk soort dingen 5 jaar van tevoren te gaan plannen

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Op maandag 27 september 2004 23:13 schreef heiden6 het volgende:
Conan is heilig, maar hij gaat dan dus beide shows doen? Vind het jammer dat ik die allebei niet meer kan zien hier in Nederland...

Elke zaterdag- en zondagavond de gehele avond Conan en Jay op CNBC!

Ja, ik heb dus geen CNBC. In '98 keek ik het elke avond

Conan!

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[ Bericht 37% gewijzigd door Mike op 28-09-2004 10:34:06 ]

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Op dinsdag 28 september 2004 09:41 schreef MikeyMo het volgende:
Ja, ik heb dus geen CNBC. In '98 keek ik het elke avond

Precies ’98 is volgens mij ook zo’n beetje wanneer ik het voor het laatst zag. Daarna verdween de avond NBC van de buis hier, werd vervangen door NGC.

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Op dinsdag 28 september 2004 10:31 schreef Dada het volgende:

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Precies ’98 is volgens mij ook zo’n beetje wanneer ik het voor het laatst zag. Daarna verdween de avond NBC van de buis hier, werd vervangen door NGC.

ik heb mijn toevlucht gezocht tot de best of Triumph DVD

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Op dinsdag 28 september 2004 07:27 schreef Charro het volgende:
Elke zaterdag- en zondagavond de gehele avond Conan en Jay op CNBC!

Ik meen me te herinneren dat het vroeger bijna de gehele week door werd uitgezonden, of heb ik het mis? Dat is dus veranderd?

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Op dinsdag 28 september 2004 10:35 schreef MikeyMo het volgende:
ik heb mijn toevlucht gezocht tot de best of Triumph DVD

Waar heb jij die besteld?

Leno zelf:

"In 2009, I'll be 59 years old and will have had this dream job for 17 years. When I signed my new contract, I felt that the timing was right to plan for my successor and there is no one more qualified than Conan. Plus, I promised (my wife) Mavis I would take her out for dinner before I turned 60." O'Brien was once a writer on hit cartoon series The Simpsons.

Kan hij eindelijk met zijn auto's gaan rijden. (Waar hij trouwens 4 mensen in vaste dienst voor heeft om ze te onderhouden).

HEEEEEEEERE'S CONAN!

Leno to pass 'Tonight' torch to O'Brien in '09

BY MARISA GUTHRIE
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER


Conan O'Brien gets the call after 11 years of 'Late Night.'

Jay Leno, who inherited "The Tonight Show" chair from Johnny Carson in 1992, is leaving the post he spent years lobbying to get.
But not until 2009.

Leno will walk away from the show, which he landed despite Carson's strong preference for David Letterman, and turn it over to Conan O'Brien. The comedian has been hosting "Late Night With Conan O'Brien," which airs in NBC's 12:30 a.m. slot, for 11 years.

"In 2009, I'll be 59 years old and will have had this dream job for 17 years," Leno said in a statement. "When I signed my new contract, I felt that the timing was right to plan for my successor, and there is no one more qualified than Conan. Plus, I promised [my wife] Mavis I would take her out for dinner before I turned 60."

O'Brien, whose current contract with NBC was up in December 2005, yesterday signed a new long-term deal with the network that will keep him on "Late Night" until '09, when he takes over from Leno.

The announcement coincided with "The Tonight Show's" 50th-anniversary celebration.

There is speculation within the industry that Leno, despite being the consistent ratings winner in the time slot, is being forced out so that NBC can hang onto O'Brien.

O'Brien made no secret of his restlessness in the 12:30 time slot earlier this year when NBC announced it had extended Leno's contract to '09.

O'Brien's tenure at NBC took on more urgency when CBS' Craig Kilborn abruptly left "The Late Late Show" last month. CBS is currently making do with a revolving roster of substitute hosts while hunting, albeit slowly, a permanent replacement for Kilborn. "'The Tonight Show' is one of the great franchises in television and I am thrilled to get this opportunity," O'Brien said in a statement. "I am thankful to everyone at NBC . . . and I am particularly grateful to Jay for all the generous support and kindness he has always shown me."

NBC's announcement came as a surprise to many television insiders.

"Jay gets no respect in the industry," said one source who expressed "shock" that Leno would choose to retire when he will only be 59.

"I think they put a foot on [Jay's] a--," the source said. "I think there is a desire within NBC to refresh ["The Tonight Show"] brand."

NBC's venerable franchise has suffered a slight dip in the ratings so far this season. Last week, "The Tonight Show" posted its worst premiere-week numbers in four years, according to Nielsen Media Research.

Meanwhile, the "Late Show With David Letterman" had its most-watched premiere week since 2001, when New York was catapulted onto the national radar after the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center.

September 28, 2004

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Op dinsdag 28 september 2004 10:38 schreef Dada het volgende:

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Ik meen me te herinneren dat het vroeger bijna de gehele week door werd uitgezonden, of heb ik het mis? Dat is dus veranderd?

Geloof het wel ja. Zie het door de weeks in ieder geval nooit langskomen. Kijk het zelf vaak op zondagavond en af en toe ook eens op zaterdag. Vooral die foutjes in de krant bij Leno vind ik echt geweldig

Haha "z'n vertrek bekend gemaakt".

Oke dan maak ik bij deze bekend dat ik in 2010 stop met Fokken!

(C)NBC zit hier niet op de kabel, en een schotel is geen optie. Jammer, maar helaas. Af en toe downloaden met Bittorrent wel overigens, maar dat is toch anders.

Letterman vind ik ook leuker dan Leno. Het wordt echt tijd dat die shows hier in Nederland gewoon weer eens op de buis komen. Die shows zijn veel leuker dan het meeste van wat er hier wordt uitgezonden.

Tuesday, September 28, 2004

Why Conan for Jay? And why announce it so early?

By Tim Goodman / San Francisco Chronicle

Somewhere, Carnac the Magnificent is stumped. Conan O’Brien -- “Tonight Show” host?

NBC’s announcement on Monday that “Tonight Show” host Jay Leno will retire in five years and be replaced by “Late Night” host O’Brien says more about the latter than the former, but almost nothing about the logic behind the move.

When you make public a personnel decision that doesn’t take place until 2009, chances are there’s something more going on behind the scenes. And there’s certainly been intense industry speculation that CBS, which just lost Craig Kilborn, host of “The Late, Late Show,” would make a play for O’Brien, with the promise that he would succeed David Letterman.

By stepping in and signing O’Brien, who had less than a year left on his contract, NBC has silenced those rumors and set up an orderly transition, but the decision is sure to get heads scratching in Hollywood.

First: O’Brien? Really? Secondly, is Leno going willingly? None of this seems logical.

After all, Leno campaigned hard to succeed Johnny Carson in television’s most prestigious talk-show-host gig and proved, by beating back Letterman, that NBC wanted to be safe, not sorry. Leno, with his please-everybody innocuousness, was just the kind of cheery presence who could send America to bed at night without challenging its senses with irony or wink-wink stupidity -- the hallmarks of Letterman’s humor.

Unless O’Brien spends the next five years seriously rewiring his comic sensibilities, he’s going to give NBC the kind of right angles it willingly avoided all those years ago. O’Brien brought quirkiness, silliness and broad strangeness to “Late Night” and deserves credit for surviving the disastrous, critically reviled early days where everyone outside of his immediate family thought the idea of a nobody taking over for Letterman was a terrible idea.

Not only did O’Brien survive the relentless second-guessing of NBC management -- he has joked that his contract was renewed in weeks, not years -- but his aggressive, irony-fueled bits eventually hooked the college crowd and not only made for late night’s best and most under-appreciated viewing, but solidified O’Brien as a star.

And yet, despite his endurance and solid ratings, O’Brien is still very much a mystery to mainstream America. No doubt there are people who have never seen him. And there are still people who remember him only as that guy with the funny name who came out of nowhere to replace Letterman.

O’Brien in Carson’s chair? Yes, technically it’s Leno’s chair. And leaving out any snide comments about “Leno’s legacy,” how will O’Brien’s personality mesh with the promote-not-provoke stylings of Leno? By the time Leno steps down -- one would assume he’s not going to stage a late Putinesque power grab -- it will have been 17 years. In that time, a Hollywood dynamic has developed on “The Tonight Show.” Stars know that they can go on Leno and never be embarrassed -- no matter what stupid thing they’ve done. His relentless barrage of softball questions can be batted away by even the most green and naive of stars. “The Tonight Show” is a safe harbor from Letterman’s more caustic questions and the anything-can-happen setting of Jimmy Kimmel’s ABC show (or, for that matter, the noisy frat-house feel of Kilborn’s “Late, Late Show”).

The worry here is not that some poor actress from “The O.C.” will get mocked by O’Brien on “The Tonight Show” or, say, someone like troubled Tom Sizemore will get righteously and hilariously flayed by him -- the worry is that they won’t. Television can’t afford to have O’Brien neutered just because he wants to appeal to a wider audience at an earlier hour. Look how it ruined the sting of Leno’s jokes.

Will the mainstream audience that watches “The Tonight Show” go for snarky? And in the remaining five years, will O’Brien start the slow dulling of his comedic instincts to mollify NBC brass?

It’s understandable that O’Brien wants that job. It’s high-profile. It’s historic. Letterman clearly wanted it and was heartbroken and disillusioned that he didn’t get it. But ultimately, Leno was the right pick. It allowed Letterman to establish a late-night presence with CBS and lose none of his caustic style in the process.

But “The Tonight Show” is, without question, a be-careful-what-you-wish-for job. Pleasing the masses is a thankless job, although the salary is pretty sweet. You can’t help wondering, however, if the notoriously image-aware Leno wouldn’t trade a little money for more street cred and respect -- the kind of comedic reverence usually reserved for Letterman (who, though he trails in viewers, leads in Emmy respect), and the kind now being showered on Jon Stewart of Comedy Central’s “The Daily Show.”

Maybe O’Brien thinks “The Tonight Show” is the Holy Grail -- much like Letterman did. But he would have been a much better fit replacing Letterman (who is always rumored to have a foot out the door). You expect someone to take Letterman’s job who will continue a history of relentless (possibly pointless) sarcasm, stupidity and ridiculousness.

Conversely, you expect someone to take Leno’s job who will continue to be coy but inoffensive with the Olsen twins.

It could be that O’Brien believes there’s little left for him to prove in a field where latecomers like Kilborn and Kimmel, while funny, have watered down the brand.

News Analysis: Why Make Leno a Lame Duck?
By BILL CARTER

Published: September 29, 2004

After NBC's surprise announcement Monday of the unusual deal that secured Conan O'Brien as the next host of the "Tonight" show at the end of a five-year transition period, the question facing the network's executives yesterday was one the current host, Jay Leno, once memorably asked:

What were you thinking?

Unlike Hugh Grant, the actor who answered that question on Mr. Leno's show in 1995 in his first television appearance after being arrested with a prostitute, NBC's executives, along with everyone else involved in the negotiations with the two stars, were maintaining an official silence yesterday.

They preferred to let Mr. Leno's comments on his show Monday night, and Mr. O'Brien's on his show last night, speak for everyone. But neither man addressed the question that was the talk of the television industry yesterday: Why would NBC set up such an extended transition in a business, network television, that is unsure what condition it will be in next season, never mind five years down the road?

The answer: because protecting the late-night franchise is more important than ever. Indeed, at a time when most of the network television audience continues to erode, late-night programs remain not just stable, but actually capable of growth.

Five years ago, the two biggest late-night entertainment franchises on the networks, "Tonight" with Mr. Leno on NBC and "Late Show With David Letterman" on CBS, attracted a combined nightly average of 9.8 million viewers. Last year, the two shows actually did better, averaging just over 10 million viewers combined. (Notably, Mr. O'Brien's 12:35 p.m. show, "Late Night," was also up from five years ago, to 2.5 million viewers from 2.3 million.)

Almost no other area of network television has been adding viewers, with the occasional exception of morning television, where on-air stars are also highly prized. In contrast, the four big networks - NBC, CBS, ABC and Fox - had a combined average of 48.1 million viewers in prime time five seasons ago, a figure that fell to 42.8 million last season.

The finances tell a similar story. NBC made more than $200 million in profit on Mr. Leno's and Mr. O'Brien's shows this past year, on revenues of $320 million, according to one NBC late-night executive. That is more profit than either ABC or Fox made as an entire network. (CBS made close to $100 million on Mr. Letterman's show on revenue of close to $180 million, according to a CBS late-night executive.)

While it may seem risky for NBC to set up so long a transition - even a re-elected president is a lame duck for only four years - in late night, the move makes some sense.

By doing so, Jeff Zucker, the president of the NBC Universal Television Group who spearheaded the negotiations, could secure two known stars and NBC's late-night future for most of the rest of this decade. His problem was that Mr. Leno had little reason to think about stepping down, having dominated the late-night ratings since 1995.

But the threat of losing Mr. O'Brien was real. "The known quantities in late night are so valuable, because with all the fragmentation in the rest of television, it's so hard for people to become known quantities," said Rob Burnett, the executive producer of Mr. Letterman's program.

The Fox network chased Mr. O'Brien four years ago, suggesting at one point a salary of $25 million a year. (He makes about $8 million at NBC. Mr. Leno makes an estimated $25 million; Mr. Letterman makes $31 million).

More recently, ABC, which made a similar run at Mr. Letterman three years ago, discreetly let Mr. O'Brien's associates know that it could be interested in talking to him when he was free to listen to other offers in the last year of his contract, beginning next January. Had Mr. O'Brien become available, ABC would almost certainly have dropped or pushed back its current late-night lineup, "Nightline" and "Jimmy Kimmel Live."

(One name often mentioned along with Mr. O'Brien's as a potential 11:35 late-night star is Jon Stewart, the host of "The Daily Show" on Comedy Central. But Mr. Stewart, who was passed over for Mr. Kimmel two years ago for the 12:05 a.m. time slot, is locked into a four-year contract.)

Mr. O'Brien had made plain his conviction that he could not remain a host of the 12:35 show much longer, telling The New York Times earlier this year: "I think it's natural to at some point want to move earlier. I think I've proved I can do a show that I don't think has to exist at 12:30."

He had already surpassed Mr. Letterman's 11-year tenure at "Late Night." When Mr. Zucker signed Mr. Leno in March to a contract extension through 2009, some of Mr. O'Brien's representatives expressed frustration that he would not get a shot at "Tonight," and began discussing more openly the possibility of jumping to ABC.

NBC had suffered through a similar set of events once before. That was in 1993, after the network gave "Tonight" to Mr. Leno and Mr. Letterman then jumped from the "Late Night" spot to CBS, where he established the first viable challenge to what had been a half-century of late-night dominance by NBC.

NBC's top management, led now as then by Bob Wright, did not want to see a replay.

According to a friend at NBC, neither did Mr. Leno, who was in the middle of the nastiness surrounding Mr. Letterman's departure. Referring to his fractured relationship with Mr. Letterman, Mr. Leno said on his show Monday night: "A lot of good friendships were permanently damaged. Quite frankly, I don't want to see anybody go through that again."

The elements came together first in Mr. O'Brien's decision to put off a chance to move up to an 11:35 slot for about three years - he could have probably first appeared on ABC in September 2006 - and then in Mr. Leno's decision to allow NBC to take Mr. O'Brien off the market.

The decisions only underscored the continuing value of the "Tonight" prize, still the best job in late-night television.