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Ik was een beetje aan het rondneuzen op IMDB.com en kom ik bij de Goofs (fouten) van Saving Private Ryan. Hehehe, da zijn me er nog wat voor een grootschalige en professionele film als deze. Maar de film is en blijft goed

Hier zijn ze:

Incorrectly regarded as goofs: Several times when Corporal Upham is seen carrying .30 caliber ammunition belts just prior to and during the holding of the bridge scene, it appears that primers are missing; in fact, they were black, which made them look empty.

Continuity: In the scene with the mother finding out about her three sons, we see a picture of all four boys IN UNIFORM. Later, though, Ryan says that the last time the four of them were together was when his oldest brother went off to basic training.

Anachronisms: The phone cord in the Ryan farmhouse is coiled. Phone cords in 1944 were straight.

Incorrectly regarded as goofs: When the army car drives toward the Ryan farmhouse, the fields are brown. While Iowa farm fields are normally green in June, there could have been a drought, or the crop could be wheat.

Incorrectly regarded as goofs: As the squad travels at night, the flashes and sounds of far distant explosions are seen and heard roughly simultaneously. (The sound of an explosion a mile away should be heard some 5 seconds after the flash is seen.) The key is the word "roughly"; there are so many explosions that we may well be hearing one explosion around the time we see the next.

Continuity: Upham nervously knocks over a shelf full of items, including two helmets (his own and a German souvenir). A moment later, he reaches back to take a helmet, which has magically replaced itself on the shelf.

Continuity: The blood coming from Wade's mouth appears and disappears.

Incorrectly regarded as goofs: General George Catlett Marshall is wearing General Staff lapel insignia. This is correct; there are photographs of him wearing these insignia.

Crew or equipment visible: In the field scene (before they meet the German APC), we can see the camera's square shadow on Corporal Upham's shoulder.

Continuity: After the team goes out in search of Private Ryan, they are seen crossing fields. Then a couple of them are killed but in another scene, the whole team are seen crossing a field.

Continuity: Not sure of names, but when (I believe) "Fish" gives the translator guy the rounds with no primers, the loose end is in his left hand during one shot then in the next shot the loose end is in his right and the folded end is in his left.

Revealing mistakes: Obvious dummy on top of tank that gets his head blown off by the 20 MM during final bridge scene.

Incorrectly regarded as goofs: In the first beach landing scene, and throughout the film, there are references made to the Browning automatic rifle (BAR). Some claim the BAR was never deployed on the western front because of fears that the Germans would find out that we had such a useful light machine gun. However, there are numerous reports of BAR deployments in Europe, as early as 1941. Arguments to the contrary are probably thinking of WW I.

Factual errors: The background on the Ryan brothers states that they all were members of the 29th before the Sullivan brothers were killed. After that they were split up. It's doubtful that all four would have been assigned to the 29th in the first place, as the 29th was mostly comprised of Virginia National Guard troops as the cadre.

Revealing mistakes: When the soldiers arrive at the 101st rally point, the same extra walks by, up to 4 times.

Incorrectly regarded as goofs: In the latter part of the movie, Capt. Miller uses the phrase "let's lock and load." Some have misheard this as "rock and roll," which would be anachronistic.

Continuity: While alternating between the beach steadicam shots and the German gunners POV shots during the opening D-Day landing scenes, the number of troops on the beach changes dramatically.

Incorrectly regarded as goofs: The middle-aged Ryan, whom we see at the beginning and end of the movie, is wearing a lapel pin that some misidentified as a Purple Heart (which seems inconsistent with the success of the mission); it is in fact a 101st Airborne "Screaming Eagle" pin.

Incorrectly regarded as goofs: As Upham and Mellish are loading ammo in preparation for the final battle, Upham (who is smoking) is telling Mellish how he told the supply officer he didn't smoke before leaving England. In the earlier scene where Upham is talking with the German soldier, he shares a cigarette with him. He presumably started smoking in the interim.

Revealing mistakes: During the scene at the 101st rally point, where a long line of troops is walking past, at one point you can clearly see in the background the extras lined up waiting for their cue to start walking.

Continuity: The soldier with a drooping mouth in the back of Miller's transport is seen later at the 101st Airborne rally point as the paratrooper with Ryan's deaf friend.

Plot holes: Upham is chastised for saluting Capt. Miller because it makes him a sniper target, yet Capt. Miller is wearing bright silver Captain insignia on his helmet, which would be recognized by any good sniper anyway. (Reportedly, the military advisor pointed out this problem, but the filmmakers overruled him.)

Continuity: The first time a solder attempts to put a "sticky bomb" on the German tank, he is blown to bits. The soldier that attempts this is wearing a tan uniform. However, the dummy that gets blown up a second later is wearing a green uniform.

Revealing mistakes: On the beach near the seawall when the man next to Capt. Miller gets shot in the face his head looks like an empty ball. There would be visible through the wound the remaining structures of the head, brain tissue, bone and blood not a black abyss. (One viewer says this is, in fact, accurate.)

Incorrectly regarded as goofs: The waterproof bags holding rifles on D-Day were indeed some kind of clear plastic.

Continuity: When the soldiers are about to search through the Airborne's dog tags they head towards a single crate, meaning to use it as a table. When they reach the crate an ammo box has appeared, stacked on top. Jackson knocks the top box off.

Continuity: The fuses on the sticky bombs get longer and shorter randomly.

Incorrectly regarded as goofs: In the final battle, we see tanks with open roofs. While similar to the enclosed Panzer, these are in fact Marder III tank destroyers. The American soldiers probably referred to all German tanks as Panzers.

Audio/visual unsynchronised: During the opening sequence and prior to any real objective attained, we see a soldier place his right hand upon Cpt. Miller's shoulder proclaiming: "They're killin' us and we don't have a ... chance and that ain't fair!" At the start of his sentence the soldier is clearly visible, however, when he finishes his statement, he's absent from the scene, yet we hear his words.

Factual errors: When the team in search of Ryan attacks the German radar station, as they are running we see dead cows strewn about. The hair on the cows is matted and they are dirty, suggesting they have been dead some time. When they are hit with bullets however, they bleed, which would not happen. (Their stiffness is not relevant, since it sets in fairly quickly.)

Miscellaneous: In the advertisement for "Suze: L'âme de l'estomach," the last word is a combination of the English "stomach" with the correct French "estomac."

Revealing mistakes: In the end scene in the bell tower, just before Parker's .30cal machine gun runs out of ammo, you can clearly see he's firing blanks.

Incorrectly regarded as goofs: When the Tiger tank traverses its turret, you can hear a whine. While the Tiger's turret had hand cranks, these were used only for fine adjustments or in case the hydraulic motor failed.

Factual errors: The blue and yellow "diamond" patch worn by the Rangers in the film, though officially approved by the War Department, was not generally worn by the independent-minded Rangers who preferred their own red and black "scroll" design, like that worn by modern Rangers.

Revealing mistakes: Near the end of the film, when Upham confronts the group of Nazi soldiers at gunpoint, one of the soldiers on the left side of the screen can clearly be seen with an amused smile.

Continuity: When the German tank gets blown up in the final battle, it is clearly mid-way across the bridge, yet in subsequent shots it is still on the other side of the bridge. Also, the number of sandbag emplacements changes dramatically.

Continuity: Jackson intervenes when Reiben and Horvath are having a dispute. From the camera angle when Jackson says, "Sir, we got a situation over here," he has his pistol in his hand and pointed at Sgt Horvath. A few seconds later, from another angle, Jackson's pistol is still tucked in his belt and he draws it and points it at Sgt Horvath.

Factual errors: Upham says that he speaks German without any accent. But his English accent while speaking German is terrible. He could just be deluding himself, but that doesn't seem to be the implication.

Crew or equipment visible: During the final battle at the bridge, right after Sgt. Horvath fires the bazooka for the last time he starts to run across the bridge with the bazooka. In the bottom right corner, for a second you can see the camera operator and a man in a white shirt helping him.

Anachronisms: The motorcycle and sidecar that is featured in close up toward the end of the film should be a German BMW or Zundapp. In fact a modern Russian Ural/Dneiper was used (giveaways are shape of the petrol tank, front mudguard etc).

Incorrectly regarded as goofs: In the end of the movie, German soldiers are throwing hand grenades in a house through a hole in the wall. An American picks it up and throws it back out. A few seconds later it explodes, indicating it is a timed grenade. Contrary to some reports, the Germans did use timed grenades; the grenade shown is the Stielhandgranate 24 ("stick hand grenade").

Continuity: Middle-aged Ryan at end of movie squares himself at the foot of Capt Miller's grave and salutes, yet the camera immediately moves behind him and he is at 40 degree angle to tombstone.

Anachronisms: WWII soldiers wore brown boots or brogans (hi-tops) with tan canvas puttees; black boots did not come into the inventory until 1958.

Factual errors: The US Army did not wear green T-shirts in WWII. They wore khaki tank tops.

Factual errors: The P-51's attacking the tanks were not "tank busters," or P-47 Thunderbolts; there are many more P-51's still flying.

Factual errors: The German halftrack destroyed by the 101st bazooka was described as a "recon element of the 2nd SS." The 2nd SS, or Das Reich, Panzer division was stationed in southern France at the time of the D-Day invasion. It was moved to Normandy in late June and held in reserve until early July, so it could not have been present on June 13, when the climactic battle took place. (One viewer disputes this, but support for their claim cannot be found; evidence is that the II. Panzer did not move until after D-Day.)

Continuity: In a close-up during the sticky bomb sequence, one soldier slaps a bomb on the road wheel of the Tiger and it explodes. In the longer shot of the explosion, the road wheel is intact and the turret and engine panels are exploding.

Revealing mistakes: The Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR) that Reiben carries has an unusually elongated muzzle flash suppressor, indicating a blank adapter necessary to fire blank ammo with the gas-operated BAR. The usual supportive folding bipod, attached to the normal muzzle flash suppressor on the front of the BAR to give sustained accurate fire suppression ability, was probably removed to accommodate the blank adapter (although it was not uncommon for a BAR man to take the bipods off in certain combat situations).

"We few. We happy few. We Band of Brothers. For those who shed their blood with us today shall always be our Brothers."
pi_2800336
Valt wel mee toch ?

Een heleboel zaken blijken geen fout te zijn, wat er over blijft komt doordat je nou eenmaal niet met scherpe munitie op echte mensen aan het schieten bent, en doordat scenes vaak in een andere volgorde worden gefilmd dan dat ze in de film te zien zijn.

SPR is voor een film die 50 jaar van WOII gemaakt is verbluffend authentiek.

  zondag 13 januari 2002 @ 12:13:27 #3
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pi_2800350
hehe lache hoor, allemaal van die foutjes. maarja dit zal wel in elke film zitten.
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  zondag 13 januari 2002 @ 13:51:00 #4
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pi_2801040
Maar vooral bij Spielberg films komen er ontzettend vaak schaduwen of reflecties van de camera voor in beeld. Ook bij Empire of the Sun viel me dat op en het irriteerde me mateloos; zit je daar helemaal in de film op te gaan, zie je opeens zo'n schaduw/reflectie... En dan van zo'n 'goede' filmmaker.
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pi_2814097
Valt wel mee toch ?

vind je dit meevallen. nou ik dus niet. zoals je hierboven leest komt dit zeer vaak voor bij spielberg films. Nu maar hopen dat dat niet zo is bij Band of Brothers.

"We few. We happy few. We Band of Brothers. For those who shed their blood with us today shall always be our Brothers."
  zaterdag 30 november 2002 @ 13:12:33 #6
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Is that a gun in your pocket?
pi_7072900
Het ergste is nog dat de Tiger ( ) tank compleet buiten proporties is. Maar wel errug goed nagebouwd, zonder meer...
Humans should not attempt to fire this gun without the gun being secured. Failure to do so will result in serious injury or death. - Charlie don't surf!
pi_7074365
Ach, er zitten maar 84 fouten in
Hij staat daarmee wel in de top 20 van films met de meest fouten. Op 1. staat The Matrix overigens.
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