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Op dinsdag 28 november 2006 14:53 schreef 7eVeNL het volgende:

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Zelfde had ik met King kong, van alles too much gewoon, al die kleureffecten na afloop, bljif gewoon van die orginele films af, gebruik filters en geen computers om kleuren extra mooi naar voren te laten komen, het oogt allemaal een stuk onrealistischer

voorbeelden; knal groen bos, new-york in de ochtend met een flinke waas, vuur/lava contrasten te extreem, het enige wat ik geslaagd vond achteraf is de animatie van kong en de gedeeltelijke remake van new york

CGI is done
Maar wel aan de originele verhaallijn gehouden
*This is the end, beautiful friend - This is the end, my only friend
*The end of our elaborate plans - The end of everything that stands
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Op maandag 27 november 2006 17:10 schreef Patch het volgende:
In all the feuding over "The Hobbit", the one wild card has now spoken out about the issue. Saul Zaentz, the millionaire "Amadeus" and "The English Patient" producer who owns the rights to J.R.R. Tolkien's works, has gone on the record with enthusiastic support of director Peter Jackson.

"It will definitely be shot by Peter Jackson. ... Next year The Hobbit rights will fall back to my company. I suppose that Peter will wait because he knows that he will make the best deal with us" said Zaentz to German site Elbenwald.de via Showbiz Data.

The whole quarrel right now is over outstanding money owed to Jackson by New Line for his work on the first film of the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy. Jackson wants to direct at least one of the two prequel "Hobbit" films planned, but won't do it until the issue is resolved. Both a large cadre of fans and MGM, the studio who owns the distribution rights to "The Hobbit", also want him to do it.

Only New Line, who holds the production rights at present, isn't keen on the idea because it would require them settling their lawsuit quite soon - a movie that would put them millions out of pocket. The studio is opting to go with a new director and production team as they have to get into production on the film by next year or the rights will revert back to Zaentz.

Zaentz is perfectly happy with that idea it seems, it would allow him and Jackson to proceed without any studio interference - "He [Jackson] is fed up with the studios: to get his profit share on the Rings trilogy he had to sue New Line. With us, in contrast, he knows that he will be paid fairly and artistically supported without reservation".

Right now though how this plays out is fascinating to watch. All sides are using media outlets to their advantage in this fight, and both the newly-reformed MGM and Zaentz have proven they're not afraid to go at it tooth and claw. Yet right now the ball is in New Line's court, whatever they do next will determine the outcome.
Ik weet niet waar je dit vandaan hebt gehaald, maar ik heb dit net gelezen:

Moments ago we received this email from Peter Jackson and his crew down in New Zealand, take a look...

Dear One Ringers,

As you know, there's been a lot of speculation about The Hobbit. We are often asked about when or if this film will ever be made. We have always responded that we would be very interested in making the film - if it were offered to us to make.

You may also be aware that Wingnut Films has bought a lawsuit against New Line, which resulted from an audit we undertook on part of the income of The Fellowship of the Ring. Our attitude with the lawsuit has always been that since it's largely based on differences of opinion about certain accounting practices, we would like an independent body - whether it be a judge, a jury, or a mediator, to look at the issues and make an unbiased ruling. We are happy to accept whatever that ruling is. In our minds, it's not much more complex than that and that's exactly why film contracts include right-to-audit clauses.

However, we have always said that we do not want to discuss The Hobbit with New Line until the lawsuit over New Line's accounting practices is resolved. This is simple common sense - you cannot be in a relationship with a film studio, making a complex, expensive movie and dealing with all the pressures and responsibilities that come with the job, while an unresolved lawsuit exists.

We have also said that we do not want to tie settlement of the lawsuit to making a film of The Hobbit. In other words, we would have to agree to make The Hobbit as a condition of New Line settling our lawsuit. In our minds this is not the right reason to make a film and if a film of The Hobbit went ahead on this basis, it would be doomed. Deciding to make a movie should come from the heart - it's not a matter of business convenience. When you agree to make a film, you're taking on a massive commitment and you need to be driven by an absolute passion to want to get the story on screen. It's that passion, and passion alone, that gives the movie its imagination and heart. To us it is not a cold-blooded business decision.

A couple of months ago there was a flurry of Hobbit news in the media. MGM, who own a portion of the film rights in The Hobbit, publicly stated they wanted to make the film with us. It was a little weird at the time because nobody from New Line had ever spoken to us about making a film of The Hobbit and the media had some fun with that. Within a week or two of those stories, our Manager Ken Kamins got a call from the co-president of New Line Cinema, Michael Lynne, who in essence told Ken that the way to settle the lawsuit was to get a commitment from us to make the Hobbit, because "that's how these things are done". Michael Lynne said we would stand to make much more money if we tied the lawsuit and the movie deal together and this may well be true, but it's still the worst reason in the world to agree to make a film.

Several years ago, Mark Ordesky told us that New Line have rights to make not just The Hobbit but a second "LOTR prequel", covering the events leading up to those depicted in LOTR. Since then, we've always assumed that we would be asked to make The Hobbit and possibly this second film, back to back, as we did the original movies. We assumed that our lawsuit with the studio would come to a natural conclusion and we would then be free to discuss our ideas with the studio, get excited and jump on board. We've assumed that we would possibly get started on development and design next year, whilst filming The Lovely Bones. We even had a meeting planned with MGM executives to talk through our schedule.

However last week, Mark Ordesky called Ken and told him that New Line would no longer be requiring our services on the Hobbit and the LOTR 'prequel'. This was a courtesy call to let us know that the studio was now actively looking to hire another filmmaker for both projects.

Ordesky said that New Line has a limited time option on the film rights they have obtained from Saul Zaentz (this has never been conveyed to us before), and because we won't discuss making the movies until the lawsuit is resolved, the studio is going to have to hire another director.

Given that New Line are committed to this course of action, we felt at the very least, we owed you, the fans, a straightforward account of events as they have unfolded for us.

We have always had the greatest support from The Ringers and we are very sorry our involvement with The Hobbit has been ended in this way. Our journey into Tolkien's world started with a phone call from Ken Kamins to Harvey Weinstein in Nov 1995 and ended with a phone call from Mark Ordesky to Ken in Nov 2006. It has been a great 11 years.

This outcome is not what we anticipated or wanted, but neither do we see any positive value in bitterness and rancor. We now have no choice but to let the idea of a film of The Hobbit go and move forward with other projects.

We send our very best wishes to whomever has the privilege of making The Hobbit and look forward to seeing the film on the big screen.

Warmest regards to you all, and thanks for your incredible support over the years.

We got to go there - but not back again ...

Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh
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Ik begrijp er iig weinig meer van met die elkaar tegensprekende berichten.
  woensdag 29 november 2006 @ 18:20:02 #129
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Op woensdag 29 november 2006 15:12 schreef Votz het volgende:

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Ik weet niet waar je dit vandaan hebt gehaald, maar ik heb dit net gelezen:
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Jouw post had ik ook al geplaatst
1e post had ik van DarkHorizons, de andere had ik idd: van theonering
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New Line Cinema notified Lord of the Rings director Peter Jackson that he would not be involved in the production of The Hobbit and another LOTR prequel after Jackson declined to contribute a video salute to the studio for its 40th anniversary celebration next year, the New York Times reported today (Wednesday), citing two people familiar with the matter. Jackson and New Line are locked in a legal dispute over profits from The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring. The Times said that Jackson's camp has accused the studio of dropping him from the prequels "in a fit of pique." Meanwhile, a spokesman for MGM which owns distribution rights to The Hobbit, told the Times. "We support Peter Jackson as a filmmaker, and believe that when the dust settles, he'll be making the movie. We can't imagine any other result."
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Another LOTR prequel? The Silmarillion?

Dat werkt toch heul niet als film?
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Op woensdag 29 november 2006 23:05 schreef MadGuy het volgende:
Another LOTR prequel? The Silmarillion?

Dat werkt toch heul niet als film?
Dat zal de oorlog worden die in de LOTR wordt verteld, het begin van de ring. De Silmarillion heeft daar weinig mee te maken.
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  donderdag 30 november 2006 @ 08:46:09 #133
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Op woensdag 29 november 2006 23:05 schreef MadGuy het volgende:
Another LOTR prequel? The Silmarillion?

Dat werkt toch heul niet als film?
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Op donderdag 30 november 2006 08:17 schreef Votz het volgende:

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Dat zal de oorlog worden die in de LOTR wordt verteld, het begin van de ring. De Silmarillion heeft daar weinig mee te maken.
Ik had begrepen dat er twee LOTR-prequels verfilmd zouden worden: de eerste is The Hobbit en de tweede zou dan verhalen over wat er tussen The Hobbit en LOTR gebeurt. Dat is volgens mij niet bijster veel, maar wie weet?
[b]Op maandag 12 december 2005 22:25 schreef MissBliss het volgende:[/b]
Ik sta in niemands sig ;(
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Op donderdag 30 november 2006 08:46 schreef Zhenar het volgende:

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Ik had begrepen dat er twee LOTR-prequels verfilmd zouden worden: de eerste is The Hobbit en de tweede zou dan verhalen over wat er tussen The Hobbit en LOTR gebeurt. Dat is volgens mij niet bijster veel, maar wie weet?
Lijkt mij een overkill, dan kunnen ze beter het verhaal voor de The Hobbit verfilmen, dat is veel interessanter, alleen is dat weer grotendeels uitgelegd in LOTR zelf. Tussen The Hobbit en LOTR zit niet veel, misschien hier en daar een losse vertelling van Tolkien zelf: Tom Bombardil?
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  donderdag 30 november 2006 @ 09:15:50 #135
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Maar in de brief die PJ naar theonering.net stuurde staat dus:
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Several years ago, Mark Ordesky told us that New Line have rights to make not just The Hobbit but a second "LOTR prequel", covering the events leading up to those depicted in LOTR.


[ Bericht 88% gewijzigd door Zhenar op 30-11-2006 11:13:56 ]
[b]Op maandag 12 december 2005 22:25 schreef MissBliss het volgende:[/b]
Ik sta in niemands sig ;(
  donderdag 30 november 2006 @ 11:08:08 #136
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Op donderdag 30 november 2006 09:15 schreef Zhenar het volgende:
Dit is de brief die PJ naar theonering.net stuurde:
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En die nu twee keer op deze pagina en een keer op de vorige pagina staat. Die op deze pagina kan je best gemist hebben, staat een paar posts hoger en in bold tenslotte.
Op woensdag 24 sept. 2008 schreef Danny het volgende:
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  donderdag 30 november 2006 @ 11:09:00 #137
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Op donderdag 30 november 2006 08:17 schreef Votz het volgende:

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Dat zal de oorlog worden die in de LOTR wordt verteld, het begin van de ring. De Silmarillion heeft daar weinig mee te maken.
Ja, nee, niet dus, heb je het topic niet gelezen? Vorige pagina.
Op woensdag 24 sept. 2008 schreef Danny het volgende:
Dagonet doet onaardig tegen iedereen. Je bent dus helemaal niet zo bijzonder als je denkt...
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  donderdag 30 november 2006 @ 11:14:39 #138
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Op donderdag 30 november 2006 11:08 schreef Dagonet het volgende:

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En die nu twee keer op deze pagina en een keer op de vorige pagina staat. Die op deze pagina kan je best gemist hebben, staat een paar posts hoger en in bold tenslotte.
niet-teruglezers
[b]Op maandag 12 december 2005 22:25 schreef MissBliss het volgende:[/b]
Ik sta in niemands sig ;(
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Ik hoorde dat Brett Ratner interesse had om The Hobbit te verfilmen.
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X-Men 3 en een zooi videoclips. Tof. .
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Elijah / Frodo heeft ook zijn mening:

When New Line announced several weeks ago that they planned to start work on The Hobbit, a good many Middle Earth enthusiasts were elated. Then New Line informed Jackson that, due to a legal dispute over Lord of the Rings earnings, his services would not be required for that project or a hitherto unknown 'second prequel'. Cue: one disappointed director, and the outrage of thousands of fans.

Keen to find out how those close to the Lord Of The Rings camp feel about the whole mess, Empire sat down with Frodo himself, Elijah Wood, to get his thoughts on the matter. "I feel exactly the same way Peter does."

"I think it's a total shame, primarily for Peter and his team – WETA, and the thousands of people that lent their artistic creativity for ten years to this world of Middle Earth -- to imagine that somebody else would be given that opportunity, and that it essentially wouldn't be made by the same team"

As someone who wouldn't be needed for at least the first of what is increasing looking like two precursor films, Wood has more room to comment than some of the LOTR cast, and spoke candidly. "I can't imagine any of the original actors would want to join it… how can you imagine a prequel that didn't look the same, and didn't have the same continuity after all that work?"

But, like many up to speed on the situation, he's not convinced that the fat Hobbit lady has sung. "At the moment it sounds so definitive, and Peter has said "That's the end of the journey" in a very dramatic way, as Peter is wont to do - but absolute power to him, because I would be equally disappointed if I were him. But I think it remains to be seen, and apparently New Line may lose the rights eventually. If that happens, it would eventually - I think - fall back into Peter's hands. It's just sad that it's ultimately a business decision, and not at all considering the fans."
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New Line Co-chairman Bob Shaye has made it clear that his decision not to bring back Peter Jackson to direct the Lord of the Rings prequel The Hobbit is final and not just a negotiating ploy. In an interview with the online Sci-Fi Wire, Shaye said that hiring Jackson for The Hobbit "will never happen during my watch." He claimed that Jackson had received "a quarter of a billion dollars paid to him so far, justifiably, according to contract, completely right, and this guy ... turns around without wanting to have a discussion with us and sues us and refused to discuss it unless we just give in to his plan. ... I don't want to work with that guy anymore." Shaye then emphasized: "He will never make any movie with New Line Cinema again while I'm still working at the company." Jackson quickly fired back that he had tried to discuss the issues with New Line "for over a year, but the studio was and continues to be completely uncooperative."
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Nog nieuws hierover?
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Nog nieuws hierover?
nope...
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nope...
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  maandag 9 juli 2007 @ 12:29:49 #146
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IAM Prof?
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Op maandag 9 juli 2007 12:29 schreef 7eVeNL het volgende:
Niet bepaald
offtopic psstt ... mijn mail gehad?
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The Los Angeles Times reports that New Line's Bob Shaye is in talks with filmmaker Peter Jackson's representatives to potentially work something out in regards to his involvement in the "Lord of the Rings" prequel adaptation of "The Hobbit".

Shaye says "Yes, that's a fair statement. Notwithstanding our personal quarrels, I really respect and admire Peter and would love for him to be creatively involved in some way with THE HOBBIT."

The result is one of the juiciest rumours in a while. IESB reports that although Jackson won’t be back to direct, a source of theirs is telling them that Sam Raimi is looking to direct with Peter Jackson attached to produce.
Raimi has previously said he would not take on the project without Jackson’s blessing and is apparently leaning towards it as his next project rather than the "Clash of the Titans" remake.
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A full on production timeline for "The Hobbit" film reveals an interesting history of the troubled "Lord of the Rings" prequel, whilst Viggo Mortensen has talked about possibly reprising his Aragorn role in it.


http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1189963525
http://moviesblog.mtv.com(...)pen-the-possibility/
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Aragorn in de Hobbit, why for fucks sake?
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