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Op maandag 2 oktober 2006 20:02 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:
Geen idee wie het verder is maar ja. In dat geval denk ik het beter te weten ja.

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Op maandag 2 oktober 2006 21:41 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:
Nou weet ik toevallig wel wat van radiogolven af ja en wat er hier allemaal beweerd wordt is hier grotendeels niet mee te doen Het zou bijvoorbeeld ook eens leuk zijn om naar de luchtlaag te kijken waar het hier over gaat en waar deze zich bevind in de atmosfeer.

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Is HAARP capable of affecting the weather?
The HAARP facility will not affect the weather. Transmitted energy in the frequency ranges that will be used by HAARP is not absorbed in either the troposphere or the stratosphere - the two levels of the atmosphere that produce the earth's weather. Electromagnetic interactions only occur in the near-vacuum of the rarefied region above about 70 km known as the ionosphere.

The ionosphere is created and continuously replenished as the sun's radiation interacts with the highest levels of the Earth's atmosphere. The downward coupling from the ionosphere to the stratosphere/troposphere is extremely weak, and no association between natural ionospheric variability and surface weather and climate has been found, even at the extraordinarily high levels of ionospheric turbulence that the sun can produce during a geomagnetic storm. If the ionospheric storms caused by the sun itself don't affect the surface weather, there is no chance that HAARP can do so either.
HAARP FAQ

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'Small Input, Big Effect'

HAARP zaps the ionosphere where it is relatively unstable. A point to remember is that the ionosphere is an active electrical shield protecting the planet from the constant bombardment of high-energy particles from space. This conducting plasma, along with Earth's magnetic field, traps the electrical plasma of space and holds it back from going directly to the earth's surface, says Charles Yost of Dynamic Systems, Leicester, North Carolina.

"If the ionosphere is greatly disturbed, the atmosphere below is subsequently disturbed.".

Another scientist interviewed said there is a super-powerful electrical connection between the ionosphere and the part of the atmosphere where our weather comes onstage, the lower atmosphere.

One man-made electrical effect - power line harmonic resonance - causes fallout of charged particles from the Van Allen (radiation) belts, and the falling ions cause ice crystals (which precipitate rain clouds).

What about HAARP? Energy blasted upward from an ionospheric heater is not much compared to the total in the ionosphere, but HAARP documents admit that thousandfold-greater amounts of energy can be released in the ionosphere than injected. As with MacDonald's "key to geophysical warfare", "nonlinear" effects (described in the literature about the ionospheric heater) mean small input and large output. Astrophysicist Adam Trombly told Manning that an acupuncture model is one way to look at the possible effect of multi-gigawatt pulsing of the ionosphere. If HAARP hits certain points , those parts of the ionosphere could react in surprising ways.

Smaller ionospheric heaters such as the one at Arecibo are underneath relatively placid regions of the ionosphere, compared to the dynamic movements nearer Earth's magnetic poles. That adds another uncertainty to HAARP - the unpredictable and lively upper atmosphere near the North Pole.

HAARP experimenters do not impress common sense Alaskans such as Barbara Zickuhr, who says "They're like boys playing with a sharp stick, finding a sleeping bear and poking it in the butt to see what's going to happen."
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Op maandag 2 oktober 2006 22:21 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:
bron: wiki en een goed boek over zendammateurs en alles wat er bij komt kijken.

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Op maandag 2 oktober 2006 22:38 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:
Grappig dat je niet ingaat op de argumenten. Heb je ook een reden waarom zendammateurs zich hier buiten zouden moeten houden? Ik heb wel eens in die frequentie range gewerkt. Gebruik gemaakt van die lagen. Jij ook?

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Eastlund's patent said the technology can confuse or completely disrupt airplanes' and missiles' sophisticated guidance systems. Further, this ability to spray large areas of Earth with electromagnetic waves of varying frequencies, and to control changes in those waves, makes it possible to knock out communications on land or sea as well as in the air. The patent said:

"Thus, this invention provides the ability to put unprecedented amounts of power in the Earth's atmosphere at strategic locations and to maintain the power injection level, particularly if random pulsing is employed, in a manner far more precise and better controlled than heretofore accomplished by the prior art, particularly by detonation of nuclear devices of various yields at various altitudes..."

'..it is possible not only to interfere with third party communications but to take advantage of one or more such beams to carry out a communications network even though the rest of the world's communications are disrupted. Put another way, what is used to disrupt another's communications can be employed by one knowledgeable of this invention as a communication network at the same time."

.'.. large regions of the atmosphere could be lifted to an unexpectedly high altitude so that missiles encounter unexpected and unplanned drag forces with resultant destruction ...

" Weather modification is possible by, for example, altering upper atmosphere wind patterns by constructing one or more plumes of atmospheric particles which will act as a lens or focusing device. ... molecular modifications of the atmosphere can take place so that positive environmental effects can be achieved. Besides actually changing the molecular composition of an atmospheric region, a particular molecule or molecules can be chosen for increased presence. For example, ozone, nitrogen, etc., concentrations in the atmosphere could be artificially increased...

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Op maandag 2 oktober 2006 23:08 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:
Dat wist ik al. Zijn wel meerdere van dergelijke onderzoekscentra in de wereld.
Oh dat zou in theorie vast wel kunnen werken Daar heb je echter (volgens die artikelen ook btw) VEEL meer vermogen en totaal andere frequenties voor nodig. Microgolven bijv.

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Ionospheric research facilities have been in continuous use since the 1950's to investigate fundamental physical principles which govern the earth's ionosphere, so that present and future transmission technologies may take into account the complexities of the ionosphere. At the present time the US operates two ionospheric research sites, one in Puerto Rico, near the Arecibo Observatory, and the other (known as HIPAS) in Alaska near Fairbanks. Both of these employ active and passive radio instrumentation similar to that being built at HAARP. Interest in the ionosphere is not limited to the US: a five-country consortium operates the European Incoherent Scatter Radar site (EISCAT), a premier world-class ionospheric research facility located in northern Norway near Tromsø. Facilities also are located at Jicamarca, Peru; near Moscow, Nizhny Novgorod ("SURA") and Apatity, Russia; near Kharkov, Ukraine and in Dushanbe, Tadzhikistan. All of these installations have as their primary purpose the study of the ionosphere, and most employ the capability of stimulating to a varying degree small, localized regions of the ionosphere in order to study methodically, and in a detailed manner what nature produces randomly and regularly on a much larger scale. HAARP also will have such a capability, but what sets HAARP apart from existing facilities is the unusual combination of a research tool which provides electronic beam steering, wide frequency coverage and high effective radiated power collocated with a diverse suite of scientific observational instruments.

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Op maandag 2 oktober 2006 23:37 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:
Dat patent wat maar terug blijft komen lijkt hier nogal heilig te zijn. Ik heb hem dus eens opgezocht en daar staat toch wel ff iets heel anders dan hier eerder geclaimd werd

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Op maandag 2 oktober 2006 23:59 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:
Oh wacht mijn fout het staat pas bij de beschrijving van de plaatjes

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Op dinsdag 3 oktober 2006 00:17 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:
De zenders van HAARP werken tussen 2.8 en 10 MHz. Dat is HF. Wil je mij dan ook een lol doen en zorgen dat je de juiste feiten hebt?

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The ionosphere is a layer of charged particles (or "ions") located about 60-90 kilometers above the Earth's surface. It is the layer which reflects short wave radio waves and makes it possible for a transmitter in New York to send a signal to Tokyo. Short waves may be good enough to send The Voice of America broadcasts, but they are subject to noise and static. Short wave signals lose much of their power as they travel and can even be blocked by the weather and sunspot activity.

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Extremely High Frequency waves, on the other hand, are much shorter than short waves. They travel in compact, narrowly focused, beams. They do not encounter static or deteriorate from rain or clouds. Since they retain their strength over long distances, they are preferred for most point-to-point communications. Unfortunately, though, EHF waves (including microwaves) do not naturally reflect and bounce off of the ionosphere. For this reason, high frequency waves are said to propagate along the "line of sight." If you own a satellite television dish, you know that it is important for your antenna to be pointed in the direction of the satellite. This is because you are receiving extremely high frequency waves.

Eastlund's discovery involved beaming High Frequency (HF) and Extremely High Frequency (EHF) waves, of extremely high power (over a billion watts), directly at a point on the ionosphere. When this was done, the ionosphere became heated from the accumulating electrical energy. You might think of it as "cooking" the atmosphere.

The heated portion of the ionosphere expands like heated plastic and is raised to a higher altitude, causing an atmospheric "bulge." Eastlund discovered that this bulge was highly reflective to radio waves, and, because of its altitude, it could bounce high frequency radio signals to points well beyond the horizon. Even efficient ELF and microwaves signals, which normally would pass through the ionosphere into space, could be deflected without much loss of strength. He called this heated "bulge" the "lens effect."

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Op dinsdag 3 oktober 2006 12:41 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:
Kan dat ook eens niet ofzo?

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Op maandag 2 oktober 2006 22:53 schreef Wombcat het volgende:

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Iha doe je metingen met ontvangers en niet met zenders. Toch kun je niet bij voorbaat uitsluiten dat door middel van info zenden, je dingen gaat meten. Met radar en sonar zend je ook een signaal uit, om daar vervolgens info mee te vergaren.


De link in je laatste post hierboven, geeft o.a. aan:
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Er wordt (o.a. met commerciële instanties gewerkt, er zijn regelmatige open dagen en HAARP is niet geheim, de data die er verzameld wordt ook niet (en wordt zelfs in realtime op de website gepubliceerd) en ter plekke werken mensen van universiteiten (inclusief studenten) en mensen van commerciële instanties.

Dit alles wekt nu niet direct bij mij de indruk dat er daar gewerkt wordt aan een geheim militair wapen. Dan zou heel die installatie veel meer geheim zijn. Van Area 51 weet eigenlijk ook niemand wat er nu precies gebeurd, waarom zouden ze hier dan zo open over zijn?

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Op maandag 2 oktober 2006 22:45 schreef Resonancer het volgende:
De Ionosfeer kan EM velden terugkaatsen, en Mind/Weather altering (sorry Yuck Fou) behoort dan wel degelijk tot de mogelijkheden.