Frankrijk in Brand : Deel 9 . 30 Agenten Beschoten

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Op maandag 7 november 2005 02:18 schreef PLAE@ het volgende:

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Je zal het misschien niet geloven meer er zijn daadwerkelijk mensen in pauperbuurten die werken en/of naar school gaan.
Het is een schande he

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Op maandag 7 november 2005 02:10 schreef DionysuZ het volgende:

en tegelijkertijd

109: The Disbelievers

109:1 Say: O disbelievers!
109:2 I worship not that which ye worship;
109:3 Nor worship ye that which I worship.
109:4 And I shall not worship that which ye worship.
109:5 Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
109:6 Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.

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Op maandag 7 november 2005 02:11 schreef Twin1983 het volgende:

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Ja dat begreep ik al, vandaar ook mijn reactie erop.

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Op maandag 7 november 2005 02:25 schreef DarkDancer het volgende:
tja, als ik ongelukken zie op tv of ze zelfs maar hoor dan beeld je je automatisch die pijn in.
tja als je dan mensen levend verbrand en vaders dood schopt dan kun je haat verwachten...niet dan?

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Op maandag 7 november 2005 02:25 schreef DarkDancer het volgende:
tja, als ik ongelukken zie op tv of ze zelfs maar hoor dan beeld je je automatisch die pijn in.
tja als je dan mensen levend verbrand en vaders dood schopt dan kun je haat verwachten...niet dan?

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Op maandag 7 november 2005 02:27 schreef PLAE@ het volgende:

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Gewoon tegen moslims in het algemeen. Niet deze relschoppers.

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Op maandag 7 november 2005 02:29 schreef DarkDancer het volgende:

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tegen alle gelovigen. maar ja, moslims weten elke keer weer de aandacht op zich te focussen he...

maar ga filmpje kijken en slapen

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Op maandag 7 november 2005 02:31 schreef PLAE@ het volgende:

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wat moet je dan met een Israelische vlag in je icoon?

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Op maandag 7 november 2005 02:28 schreef DionysuZ het volgende:

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inderdaad. haat de mensen die dergelijke dingen doen. Van mij mag je. Ik zie echter niet in waarom je dan alle andere mensen die toevallig hetzelfde huidskleurtje of geloof hebben bij deze criminelen op een hoop schuift

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Op maandag 7 november 2005 02:41 schreef Godslasteraar het volgende:

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Tuurlijk speelt religie een centrale rol bij deze problemen.

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Op maandag 7 november 2005 03:59 schreef Vampier het volgende:
De algemene gedachtengang in een notendop:

"zei hebben meer... dat willen wij ook!!" Terwijl Mohamed naar MTV kijkt en nummers over bling bling in zijn hoofd gestrampt krijgt.....

"Soliciteren? Waarom zouden we, we krijgen een uitkering. Naar school toe? Waarom? School is niet stoer!"

"Ik krijg toch een uitkering, geen zin in moeilijk doenerij.. mijn bijbaantje als drugs courier levert genoeg op voor mij om merkkleding te kopen" (goed kijken naar de beelden uit Parijs... allemaal merkkleding)

"De blanke (die ons onderhoudt) is zijn een stelletje varkens en homeaux, dood moeten ze! Allah Akhbar!"

Dus dikke BS

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Op maandag 7 november 2005 04:45 schreef Vampier het volgende:
ik kijk geen fox news, te links. En tjah beshaving loopt minstens 800 jaar achter bij het (ik quote) "tuig"

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(...)

I first saw l’insécurité for myself about eight months ago. It was just off the Boulevard Saint-Germain, in a neighborhood where a tolerably spacious apartment would cost $1 million. Three youths—Rumanians—were attempting quite openly to break into a parking meter with large screwdrivers to steal the coins. It was four o’clock in the afternoon; the sidewalks were crowded, and the nearby cafés were full. The youths behaved as if they were simply pursuing a normal and legitimate activity, with nothing to fear.

Eventually, two women in their sixties told them to stop. The youths, laughing until then, turned murderously angry, insulted the women, and brandished their screwdrivers. The women retreated, and the youths resumed their “work.”

A man of about 70 then told them to stop. They berated him still more threateningly, one of them holding a screwdriver as if to stab him in the stomach. I moved forward to help the man, but the youths, still shouting abuse and genuinely outraged at being interrupted in the pursuit of their livelihood, decided to run off. But it all could have ended very differently.

Several things struck me about the incident: the youths’ sense of invulnerability in broad daylight; the indifference to their behavior of large numbers of people who would never dream of behaving in the same way; that only the elderly tried to do anything about the situation, though physically least suited to do so. Could it be that only they had a view of right and wrong clear enough to wish to intervene? That everyone younger than they thought something like: “Refugees . . . hard life . . . very poor . . . too young to know right from wrong and anyway never taught . . . no choice for them . . . punishment cruel and useless”? The real criminals, indeed, were the drivers whose coins filled the parking meters: were they not polluting the world with their cars?

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It is the private complaint of everyone, however, that the police have become impotent to suppress and detect crime. Horror stories abound. A Parisian acquaintance told me how one recent evening he had seen two criminals attack a car in which a woman was waiting for her husband. They smashed her side window and tried to grab her purse, but she resisted. My acquaintance went to her aid and managed to pin down one of the assailants, the other running off. Fortunately, some police passed by, but to my acquaintance’s dismay let the assailant go, giving him only a warning.

My acquaintance said to the police that he would make a complaint. The senior among them advised him against wasting his time. At that time of night, there would be no one to complain to in the local commissariat. He would have to go the following day and would have to wait on line for three hours. He would have to return several times, with a long wait each time. And in the end, nothing would be done.

As for the police, he added, they did not want to make an arrest in a case like this. There would be too much paperwork. And even if the case came to court, the judge would give no proper punishment. Moreover, such an arrest would retard their careers. The local police chiefs were paid by results—by the crime rates in their areas of jurisdiction. The last thing they wanted was for policemen to go around finding and recording crime.

Not long afterward, I heard of another case in which the police simply refused to record the occurrence of a burglary, much less try to catch the culprits.

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No one should underestimate the danger that this failure poses, not only for France but also for the world. The inhabitants of the cités are exceptionally well armed. When the professional robbers among them raid a bank or an armored car delivering cash, they do so with bazookas and rocket launchers, and dress in paramilitary uniforms. From time to time, the police discover whole arsenals of Kalashnikovs in the cités. There is a vigorous informal trade between France and post-communist Eastern Europe: workshops in underground garages in the cités change the serial numbers of stolen luxury cars prior to export to the East, in exchange for sophisticated weaponry.

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Boven Parijs vlogen zondagavond politiehelikopters met schijnwerpers op zoek naar brandstichters die op scooters wegvluchtten. Jongeren zeiden in interviews voor de televisie dat er een soort wedstrijd aan de gang is tussen bendes uit verschillende voorsteden om de aandacht van de media te krijgen.