Frankrijk is Burning deel V

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Op zaterdag 5 november 2005 23:12 schreef zakjapannertje het volgende:

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de Westerscheldetunnel anders ook..., die is nog niet afbetaald

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Op zaterdag 5 november 2005 23:03 schreef Meki het volgende:
ik hoop dat de rust snel terug keert

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Op zaterdag 5 november 2005 23:23 schreef Godslasteraar het volgende:

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Als de natuur nu eens een handje meehelpt en het echt vies, nat en koud rotweer wordt!

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Op zaterdag 5 november 2005 23:26 schreef Meki het volgende:


rellen gaan de tiende auto in

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PARIJS - Voor de tiende avond op rij is het tot ongeregeldheden gekomen in Parijse voorsteden met een grotendeels allochtone bevolking. Ook in steden elders in Frankrijk is het opnieuw onrustig.

Relschoppers stichtten branden in een crèche en in een basisschool in Grigny bij Parijs. In Toulouse werd een bibliotheek in brand gestoken.


Parijs

Ordetroepen meldden rond 22.00 uur een honderdtal brandstichtingen in auto's in heel Frankrijk, ook in de hoofdstad zelf. De politie pakte ongeveer tien personen op.

In verband met de rellen werd in talrijke voorsteden ten noorden van Parijs het busvervoer onderbroken. Vrijdag hadden onruststokers een molotovcocktail in een volle bus gegooid.

Moslimjongeren

De oproer volgt op de dood van twee moslimjongeren. Zij zouden op de vlucht voor de politie in een transformatorhuisje zijn geëlektrocuteerd.

De ouders van het duo riepen zaterdag de relschoppers op tot kalmte. Maar zij eisten ook excuses van de Franse staat voor de politie-inzet vorige week bij een moskee, waarbij traangas werd gebruikt.

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Op zondag 6 november 2005 01:27 schreef Steijn het volgende:
Waar blijft het leger, de politie komt duidelijk manschappen tekort? En waarom pakken ze bijna niemand op? Er moet toch een manier zijn om het in ieder geval niet nog verder uit de hand te laten lopen.

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Op zondag 6 november 2005 01:39 schreef kLowJow het volgende:

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Als je naar het aantal arrestaties en het aantal uitgebrande auto's kijkt (door heel Frankrijk) geloof ik dat het allemaal een stuk kleinschaliger is dan de berichten doen vermoeden.

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Op zondag 6 november 2005 01:53 schreef dancemacabre het volgende:

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Het is een incident, een rimpel in de multicuturele plas.

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Op zondag 6 november 2005 01:59 schreef kLowJow het volgende:
Dat lijkt me net zo naïef als over een burgeroorlog beginnen.

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Op zondag 6 november 2005 01:08 schreef dancemacabre het volgende:
De maskers vallen af.

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Op zondag 6 november 2005 02:26 schreef Ringo het volgende:

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De Eerste Europese Burgeroorlog (2005-2012). Ik voel het aan mijn litteken.

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Op zondag 6 november 2005 02:50 schreef JohnDope het volgende:

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Laten we het maar niet over rotjeknor hebben

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As rioting that began in a poor, mostly Muslim, neighborhood near Paris a week ago continues to spread to other suburbs and cities across France and parts of Europe, U.S. experts and at least one American lawmaker believe radical Islam is most likely responsible for the chaos.

And, they say, despite the characterization by several media outlets that those perpetuating the violence are primarily disaffected youth upset with French economic and social policies, the fact the unrest spread so quickly and is virtually limited to Muslim neighborhoods signifies a deeper, ideologically driven motive.

U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., in an interview with WND, said he believes the chickens are coming home to roost in France because, for years, the country with the largest Islamic population in Europe has ignored rising Muslim tensions within its own borders. The real issue the French "are now dealing with," he said, "is [that] you cannot integrate some people into your society."

Daniel Pipes, an expert on Islam and the director of the Middle East Forum, a think tank promoting American ideals in that region, thinks the riots in France are a microcosm of the larger radical Islamic goal of gaining a solid foothold in Europe.

"The great majority of Muslims in Europe see themselves as bearers of a superior civilization and see themselves growing prodigiously," he told WND. "Through a cultural, religious and demographic confidence they feel scorn towards European ways and conspire to take it over."

Lee Kaplan, spokesman for United American Committee, an organization striving to educate more Americans to the threat of radical Islam, suggested France's quest to be "evenhanded" in its dealings with its massive Muslim immigration has backfired and now reached a point where Paris has little choice but to meet the problem head-on. In an interview with WND, he suggested that " with 5 million Muslims in France the most in all of Europe," this week's chaos was inevitable.

Origin of unrest

According to earlier reports, the rioting which has seen the destruction of hundreds of vehicles, public buses and buildings began Oct. 27 after the accidental deaths of two Muslim teens. Both boys were electrocuted while hiding from police in an electrical power substation in the Paris suburb of Clichy-sous-Bois. Reports said police were in the area checking identification papers when the two boys ran away from them.

By week's end, riot police and firefighters were battling scores of Muslim rioters, some armed with weapons and Molotov cocktails. A police union official likened the violence to "civil war" in calling for the government to impose a strict curfew as French leaders vowed to restore order in the worst crisis of domestic violence in the country in decades.

As rioting exploded in France, Muslim-influenced unrest also began in Denmark, fueling further speculation that Europe is increasingly under siege by Islamic extremism. In the Danish rioting, Kaplan said, Muslim immigrant youths have even taunted authorities, saying, "This territory belongs to Islam; you don't belong here."

Much of the chaos, analysts said, is tied to the lack of Muslim integration into European society whether by design or by choice. In France and Denmark alike, many cities dominated by Islamic faithful have been deemed too dangerous for police and are, effectively, "no-go zones."

"The riots typify French reaction to Islamism and spring from a European approach to the Islamic wave of migration into Europe," according to Islam analyst Robert Spencer.

Writing in FrontPage magazine, Spencer explained, "After WWII, the French built so-called 'sink estates' for the workers they encouraged to emigrate to help rebuild the nation, as did Germany."

Most of these workers came from Turkey and colonies in North Africa.

"Instead of planning for their integration into society, however, the French allowed these communities to grow and fester in economic and social isolation," Spencer said. "After two generations, the sink estates have proven to be nothing more than preplanned ghettoes, and the workers have no future except as second-class citizens of the nations they helped rebuild from devastation."

Tancredo believes many Muslims don't want to become "European." And he says the French and Danish riots are part of a larger militant Islamic movement perpetually at odds with the West.

The French "really don't want to integrate and assimilate, I think, the Muslims into French society, but I also think the Muslims are not interested in doing that themselves," he said. "This division, this rampaging nature manifesting itself in these riots and everything else, is an example of the clash of civilizations" he believes threatens Europe and the United States.

"The rioters are part of a population that has never considered itself French," says Spencer, founder of Jihad Watch and author of "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam."

Adds Pipes, "Kids burning cars and buildings aren't specifically doing that in an attempt to 'take control.' But I do think that, ultimately, is the significance of what they're doing.

"This isn't comparable to the 1960s race riots in the U.S.," he said. "This does have, deep down, an Islamic agenda of control, even if the kids doing the rioting aren't cognizant of that" at the moment.

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Op zondag 6 november 2005 02:43 schreef jagermeister1 het volgende:
Ach man.. stel je niet aan. Zelfs al zou het zo zijn... met een beetje samenwerking heb je ze zo kapot... Moeten we alleen niet laf zijn he