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Op donderdag 25 mei 2006 13:37 schreef Ereinion het volgende:
Wordt het niet tijd een Koos Moerenhout topic te openen, nu het er meer en meer op lijkt dat hij de rechtmatige winnaar van de Vuelta van vorig jaar is?
  donderdag 25 mei 2006 @ 13:38:38 #52
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Op donderdag 25 mei 2006 13:37 schreef Ereinion het volgende:
Wordt het niet tijd een Koos Moerenhout topic te openen, nu het er meer en meer op lijkt dat hij de rechtmatige winnaar van de Vuelta van vorig jaar is?
Idd, en het Max van Heeswijk topic ff kicken aangezien hij dan een knappe derde plek zou hebben behaald.
  donderdag 25 mei 2006 @ 13:39:11 #53
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Op donderdag 25 mei 2006 13:37 schreef Ereinion het volgende:
Wordt het niet tijd een Koos Moerenhout topic te openen, nu het er meer en meer op lijkt dat hij de rechtmatige winnaar van de Vuelta van vorig jaar is?
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Op donderdag 25 mei 2006 13:39 schreef -skippybal- het volgende:

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Phonak nu
Oh ja, waar die verrassende spanjaard Guttierez nu zo leuk van rijdt in de Giro
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Op donderdag 25 mei 2006 13:40 schreef Ereinion het volgende:

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Oh ja, waar die verrassende spanjaard Guttierez nu zo leuk van rijdt in de Giro
Koos reed anders ook een aardig voorseizoen terwijl die bij Davitamon alleen op het najaar goed was
  donderdag 25 mei 2006 @ 13:47:33 #56
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Nederlanders pakken natuurlijk nooit wat, die kennen we immers van hun zwijgende interviews, met hun boomlange gestaltes gekweekt door Calve Pindakaas. Zelfs als Rooks, Winnen en Ducrot bij herhaling roepen, en Lotz het bij de supermarkt in Aken koopt, willen we het niet eens horen
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de vraagt nlijft in hoeverre dit gelinkt is aan een renner. Want een naam op een zakje sorry hoor, mss heb ik teveel films gezien maar dat is vragen om uiteindelijk gepakt te worden.

edit: blijkbaar zijn het bloedstalen. Dus is achterhaalbaar -_- my bad

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het zou dus gaan om 30 renners. Bij die 200 dus ook andere mensen, dus niet per defintie sporters laat staan wielrenners.
  donderdag 25 mei 2006 @ 14:57:19 #59
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En geruchtencircuit noemt de naam van Ullrich.
  donderdag 25 mei 2006 @ 15:02:08 #60
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El Pais artikel spreekt overigens wel over 200 wielrenners, dus niet zomaar klanten.
  donderdag 25 mei 2006 @ 15:04:09 #61
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The Civil Guard has found cards and listings with the names of near 200 cyclists in the six registries conducted during the operation sent the day before yesterday against the dopaje in the sport. The cyclists, as much Spanish as of other countries, are fitted in equipment of elite of the sport of the pedal and the image of many of them is recorded by cameras placed by the military institution before the door from the apartment to which they went for the extraction of blood. In addition, the investigators have located thousands of dose of dopantes substances, like anabolizantes-steroids, hormones and even EPO and hormones of growth of Chinese manufacture, as well as medicines of this type coming from a German hospital. The Civil Guard released yesterday with cautions to Manolo Saiz, director of the Liberty Safe, by problems of arrested hypertension and has predicted to today make judicial available to the other four.

The investigation of Unidad Central Operativa (UCO) of the Civil Guard, initiate in February last after receiving several denunciations over a plot that made illegal practices of dopaje, has put in the open a network that provided dopantes products “to sportsmen of high level”. The agents made first searches in hotels where the integral assumptions of the group lodged to verify the veracity of the denounced thing.

The agents registered sweepings of these hotels, where they found bags of empty blood and syringes. The following step was to center the places where it operated the plot. The investigators located two floors in the district of Chamberí, in the streets of Alonso Cano and Zurbano, where supposedly lengthy doctors worked both: Eufemiano Fuentes, gynecologist and personal doctor of numerous cyclists, and Jose Luis Merino Batres.

Immediately they placed cameras in the doors of those two floors, through which they could obtain images of tens of sportsmen who entered and left those floors. Only once others until in average dozen of occasions. Those images have allowed to identify known cyclists, but there are images of sportsmen whose names are ignored.

With these data, the holder of the Court of Instruction number 31 of Madrid ordered the five haltings to them executed the day before yesterday. One of first stopped was the own Manolo Saiz. This one was located in a cafeteria of the street Pío XII where it waited for Eufemiano Fuentes, that arrived at the establishment carrying a cooled stock market. The agents observed like, minutes later, was Saiz the one that left the bar with that stock market, that, among other products, took Sinactene, a type of cortisone.

The agents stopped to Saiz when she went in his car and during the registry they found in being able of the sport director 60,000 euros, in tickets of euro and in Swiss francs. Later Sources, Merino Batres, the second director of the equipment Valencian Community, Jose Ignacio Labarta, and the ex- runner of mountain bicycle were stopped Alberto Leon Herránz.

The registries depararon surprises. In a house of the street of the Fallen ones of the Blue Division, property of Sources, the agents found 1,000 doses of anabolizantes, steroids and hormones, 100 bags of blood of half liter each one and documents on dopantes practices, as well as nominal plans of treatment of cyclists. In another floor of Sources, this one in the street of Alonso Cano, was located the machinery for the processing of the blood (a criogenizadora and a centrifugal machine), two suitcases of trip with steroids and anabolizantes and another hundred of bags, this time of blood without congealing, plasma and even of EPO (obtains an effect similar to the oxygenated blood) and hormones of growth coming from China.

The Civil Guard has located during the registries cards and listings with 200 names of cyclists, whom they refuse to reveal. The consulted sources of the investigation assure that there are cyclists “of the main equipment of the Spanish elite”. Names? “It is possible to be said that they are most of the well-known ones, except for Alexander Valverde”, they responded the mentioned sources.

The judge now tries to send the data found in the located bags of blood and names to Unión Ciclista Internacional (UCI) so that this one “acts consequently”. In fact, the judge will protest to the UCI that collates the blood analyses which they take place in Spain with the data banks of blood of runners of which it arranges to see if a real correspondence between one exists and another one. No longer there will be time to adopt measures before he concludes Giro of Italy, that finalizes the Sunday that comes, but it hopes that if carries consequences for the implied ones in the Tour, since in France the consumption of oxygenated blood yes is crime.



Vertaling van het artikel.
  donderdag 25 mei 2006 @ 15:13:28 #62
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Liberty Safe cancels the contract with the cycling equipment

Updated Thursday 25/05/2006 14:51 (CET)
EFE
MADRID. - The Liberty Safe announced its decision to the past cancel the contract of sponsorship with the cycling equipment of the same name after the halting Tuesday of Manolo Saiz, sport director and majority shareholder of Activates Bay, proprietor of the equipment. Saiz was set free 24 hours after its halting.

"Like patrocinador, Liberty Safe always it has wanted that it prioritized a culture of fare-play and tolerance zero in the matter of dopaje. In November of 2005, and as a result of the suspension of a runner by dopaje, we reinforced the clauses to obtain one of more rigorous contracts of cycling sponsorship in matter antidopaje ", indicates in a Safe Liberty official notice.

According to the note, "the implications as a result of the halting of Manolo Saiz are highly worrisome: they damage our name and the name of the cycling ". Liberty Safe has notified to Activates Bay, proprietor of the equipment, "that we have cancelled our agreement of sponsorship and we will respect the financial obligations to date assumed", concludes the note.

http://elmundodeporte.elm(...)ismo/1148560932.html

Liberty Safe = Liberty Seguros (leve de vertaling!)

Einde dus voor die ploeg.
  donderdag 25 mei 2006 @ 15:19:07 #63
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Ullrich, possible implied

On the other hand, the cyclist Jan Ullrich is one of the clients of doctor Eufemiano Sources, one of the five stopped within the framework of this operation against the dopaje, according to has informed the chain To be.

Ullrich, champion of the Tour of France in 1997, is one of the clients of the network opened, according to the own transmitter, that mentions sources of the investigation.

The past Tuesday, after knowing the halting the sport director of the Liberty Safe, Manolo Saiz, and of own the Sources, the German runner had itself unmarked of the subject. "the cycling is not dirty... Always there are cases ]of doping because it is a very hard sport. It is a pain ", had declared on the matter.


http://www.elperiodico.com/default.asp?idpublicacio_PK=6&idioma=CAS&idnoticia_PK=307063&idseccio_PK=136&h=
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Dat radiostation noemde eerder ook al de naam van Basso
Die zijn duidelijk met 1 of andere heksenjacht bezig, de berichten uit Pais zijn er serieus genoeg zonder dit gedoe.
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200 sporters lijkt me logischer dan 200 wielrenners.
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in elk geval kan dit een zeer zware klap zijn voor het wielrennen als het hier gaat om grote mannen.
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Ik vroeg me al af wanneer jullie mijn cynisme gingen belonen, zie je had ik toch gelijk

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  donderdag 25 mei 2006 @ 17:12:29 #68
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Als ik de baas van Liberty was, had ik al veel eerder gestopt met al die onzin in die ploeg
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  donderdag 25 mei 2006 @ 17:58:02 #70
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Het is wachten op de eerste gelekte beelden waarbij we sporters naar binnen zien gaan bij dat appartement in Madrid.
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Er zouden volgens de vlaamse tv 4 of 5 renners uit de top 20 van de giro bij zijn!

zullen we inzetten?
ik denk iig Gutierrez...de nummer 2. En ook zijn ploegmakkers van iets verderop in het klassement
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  donderdag 25 mei 2006 @ 18:12:05 #72
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Als ik dan zou moeten speculeren :

Guttierez Cataluna
Simoni
Caruso
Piepoli
Pena
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Op donderdag 25 mei 2006 18:12 schreef Ericr het volgende:
Als ik dan zou moeten speculeren :

Guttierez Cataluna
Simoni
Caruso
Piepoli
Pena
Vila, Garate, Rubiera, José Ivan Gutierrez kunnen ook nog
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Pena denk ik ook idd
denk niet dat het Rubiera is...volgens mij gaat zoiets meer per ploeg dan per renner of land
Simoni? zou wel grappig zijn
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  donderdag 25 mei 2006 @ 18:38:04 #75
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Staat Di Luca nog in de top-20??
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