I have considered long and hard before writing you with this information. First of all, I have read, "The Biggest Secret" and enjoyed it a great deal. Thank you for the work that you do. Now, on to some interesting information for you and your readers.

In the information that you share with many people, you talk about Reptilians being attached to or actually living as members of the Ruling Elite or the Royals on this planet and within the blood lines. Well, although this is part of the story, it is in fact, a small part of the story. Although they do enjoy many of the benefits of being attached or living as ruling people upon the planet, their greatest worry are the Lightworkers, Starseeds and the volunteers who are incarnated upon this planet. For you see, they know that these people have the power to overcome anything and everything that they have worked for in the long period of time that they have been interferring here.

Collectively, we have the power to actually stop them in their collective tracks. I have been a healer for over 10 years now and have been awakened to many new healing techniques. Over the course of the last 2 years I have developed a new healing modality called the ES Healing Method. One of the things that I have discovered is that there are many everyday people, mainly lightworkers who have reptilians attached to them. Either through etheric devices or implants, or etheric small creatures.

When I say Etheric, I am referring to the 4th dimension. These reptillians have had a clear go for a long time and they are very egotistical as well as very cynical about things and this is there weakness. One of the tools that I use is toning. For you see, this can have a very intense reaction to not only their mental processes, but also to their physical bodies. And yes, they do have physical bodies.

Just recently, I have "dispatched" 4 different reptilian beings from people. One of them lost their body and another was heavily and seriously injured from the encounter with me. The other 2 "decided" to back off on their own accord and I ensured through different methods that "their" memories were wiped and that they would then forget about the people that they had been attached to. This is a highly intricate procedure because many of the devices and implants that they use on people are boobytrapped.

If someone attempts to remove it without dealing with the boobytraps, they can actually cause more problems for the person than assistance. The reptilians are working to prevent lightworkers, starseeds and volunteers from accomplishing what they have come here to do. This is one of their very high top priorities.

I am sending this because they don't think that I will. Further more, they also don't want this information getting out to people. Also, because of the work that I am doing, I am noticing that the reptilians that are attached to people are working on them on a telepathic level to attempt to have them discredit what I am doing. Only because they know that they cannot win against what is being accomplished and against those of us who are using what we have and our knowledge to defeat them. I have no malice towards the reptilians, they are serviing their own purpose, however when it gets to a point that someone comes to me because of this, it is because they are getting to the very end of their rope.

This is one aspect of what is occurring. Your readers need to be aware of this. They feed and attempt to create with those that they are attached to, judgments, ego, fear, condemnation of others, etc, etc. Mainly because it is these energetic emotions that they feed off of. This is why the masters have for so long told people to truly discern within their Heart Centre and to trust most in their Hearts, not their minds.

It is time for people to wake up. So many within the "Metaphysical or New Age" movements refuse to look at anything that could remotely be considered "dark or negative". This is in fact holding them back from allowing their True selves from fully coming in. Mainly because they are not aware of being controlled, or of being blocked on different levels, some very subtle levels.

I hope and trust that this information will be of assistance to people.

Blessings,
Makuan
Emerald Star Healing Group
http://emeraldstarhealing.tripod.com/esh.htm
www.reptilianagenda.com
www.reptoids.com

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The Biggest Secret

However, I felt that this channel was one of those who is truly gifted and a wealth of detailed information emerged that confirmed and added to my own research, which has been very much gathered in this dimension and not through channeled messages.

Anyway, here is some of the information that came through relating to the relationship between the reptilian bloodline and the Illuminati obsession with ritual. As always, the choice of what feels right is yours and yours alone:

In between "worlds"

The reptilian and other entities, which are manipulating our world by possessing "human" bodies, operate in frequencies between the Third and Fourth densities. These are referred to as "hidden spaces and planes unknown to man", in the apparently ancient Emerald Tablets, which I quote from in "Children of the Matrix". For simplicity, I refer to this "between world" in my books as the lower fourth dimension.

It is from here that they police our vibrational prison - the Matrix - and seek to addict and restrict us to the dense physical senses. This world was once far less dense than it is today and the "fall" down the frequencies, caused by the manipulation of incarnate consciousness and DNA infiltration, has made it so much more difficult to maintain a multi-dimensional connection while in physical form. We are now in a cycle of change when the vibration of this "world" will be raised out of dense physicality and return to where it once was. In doing so, the reptilians' ability to manipulate our physical form will be removed and this is why they are in such a panic at this time to prevent this shift from opening the vibrational prison door.

The reptilians and other manipulating entities exist only just outside the frequency range of our physical senses. Their own physical form has broken down and they can no longer re-produce. Thus they have sought to infiltrate human form and so use that to exist and control in this dimension. They chose the Earth for this infiltration because it most resembles in vibration the locations from which they originate. These reptilians are addicted to the dense physical "world" and the sensations it offers and they have no desire to advance higher. Their aim in this period is to stop the Earth and incarnate humanity from making the shift from dense physical prison into multi-dimensional paradise.

[From what I understand, this dense physical world is caught in a manufactured time "loop", in which "time" is a circle, constantly repeating itself. Note that one of the ancient symbols for "infinity" is the snake swallowing its own tail. The pentagram or five-pointed star, so prevalent in Satanism, is also symbolic of this unbroken "time" cycle, the vibrational prison.

The period we are now experiencing has, therefore, been played out before. We are just at that point again in the repeating circle or cycle, like a rat running on one of those wheels in a cage. No matter how fast it runs, it keeps covering the same ground. What we need to do is break the "time" circle and thus the prison. We are now in that part of the circle that is most vulnerable to this because of the vibrational changes taking place in this part of the Universe and this is why the control of humans has tightened so rapidly in this period - they are doing everything they can to defend their prison from the awakening of the inmates. The micro-chip is crucial to that.]

Genetic corruption

These reptilians and their allies have corrupted Earth DNA with their own and this genetic infiltration lies dormant until it is activated by the vibrational fields generated by the Illuminati secret society rituals, and others in the public eye like the carefully designed coronations and official ceremonies of many kinds, including even the UK State Opening of Parliament and certainly those of the various religions.

[This activation is now also being inflicted upon the general population through technology on Earth and in space, no doubt, and this channeled entity said that the cloning programme is there to develop designer bodies for the reptilians of the "in between world" that would not require the overpowering of an already incarnate consciousness.]

Once activated, the DNA opens the body to possession by these reptilians and other beings, and this is what is happening, for example, to Freemasons in the rituals that most of them deliver parrot fashion while having no idea of their vibrational significance. This is why the Illuminati are so obsessed with knowing a person's bloodline. They know which have the potential for this activation and possession and which do not. The Mormon Church genealogical data base and now the DNA data banks are designed to identify those with the bloodline. These are the people who are given jobs and roles that serve the Illuminati agenda, while most of them have no idea what is really going on and what they are being used for. Their DNA is then activated and they go through a change of character (a phrase I have heard so many times in relation to such people once they advance in the system) and a very different consciousness takes over their mental and emotional processes.

[This is why it is so important for everyone to stay well clear of ritual, no matter how innocent it may appear on the surface. I would include "New Age" ritual in this, too. I don't mean standing in a circle, connecting together and projecting loving thoughts, etc. I mean carefully constructed ritual that is constantly repeated, as with religious ceremony for example. I am beginning to realise why I have had a life-long aversion to taking part in ritual of any kind.]

Each new generation of the Illuminati bloodline families is exposed to the appropriate ritual to activate their possession by the reptilian entities and so the cycle goes on. The phrase that comes to mind is "...forgive them for they know not what they do."

P.S. Apparently, this DNA infiltration is known within the inner circles of the British royal family as the "family disease". They are actually in fear of it because they know that once it is activated they will be taken over. But of course they are caught in a world of constant ritual and ceremony designed specifically to activate their possession. It is catch 22. Without the ritual they cannot be the royal family, but with the ritual they are activated and possessed. The thought and emotional processes of the UK's Queen Mother are not those of Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, the little girl officially born into that body 101 years ago. They are controlled by the reptilian entity or entities, which possessed her after the hybrid DNA activation.

Hij wilt verwarring zaaien in deze tijden zodat zwakkere geesten (zoals barry) zijn verhalen geloven. Na een grote schare volgelingen te hebben opgebouwd, er zijn veel sukkels op deze aardkloot, zal hij hun opdracht geven bepaalde doelen van de "reptilians" te vernietigen. Echter deze "reptilians" bestaan niet, de doelen zijn normale doelen (politici e.d.), door deze op te ruimen wordt de greep van de NWO op de wereldpolitiek vergroot.

NWO = New World Order

ALIENS!

Bwaaaaahhaaaa.

Doet me een beetje denken aan V.
Zou Verbal betrokken zijn in het complot?

I WAS MARRIED TO A SHAPESHIFTER
AND THE BIGGEST SECRET IS CORRECT

Dear David

I have just been reading your remarkable book "The Biggest Secret", and feel an urge write to you with some information which may be of interest/use to you in your research.

For about 8 years it was my misfortune to be married to a woman who I discovered, not long after our marriage, to be a shape-shifting negative entity in human form. (I actually saw her shape-shift on several occasions.) From our union sprang three daughters, two of whom are of like nature to their mother. During the years of our marriage my then-wife engaged in Satanic rituals and similar practises, for the purpose of invoking and evoking negative entities of her own kind. A "side-effect" of these pernicious practises was that she drew into manifestation many entities who were eventually able to appear whenever they wished to, without having to be drawn by rituals. For me, this nightmare didn't end until we divorced in 1985.

Unable to get rid of the unwanted "visitors", I frequently spoke to them in order to determine who they were and what they wanted. These entities were cold, ruthless and without any compassion. Without exception, they all loathed and despised humans, and often spoke of a long-term agenda for taking over the planet for themselves. I found this self-declared agenda highly disturbing and worrying, but was not sure if they were telling the truth or simply winding me up out of malice. They often spoke of places such as Draco and Orion, and on several occasions I suffered encounters with an entity whom they referred to as their Leader. He was without doubt the most terrible entity with whom I have ever had contact, and he declared on one occasion that he is the one whom religious people would call Satan, the Devil.

Amongst many other things, the entities told me that they were not the only alien life-forms on this planet (many of whom, they declared, have incarnated in human form throughout the millenia in order to carry out their long-term goal.) I was told that various other aliens have incarnated here, but for other purposes.

Although full of hatred, contempt and loathing for human beings, the negative entities were surprisingly civil to me. When I once asked why this was so, I was told - much to my surprise - that it was because I am not human. "Your body is human, but your soul is not," I was told by a number of the entities. They told me that I was not one of their kind, and had nothing in common with them, but was as alien on this planet as they themselves are. I eventually discovered this to be entirely true, when I once discovered my spiritual origin.

Having read your book, many of the experiences I have had, and many things which I was told by the alien entities, make perfect sense, and are now comprehensible to me.

Name witheld at writer's request.

As to the Shapeshifters

Dear David,

Thank you for all of the information. I've learned much and I know that there can be dangers involved in exposing the powers of the world.

As to the Shapeshifters, I was a bit skeptical until I remembered a very bizarre occurence in my life. Several years ago as I slept in my bed, I was awakened by what sounded like a freight train rumbling past my ear. Suddenly a heavy weight landed on my back and a hand stared pushing my face into the pillow. I was suffocating and powerless. In desperation I voiced the name of Jesus. The power that immobilized me was broken and I was able to reach behind me and grope and grab the neck of what was sitting on me. I squeezed as hard as I could and rolled onto my back to look at what the hell this thing was. I looked into the face of a lizard-like creature. Its face had two eyes, no nose other than little slits, no lips but a slit for a mouth. I think it had bat ears but definitely had a fin on its back with scales on its face and body. I managed to grab its neck with both hands and squeeze with full power. The lizard creature grinned then disappeared.

Not too long after this incident, I walked into a neighborhood bookstore. I began looking through the religious books. Unbeknownst to me, the occult book section abutted the religious section of books and I ran accross the book called the "Necrinomicon". Out of curiosity I opened it and began to thumb thru the pages until I saw a page with a pen and ink diagram of a large, subterranean cave . In this cave were creatures under glass cases perched upon stalagmites. The creatures were the identical of what had attacked me. Identical in every feature.

Now those who have given their souls in trade for power must become possessed by a creature which is the agent of the grantor of power. The more power given, the more perfect the possession must be. Blood is the basis for materialisation of the reptilian possessor, to give it physicality. This is done during blood sacrifices. The partaker of the sacrifice may need not be present at the ritual itself but just be a member of the coven for his possessing demon to gain material power from the sacrifice. Therefore it is possible for a person to see the materialization of the possessing demon of a perfectly or near perfectly possessed man. I'm speculating on some of this because I have always been on the opposite bank of the river from Satanists, Luciferians or whatever they're calling themselves these days. I hope I haven't wasted too much of your time David. God Bless.

Sincerely - DH

P.S. I think the Lord God is beginning his cursing of the world and its inhabitants. Many must sense it for there is renewed participation in Christian things from those previously fallen away and among new converts.

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Op zaterdag 13 oktober 2001 10:39 schreef YRRAB het volgende:
Suddenly a heavy weight landed on my back and a hand stared pushing my face into the pillow. I was suffocating and powerless. In desperation I voiced the name of Jesus. The power that immobilized me was broken and I was able to reach behind me and grope and grab the neck of what was sitting on me. I squeezed as hard as I could and rolled onto my back to look at what the hell this thing was.

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I want to tell you about a friend of mine!!!

Dear David,
I realize you read thousands of email, but I feel compelled to write this to you, just as an fyi. I get the chills just thinking about this!
I became truly involved in spirituality in 1990-that is when I was introduced to the Phoenix Journals and Hatonn. I always knew that I believed in many things, but it wasn't until then I really began to delve deeper. And let me tell you, it has been an interesting 10 years! :-)
Well, in 1994, I met this guy named Shawn. As an aside, I have noticed that ever since I undertook a pledge to learn as much as I could spiritually and to empower myself and become the best being I could, certain people have been "sent" my way.

Anyhow, Shawn is my first experience with the lizard race. Shawn was odd, to say the least. But frankly, that's why I liked him.
He had a very dark side to him that he claimed was in the past, and as he always attested, he was moving toward the Light. However, our friendship fell away because that was not Truth! He said he was drawn to me because he wanted to be of the Light.
I used to stand outside at night in the country and look up at the stars, basically at the starships, and call to the Lighted Beings to communicate with me. My deep interest in extraterrestials was exceeded by Shawn's own. Then he told me something that shocked me, and I had never, at that time, heard of anything quite like it! He said that he had been abducted many times, but was on a friendly basis with the reptilian race. Now let me tell you, Shawn had amazing artistic skill and he drew them for me...my skin crawlsthinking about it.
But what was even more odd were Shawn's eyes! My mother noted it as well: his pupils were not round all the time. Quite often, they appeared like that of a cat's eye. And, excuse this bluntness, but his penis had 2 openings, and it was unlike anything I have ever seen.
He swore to having contact with 2 large reptilians as well as adamantly stating that he met with a female and male vampire. He told me that he was part vampire, and he even threatened me with harm by the vampires if I ever did anything to upset him.
Of course I was NOT afraid, because I am so very protected at all times.
But let's just say his true colors started coming through! But guess what? One night, (I dream very lucidly), I met this female vampire who attempted to attack me. The next day, Shawn called me and asked me if I had met anyone in my dream that night.
I wish I could remember the names he gave me, because he had names for all of them, the vampires and the reptilians. By the way, he actually took me to where in Pennsylvania he met the reptilians' ship!
My point in telling you all of this is that I am so flabbergasted and so thrilled to read what you have uncovered about the reptilians! Actually, this all goes deeper than I ever imagined.
I guess I better go now. I could write and write and tell you alot more things, but you have tons more email to read. Thanks for listening to me.
And thanks for the courageous work and for the willingness to step forward in Truth!
Sincerely
B

CASE FILE #34
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:41:51 -0500
Subject: [MOTU] missing car

HI,
Here is a good one for you. This is a true story. I might have told it before ,but felt I should again.

Around 1988 I had to make several trips to Pittsburgh weekly for business reasons. The road I travel was RT. 8 this road has 4-5 lanes form a town called Butler to Pittsburgh itself.
One a certain Sunday I was traveling this road by myself. It was early in the morning and I was quite tired. This road had many stop signal followed by brief areas of no turn offs.

On this certain morning I pulled up to a red light and was waiting for the light to change. As I did I saw a black limo pull up directly beside me. As I looked over at the limo I noticed that the back window started to come down. I then saw two figures in the back seat. I then notice that the limo started to pull forward although the light hadn't changed. I then saw one of the figures come closer to the back window that was down. As he did I notice that his skin was very pale in color and had a GREEN cast. He also was wearing a black hat, suit and sun glasses. He then took off his glasses and I saw the most strangest eyes I have ever seen. THEY LOOKED LIKE A REPTILE. He then motioned for me to follow him. I was totally freaked out.

I didn't know what to do. I then turned my head toward the traffic light hoping it would change. Well sure enough it did and I made a bee line to go as fast as I could to get away from this limo. As I was heading forward I looked in the rear view mirror and saw the limo coming up closer and closer towards me. I then started to go so fast I was afraid. I then looked in the rear view mirror again to see if the limo was still following me and to my surprise the limo had disappeared. There were no turn off inbetween the light that I stopped at and the next one, so there couldn't have been any place for the limo to pull over. To this day I don't know where the limo went, but oh do I still remember those EYES.

archived 10-07-99
Archive file# e100799c
donated by James Vandale

The Fascinating Case of Clarita Villanueva
In the course of years of intensive research and subsequent lecturing about the reptilian influence in the UFO phenomena, this researcher has documented hundreds of cases regarding reptilian "alien" contact. According to the statistical analysis of these reports, the reptilian species appear to be split in their attitude towards humanity.
Many reptilian "aliens" appear to people as non-emotional creatures intent on performing acts that are considered by humans as evil or malicious. Some reptilians, on the other hand, contact humans and engage in acts considered benevolent or highly spiritual. These contrasting reports indicates that, although we may live above an underground (and dimensional) domain that is managed by a primarily negative species, just as within the human race, there are some reptilians that are attempting to shift the balance of power towards a positive polarity.
When a person encounters a reptilian "alien" that displays hatred or contempt towards them, it is extremely difficult to try to get the experiencer to recognize this duality in their behavior or to accept the possibility that benevolent reptilians exist. In contrast, when an individual makes contact with a benevolent reptilian, they tend to believe that all reptilians are spiritually enlightened and welcome reptilian "alien" contact without reservation. This can be extremely dangerous to our being able to maintain an objective perspective regarding this phenomena.
This report is written for the experiencer who believes that all reptilian are beautiful and wonderful beings. Beware, they are not all alike. Some reptilians, physical or non-physical, are very evil creatures that are intent on causing physical and psychological torture. Many women and men have been their targets. Some of their victims survive to live a normal life, others endure endless days and nights of terrifying memories. If your beliefs are that the reptilians are only harbingers of beauty, love and healing, however, it is vital to your soul to read the following.
Case: Inter-dimensional Beings attacking human Female.
Subject: Clarita Villanueva, Female
Location: Manila, Philippines
Date: May, 1951
Witnesses:
Dr. Marianna Lana (Attending Physician), Arsenio Lascon (Mayor), two local constables and several newspaper reporters.
"It was a sultry May evening in 1951, and the Manila police patrols were expecting trouble. There was the smell of it in the air and it was as safe a prediction as the storm warning which was being made by the distant rumble of the approaching thunderstorm. That was why a patrol car sped instantly along the main street when they received a message that a crowd was gathering outside one of the waterfront bars. The car skidded to a stop as a terrified scream rang out. Forcing their way through the watching crowd, the constables saw a girl rolling about on the ground.
She was shouting: "Keep it away from me! Keep it away...Oh, please, won't someone help me? I can't stand the pain!"
But there was nothing anybody could do, for there was no one anywhere near the girl-yet the shocked policemen clearly saw teeth marks appearing on the girl's arms and neck. As nobody else moved to help her, the crowd just watched in superstitious honor, the constables sprang forward and carried the frantically struggling girl to the car, manacled her-and drove at top speed all the way to headquarters. All during the journey she fought against the manacles screaming and sobbing"
"Please call The Thing off. It's biting me to death. I can't stand it anymore..."
But there was little the policemen could do, in fact, there was nothing anybody at headquarters could do, but summon the police doctor. At first, they suspected that the girl, Clarita Villaneuva, had been taking drugs or drinking. But there was a more macabre, inexplicable reason for it all. A reason so fantastic that, at first it even fooled the police medical officer, Dr. Marianna Lara, who gave her one quick look and snapped: "She's having an epileptic fit."
The policemen next took Clarita to a cell, ignoring her pleas not to leave her alone. As the cell door slammed, Clarita collapsed to the floor sobering bitterly. A few minutes later, she started screaming uncontrollably and this time the two policemen came running. The distraught girl moaned to them: "The Thing is coming at me. It's coming through the cell door as if it weren't there." Whatever "It" was, looked like a man, she claimed, but it had big bulging eyes and wore a cape over it's shoulders. And it could float in mid air!
The policemen let themselves into the cell, but they could see nothing. All they could do was try to calm the girl. Yet, even as they watched, more and more bite marks began appearing on her arms. This time, the policemen decided to send for the chief of police, the mayor, and, once again, the medical officer, Dr. Lara. They arrived and everybody agreed that the bites could not possibly have been self-inflicted for no one could bite herself on the back of the shoulders. Yet Clarita clearly was being bitten there!
Eventually, the exhausted girl fell asleep and in the morning she had to appear in court to face charges of vagrancy. But just as she was being taken into the court, she screamed that "The Thing" was back. The two policemen beside her saw teeth marks, deep and painful looking on her arms, hands and neck. Several newspaper reporters, court officials and Dr. Lara also stared at them in sheer astonishment. For five terrifying minutes the attack went on until Clarita fell unconscious to the floor. Then the amazed medical officer carried out an on-the-spot examination and found himself baffled! "These bites are genuine," he told reporters. "And they are not self inflicted!"
The reporters knew they were on to a great story and rushed to catch their editions. Half-an-hour later, Mayor Arsenio Lascon arrived and spoke to Clarita, whose arms and hands were badly swollen by then. Mayor Lascon decided to ride in the ambulance with the medical officer, Lara, and see that nothing happened to the unfortunate girl. But even in the ambulance, she shouted once again that "The Thing" was after her. Only on this occasion there were two of the creatures, both with the same large, staring eyes. Both the mayor and the doctor said on oath that they watched as vicious-looking teeth marks came up on both side of the girl's throat and her hands, even as the mayor was holding them in an effort to comfort her.
It took fifteen minutes for the ambulance to reach the hospital-and to Lascon they were the longest fifteen minutes of his life. It seemed more like twenty-four hours in Hell, he said afterwards. Strangely, once the girl was in hospital, the attacks ceased and although she was guarded night and day nothing ever happened. She recovered and was released from the hospital six weeks later.
Dr. Lara, once skeptical, was now deeply interested in the case and recorded:
"What happened to Clarita Villanueva is a complete mystery, something which defies description. She was repeatedly attacked by something with invisible sharp fangs. We shall never know what it was, but I don't mind admitting that I was scared stiff." And even today, Clarita still has bite marks all over her body...evidence of the impossible was, unhappily, possible!" (A Look Through Secret Doors By John Mackim, 1969, Ace Publishing)
Notes:
Who or what was the attacker? Stories of invisible creatures viciously assaulting women are not new. It has been ongoing since time began. Clarita Villanueva described the creature as having "Large, staring eyes", the ability to move through solid matter and wearing a cape. This report is remarkably similar to those of women who claimed to have been sexually attacked by inter-dimensional reptilian beings. This case was remarkable in the fact that her attack was witnessed by so many bystanders. People who could do little else other than stand by helplessly, watching her be inflicted by unseen "large eyed" creatures who walked through walls.
Could this attack have been inflicted upon Clarita by two inter-dimensional Draco reptilian beings? Could Clarita have misidentified their retracted bat-like wings as capes during her frightful encounter? Reports of these creatures attacking animals and humans are increasing. The veiled boundary or border that separates dimensions is slowly collapsing and are we about to be invaded by something that's already here....perhaps even beside you as you read this.
www.Reptoids.com

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The veiled boundary or border that separates dimensions is slowly collapsing and are we about to be invaded by something that's already here....perhaps even beside you as you read this.

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Op zaterdag 13 oktober 2001 10:39 schreef YRRAB het volgende:
Experiences

As to the Shapeshifters

In desperation I voiced the name of Jesus. The power that immobilized me was broken and I was able to reach behind me and grope and grab the neck of what was sitting on me.

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Lang geleden woonden er ergens een koning en een koningin die heel graag een kindje wilden. Toen dat kindje eindelijk kwam, waren ze zo blij dat ze een groot feest vierden. Ze nodigden hun familie en hun vrienden uit, maar ook twaalf feeën die goede dingen konden wensen voor hun kleine meisje. Eigenlijk waren er dertien feeën, maar de koning en de koningin hadden maar twaalf gouden borden. Daarom moest de dertiende fee thuisblijven.

Het werd een prachtig feest en de feeën wensten voor het kindje alles wat er maar te wensen was. Om de beurt. Maar toen kwam opeens de dertiende fee binnen. Ze was heel boos dat ze niet was uitgenodigd. Ze kwam zich wreken. Ze riep:" Dit prinsesje zal zich, als ze vijftien jaar is, aan een spinnewiel verwonden en doodgaan!" Daarna liep de boze fee weer weg. Iedereen was vreselijk geschrokken. De twaalfde fee, die nog niet klaar was met wensen, zei: "Ik kan de vloek niet ongedaan maken, maar wel een beetje veranderen. Ze zal niet doodgaan, maar honderd jaar slapen."En de koning gebood dat alle spinnewielen in het hele rijk moesten worden verbrand.

Doornroosje groeide op tot een mooi meisje en de dag kwam dat ze vijftien jaar werd. En net op die dag dwaalde ze door het kasteel en kwam ze bij de oude toren. Ze klom de trap op en opende een deur van een vergeten zolder. Daar zat een oude vrouw vlas te spinnen op een spinnewiel. "Wat is dat voor een ding?" vroeg de prinses." Zoiets heb ik nog nooit gezien." Even raakte ze het spinnewiel aan en meteen viel ze in een diepe slaap. En de slaap trok door het hele kasteel. Alles en iedereen viel stil.

Rond het kasteel groeide een doornenhaag, die zo hoog werd dat het kasteel niet meer te zien was. Iedereen in het land kende het verhaal van de mooie slapende Doornroosje. Vaak kwamen er prinsen die het kasteel wilden binnendringen. Maar dan greep de doornenhaag hen vast en konden ze niet meer loskomen. Ze stierven jammerlijk. Op een dag kwam er weer een prins naar het kasteel. Net op die dag waren de honderd jaar verstreken. De haag bloeide met prachtige bloemen en opende zich toen de prins er aankwam. Achter zijn rug vormde zich weer een dichte doornenhaag. De prins liep door het kasteel waar alles nog stilstond. Op de vergeten zolder vond hij Doornroosje. Hij gaf haar een kus. Doornroosje deed haar ogen open en kon ze al meteen niet geloven. Wat een prachtige prins zag ze daar. Samen liepen ze weer naar beneden. Iedereen was inmiddels wakker geworden. Natuurlijk trouwde Doornroosje met de prins en natuurlijk leefden ze nog lang en gelukkig

Dornröschen
Auteur: Kai Haferkamp
Uitgegeven door Klee-Spiele, 2001
Vier Prinsen zoeken hun weg doorheen de doornstruiken om Doornroosje wakker te kussen.
Vrij vertaald in het Nederlands door Piet Notebaert (Brugge, België).
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Spelidee
De spelers nemen de rollen aan van dappere Prinsen en zoeken zich een weg doorheen de doornstruiken richting kasteel. Ze proberen doorheen de haag te klimmen om tot bij Doornroosje te raken om haar uit haar honderdjarige slaap te bevrijden.

Dat lukt door de doornstruiken zo om te draaien zodat hun rugzijde rozen tonen in dezelfde kleur als de geworpen dobbelsteen.

Spelmateriaal
1 kasteeldecor
1 bed met Doornroosje
1 trapgang
18 rozenkaarten
1 rozendoorgang
4 Prinsfiguren
24 figurenvoetjes
1 dobbelsteen
Voorbereiding
bekijk goed de tekening in het Duitse spelregelboekje

de grote kaart (kasteeldecor) wordt achterin de doos gezet
het bed van Doornroosje wordt op het terras van het kasteel geplaatst
de rozendoorgang staat aan de ingang van het pad naar het terras
voor deze rozendoorgang hangt de trap aan de doos
tussen de 18 doornstruiken zitten er twee die aan beide zijden gekleurde rozen tonen (wit-rood en paars-geel): deze beide struiken worden voor de trap geplaatst (met een beetje ruimte tussenin)
de 16 andere doornstruiken worden in vier rijen van vier opgesteld met de doornenzijde naar buiten gekeerd; de spelers moeten zodanig plaatst nemen dat ze allen naar het kasteel toekijken en de rugzijde van die doornstruiken niet kunnen zien!
elke speler kiest en Prins uit en plaatst die voor één van de struiken van de eerste rij
de rozendobbelsteen klaar leggen
Spelverloop
De jongste speler begint. Daarna gaat het in uurwijzerzin verder.

A. De Prinsen bedwingen de vier doornhagen
Komt een Prins aan de beurt, dan dobbelt hij eerst. Na deze dobbelsteenworp zijn de volgende acties mogelijk:

ROZENKLEUR
Elke speler probeert een weg doorheen die doornhagen te vinden. Daarbij kunnen zich de volgende mogelijkheden voordoen:
Als in de rij struiken waar de Prins op dat ogenblik voor staat nog geen rozenstruik in de passende kleur zichtbaar is, draait de speler één van de vier struiken om.
kleur struik = kleur dobbelsteen
de speler mag zijn Prins naar de volgende rij struiken bewegen
het rozenkaartje blijft staan (met rozenzijde naar voor)
de speler mag nog eens dobbelen en verder proberen te spelen
kleur struik past niet met kleur dobbelsteen
draai de rozenstruik terug om
je Prins blijft staan en de volgende speler komt aan de beurt
Als in de rij struiken waar de Prins op dat ogenblik voor staat wel een rozenstruik in de passende kleur zichtbaar is, mag de Prins naar de volgende rij gaan en stopt zijn speelbeurt (de Prins heeft immers geen enkele inspanning moeten leveren om doorheen die struik te komen...).

DOORNROOSJE
De Prins haast zich doorheen de doornstruiken. Hij mag naar de volgende rij stappen zonder doornstruiken om te draaien. Zijn speelbeurt eindigt en de volgende speler komt aan de beurt.
KREUPELHOUT
Wanneer hij dit kan, mag de Prins een rozenstruik naar keuze in een rij naar keuze terug omdraaien zodat de doornzijde terug naar voren staat.
Op deze wijze gaan de Prinsen doorheen de vier doornhagen totdat ze voor de eerste van de twee dubbelgekleurde rozenstruiken voor de trap staan.

B. Overwinnen van de dubbelgekleurde rozenstruiken
Staat een Prins voor een dubbelgekleurde rozenstruik dan moet hij dobbelen. Heeft hij één van beide zichtbare kleuren gedobbeld, dan mag hij naar de volgende dubbelzijdige rozenstruik stappen. Hiermee eindigt zijn beurt. Hij probeert de tweede rozenstruik overwinnen als hij terug aan de beurt komt.

Dobbelt hij geen enkele van de twee zichtbare kleuren, dan blijft hij gewoon staan en komt de volgende Prins aan de beurt.

Heeft een Prins beide dubbelzijdige rozenstruiken overwonnen, dan komt de laatste uitdaging: de rozendoorgang.

C. Doorheen de rozendoorgang naar Doornroosje
Om doorheen de rozendoorgang te kunnen stappen, moet de speler rode rozen of Doornroosje dobbelen. Als hem dat lukt, neemt de speler zijn Prins, verplaatst die doorheen de rozendoorgang en wandelt door tot hij naast het bed staat van het slapende Doornroosje. Alle rozenstruiken worden nu met hun bloeiende zijde naar voor gedraaid zodat het kasteel er weer prachtig uitziet. Deze speler is er als eerste in geslaagd om de doornhagen te overwinnen om tot bij Doornroosje te geraken. Hij heeft haar bevrijd uit haar honderdjarige slaap en wordt daardoor de winnaar van dit sprookjesspel.

Variante
Elk omgedraaid doornstruikje wordt nadat de Prins naar de volgende rij opschuift terug met de doornzijde naar voor gedraaid. Wie de plaats van elke gekleurde rozenstruik beter kan onthouden dan zijn medespelers, maakt hierdoor meer kans om doorheen de hagen te komen.

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Het sprookje
Heel lang geleden leefden er een koning en een koningin die geen kinderen konden krijgen. Dat maakte hen erg verdrietig en ze praatten er vaak over. Op ,een morgen was de koningin aan het zwemmen in de kasteelvijver, toen er een kikker naast haar opdook. Hij zei: “Lieve koningin. Ik kom u vertellen dat uw liefste wens snel in vervulling gaat. Binnenkort zult u een kindje krijgen.” De koningin keek verbaasd en blij tegelijk. Ze wilde nog van alles vragen, maar de kikker was al weg.
De kikker kreeg gelijk. Het jaar daarop kregen de koning en de koningin een dochtertje waar iedereen erg blij mee was. Voor deze gelegenheid werden er zelfs vlaggen uit gestoken. Ze wapperden vrolijk in de blauwe lucht. Ter gelegenheid hiervan gaf de koning een feestje waarbij hij niet alleen familie en vrienden uitgenodigde, maar ook de feeën uit zijn koninkrijk mochten komen. Hij liet een maaltijd bereiden door de koks van het kasteel. Er was echter een klein probleem. Er waren namelijk 13 feeën in het land en de koning had maar 12 gouden borden. Je kon het niet maken om een fee van een gewoon bord te laten eten.

Toen brak de avond van het feest aan. Er klonk overal vrolijke muziek en lakeien liepen af en aan met lekker eten. Toen de maaltijd voorbij was, werd het prinsesje in haar moeders armen gelegd. Iedereen keek vertederend toe. Het was ook wel een schatje. De feeen spraken allemaal een toverspreuk voor haar uit. Hiermee wilden ze het kind iets meegeven voor haar latere leven. De ene fee wenste schoonheid. Een andere hoopte dat het prinsesje lief zou zijn.

Zo kwamen alle feeen aan de beurt. Maar bij de twaalfde fee gebeurde er iets. Voordat zij haar wens kon doen, werd het opeens heel koud in het kasteel. In de deuropening stond de dertiende fee, die niet was uitgenodigd. Ze was woedend. “Waarom mocht ik niet komen?” riep ze. “Uit wraak wens ik haar toe dat ze sterft. Als ze vijftien wordt, prikt ze zich aan een spinnewiel. Dan zal ze sterven.”

De koningin begon te huilen. De twaalfde fee liep naar haar toe "Ik kan die wens niet ongedaan maken. Maar ik zal ervoor zorgen dat de prinses niet doodgaat. Ze zal honderd jaar slapen. Meer kan ik helaas niet doen." Maar de koning zei: "Ik wel! Ik laat alle spinnewielen verbranden." Zo gezegd, zo gedaan. Maar de koningin was er niet gerust op. Ze was bang dat er ergens nog een spinnewiel stond. De koning stelde haar gerust. Zijn soldaten hadden immers alle spinnewielen verbrand!

De jaren gingen voorbij. De prinses groeide op tot een mooi vriendelijk meisje. Toen ze vijftien jaar werd, werd er een groot feest georganiseerd. De prinses was een beetje zenuwachtig. Ze dwaalde wat rond in het kasteel. Via een wenteltrap kwam ze bij een deur. Die had ze nog nooit gezien. Ze opende de deur en zag een oud vrouwtje zitten. Het prinsesje vroeg: "Wat bent u aan het doen?" De vrouw antwoordde; "Ik ben aan het spinnen op een spinnewiel." Dat wilde het prinsesje ook een proberen. Ze wilde de spoel pakken waar de wol omheen gedraaid zit. Maar er zat een scherpe punt aan. De prinses prikte zich. Ze viel in een diepe slaap, die honderd jaar zou duren. Iedereen in het kasteel viel in slaap. Het koksmaatje, het keukenmeisje en de paarden in de stal. Spinnen, vogels, iedereen. Het werd heel stil. De rozenheg rond het kasteel groeide door. Hij werd heel hoog. Je zag niets meer van het kasteel. De meeste mensen begrepen het niet. Waarom sliep iedereen in het kasteel zolang? Soms probeerde iemand een kijkje te nemen. Ook allerlei prinsen. Zij dachten dat ze Doornroosje gemakkelijk konden bevrijden. Maar dat was nog niemand gelukt. Ze bleven allemaal hangen in de scherpe doornen van de hoge rozenheg. Zo gingen vele jaren voorbij.

Op een dag trok er weer een prins door het land. Hij hoorde het verhaal van Doornroosje. Hij werd nieuwsgierig. De prins sprong op zijn paard en ging op weg. Toen hij de hoge struiken om het kasteel zag, schrok hij wel even. Maar hij zette door. Hij wilde gaan klimmen maar dat hoefde niet meer. De rozenheg splitste zich en de prins kon zo doorlopen. Hij liep snel het kasteel binnen. Hij rende de trappen van het kasteel op en kwam bij het kleine kamertje. Toen hij de deur opengooide, lag het prinsesje daar. Haar goudblonde haar zag er prachtig uit. De prins boog zich voorover. Hij kuste haar zachte mond. Ze deed haar ogen open. Toen keken ze elkaar lachend aan. De betovering was verbroken...

Op dat moment werd iedereen wakker. De koks kneedden weer het brood. De vogels gingen verder met het zoeken van eten voor hun kinderen. De koning zei tegen zijn vrouw: "Ik ben geloof ik even weggedommeld. Laten we maar gauw opschieten. Het feest begint zo." Niemand had in de gaten dat ze al die jaren geslapen hadden.

Alle mensen liepen naar de feestzaal. Alsof er nooit iets was gebeurd. Ze namen een drankje. Je wordt namelijk nog al dorstig als je jarenlang niets drinkt. Toen kraakte de trap. Daar kwamen de prins en de prinses naar beneden. Iedereen hield zijn adem in. Sommigen verslikten zich bijna. Wat een mooi paar! Niemand was verbaasd dat de koning zei dat zijn dochter met de prins moest trouwen. Die waren voor elkaar bestemd. Het feest duurde tot in de klein uurtjes. Het was reuze-gezellig. En de boze fee? Die liet zich gelukkig nooit meer zien!

'Aantekeningen'
Dit overbekenden verhaal stamt op een of andere manier af van Perraults 'La bella au bois dormant' uit 1696.

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en wie ook nog wil kleuren kan dat HIER doen...

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Op zaterdag 13 oktober 2001 04:25 schreef YRRAB het volgende:
Information on the Reptilians
here and around planet Earth

I have considered long and hard before writing you with this information. First of all, I have read, "The Biggest Secret" and enjoyed it a great deal. Thank you for the work that you do. Now, on to some interesting information for you and your readers.

In the information that you share with many people, you talk about Reptilians being attached to or actually living as members of the Ruling Elite or the Royals on this planet and within the blood lines. Well, although this is part of the story, it is in fact, a small part of the story. Although they do enjoy many of the benefits of being attached or living as ruling people upon the planet, their greatest worry are the Lightworkers, Starseeds and the volunteers who are incarnated upon this planet. For you see, they know that these people have the power to overcome anything and everything that they have worked for in the long period of time that they have been interferring here.

Collectively, we have the power to actually stop them in their collective tracks. I have been a healer for over 10 years now and have been awakened to many new healing techniques. Over the course of the last 2 years I have developed a new healing modality called the ES Healing Method. One of the things that I have discovered is that there are many everyday people, mainly lightworkers who have reptilians attached to them. Either through etheric devices or implants, or etheric small creatures.

When I say Etheric, I am referring to the 4th dimension. These reptillians have had a clear go for a long time and they are very egotistical as well as very cynical about things and this is there weakness. One of the tools that I use is toning. For you see, this can have a very intense reaction to not only their mental processes, but also to their physical bodies. And yes, they do have physical bodies.

Just recently, I have "dispatched" 4 different reptilian beings from people. One of them lost their body and another was heavily and seriously injured from the encounter with me. The other 2 "decided" to back off on their own accord and I ensured through different methods that "their" memories were wiped and that they would then forget about the people that they had been attached to. This is a highly intricate procedure because many of the devices and implants that they use on people are boobytrapped.

If someone attempts to remove it without dealing with the boobytraps, they can actually cause more problems for the person than assistance. The reptilians are working to prevent lightworkers, starseeds and volunteers from accomplishing what they have come here to do. This is one of their very high top priorities.

I am sending this because they don't think that I will. Further more, they also don't want this information getting out to people. Also, because of the work that I am doing, I am noticing that the reptilians that are attached to people are working on them on a telepathic level to attempt to have them discredit what I am doing. Only because they know that they cannot win against what is being accomplished and against those of us who are using what we have and our knowledge to defeat them. I have no malice towards the reptilians, they are serviing their own purpose, however when it gets to a point that someone comes to me because of this, it is because they are getting to the very end of their rope.

This is one aspect of what is occurring. Your readers need to be aware of this. They feed and attempt to create with those that they are attached to, judgments, ego, fear, condemnation of others, etc, etc. Mainly because it is these energetic emotions that they feed off of. This is why the masters have for so long told people to truly discern within their Heart Centre and to trust most in their Hearts, not their minds.

It is time for people to wake up. So many within the "Metaphysical or New Age" movements refuse to look at anything that could remotely be considered "dark or negative". This is in fact holding them back from allowing their True selves from fully coming in. Mainly because they are not aware of being controlled, or of being blocked on different levels, some very subtle levels.

I hope and trust that this information will be of assistance to people.

Blessings,
Makuan
Emerald Star Healing Group
http://emeraldstarhealing.tripod.com/esh.htm
www.reptilianagenda.com
www.reptoids.com

related resources:
The Biggest Secret

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waar kan ik hier meer over vinden??????

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Op zaterdag 13 oktober 2001 04:25 schreef YRRAB het volgende:
Information on the Reptilians
here and around planet Earth

I have considered long and hard before writing you with this information. First of all, I have read, "The Biggest Secret" and enjoyed it a great deal. Thank you for the work that you do. Now, on to some interesting information for you and your readers.

In the information that you share with many people, you talk about Reptilians being attached to or actually living as members of the Ruling Elite or the Royals on this planet and within the blood lines. Well, although this is part of the story, it is in fact, a small part of the story. Although they do enjoy many of the benefits of being attached or living as ruling people upon the planet, their greatest worry are the Lightworkers, Starseeds and the volunteers who are incarnated upon this planet. For you see, they know that these people have the power to overcome anything and everything that they have worked for in the long period of time that they have been interferring here.

Collectively, we have the power to actually stop them in their collective tracks. I have been a healer for over 10 years now and have been awakened to many new healing techniques. Over the course of the last 2 years I have developed a new healing modality called the ES Healing Method. One of the things that I have discovered is that there are many everyday people, mainly lightworkers who have reptilians attached to them. Either through etheric devices or implants, or etheric small creatures.

When I say Etheric, I am referring to the 4th dimension. These reptillians have had a clear go for a long time and they are very egotistical as well as very cynical about things and this is there weakness. One of the tools that I use is toning. For you see, this can have a very intense reaction to not only their mental processes, but also to their physical bodies. And yes, they do have physical bodies.

Just recently, I have "dispatched" 4 different reptilian beings from people. One of them lost their body and another was heavily and seriously injured from the encounter with me. The other 2 "decided" to back off on their own accord and I ensured through different methods that "their" memories were wiped and that they would then forget about the people that they had been attached to. This is a highly intricate procedure because many of the devices and implants that they use on people are boobytrapped.

If someone attempts to remove it without dealing with the boobytraps, they can actually cause more problems for the person than assistance. The reptilians are working to prevent lightworkers, starseeds and volunteers from accomplishing what they have come here to do. This is one of their very high top priorities.

I am sending this because they don't think that I will. Further more, they also don't want this information getting out to people. Also, because of the work that I am doing, I am noticing that the reptilians that are attached to people are working on them on a telepathic level to attempt to have them discredit what I am doing. Only because they know that they cannot win against what is being accomplished and against those of us who are using what we have and our knowledge to defeat them. I have no malice towards the reptilians, they are serviing their own purpose, however when it gets to a point that someone comes to me because of this, it is because they are getting to the very end of their rope.

This is one aspect of what is occurring. Your readers need to be aware of this. They feed and attempt to create with those that they are attached to, judgments, ego, fear, condemnation of others, etc, etc. Mainly because it is these energetic emotions that they feed off of. This is why the masters have for so long told people to truly discern within their Heart Centre and to trust most in their Hearts, not their minds.

It is time for people to wake up. So many within the "Metaphysical or New Age" movements refuse to look at anything that could remotely be considered "dark or negative". This is in fact holding them back from allowing their True selves from fully coming in. Mainly because they are not aware of being controlled, or of being blocked on different levels, some very subtle levels.

I hope and trust that this information will be of assistance to people.

Blessings,
Makuan
Emerald Star Healing Group
http://emeraldstarhealing.tripod.com/esh.htm
www.reptilianagenda.com
www.reptoids.com

related resources:
The Biggest Secret

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Met deze vergelijking tussen het horror-verhaal en het sprookje komen we op een volgende punt dat ik hier bespreken wil. Misschien kunnen we nu de plaats van de slash 'n' stalk-film in onze folklore proberen te bepalen.

In hoeverre bijvoorbeeld kunnen we het verhaal van de Haak gelijk stellen aan het sprookje van Blauwbaard?

Volgens M.L. von Franz zijn sprookjes "een abstractie van een plaatselijke sage, gecomprimeerd en in een vorm gegoten waarin zij kunnen worden doorgegeven en beter beklijven omdat zij de mensen boeien."

De sage op zijn beurt kan gebaseerd zijn op een historische gebeurtenis of personage, zoals het geval is bij Blauwbaard.

De historische antecedent voor deze vrouwenmoordenaar ligt niet zoals vaak gedacht wordt bij Gilles de Rais, berucht satanist en kindermoordenaar (hoe hij aan de bijnaam Blauwbaard komt is volgens auteur Joris-Karl Huysmans "verloren in de nacht der tijden!"), maar bij een Bretonse koning uit de zesde eeuw met de naam Comor, bijgenaamd: de vervloekte.

Deze koning Comor is een onplezierig heerschap die zijn bruiden om het leven brengt wanneer zij zwanger worden. Aldus ontdekt ook het kersverse bruidje Triphine, dochter van de graaf van Vannes, na enkele maanden huwelijk wanneer de geesten van Comor's ex-vrouwen haar komen waarschuwen. Daar ze zelf zwanger geraakt is besluit ze het kasteel te ontvluchten. Maar haar moordlustige echtgenoot haalt haar in en snijdt haar de keel door. Gelukkig wordt Triphine weer tot leven gewekt door Sint-Gildas en vervolgens heilig verklaard.

Deze plaatselijke legende werd door Perrault bewerkt tot het overbekende sprookje van de man met de blauwe baard, het verboden torenkamertje met de bungelende lijken en het bruidje met het betoverde sleuteltje waaraan bloed kleeft.

De boodschap die Perrault in zijn verhaal verwerkte — een moralistische boodschap die in de legende niet aanwezig was — is dat de protagoniste in de problemen komt vanwege haar ongehoorzaamheid en nieuwsgierigheid. Overigens dezelfde zaken waartegen Jason Voorhees uit de talloze Friday the 13th-films en ook de moordenaar met de haak als hand op weinig zachtzinnige wijze waarschuwen.

Wat is er nu bekend over de oorsprong van het verhaal van de Haak? Clive Barker heeft zichzelf deze vraag gesteld en hem beantwoord met het al eerder genoemde The Forbidden. In dit verhaal, en ook in de film Candyman (1992) die erop gebaseerd werd, komen we de boeman met de haak als hand tegen in de vorm van de Candyman.

Het bijzondere aan dit verhaal is dat het Barker's visie biedt op het ontstaan van een modern sprookje als dat van de Haak, terwijl het tegelijkertijd zelf zo'n modern sprookje is. (Hetgeen de makers van de tweede generatie slasher-films ook proberen te doen, maar met sterk wisselende mate van succes.)

De hoofdpersone in het verhaal krijgt talloze variaties op het vaste thema voor haar kiezen. De slachtoffers kunnen variëren (dan is het een oude man in zijn flat, dan is het weer een zwakzinnige jongeman op het openbaar toilet), de verwondingen kunnen variëren (ogen uitgeprikt of gecastreerd) en soms wordt zelfs de haak ingewisseld voor een scheermes. De plaats en het tijdstip van de moorden zijn niet nader bepaald en ook de namen van de betrokkenen zijn nooit te achterhalen. (Een dergelijk gebrek aan accuraatheid zagen we ook al bij de omzetting van de Comor-legende naar het Blauwbaard-sprookje.) De details doen er niet toe, als het verhaal maar aankomt. Of om het te vertalen in de drie functies: als het verhaal ons maar waarschuwt en angst aanjaagt en ons de mogelijkheid biedt onze driften te uiten.

(Overigens biedt Barker ook nog een modern stukje folklore in de trant van de krokodillen in de riolen: er zijn pharoah-mieren uit Egypte, zo vertelt een personage, die de flats overspoelen. Maar dit terzijde.)

Lijkt me een overduidelijk gevalletje 'Mulder en Scully syndroom'.

Ook had ik i.p.v deze monstreuze letterbrij liever persoonlijk commentaar van de topic opener gezien.

Want wat is nu de bedoeling van dit topic?
Het waarschuwen van ons, gewone stervelingen (de z.g non-believers)?

Nou, ik vond het Doornroosje verhaal veel enger...
Brrrr...je prikken aan een betoverd spinnewiel.
Stel je voor dat die prins niet langs was gekomen...