Dan heb je nog een Saddam die de boel even flink opstookt en luid applaudiseerd voor het gebeurene. Neem daarbij de berichten dat de FBI toch aanwijzingen heeft dat het wel eens uit die richting kan komen en de shit is compleet.
Het zal nog wel even duren voor bekend is wie de daders exacr zijn, en waar ze vandaan komen. Het lijkt me echter wel verstandig van zekere landen in het midden oosten niet al te grote mond op te zetten als het daadwerkelijk tot een treffen komt. Want dat iemand moet branden voor deze zooi, dat is wel duidelijk. Maar stel dat ze dat wel doen, en alle frustatie van de afgelopen 40-50 jaar komt eruit, dan ben je lekker. Pakistan is al vriendelijk "verzocht" zich bij een eventueel treffen afzijdig te houden, maar die grapjassen beschikken wel over nukes.
Waarom hebben ze die klere dingen ooit uitgevonden? Tuurlijk, het beeindigde onmiddelijk de participatie van Japan aan WW II, maar is de wereld daar beter van geworden? Naar mening niet. En dan heb je noch altijd die eikels die dachten, "het kan nog gekker" en komen met de waterstofbom. Is de wereld dan suicidaal? En dan met name de westerse wereld die het toch in stand houd...
Het is een spiraal waar je maar heel moeilijk uit komt. Je kan zeggen, "cut your losses and move on", maar dat helpt ook niet. De aanslagen zullen niet stoppen. Je moet laten zien dat dit soort aanslagen op burgers gewoon niet kan.
It's never gonna end... 
Wat de Amerikaanse kranten schrijven
Thursday September 13, 2001
The Guardian
New York Times
quote:
Remember the ordinary, if you can. Remember how normal New York City seemed at sunrise yesterday, as beautiful a morning as ever dawns in early September. The polls had opened for a primary election, and if the day seemed unusual in any way, that was the reason - the collective awareness that the night would be full of numbers. Everyone was preoccupied, in just the way we usually call innocence.And by 10:30am all that had gone. Lower Manhattan had become an ashen shell of itself, all but a Pompeii under the impact of a terrorist attack involving two airliners that crashed into the World Trade Centre. In Washington, a third plane had plunged into the Pentagon. The president was for a long while out of sight, his plane seeming to hop around the middle of the country in search of security. For all Americans, the unimaginable became real.
Washington Post
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The horrific terrorist attacks yesterday in New York and Washington will rank as one of the greatest calamities in American history, and will confront the United States with one of its most demanding challenges. Not since December 7 1941 has the US homeland sustained such an aggression. The nation responded then without panic but with iron determination to defend itself and punish the aggressors. The response today must be as decisive - to the mass murderers who planned and carried out the attack, and to any nation or nations that gave them shelter and encouragement.In the past the US has shied away from squarely confronting regimes that were linked to terrorist attacks against Americans - such as Iran in the case of the 1996 Khobar towers bombing in Saudi Arabia. It can no longer afford to do so. Instead, it must seek to assemble an international alliance to identify and eliminate all sources of support for the terrorist networks that would wage war on the US. If necessary, it must act alone. There can be no greater purpose to foreign and defence policy in the coming years.
San Francisco Chronicle
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The attack calls for swift and precise retribution along with all our sympathy for the dead and injured. The heart of America's greatest city was devastated. The country's military nerve centre, the Pentagon, was heavily damaged. At least four airliners were commandeered and crashed by murderous hijackers - including a commercial plane from Newark to San Francisco. It appears that thousands of Americans were killed.The attack was as well orchestrated as it was cowardly. Today had the wrenching feel of the beginning of war. A war with an enemy that lacked the courage to identify itself.
Dallas Morning News
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During the early, dark days of the second world war, when Britain stood virtually alone against Adolf Hitler's war machine, prime minister Winston Churchill took his advisers to a bombed-out quarter of London. Several houses stood amidst the rubble. Smoke curled from the houses' chimneys. Mr Churchill pointed to the smoke and told them that it signified the indomitable spirit of the British people who were still carrying on with their lives despite daunting difficulties, fear and uncertainty. He urged them to take heart from this example of bravery.By that very same token, Americans must be united, not intimidated, by the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, in which thousands of people died. The great generosity and spirit of the American people were evident by midday as they rushed to donate blood and attended special prayer services around the country.
The Village Voice
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The assaults should force Bush to become more active in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. All through the campaign and his first months in office, Bush has insisted the US cannot force peace on the region. Now it appears he cannot keep peace in his own backyard.
Atlanta Constitution
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Some have already begun to speak of rage and revenge, but it is yet too soon for that. For now, we must take a moment or two to grieve. For all the stockbrokers and financial analysts who thought the worst thing that could happen was the dot.com bust, until they found themselves trapped in an inferno with no way out but to jump to a certain death.For all the police officers, paramedics and firefighters who ran instinctively to the scene to aid the wounded and guide the shellshocked, but who were themselves trapped beneath the rubble of buildings collapsing all around.
For all the dedicated public servants - some in military uniform, some in pinstripes - who showed up for work each day at the Pentagon to keep the nation safe from distant foes, but who never had a chance to fire a shot when they were set upon by a cowardly enemy who did not distinguish civilians from soldiers.
Seattle Times
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No living American could remember a war at home. Now we can. Already, terrorism is driving splinters between us. Should America remain true to Israel? Is this the right president for the times? Why didn't the Pentagon know this was coming? Who is to blame?Striking a balance, while striking back at our enemies, will require wisdom and strength from our leaders and ourselves. A punishing military response is predictable and necessary. No elected leadership can accept an assault such as this on a democracy and not retaliate.
LA Times
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On Tuesday, civilisation's modern nightmare materialised as terrorists attacked American cities, destroying national landmarks and exacting a terrible human toll. But even as smoke billowed across Manhattan and dust settled over Washington, this mighty nation was shaking off the massive blow.For many parents, the most indelible image will not be of a plane smashing into a building but of children's faces as they grapple with that image, one that shattered the world they thought they knew.
Wat de kranten in het Midden-Oosten schrijven
Thursday September 13, 2001
The Guardian
Jerusalem Post
quote:
Some Americans, like some Israelis, may be tempted to think about what they have done wrong, what they might have done to cause people to take so many lives along with their own.The answer is that America has been attacked not for what it has done wrong, but for what it has done right, and for being the hope of the entire world.
Gulf News, UAE
quote:
In the past America has sought vengeance ... by retaliating against sites in Libya, Afghanistan and Sudan. It was not clear at that time that America was attacking the right places, and it has become more clear with time that the sites attacked were mistakes.It is important at a time like this that America remembers its role as the world's leading power, and its commitment to justice.
Bush's intention to 'punish' should not disintegrate into plain revenge, but should incorporate justice as well. In such a search for justice, America carries the sympathy and support of the world.
Daily Star, Beirut
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In the long run, this could actually help America and all parties in the Middle East by causing them to see that they in fact have a common interest in achieving a fair and comprehensive peace ...America has been made to know the suffering that so many other countries understand all too well. Now it should lead the way in finding solutions to the problems that breed violence and desperation.
Jordan Times
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Anti-American feelings are growing worldwide because of the new US-led world order after the collapse of Soviet power.In the Middle East, US policies towards Iraq and uneven-handed stands in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict have fuelled anti-American sentiments among most social and political sectors in the Arab world.
Even traditional and loyal allies, such as Saudi Arabia, are finding it extremely difficult to continue dealing with Washington with the same cordiality.
US decision-makers should evaluate whether they have steered the world's only superpower to dominate under the insignia of justice and international legitimacy, or succumbed to short-term interests, shortsighted considerations and the power of arrogance.
Iraqi television
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The American cowboy is reaping the fruits of his crimes against humanity. It is a black day in the history of America, which is tasting the bitter defeat of its crimes and disregard for peoples' will to lead a free, decent life.The massive explosions in the centres of power in America are a painful slap in the face of US politicians to stop their illegitimate hegemony and attempts to impose custodianship on peoples.
Arab News, Saudi Arabia
quote:
If there is a Middle East connection, one can only hang one's head in despair. Whatever the resentments, this has to have been an insane - and ultimately doomed - way to combat Washington.Not only because no government, let alone a superpower, can be terrorised into changing its stance, but also because it is wrong, in the laws of God and man, to take innocent lives. None of those who died yesterday could have been responsible for the tragedies elsewhere.
Al-Akhbar, Egypt
quote:
The Americans' silence on the operation of repression, their lack of interest in what Israel is committing against an unarmed people could be the explanation for such a crazy and irresponsible act.In response to all questions about who is responsible for this tragedy ... it's Israel, for which Washington has sacrificed all its interests, all the principles of ethics and international law and all international resolutions.
quote:Dan heb je zeker niet Maarten van Rossum (Amerika-deskundige) horen praten?
Op donderdag 13 september 2001 08:30 schreef Tazzie het volgende:
Na het instellen van artikel 5 van de NATO is ook volgens deskundigen WW III wel dichterbij gekomen.
quote:Niets nieuws onder de zon dus.
In ieder geval zal de VS geen haarbreed in de weg worden gelegd bij eventuele miltaire acties.
quote:Heb je ook een eigen mening of pak je alles aan wat mensen je voorkauwen
Op donderdag 13 september 2001 08:52 schreef Claudia_x het volgende:[..]
Dan heb je zeker niet Maarten van Rossum (Amerika-deskundige) horen praten?
[..]Niets nieuws onder de zon dus.
En ja ik ben ook bang dat deze muis nog een hele lange staart zal hebben, er zullen meerdere aanslagen volgen...
quote:Gaan we persoonlijk worden?
Op donderdag 13 september 2001 08:55 schreef Bastard het volgende:[..]
Heb je ook een eigen mening of pak je alles aan wat mensen je voorkauwen
quote:Tazzie haalde letterlijk in zijn zin aan "volgens deskundigen" (zoals ik ook citeerde). Ik laat hem zien dat er ook deskundigen zijn die iets anders zeggen. Volgens mij is dat juist het tegenovergestelde van "alles aanpakken dat mensen je voorkauwen".
En ja ik ben ook bang dat deze muis nog een hele lange staart zal hebben, er zullen meerdere aanslagen volgen...
Interessant trouwens die arabsiche kranten!
quote:Ik ben met je eens dat er ook andere deskundigen zeggen dat het er niet gaat komen. Feit is dat niemand weet wat er gaat gebeuren en dat alle opties reeele opties zijn op het moment. Geen enkele optie is op dit moment meer uitgesloten door politieke of economische druk...
Op donderdag 13 september 2001 08:59 schreef Claudia_x het volgende:Tazzie haalde letterlijk in zijn zin aan "volgens deskundigen" (zoals ik ook citeerde). Ik laat hem zien dat er ook deskundigen zijn die iets anders zeggen. Volgens mij is dat juist het tegenovergestelde van "alles aanpakken dat mensen je voorkauwen".
Wil je volgende keer even checken of er niet al een topic over is voordat je deze interessante berichten plaatst. De discussie wordt zo enorm verspreid en zorgt enorm voor crossposten...
Ik zal de eerste twee berichten plaatsen in het meest relevante topic...
[Dit bericht is gewijzigd door Doc op 13-09-2001 09:31]
Liverpool - JFT 96 - Never forgotten
