Defensie part X. Jubileum!

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Op dinsdag 29 juni 2004 19:23 schreef Piro het volgende:

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Die wolk is overigens plasma.

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Op dinsdag 29 juni 2004 19:33 schreef N_I_ het volgende:

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Wat is dat?

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Op dinsdag 29 juni 2004 22:38 schreef Wuder het volgende:
Jongens, ben er weer na 4 dagen afwezigheid.. Nu ga ik eerst even uitkateren en een filmpje maken voor diploma-uitreiking, daarna ga ik weer alle topics lezen

Als iemand zin heeft om een korte samenvatting te maken van wat er allemaal besproken is

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From StrategyPage.com

Mirror, mirror, on the wall, which tank is the baddest of them all? This is a question that will touch off a major debate, particularly when one compares two tanks head-to-head. The latest such matchup is the 50-ton T-95, which is in development in Russia, versus the M1A2 Abrams, the front-line tank of the United States Army.

The T-95 is a new design. It will apparently carry a 152mm gun/missile launcher in a new turret designed to lower the silhouette even more than the current low slung T-72 series of tanks. The main gun will carry more of a punch than the 125mm gun used on current Russian tanks. This is a result of lessons learned from Desert Storm, when 125mm armor-piercing rounds bounced off M1A1 Abrams tanks, even when fired from as close as 400 meters. The other major advance will include systems designed to decoy anti-tank missiles (like the Hellfire, Javelin, and TOW). The goal is to jam the sighting systems and to confuse the aim. This also is intended to work against the sighting system for tank guns. Tanks often spend time fighting each other, and their sights work much like the sights used to target and guide anti-tank missiles. The real question is whether the T-95 will see production beyond a few prototypes. Its main competitor, the T-80UM2 “Black Eagle,” has the advantage of being cheaper and an upgrade of the T-80, which is currently in service. The T-95 will need time to have all the kinks worked out of its design. Much of that has already been done with the basic design of the T-80, and the “Black Eagle” will not need as much time to be ready for deployment. The T-95 has improved crew survivability over the T-72, T-80, and T-90 tanks that the Russians currently use, but that is really not saying much, given the fact that the T-72 and its successors provided practically nothing in that area.

That said, the Americans have not stood pat with the M1A1. The 69-ton M1A2 model is nearing ten years old. Its major changes are not in terms of the weapons (it maintains the same weapons as the M1A1: a 120mm main gun, a 12.7mm gun for the commander, and two 7.62mm machine guns – one coaxial with the main gun, the other mounted on the loader’s hatch), but instead, the M1A2 is designed to exchange information with other vehicles faster through IVIS (Inter-Vehicle Information System). IVIS allows a tank crew to find out what other tank crews are seeing, and to tell those other crews what they see. As a result, crews of the M1A2 will have a clearer picture of the battlefield than their opponents in other tanks. That pays dividends. Having a good gun is nice, but you have to know where to point it. The American crews will know faster than their opponents due to IVIS. That means they are more likely to get in the first shot. The fire-control system remains perhaps the best in the world. When an Abrams fires at a target, it is probably going to hit the target. The results will usually be fatal to its target.

The technical specifications do not tell the whole story. The real difference is made in crew quality – and American tank crews have the decided edge over their counterparts in other countries. This is due to two factors: Combat experience in two wars since 1990, and the National Training Center. The former is arguably the best teacher in the world. It brutally shows what was done right and wrong, and grading is not on a curve. The latter is the toughest training regime in the world – often American combat veterans have compared fighting in Desert Storm or Iraqi Freedom to the NTC, with the caveat that the Iraqis weren’t as good as the OPFOR (the 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment) at NTC.

The T-95, should it enter service, might have a better gun and could exceed the M1A2’s 429-kilometer range (Russian tanks usually have a range of 550-650 kilometers when equipped with extra fuel tanks), but the M1A2 is superior in most other aspects by which a tank is judged, particularly in fire control, crew survivability, the IVIS system, and since it is already in service, it has the experience edge as well. It might cost $4.3 million per tank when compared to the $1.8 million paid for each of the 320 T-80UDs Pakistan bought from the Ukraine, but the U.S. Army, in battles like 73 Easting (where Eagle Troop of the 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment under H.R. McMaster defeated the Iraqi Tawkalna Division), has proven that the M1A2 can win when badly outnumbered. The M1A2 still rules the battlefield, and will for the foreseeable future.

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Op dinsdag 29 juni 2004 23:51 schreef SHERMAN het volgende:
T-95 VS M1A2
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Op dinsdag 29 juni 2004 23:40 schreef Merkava_IV het volgende:

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Waar ben je geweest als ik vragen mag?

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En dan bedoel ik hoeveel mm ze kunnen platschieten over hoeveel m afstand.

Dat spioneren en foto's maken van nederlandse bases minder

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Op woensdag 30 juni 2004 00:36 schreef Piro het volgende:

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Think you're man enough for me?
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Ph34r!