test met 21 vragen bij welk geloof jouw opvattingen thuishoren !
ik kom volgens deze test uit de bus als een seculaire humanist.
en in onderstaande beschrijving kan ik me wel redelijk vinden.
secular humanism
- belief in deity: not considered important. most humanists are atheists or agnostics.
- incarnations: same as above.
- origins of universe/life: the scientific method is most respected as the means for revealing the mysteries of the origins of the universe and life.
- after death: an afterlife or spiritual existence after death is not recognized.
- why evil? no concept of evil. reasons for wrongdoing are explored through scientific methods, e.g. through study of sociology, psychology, criminology, etc.
- salvation: no concept of afterlife or spiritual liberation or salvation. realizing ones personal potential and working for the betterment of humanity through ethical consciousness and social works are considered paramount, but from a naturalistic rather than supernatural standpoint.
- undeserved suffering: no spiritual reasons, but rather a matter of human vulnerability to misfortune, illness, and victimization.
- contemporary issues: the american humanist association endorses elective abortion. other contemporary views include working for equality for homosexuals, gender equality, a secular approach to divorce and remarriage, working to end poverty, promoting peace and non-violence, and environmental protection.
quote:blijkbaar niet !
op zondag 9 maart 2003 23:57 schreef alien8ed het volgende:
jaja, iedereen wil op zondagavond om 23:57 snel even weten waarin hij/zij gelooft en zit nu volop vragen in te vullen.
.2. unitarian universalism (94%) click here for info
3. secular humanism (87%) click here for info
neo-pagan a community of faiths bringing ancient pagan and magickal traditions to the modern age -- including mostly wicca but also druidism, asatru, shamanism, neo-native american, etc. neo-pagan is an umbrella term for various and diverse beliefs with many elements in common. some neo-pagans find no incongruence practicing neo-paganism along with adherence to another faith, such as christianity or judaism.
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quote:morgen mag ook nog !
op zondag 9 maart 2003 23:59 schreef f1908 het volgende:
ik pas even
quote:nog een verdere beschrijving van neo-pagan ?
op maandag 10 maart 2003 00:00 schreef stranger het volgende:
1. neo-pagan (100%) click here for info
2. unitarian universalism (94%) click here for info
3. secular humanism (87%) click here for info
en bedankt voor je deelname aan dit onderzoek.
op 2 neo-pagan (97%) en op 3 unitarian universalism (94%).
2. neo-pagan (95%)
3. new age (91%)
4. theravada buddhism (87%)
5. liberal quakers (86%)
6. mahayana buddhism (82%)
7. mainline to liberal christian protestants (72%)
8. secular humanism (71%)
9. new thought (68%)
10. scientology (63%)
11. taoism (61%)
12. reform judaism (54%)
13. christian science (church of christ, scientist) (53%)
14. hinduism (50%)
15. jainism (50%)
16. sikhism (49%)
17. orthodox quaker (47%)
18. bahá'í faith (40%)
19. nontheist (39%)
20. church of jesus christ of latter-day saints (mormons) (25%)
21. jehovah's witness (25%)
22. orthodox judaism (25%)
23. mainline to conservative christian/protestant (22%)
24. seventh day adventist (20%)
25. islam (16%)
26. eastern orthodox (11%)
27. roman catholic (11%)
quote:post ook ff de beschrijving. wel leuk om te lezen. kunnen we je meteen ook beetje inschatten bij een volgende discussie op het forum.
op maandag 10 maart 2003 00:01 schreef schorpioen het volgende:
ik krijg mahayana buddhism. klopt wel aardig dacht ik zo, kan ik me best in vinden.
belief in deity: both theravada and mahayana buddhism posit no creator or ruler god. however, deity belief is present in the mahayana doctrine of the three bodies (forms) of buddha: (1) body of essence -- the indescribable, impersonal absolute reality, or ultimate truth which is nirvana (infinite bliss); (2)body of bliss or enjoyment -- buddha as divine, deity, formless, celestial spirit with saving power of grace, omnipotence, omniscience; and (3) body of transformation or emanation -- an illusion or emanation in human form provided by the divine buddha to guide humans to enlightenment. any person can potentially achieve buddhahood, transcending personality and becoming one with the impersonal ultimate reality, which is infinite bliss (nirvana). there are countless buddhas presiding over countless universes. bodhisattvas, humans and celestial spirits who sacrifice their imminent liberation (buddhahood) to help all others to become liberated, are revered or worshipped as gods or saints by some.
incarnations: the historic buddha, the person siddartha gautama, is considered by many as an emanation or illusion of the highest power (which is also called buddha). many believe there have been countless buddhas on earth.
origins of universe/life: no creator god. all matter is illusion or manifestation of the ultimate reality. generally mahayana buddhist beliefs don't find modern scientific discoveries contradictory to buddhist thought.
after death: after death: there is no transmigration of individual souls, but through the law of karma, one's wholesome or unwholesome intentions become imprinted in the mind. negative mental states persist through continual rebirth until one's intentions become wholesome. once fully enlightened, one is liberated from rebirths, reaching a state of absolute selflessness resulting in ultimate bliss called nirvana--the "deathless state". one becomes buddha (or one with buddha). some buddhists, especially modern western, don't emphasize or believe in literal rebirth.
why evil? people have freewill to commit wrongs. evil results as cravings, attachments and ignorance accumulate through perpetual rebirths, thus perpetuating greed, hatred, violence.
salvation: the goal is enlightenment, leading to nirvana, liberation from cycles of rebirth and suffering, which is life. all are already endowed with buddha nature, but need to come to fully realize that only the ultimate reality (the great "void" or "emptiness") is real (or nonconditional) and permanent. the four noble truths and eight-fold path show the way, along with worship of the essential buddha. one must work to extinguish self: all worldly cravings, desires, and attachments, through loving kindness, compassion, charity, moral conduct, wisdom and meditation. renouncing worldly possessions and goals is not necessary for the laity, if balanced. buddha taught the middle path, moderation. human and spirit world bodhisattvas are sought for help in gaining enlightenment. pure land mahayana buddhists aim to find a place of eternal nirvana in a paradisical pure land, attainable by calling out the name of the buddha ruler of the pure land.
undeserved suffering: suffering is inherent in life. suffering results from this and past life greed, hatred, and ignorance, which, unless mitigated, returns as suffering (karma). intense suffering may be viewed as the release of karma, hastening one's liberation. suffering is illusion or ignorance of one's true nature as buddha -- the blissful "void."
contemporary issues: abortion is considered murder, and all violent acts cause horrific karmic consequence. homosexuality in itself is not specifically condemned by scripture, but opinions vary, especially among various buddhist cultures -- e.g. usa buddhists are generally very accepting while asian buddhists are generally strongly opposed to homosexuality. it is believed that divorce wouldn't occur if one follows buddhist precepts, but a couple is not condemned if they separate due to vast personal differences. gender roles are generally traditional (e.g. woman as child caretakers and men as providers), but less rigid as contemporary demands are made on women (e.g. working women). nonviolence and non-injury to other life forms and to the environment are fundamental.
quote:zo ! die hebben wel wat meer tekst dan wij seculair humanisten
op maandag 10 maart 2003 00:04 schreef schorpioen het volgende:
verhaal
quote:oppervlakkig volkje, die seculair humanisten
op maandag 10 maart 2003 00:06 schreef viola_holt het volgende:[..]
zo ! die hebben wel wat meer tekst dan wij seculair humanisten
2. theravada buddhism (91%) click here for info
3. secular humanism (87%) click here for info
4. nontheist (71%) click here for info
klopt wel aardig aangezien ik mezelf een agnost vind:
unitarian universalism: a liberal and diverse religious organization comprised of mostly atheists (or non-theists), agnostics, humanists, liberal christians, jews, buddhists, hindus, neopagans, etc.
quote:beetje langdradig zijn ze, die mahayana buddhisten
op maandag 10 maart 2003 00:07 schreef schorpioen het volgende:[..]
oppervlakkig volkje, die seculair humanisten
2. unitarian universalism (91%)
3. nontheist (82%)
new thought!
quote:
- new thought an umbrella term for diverse beliefs that emphasize experiencing god's presence for practical purposes, such as healing and success. examples include unity, religious science, and divine science
- belief in deity: there exists one god -- universal mind, creative intelligence, omnipresent --- principle (not a being), impersonal force which manifests itself personally, perfectly, and equally within all.- incarnations: no particular incarnations, as god is within all equally. some believe jesus was exemplary of someone who fully realized his divine nature, and therefore is the wayshower (shows the way).
- origins of universe/life: the universe and all within it are expressions of god - the creative intelligence - with no beginning and no end.
- after death: some believe in continual rebirth as a gift from god so that all may become immortal, as was jesus christ, with each lifetime a preparation for the next. others believe the individual soul merges with the universal spirit after death.
- why evil? no original sin and no satan and no evil. people make mistakes due to ignorance of one's true nature as perfect mind and love, which is god.
- salvation: salvation lies in the realization of oneness with the impersonal life force, thus unlocking ones healing potential. licensed practitioners counsel on spiritual healing for problems of the mind, body, and life. some believe jesus is the wayshower to salvation. some believe that all, regardless of actions, will be saved by the grace of a loving and forgiving god. most believe that spiritual awareness of gods omnipresence, that god is all and all are god, leads to personal and humanitys salvation. many believe that repeated reincarnations are gods gift, each lifetime a preparation for the next, until perfection is reached, which is god.
- undeserved suffering: suffering results from ignorance of one's true nature as perfect mind and ceases with complete realization that we all are one with god, the universal mind. one can heal personal suffering through new thought practices, often with the assistance of new thought practitioners.
quote:
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2. unitarian universalism (94%)
3. nontheist (81%)
-belief in deity: the concept of a supreme, creator god is rejected or at least considered irrelevant to theravada buddhism. buddha, "the awakened one," is revered above all -- not as "god" but as supreme sage, model of a fully enlightened person. many buddhists hold that there is a spirit world with gods in the heavens, but gods are not supreme and are subject to rebirth, while only humans have the potential to attain enlightenment and reach nirvana (eternal bliss), free from rebirth. -incarnations: buddha was a human, a fully enlightened spiritual teacher and inspiration. as there no belief in or relevance to god, there are no incarnations of god worshipped.
-origins of universe/life: buddhists consider it the job of scientists to explain origins of the universe and life. many maintain that the world creates and recreates itself millions of times every fraction of a second, but there is no contradiction with scientific discovery. questions of origins are considered irrelevant to the goal of enlightenment.
-after death: there is no transmigration of individual souls, but through the law of karma, one's wholesome or unwholesome intentions become imprinted in the mind. negative mental states persist through continual rebirth until one's intentions become wholesome. once fully enlightened, one is liberated from rebirths, reaching a state of absolute selflessness resulting in ultimate bliss called nirvana--the "deathless state". one becomes buddha (or one with buddha). some buddhists, especially modern western, don't emphasize or believe in literal rebirth. belief in literal rebirth is not essential to the practice of buddhism.
-why evil? people have free will to commit wrongs or rights. evil doings may result when egoism, cravings, attachments and ignorance are expressed as greed, hatred, violence which, if unmitigated, is perpetuated through rebirth.
-salvation: enlightenment is an individual journey to nirvana (complete bliss), liberation from suffering and cycles of rebirth, by following the four noble truths and eight-fold path. to eliminate karma, which causes rebirth, one must extinguish self: all cravings, desires, and attachments. the path to enlightenment includes loving kindness and compassion, moral conduct, charity, wisdom, and meditation. attaining unnecessary worldly possessions and over-indulgence causes karma to accumulate.
-undeserved suffering: suffering is inherent in life, and the cessation of suffering is the primary goal of buddhism - to reach nirvana, to end cycles of rebirth. suffering is a result of past-life greed, hatred, and ignorance that has returned suffering (karma). compassion toward others who suffer reduces the effects of karma.
-contemporary issues: abortion is generally considered murder, and all violent acts cause horrific karmic consequence. homosexuality in itself is not specifically condemned by scripture, but opinions vary, especially among various buddhist cultures -- e.g. usa buddhists are generally very accepting while asian buddhists are generally strongly opposed to homosexuality. it is believed that divorce wouldn't occur if one follows buddhist precepts, but a couple is not condemned if they separate due to vast personal differences. gender roles are generally traditional (e.g. woman as child caretakers and men as providers), but less rigid as contemporary demands are made on women (e.g. working women). nonviolence and non-injury to other life forms and to the environment are fundamental.
quote:als je het eens bent met de kenmerken op die website is het blijkbaar helemaal niet zo origineel !
op maandag 10 maart 2003 00:11 schreef lopat het volgende:
ben ik dan de enige met een originele kijk op de wereld
new thought!
waarom staat satanic er niet bij
quote:niet echt surprising maar toch wel leuk.
your results:1. neo-pagan (100%) click here for info
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ps. welkom seriewoordenaar, toch ook de weg naar het fok wft forum gevonden
quote:mail ze even met de beschrijving van zo iemand ! dan kunnen ze hun database aanvullen.
op maandag 10 maart 2003 00:16 schreef markster het volgende:
1. nontheist (100%)
waarom staat satanic er niet bij
ik moet wel zeggen dat ik van sommige vragen weinig snapte.
quote:stond bij mij bij helemaal onderaan!
op maandag 10 maart 2003 00:21 schreef speknek het volgende:
volgens mij hebben ze wel een heel rigide blik op het rooms-katholicisme als ik zie dat ze vaak nog onder de jehova's getuigen komen.
quote:misschien als je zo rooms als de paus bent, dat je dan ook wel "erger" bent dan een jehova getuige. hij is in ieder geval vaker op televisie met z'n boodschap dan dat zij bij mij aan de deur komen !
op maandag 10 maart 2003 00:21 schreef speknek het volgende:
volgens mij hebben ze wel een heel rigide blik op het rooms-katholicisme als ik zie dat ze vaak nog onder de jehova's getuigen komen.
quote:bij mij ook. en ik ben r.k. gedoopt
op maandag 10 maart 2003 00:23 schreef schorpioen het volgende:
stond bij mij bij helemaal onderaan!
.quote:
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hm... mormonen???
heb ff de uitleg gelezen: met sommige standpunten ben ik het eens, maar met anderen niet.
testen kloppen nooit
officicieel ben ik katholiek...
en die staat helemaal onderaan
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orthodox quaker a christocentric branch (note other quaker branches: wilburites are traditional; gurneyites are progressive, evangelical, and bible-centered; hicksites and beanites are liberal, primarily in eastern usa.)
belief in deities and incarnations: there is a trinity of the father (god), the son (christ), and the holy spirit that comprises one god almighty. god is personal and incorporeal.
incarnations: jesus christ is god's only incarnation. god is manifest within all as the light. jesus possessed the light to the highest degree and is "the light" within.
origins of universe/life: the most orthodox quakers hold to authority of the bible, and the book of genesis - that god created all in less than seven days and less that 10,000 years ago. but many would maintain that a biblical "day" is not a literal 24 hours.
after death: most orthodox quakers believe in direct reward and punishment, heaven and hell, the second coming of christ and resurrection of the dead (similar to conservative christian).
why evil? some orthodox quakers adhere to similar beliefs as conservative christians - belief in original sin and satan. many believe that lack of awareness of god's divine light within, or rebellion against it, is the cause of wrongdoing, and that alienation from god leaves one vulnerable to temptation, or satan.
salvation: some friends churches include rites of baptism and communion, but sacraments to god are most often considered to arise from inward experiences, a personal encounter with god, rather than church ritual. salvation is found internally through union with christ, the divine light within all. many quaker churches, e.g. evangelical, believe similarly to conservative protestant, that salvation is a free gift from god, with faith, independent of good works. yet, moral behavior and good works are viewed as essential to showing faith and obedience to god. good works, such as humanitarian service, social justice, and peace efforts are an expression of christian love. simplicity and humility are viewed as essential to living a christian life.
undeserved suffering: the most orthodox quakers maintain that satan causes suffering. suffering is allowed by god as part of his divine will and plan. quakers focus on reducing human suffering, especially that caused by social injustice or violence.
contemporary issues: contemporary issues: social betterment programs and nonviolence are fundamental to quakerism. some orthodox quaker churches are very accepting of homosexuality and others condemn it as contrary to god's will.
om mezelf nou een quaker te noemen 
orthodox ook nog
quote:ach, wees blij dat je geen amish bent
op maandag 10 maart 2003 08:59 schreef eal het volgende:
om mezelf nou een quaker te noemen
quote:nou, daar zag ik laatst een documentaire over. als ze 16 worden mogen ze een jaar lang alles gaan doen wat god verboden heeft: roken, drank, sex, drugs, noem maar op. veel van de jongens gaan dealen om zelf drugs te kunnen kopen. echt gestoord
op maandag 10 maart 2003 09:01 schreef chrisjx het volgende:[..]
ach, wees blij dat je geen amish bent
quote:héééééj !
op maandag 10 maart 2003 09:01 schreef chrisjx het volgende:[..]
ach, wees blij dat je geen amish bent
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tja...
precies wat ik al dacht
quote:en ? tevreden met je uitslag ?
op maandag 10 maart 2003 09:29 schreef macmeester het volgende:
mmm...1. neo-pagan (100%)
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seventh day adventist
belief in deity: there is a trinity of the father, the son (christ), and the holy spirit that comprises one god almighty.
incarnations: jesus christ is god's only incarnation and is god.
origin of universe and life: the biblical book of genesis is inerrant. most hold that although the universe and our planet are ancient, god created the ordered world and all life forms in less than seven, literally twenty-four hour, days, less than 10,000 years ago -- not as claimed by modern science.
after death: death results in unconsciousness. at any time now, jesus christ will return to raise to heaven all the righteous dead and living, resurrect and destroy the wicked and satan here on earth, and then return the righteous to a paradisiacal earth for eternity with god.
why evil? original sin -- all people are inherently sinners, prone to evil and subject to satan's temptations.
salvation: salvation is only by the grace of god, through faith in jesus christ alone. but, faith must be exhibited through action: baptism (full immersion)is performed at age of accountability for those "born again" and is regarded as a demonstration of belief, a symbol of union with christ and forgiveness of sins, and reception of the holy spirit. the faithful will obey god's commandments, acknowledge and repent their sins, observe the sabbath on saturday, adhere to church moral laws, restrictions, and sacraments, including baptism and communion, care for their body as a temple of the holy spirit. living life as simply and naturally as possible away from stressful influences is encouraged. some modes of entertainment (theater, billiard rooms, dance halls, saloons, most television, movies, etc.) are avoided. home schooling is recommendeded, or nongovernment church schools.
undeserved suffering: some suffering is caused by the inheritance of mortality originating from adam and eve's disobedience to god, which includes vulnerability to illness and disease. also, satan pervades the earth, causing pain and suffering. many believe that suffering is god's design to test, teach, or strengthen belief in him; the greater the suffering of innocent believers, the greater will be their reward after life.
issues: abortion has moral consequences and should only be performed for the most serious reasons. the church acknowledges compelling reasons for a woman to choose abortion, e.g. threat to the life of the woman, rape/incest, extreme congenital abnormalities, etc. after counseling, the final decision is regarded as her own -- she is not to be coerced or condemned. homosexuality is forbidden. gender equality and womens rights are promoted, but women are not permitted at the highest levels of the church hierarchy and are generally regarded as subordinate to men. marriage is permanent and divorce only permitted on grounds of adultery/fornication,or abandonment by an unbelieving spouse, or physical violence. remarriage is only permitted if one's spouse committed adultery/fornication. working for peace is encouraged by the sda church as a christian value. many sdas refuse combat status in the armed forces, and the church urges strict control of semi- and automatic assault weapons. the church supports community activities for equal rights and justice, antipoverty, education, and the direct provision of health care facilities. the church operates a world-wide network of schools and health care institutions.
special thanks to pastor bob helm of the huntingburg and tell city seventh-day adventist churches, indiana, for his help in ensuring the accuracy of this description.
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kan wel kloppen, maar ik ben niet zo happig op dat volgelingen gedrag, dus ik "hoor" er niet bij naar mijn mening
quote:en wat komt er dan uit als je de vragen beantwoord ? of wat is jouw geloof dan ?
op maandag 10 maart 2003 12:09 schreef armanimania het volgende:
voor mijn geloof hebben ze geen benaming.....
quote:ach, iedereen heeft toch zo z'n eigen interpretaties. als het er echt omgaat heeft toch iedereen z'n eigen kleine godsdienstje.
op maandag 10 maart 2003 12:06 schreef evil_jur het volgende:
1. secular humanism (100%)kan wel kloppen, maar ik ben niet zo happig op dat volgelingen gedrag, dus ik "hoor" er niet bij naar mijn mening
quote:ik moet dat stukje text nog een beetje op me laten inwerken...
op maandag 10 maart 2003 11:38 schreef viola_holt het volgende:[..]
en ? tevreden met je uitslag ?
maar het meeste klopt wel voor mij
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unitarian universalism = a liberal and diverse religious organization comprised of mostly atheists (or non-theists), agnostics, humanists, liberal christians, jews, buddhists, hindus, neopagans, etc.
belief in deity: very diverse beliefs - unitarian universalists welcome all deity beliefs as well as nontheistic beliefs. some congregations are formed for those who share a common belief, e.g. christianity.
incarnations: very diverse beliefs, including belief in no incarnations, or that all are the embodiment of god. some believe christ is god's son, or not son but "wayshower."
origins of universe/life: diverse beliefs, but most believe in the bible as symbolic and that natural processes account for origins.
after death: diverse beliefs, but most believe that heaven and hell are not places, but are symbolic. some believe heaven and hell are states of consciousness either in life or continuing after death; some believe in reincarnation; some believe that afterlife is nonexistent or not known or not important, as actions in life are all that matter.
why evil? diverse beliefs. some believe wrong is committed when people distance themselves from god. some believe in karma, that what goes around comes around. some believe wrongdoing is a matter of human nature, psychology, sociology, etc.
salvation: some believe in salvation through faith in god and jesus christ, along with doing good works and doing no harm to others. many believe all will be saved, as god is good and forgiving. some believe in reincarnation and the necessity to eliminate personal greed or to learn all of lifes lessons before achieving enlightenment or salvation. for some, the concepts of salvation or enlightenment are irrelevant or disbelieved.
undeserved suffering: diverse beliefs. it would be a rare unitarian universalists that believes that a literal satan causes suffering. some believe suffering is part of gods plan, will, or design even if we dont immediately understand it. some dont believe in any spiritual reasons for suffering, and most take a humanistic approach to helping those in need.
contemporary issues: the unitarian universalist associations stance is to protect the personal right to choose abortion. other contemporary views include working for equality for homosexuals, gender equality, a secular approach to divorce and remarriage, working to end poverty, promoting peace and non-violence, and environmental protection.
nog even verder testje gedaan, en daar kwam wicca uit.
nou dat had ik eigenlijk ook wel verwacht (ws komt het er daarom ook uit maar dat weet je niet he...)
dus eh vanavond maar gelijk op de fiets naar de locale-wicca-club he...
a liberal and diverse religious organization comprised of mostly atheists
quote:ja, ik ga me inschrijven bij de seculaire humanisten en voortaan altijd naar de televisie kijken als het humanistisch verbond uitzendt !
op maandag 10 maart 2003 13:34 schreef dandelion het volgende:
zo... neo-pagan ook voor mij.
nog even verder testje gedaan, en daar kwam wicca uit.
nou dat had ik eigenlijk ook wel verwacht (ws komt het er daarom ook uit maar dat weet je niet he...)
dus eh vanavond maar gelijk op de fiets naar de locale-wicca-club he...
quote:nou ben nooit fanatiek gelovig geweest... wel interesse in het wicca gebeuren, maar om me naar aanleiding van zo'n testje nou gelijk fanatiek te binden...
op maandag 10 maart 2003 13:38 schreef viola_holt het volgende:[..]
ja, ik ga me inschrijven bij de seculaire humanisten en voortaan altijd naar de televisie kijken als het humanistisch verbond uitzendt !
quote:helemaal onderaan, op de 27ste plaats, staat roman catholic (9%). laat ik dat nu nét zijn
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.quote:ik zou niet meer naar die kerk gaan als ik jou was. je wordt daar blijkbaar verkeerd voorgelicht !
op maandag 10 maart 2003 15:17 schreef glacius het volgende:[..]
helemaal onderaan, op de 27ste plaats, staat roman catholic (9%). laat ik dat nu nét zijn
quote:ik kom sowieso nooit meer in de kerk
op maandag 10 maart 2003 15:22 schreef viola_holt het volgende:[..]
ik zou niet meer naar die kerk gaan als ik jou was. je wordt daar blijkbaar verkeerd voorgelicht !
.quote:maar toch ben je katholiek ? of bedoel je dat je katholiek bent opgevoed ? zo ja, ik ben "protestants" opgevoed, maar kom uit op "seculair humanism". dus maak je geen zorgen !
op maandag 10 maart 2003 15:28 schreef glacius het volgende:[..]
ik kom sowieso nooit meer in de kerk
of is dat een andere topic?
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* taoism is a 2,500+ year old spiritual practice. the main texts of taoism are the "tao te ching" (the book of the way and its power) by lao tzu and "inner chapters" by chuang tzu. similar to zen, taoism is like a "finger pointing at the moon". that is, taoism states that words are just a sign to point to the nonconceptual ultimate reality. it is of value to not obsess over the conceptual pointer but to clearly see the ultimate reality. the current write-up focuses on the so-called philosophical-spiritual taoism. there is also an indigenous variety, which has incorporated divination and alchemy, that would differ in some respects from the philosophical-spiritual taoism.
* belief in deity: the supreme being, ultimate truth is beyond words or any conceptual understanding. when asked to name it, it is referred to as tao or the way. the power of the way is referred to as te. although tao and te are similar to other practices ideas of god, taoists seldom refer to god.
* incarnations: taoism does not refer to any specific incarnation of god.
* origins of universe/life: all matter is a manifestation of the ultimate reality. generally taoist beliefs don't find modern scientific discoveries contradictory to taoist thought; hence fritjof capra's "the tao of physics" is aptly named.
* after death: death has no particular meaning to taoist.
* why evil? to understand the taoist notion of good and evil, it is important to distinguish between the "concept" of evil versus the "reality" of evil. as a concept, taoist do not hold the position of good against evil; rather they see the interdependence of all dualities. so when one labels something as an good, one automatically creates evil. that is, all concepts necessarily are based on one aspect vs another; if a concept were to have only one aspect it would be nonsensical.
* the "reality" of good and evil is that all actions contain some aspect of each. this is represented in the t'ai chi, more commonly referred to as the yin-yang symbol. any action would have some negative (yin) and some positive (yang) aspect to it. taoist believe that nature is a continual balance between yin and yang, and that any attempt to go towards one extreme or the other will be ineffective, self-defeating and short-lived. when people interfere with the natural balance by trying to impose their egoistic plans, they will not succeed; rather, the non-egoistic person allows nature to unfold watching it ebb and flow from good to bad and back again. another way of understanding this is that the sage person understands the "reality" of good and evil, whereas the fool concentrates on the "concept" of good and evil. the sage knows that any evil will soon be replaced by good, the fool is forever fruitlessly trying to eliminate evil. similar to the buddhist concept of sunyata "the void", good and evil are just empty conceptual abstractions that have no permanent independent existence.
* salvation: taoism is not a salvific practice. there is nothing that one needs to be saved from and belief in salvation would lead to belief in damnation in the same manner as belief in good leads to belief in evil. although they do not accept the false duality of salvation vs damnation, living simply in harmony with te and tao and not excessively pursing material wealth, stature or prestige will lead to a joyful life.
* contemporary issues: positions on abortion, homosexuality, divorce, and non-violence and social betterment programs are not unambiguously stated in the ancient texts. one might be able to derive a stance on these issues, but any such stance would be attenuated by the recognition that any stance is just a conceptual abstraction that has little usefulness.
taoism would see expressing traditionally male and female roles for both men and women as being in harmony. in some sects of taoism spiritual healing is practiced. protecting nature is favored, though not by laws or injunction. http://psychology.iupui.edu/tao
quote:grappig. ik geloof zelf in het 'vedisch hindoeïsme', dus simpel gezegd een 'hervorming' van het hindoeïsme en er staan 2 andere hervormingen in de top 4.
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de beschrijving van sikhisme:
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# sikhism belief in deities: god almighty is impersonal, formless ultimate reality and he is the creator, personal savior, inner teacher, omniscient, omnipotent - incorporeal.
# incarnations: god reveals and manifests himself through all in the universe, but no finite form can be worshipped as god, who is infinite. god chose to embody the divine light in the guru nanak and in 9 gurus successively and finally to the scriptures themselves, but none are to be worshipped as god(s).
# origin of the universe/life: god existed in deep meditation of the void for countless ages until deciding to create the universe and life. only god knows how and when the universe and life and the first karma were created.
# after death: one’s soul is continually reborn until liberated by the grace of god, at which time the soul merges with god (guru).
# why evil? no original sin, no satan. we are currently in the age of sin when evil is likely to flourish. humans are inherently prone to succumb to temptations. god created all, and gave people free will. evil is permitted as a test of the character of humanity and the faithfulness of evil’s victims. godless evildoers are to be avoided.
# salvation: salvation is enlightenment, granted by god’s grace only, resulting in liberation from cycles of rebirth and the soul’s merger with god (the supreme soul or guru) after death. frequent prayer, mediation, and song in praise of god, adult baptism into the khalsa brotherhood, good works (alms and free food kitchen), morality, and obeying god’s laws (divine words conveyed through 10 human gurus) demonstrate devotion and purify the soul of impurities accumulated over many prior lifetimes and of human vices: lust, anger, greed, attachment and pride (or ego).
# undeserved suffering: rebirth occurs, but one is not destined to suffer under the law of karma. suffering is not inflicted directly by god, but is permitted by god as a test of courage and faith. suffering is appreciated for the good that it often brings out in humanity, e.g. compassion. the faithful are most vulnerable to suffering at the hand of evildoers who challenge their faith. suffering is seen as the remedy and pleasure the disease.
# contemporary issues: abortion is a sin. homosexuality is not addressed in scripture, but one source indicated that it is considered as part of one's karma, and subjects the person to psychic imbalance between female and male energies, which could lead to self-destructive behaviors. gender equality is a stated position and is emphasized in practice. remarriage of widows is permitted.
quote:ja. ik ben gedoopt, heb mijn communie en vormsel gedaan.
op maandag 10 maart 2003 15:48 schreef viola_holt het volgende:
maar toch ben je katholiek ? of bedoel je dat je katholiek bent opgevoed ?
quote:maar dat je die dingen doet betekent toch niet meteen dat jouw opvattingen gelijk zijn aan die van het katholicisme ? of heb je bewust gekozen voor het katholicisme ?
op maandag 10 maart 2003 17:10 schreef glacius het volgende:[..]
ja. ik ben gedoopt, heb mijn communie en vormsel gedaan.
quote:ik had al verwacht dat buddhisme hoog zou scoren... maar unitarian universalism had ik nog nooit van gehoord.
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leuke test!
quote:nee, ouders hè.
op maandag 10 maart 2003 17:13 schreef viola_holt het volgende:[..]
maar dat je die dingen doet betekent toch niet meteen dat jouw opvattingen gelijk zijn aan die van het katholicisme ? of heb je bewust gekozen voor het katholicisme ?
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op maandag 10 maart 2003 12:13 schreef viola_holt het volgende:[..]
en wat komt er dan uit als je de vragen beantwoord ? of wat is jouw geloof dan ?
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theravada buddhism (100%) ik kan me hier wel in vinden, maar ook in dir geloof ben ik het niet met alles eens...
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neo-pagan
a community of faiths bringing ancient pagan and magickal traditions to the modern age -- including mostly wicca but also druidism, asatru, shamanism, neo-native american, etc. neo-pagan is an umbrella term for various and diverse beliefs with many elements in common. (see pagan path selector below) some neo-pagans find no incongruence practicing neo-paganism along with adherence to another faith, such as christianity or judaism.
belief in deity: some believe in a supreme being. many believe in god and goddess - a duality. many believe there are countless spirit beings, gods and goddesses, in the cosmos and within all of nature - god is all and within all; all are one god. the great mother earth, or mother nature, is highly worshipped. divinity is immanent and may become manifest within anyone at any time through various methods.
incarnations: no human incarnations are worshipped in particular, as all of nature and the universe are considered embodiments of god and goddess, or of gods and goddesses, worthy of respect, reverence or worship.
origin of universe/life: generally there is no conflict between observations revealed through science and neo-pagan beliefs on origins of the physical universe and of man. many believe in a supreme intelligence that created a duality of god/goddess who then created a spirit world of gods and goddesses as well as all of the universe and nature.
after death: many believe in reincarnation, after some rest and recovery in the otherworld. there is generally no concept of hell as a place of punishment, but some believe wrongdoing can trap the soul in state of suffering after death. some (wicca) believe the soul joins their dead ancestors who watch over and protect their family. some believe that life energy continues in some, if unknown, form. some believe in various spiritual resting places. many say we dont or cant know what happens after death.
why evil? evil is imbalance. most believe there is no evil but rather that people sometimes make mistakes. wrongdoing results when we forget we are one with the universal spirit.
salvation: the concept of salvation is essentially irrelevant; rather the belief that people can attain spiritual balance and harmony with each other and nature. the path includes group ceremonies, dances, songs/chants, prayers, meditation, trance, altered states of consciousness, the metaphysical, magic, invoking or evoking deities or spirits, tantric practices. intercessors are commonly used: psychics, seers, shamans, tarot, oui-ja board. ethical choices are influenced by belief in rebirth and karma - that one is rewarded or punished within this or after this lifetime for ones choices, and an ethical code to do no harm.
undeserved suffering: most do not believe in satan or any spirit being as the cause of suffering. some believe in karma, that choosing to live a life of wrongdoing and pain will naturally result in suffering in this or later lifetimes. many view suffering as a result of spiritual imbalance in ones life or on the planet or in the universe. the focus is generally on healing suffering rather than answering definitively why it exists.
issues: abortion choice is supported by many, but beliefs about abortion range from pro-life to pro-choice. views on divorce, homosexuality, and gender equality are generally very supportive of human differences, equality, and personal choice. many believe that involvement in community action, especially regarding environmental concerns, is integral to the belief in human interdependence and worship of the earth mother. many promote strict nonviolence to humans and animals.
quote:* viola_holt is eigenljk niet erg verrast over deze uitslag !
op maandag 10 maart 2003 19:36 schreef erodome het volgende:
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op maandag 10 maart 2003 23:19 schreef speknek het volgende:
unitarian universalism mogen ze wel weggooien, dat zegt niets. "een verzameling van iedereen", wel duh dat je daar bijhoort.
dan is beekster plebs ! klootjesvolk !
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kan me daar wel in vinden
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klopt wel, alleen hoeft het geen 100% te zijn, ligt er maar net aan in welk gedeelte van de wereld je woont. in azië is de verhouding man - vrouw toch iets anders.
quote:eh...hoe bedoel je dat ?
op dinsdag 11 maart 2003 10:01 schreef rexonium het volgende:
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klopt wel, alleen hoeft het geen 100% te zijn, ligt er maar net aan in welk gedeelte van de wereld je woont. in azië is de verhouding man - vrouw toch iets anders.
quote:nee is idd niet erg verrassend he
op maandag 10 maart 2003 23:20 schreef viola_holt het volgende:[..]
* viola_holt is eigenljk niet erg verrast over deze uitslag !
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klopt wel redelijk...
quote:ach ja, het is in elk geval een christelijk geloof waar ik op uitkom.
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ben rooms-katholiek, maar het niet eens dat slechtheid komt doordat de mens sterfelijk is geworden. ik geloof wel dat de mens sterfelijk is geworden doordat adam en eva niet van de appel af konden blijven. ik denk echter niet dat sterfelijkheid leidt tot verderfelijkheid.
bij die vraag had ik ingevuld dat de mens soms verleidingen niet kan weerstaan. (satan)
verder wijk ik af op het punt vader, zoon en heilige geest. het is wel een drieëenheid, maar voor mij toch drie aparte dingen, niet één.
schepping is imo gelijk aan de evolutie. duurde dus langer dan één week. een dag stond gelijk aan miljoenen jaren.
abortus, homofilie, echtscheiding moet allemaal kunnen.
ik besef dat ik op veel punten afwijk van wat het katholieke geloof voorschrijft, maar ik denk dat het katholicisme op sommige punten nog wel wat meer mag moderniseren. gelukkig zijn er al in sommige kerken homohuwelijken ingezegend, dus het gaat de goede kant op.
quote:dan zou je volgens die test bij nontheist uit moeten komen.
op dinsdag 11 maart 2003 13:29 schreef pianoman het volgende:
ik geloof in mezelf... mag dat ook??!!
zeker niet moeite gedaan om die test te doen?!
quote:
op dinsdag 11 maart 2003 13:29 schreef pianoman het volgende:
ik geloof in mezelf... mag dat ook??!!
quote:in het westen hebben we al wat meer emancipatie gehad, in aziatische landen zien ze de vrouw toch meer als iemand die voor de kinderen en het huis zorgt (staat ook ergens op die site daar bij de korte uitleg)
op dinsdag 11 maart 2003 12:04 schreef viola_holt het volgende:[..]
eh...hoe bedoel je dat ?
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natuurlijk, altijd al gedacht als ik nou om te beginnen de vragen eens fatsoenlijk begreep..
quote:vraag anders even aan je ouders om je te helpen
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10. orthodox quaker (63%)natuurlijk, altijd al gedacht
2. unitarian universalism (99%)
3. mahayana buddhism (88%)
4. mainline to liberal christian protestants (86%)
5. neo-pagan (85%)
6. new age (85%)
7. theravada buddhism (83%)
8. orthodox quaker (78%)
9. new thought (70%)
10. reform judaism (69%)
als ik beschrijvingen bekijk van de bovenste 2, vind ik die toch niet heel erg overeenkomen met mijn ideeen. het zijn een beetje samenraapsels van allerlei kleine religies, niet echt een duidelijk 'hokje' dus.
quote:of verkeerd ingevuld !
op woensdag 12 maart 2003 00:39 schreef semjase het volgende:
1. liberal quakers (100%)
2. unitarian universalism (99%)als ik beschrijvingen bekijk van de bovenste 2, vind ik die toch niet heel erg overeenkomen met mijn ideeen. het zijn een beetje samenraapsels van allerlei kleine religies, niet echt een duidelijk 'hokje' dus.
quote:het zijn te oppervlakkige vragen, dat ben ik met je eens
op vrijdag 14 maart 2003 22:23 schreef ds_polleke het volgende:
klopt nixx van
als je als atheist toch iets wil hebben om je door het leven te leiden (of liever gezegd: te helpen om je leven te leiden) moet je eigenlijk de filosofiën lezen en kijken welke je het meest aanspreekt en daar onderzoek naar doen
zo ben ik eik dus boeddhist geworden, door al die lijpe boekjes van m'n moeder
quote:omdat er niet uitkomt wat je gedacht had ?
op vrijdag 14 maart 2003 22:23 schreef ds_polleke het volgende:
klopt nixx van
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wel grappig, maar ja k denk dat voor de meesten mensen zo'n test toch wel een open deur iets is.
k ben een nontheist denk ik.
en ook geen uitgesproken evangelicale stromingen en dergelijke...
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3. liberal quakers (86%)
4. unitarian universalism (83%)
5. mahayana buddhism (80%)
6. eastern orthodox (77%)
7. mainline to conservative christian/protestant (77%)
8. roman catholic (77%)
9. neo-pagan (73%)
10. theravada buddhism (72%)
11. reform judaism (71%)
12. hinduism (70%)
13. new age (63%)
14. orthodox judaism (63%)
15. secular humanism (62%)
16. bahá'í faith (61%)
17. islam (61%)
18. seventh day adventist (59%)
19. sikhism (59%)
20. jainism (58%)
21. scientology (54%)
22. taoism (50%)
23. christian science (church of christ, scientist) (48%) 24. new thought (47%)
25. nontheist (35%)
26. church of jesus christ of latter-day saints (mormons) (30%)
27. jehovah's witness (24%)
hmm hoe zou de uitslag zijn als ik allevragen goed begreep:?
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8. taoism (48%)
9. new age (45%)
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11. mahayana buddhism (35%)
12. new thought (35%)
13. scientology (35%)
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16. orthodox quaker (23%)
17. bahá'í faith (20%)
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20. jainism (11%)
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26. seventh day adventist (5%)
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belief in deity: not considered important. most humanists are atheists or agnostics.
incarnations: same as above.
origins of universe/life: the scientific method is most respected as the means for revealing the mysteries of the origins of the universe and life.
after death: an afterlife or spiritual existence after death is not recognized.
why evil? no concept of evil. reasons for wrongdoing are explored through scientific methods, e.g. through study of sociology, psychology, criminology, etc.
salvation: no concept of afterlife or spiritual liberation or salvation. realizing ones personal potential and working for the betterment of humanity through ethical consciousness and social works are considered paramount, but from a naturalistic rather than supernatural standpoint.
undeserved suffering: no spiritual reasons, but rather a matter of human vulnerability to misfortune, illness, and victimization.
contemporary issues: the american humanist association endorses elective abortion. other contemporary views include working for equality for homosexuals, gender equality, a secular approach to divorce and remarriage, working to end poverty, promoting peace and non-violence, and environmental protection.
klopt precies, dat onderste verhaal.
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klopt wel aardig.
quote:voor mij klopt die beschrijving ook wel, al kan ik niet zeggen dat ik me actief inzet voor gelijkheid van homosexuelen, vrouwen etc...ben het er mee eens, maar voer geen aktie ofzo.
op zaterdag 15 maart 2003 23:35 schreef meneer_aart het volgende:
1. secular humanism (100%) belief in deity: not considered important. most humanists are atheists or agnostics.
incarnations: same as above.
origins of universe/life: the scientific method is most respected as the means for revealing the mysteries of the origins of the universe and life.
after death: an afterlife or spiritual existence after death is not recognized.
why evil? no concept of evil. reasons for wrongdoing are explored through scientific methods, e.g. through study of sociology, psychology, criminology, etc.
salvation: no concept of afterlife or spiritual liberation or salvation. realizing ones personal potential and working for the betterment of humanity through ethical consciousness and social works are considered paramount, but from a naturalistic rather than supernatural standpoint.
undeserved suffering: no spiritual reasons, but rather a matter of human vulnerability to misfortune, illness, and victimization.
contemporary issues: the american humanist association endorses elective abortion. other contemporary views include working for equality for homosexuals, gender equality, a secular approach to divorce and remarriage, working to end poverty, promoting peace and non-violence, and environmental protection.klopt precies, dat onderste verhaal.
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aardig dingetje hoor
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3. non-theist (79%)
4. liberal quakers (77%)
5. theravada buddhism (71%)
dat lijkt me dus duidelijk! kan me er ook wel in vinden, al zijn sommige vragen wel wat vaag...
eens kijken wat deze test te bieden heeft...
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hier kan ik me net iets beter in vinden,
alhoewel, liberal quakers
wel leuk zo'n test.
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ik zal me er eens in verdiepen wat het precies zegt, maar dit is mijn 'uitslag'.
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quote:heb je de beschrijving van new thought nog ? kun je die nog ff posten ? en komt het overeen met jouw religieus gevoel ?
op donderdag 8 januari 2004 15:10 schreef mariel het volgende:
gezien een andere topic deze post (blijkt dat ik nog niet eens gepost hadnew thought (100%)
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quote:omschrijving volgt hieronder. hij is op zich passend voor mij. ik heb niet de andere dingen gelezen, dus ik kan niet zeggen of het de best passende is.
op donderdag 8 januari 2004 15:17 schreef viola_holt het volgende:[..]
heb je de beschrijving van new thought nog ? kun je die nog ff posten ? en komt het overeen met jouw religieus gevoel ?
new thought an umbrella term for diverse beliefs that emphasize experiencing god's presence for practical purposes, such as healing and success. examples include unity, religious science, and divine science
belief in deity: there exists one god -- universal mind, creative intelligence, omnipresent --- principle (not a being), impersonal force which manifests itself personally, perfectly, and equally within all.
incarnations: no particular incarnations, as god is within all equally. some believe jesus was exemplary of someone who fully realized his divine nature, and therefore is the wayshower (shows the way).
origins of universe/life: the universe and all within it are expressions of god - the creative intelligence - with no beginning and no end.
after death: some believe in continual rebirth as a gift from god so that all may become immortal, as was jesus christ, with each lifetime a preparation for the next. others believe the individual soul merges with the universal spirit after death.
why evil? no original sin and no satan and no evil. people make mistakes due to ignorance of one's true nature as perfect mind and love, which is god.
salvation: salvation lies in the realization of oneness with the impersonal life force, thus unlocking ones healing potential. licensed practitioners counsel on spiritual healing for problems of the mind, body, and life. some believe jesus is the wayshower to salvation. some believe that all, regardless of actions, will be saved by the grace of a loving and forgiving god. most believe that spiritual awareness of gods omnipresence, that god is all and all are god, leads to personal and humanitys salvation. many believe that repeated reincarnations are gods gift, each lifetime a preparation for the next, until perfection is reached, which is god.
undeserved suffering: suffering results from ignorance of one's true nature as perfect mind and ceases with complete realization that we all are one with god, the universal mind. one can heal personal suffering through new thought practices, often with the assistance of new thought practitioners.
contemporary issues: there is no official doctrine on abortion; therefore, abortion is not condemned.
[dit bericht is gewijzigd door mariel op 08-01-2004 15:27]
quote:dankjewel
op donderdag 8 januari 2004 15:18 schreef mariel het volgende:[..]
omschrijving volgt hieronder. hij is op zich passend voor mij. ik heb niet de andere dingen gelezen, dus ik kan niet zeggen of het de best passende is.
je bent één van de weinige new thought-ers in dit topic
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8. secular humanism (67%)
9. hinduism (65%)
10. taoism (61%)
11. new thought (59%)
12. scientology (51%)
13. sikhism (51%)
14. christian science (church of christ, scientist) (51%)
15. reform judaism (51%)
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17. non-theist (41%)
18. orthodox quaker (36%)
19. bahá'í faith (27%)
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26. eastern orthodox (9%)
27. roman catholic (9%)
unitarian universalism is hierboven geloof ik al ergens beschreven, ik vind het een beetje vage beschrijving, 'very diverse beliefs' komt wel erg vaak voor.
ik vind het wel een grappige test, wist niet dat ik van zóveel verschillende geloven wat in me had
en als er binnenkort een jehova's getuige aan de deur komt kan ik hem in ieder geval vertellen dat ik zelf ook 18% jehova getuige ben 
(zie nr 23)
quote:ik verbaasde me er ook al over ja.
op donderdag 8 januari 2004 15:38 schreef viola_holt het volgende:[..]
dankjewel
je bent één van de weinige new thought-ers
quote:zoals je ziet...
op maandag 10 maart 2003 00:16 schreef alien8ed het volgende:
ps. welkom seriewoordenaar, toch ook de weg naar het fok wft forum gevonden
dit is best een goeie test!
alleen is uu te vaag, het lijkt meer een nieuwe newage 
ik ben zelf geinteresseerd in vajrayana (nyingma) een boeddhistische (tibetaanse) stroming die geevolueerd is uit het mahayana (en mahayana is voortgekomen uit theravada) met een nadruk op natuur (vandaar wrs. de "neo-pagan")
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12. new thought (66%)
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17. reform judaism (46%)
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24. islam (22%)
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26. roman catholic (18%)
27. jehovah's witness (15%)
ik heb idd niets met jehova's
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grappig dat quakers zo hoog komen bij mij. maar ik kan het wel vinden met de eerste mogelijkheid.
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twee jaar geleden kwam hier nog christen uit.
quote:en je hebt dezelfde antwoorden gegeven ?op maandag 5 juli 2004 11:14 schreef djaser het volgende:
twee jaar geleden kwam hier nog christen uit.
of zie ik het nou zo verkeerd?
geloof in jezus christus als degene die de hoogste macht heeft over alles en met wie ik - en nog veel meer mensen - een relatie mag hebben.
quote:er zijn meer stromingen die dat geloven. weet je tot welke je behoort?op maandag 5 juli 2004 13:33 schreef sprokkel het volgende:
zonder test:
geloof in jezus christus als degene die de hoogste macht heeft over alles en met wie ik - en nog veel meer mensen - een relatie mag hebben.
quote:das altijd zo lastig te zeggen. ik ben christen. en op t moment ben ik aangesloten bij een baptistengemeente.op maandag 5 juli 2004 13:37 schreef alicey het volgende:
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er zijn meer stromingen die dat geloven. weet je tot welke je behoort?
- maar ja..... god had al die kerkjes niet bedacht. die had alleen bedacht dat je door jezus weer een vrij mens kan worden en dat geloof ik.........
dus ....... ik behoor tot de christelijk stroming???
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mjah na alles door te hebben gelezen weet ik het eigenlijk nog niet zo.. ik vind ook niet dat ik ergens in pas en dingen me niet zo voorgeschreven kunnen worden. ik moet zelf dingen uitvinden/meemaken wil ik iets als waarheid zien.
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quote:maak anders voor de grap die test eens en laat weten hoe het afloopt..op maandag 5 juli 2004 13:43 schreef sprokkel het volgende:
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das altijd zo lastig te zeggen. ik ben christen. en op t moment ben ik aangesloten bij een baptistengemeente.
- maar ja..... god had al die kerkjes niet bedacht. die had alleen bedacht dat je door jezus weer een vrij mens kan worden en dat geloof ik.........
dus ....... ik behoor tot de christelijk stroming???
quote:nu komt eruit:1. sikhism (100%)
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4. jainism (84%)
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quote:weinig veranderd dus.1. sikhism (100%)
2. jainism (94%)
3. bahá'í faith (90%)
4. reform judaism (88%)
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6. liberal quakers (85%)
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in de top 10 alleen wat gepermuteerd.quote:nee dat uiteraard niet ik ben nogal verandert in die tijdop maandag 5 juli 2004 12:04 schreef viola_holt het volgende:
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en je hebt dezelfde antwoorden gegeven ?
dit komt er bij mij uit:
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maarja ik vind dit wel weer in \" hokjes \" indelen ik vind niet dat ik maar één bepaalde stroming ofzo aanhang, ik heb gewoon mijn eigen ideeën en dat die dan bij een bepaalde stroming \" horen \" tja... dat is dan toevallig. het is niet zo dat ik m\'n ideeën van zo\'n geloof heb, heb het allemaal zelf \" ontwikkeld \" ik moet wel zeggen dat boeddhisme en new age me wel het meest interesseren, dus de uitslag klopt wel. wat neo-pagan is heb ik eigenlijk geen idee ik ga maar eens uitzoeken wat dat zo ong. inhoud, oftewel op click here for info drukken
-edit- ja dat neo pagan kan ik me ook wel in vinden
-edit- volgens mij ben ik trouwens de eerste hier met new age bovenaan
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# incarnations: very diverse beliefs, including belief in no incarnations, or that all are the embodiment of god. some believe christ is god\'s son, or not son but \"wayshower.\"
# origins of universe/life: diverse beliefs, but most believe in the bible as symbolic and that natural processes account for origins.
# after death: diverse beliefs, but most believe that heaven and hell are not places, but are symbolic. some believe heaven and hell are states of consciousness either in life or continuing after death; some believe in reincarnation; some believe that afterlife is nonexistent or not known or not important, as actions in life are all that matter.
# why evil? diverse beliefs. some believe wrong is committed when people distance themselves from god. some believe in “karma,” that what goes around comes around. some believe wrongdoing is a matter of human nature, psychology, sociology, etc.
# salvation: some believe in salvation through faith in god and jesus christ, along with doing good works and doing no harm to others. many believe all will be saved, as god is good and forgiving. some believe in reincarnation and the necessity to eliminate personal greed or to learn all of life’s lessons before achieving enlightenment or salvation. for some, the concepts of salvation or enlightenment are irrelevant or disbelieved.
# undeserved suffering: diverse beliefs. it would be a rare unitarian universalists that believes that a literal satan causes suffering. some believe suffering is part of god’s plan, will, or design even if we don’t immediately understand it. some don’t believe in any spiritual reasons for suffering, and most take a humanistic approach to helping those in need.
# contemporary issues: the unitarian universalist association’s stance is to protect the personal right to choose abortion. other contemporary views include working for equality for homosexuals, gender equality, a secular approach to divorce and remarriage, working to end poverty, promoting peace and non-violence, and environmental protection.
[ Bericht 97% gewijzigd door BaajGuardian op 06-07-2004 01:30:43 ]
2. unitarian universalism (100%)
3. reform judaism (89%)
4. mainline - liberal christian protestants (81%)
5. theravada buddhism (72%)
klopt wel aardig als ik zo de beschrijvingen ervan lees
1. mainline - conservative christian protestant (100%)
2. church of jesus christ of latter-day saints (mormons) (99%)
3. jehovah\\\\\\\'s witness (87%)
4. orthodox quaker (84%)
5. seventh day adventist (77%)
al denk ik dat ik nooit ergens 100% in een hokje past
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2. unitarian universalism (97%)
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6. secular humanism (78%)
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neo-pagan a community of faiths bringing ancient pagan and magickal traditions to the modern age -- including mostly wicca but also druidism, asatru, shamanism, neo-native american, etc. neo-pagan is an umbrella term for various and diverse beliefs with many elements in common. (see pagan path selector below) some neo-pagans find no incongruence practicing neo-paganism along with adherence to another faith, such as christianity or judaism.
belief in deity: some believe in a supreme being. many believe in god and goddess - a duality. many believe there are countless spirit beings, gods and goddesses, in the cosmos and within all of nature - god is all and within all; all are one god. the great mother earth, or mother nature, is highly worshipped. divinity is immanent and may become manifest within anyone at any time through various methods.
incarnations: no human incarnations are worshipped in particular, as all of nature and the universe are considered embodiments of god and goddess, or of gods and goddesses, worthy of respect, reverence or worship.
origin of universe/life: generally there is no conflict between observations revealed through science and neo-pagan beliefs on origins of the physical universe and of man. many believe in a supreme intelligence that created a duality of god/goddess who then created a spirit world of gods and goddesses as well as all of the universe and nature.
after death: many believe in reincarnation, after some rest and recovery in the “otherworld.” there is generally no concept of hell as a place of punishment, but some believe wrongdoing can trap the soul in state of suffering after death. some (wicca) believe the soul joins their dead ancestors who watch over and protect their family. some believe that life energy continues in some, if unknown, form. some believe in various spiritual resting places. many say we don’t or can’t know what happens after death.
why evil? “evil” is imbalance. most believe there is no evil but rather that people sometimes make mistakes. wrongdoing results when we forget we are one with the universal spirit.
salvation: the concept of “salvation” is essentially irrelevant; rather the belief that people can attain spiritual balance and harmony with each other and nature. the path includes group ceremonies, dances, songs/chants, prayers, meditation, trance, altered states of consciousness, the metaphysical, magic, invoking or evoking deities or spirits, tantric practices. intercessors are commonly used: psychics, seers, shamans, tarot, oui-ja board. ethical choices are influenced by belief in rebirth and karma - that one is rewarded or punished within this or after this lifetime for one’s choices, and an ethical code to do no harm.
undeserved suffering: most do not believe in satan or any spirit being as the cause of suffering. some believe in karma, that choosing to live a life of wrongdoing and pain will naturally result in suffering in this or later lifetimes. many view suffering as a result of spiritual imbalance in one’s life or on the planet or in the universe. the focus is generally on healing suffering rather than answering definitively why it exists.
issues: abortion choice is supported by many, but beliefs about abortion range from “pro-life” to “pro-choice.” views on divorce, homosexuality, and gender equality are generally very supportive of human differences, equality, and personal choice. many believe that involvement in community action, especially regarding environmental concerns, is integral to the belief in human interdependence and worship of the earth mother. many promote strict nonviolence to humans and animals.
ik ben het niet met de uitslag eens...
mijn \"geloof\" staat er ook niet tussen en wat ik lees over de neo-pagan komt niet echt overeen met mijn opvattingen.
ik weet wel dat je zulke vragenlijsten meerdere keren moet doen en dan de wisselende uitslag moet vergelijken
. maar hieronder de rc-top 5 :1. new age (100%)
2. neo-pagan (90%)
3. mahayana buddhism (88%)
4. new thought (84%)
5. scientology (80%)
1. islam (100%)
2. orthodox judaism (88%)
3. sikhism (85%)
4. bahá'í faith (80%)
5. jehovah's witness (77%)
grappig
2. non-theist (95%)
3. unitarian universalism (90%)
4. theravada buddhism (70%)
5. liberal quakers (65%)
cool cool ik ook een humanist
2. non-theist (95%)
3. unitarian universalism (90%)
tussen hemel en aarde is een heleboel lucht.
/is hardcore atheist.
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wtf is theravada
of unitarian universalism
quote:er staat een link achter iedere stroming met meer informatieop donderdag 8 juli 2004 01:15 schreef steve-o het volgende:
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wtf is theravada
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quote:theravada is oldskool boeddhismeop donderdag 8 juli 2004 01:15 schreef steve-o het volgende:
wtf is theravada
dus niet de mainstream zoals men die nu kent. enkel de originele leer van de boeddha, zonder mahayana poespas.
goh, verrassend zeg...
hetgeen wel betekent dat het geen slechte test is...!
quote:de test bepaalt dan ook niet wat je bij je geboorte was, maar wat je nu bent.op donderdag 8 juli 2004 10:34 schreef pro_jeex het volgende:
beetje onzinnige test. iedere is bij/ vanaf geboorte moslim.
quote:getuige het feit dat er vrijwel niemand hier 100% moslim scoort, kan je dus wel zeggen dat allah een zooitje van z'n pr gemaakt heeftop donderdag 8 juli 2004 10:34 schreef pro_jeex het volgende:
beetje onzinnige test. iedere is bij/ vanaf geboorte moslim.
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verrassend vind ik de relatief hoge plaats van die quakers en de mainline protestanten
quote:ik ben eigenlijk geen atheist maar het geloof waar ik in geloof kwamen daar dus niet in terug want ik heb dezelfde uitslag als jou. terwijl ik toch wel in goden geloof en dat heb ik ook aangegeven in die testop donderdag 8 juli 2004 01:09 schreef janhu het volgende:
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tussen hemel en aarde is een heleboel lucht.
/is hardcore atheist.
beetje vaag.mainline - liberal christian protestants (92%)
bahá'í faith (90%)
quote:precies zoals ik denk. er is iets spiritueels in de wereld. maar het is niet de 'bijbelse god' zoals hij omschreven wordt. ook moet de bijbel symbolisch en niet letterlijk worden opgevat. eindelijk een goede test.unitarian universalism a liberal and diverse religious organization comprised of mostly atheists (or non-theists), agnostics, humanists, liberal christians, jews, buddhists, hindus, neopagans, etc.
belief in deity: very diverse beliefs - unitarian universalists welcome all deity beliefs as well as nontheistic beliefs. some congregations are formed for those who share a common belief, e.g. christianity.
incarnations: very diverse beliefs, including belief in no incarnations, or that all are the embodiment of god. some believe christ is god's son, or not son but "wayshower."
origins of universe/life: diverse beliefs, but most believe in the bible as symbolic and that natural processes account for origins.
after death: diverse beliefs, but most believe that heaven and hell are not places, but are symbolic. some believe heaven and hell are states of consciousness either in life or continuing after death; some believe in reincarnation; some believe that afterlife is nonexistent or not known or not important, as actions in life are all that matter.
why evil? diverse beliefs. some believe wrong is committed when people distance themselves from god. some believe in ?karma,? that what goes around comes around. some believe wrongdoing is a matter of human nature, psychology, sociology, etc.
salvation: some believe in salvation through faith in god and jesus christ, along with doing good works and doing no harm to others. many believe all will be saved, as god is good and forgiving. some believe in reincarnation and the necessity to eliminate personal greed or to learn all of life?s lessons before achieving enlightenment or salvation. for some, the concepts of salvation or enlightenment are irrelevant or disbelieved.
undeserved suffering: diverse beliefs. it would be a rare unitarian universalists that believes that a literal satan causes suffering. some believe suffering is part of god?s plan, will, or design even if we don?t immediately understand it. some don?t believe in any spiritual reasons for suffering, and most take a humanistic approach to helping those in need.
contemporary issues: the unitarian universalist association?s stance is to protect the personal right to choose abortion. other contemporary views include working for equality for homosexuals, gender equality, a secular approach to divorce and remarriage, working to end poverty, promoting peace and non-violence, and environmental protection.
quote:hoe krijg je dat voor elkaar? jodendom op een en islam op twee. ik vraag me af welke antwoorden je hebt gegeven om tot die uitslag te komen.op maandag 10 maart 2003 01:00 schreef k3vil het volgende:
quote:wat doen 'atheists' in een religious organisation?op dinsdag 6 juli 2004 00:56 schreef baajguardian het volgende:
# unitarian universalism a liberal and diverse religious organization comprised of mostly atheists (or non-theists),
1. secular humanism (100%)
2. unitarian universalism (95%)
3. liberal quakers (82%)
4. theravada buddhism (77%)
5. neo-pagan (73%)
6. non-theist (68%)
7. mainline - liberal christian protestants (68%)
8. new age (58%)
9. reform judaism (51%)
10. mahayana buddhism (50%)
11. taoism (50%)
12. orthodox quaker (45%)
13. bahá'í faith (39%)
14. jainism (38%)
15. sikhism (36%)
16. new thought (35%)
17. scientology (33%)
18. christian science (church of christ, scientist) (31%)
19. church of jesus christ of latter-day saints
20. hinduism (28%)
21. seventh day adventist (24%)
22. mainline - conservative christian protestant (22%)
23. islam (20%)
24. orthodox judaism (20%)
25. jehovah's witness (17%)
26. eastern orthodox (14%)
27. roman catholic (14%)
quote:ik heb veel onderzoek gedaan naar de 3 boek religies, uiteindelijk verschillen ze geen ene reet. het verschil zit em in de interpretatie, bij mij is dat verschil verdwenenop zaterdag 10 juli 2004 16:14 schreef sirbennimiles het volgende:
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hoe krijg je dat voor elkaar? jodendom op een en islam op twee. ik vraag me af welke antwoorden je hebt gegeven om tot die uitslag te komen.
quote:dat verklaart waarom je islamcritici afkraakt wegens het leveren van kritiek op kirmizibeyaz, terwijl je je ogen sluit voor zijn intolerante standpunten mbt homo's.op zaterdag 10 juli 2004 16:50 schreef k3vil het volgende:
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ik heb veel onderzoek gedaan naar de 3 boek religies, uiteindelijk verschillen ze geen ene reet. het verschil zit em in de interpretatie, bij mij is dat verschil verdwenen
quote:het is toch ook zo dat jezus zelf een jood was. hij kwam in opstand tegen de conservatieve joden en daaruit ontstond christendom. christendom en jodendom is zoiets als protestantisme en rooms katholicisme.op zaterdag 10 juli 2004 16:50 schreef k3vil het volgende:
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ik heb veel onderzoek gedaan naar de 3 boek religies, uiteindelijk verschillen ze geen ene reet. het verschil zit em in de interpretatie, bij mij is dat verschil verdwenen
alleen zie ik de islam nergens terugkomen in het plaatje.
quote:joscha (jezus) was een jood en trapte tegen de schenen van de gevestigte geestelijke orde, en die hadden toen nogal wat macht. het christendom is een product van zijn leerlingen maar vooral van paulus, de concillies..op zaterdag 10 juli 2004 17:05 schreef sirbennimiles het volgende:
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het is toch ook zo dat jezus zelf een jood was. hij kwam in opstand tegen de conservatieve joden en daaruit ontstond christendom. christendom en jodendom is zoiets als protestantisme en rooms katholicisme.
alleen zie ik de islam nergens terugkomen in het plaatje.
de islam is een religie gestoelt op de profeet mohammed, de thora en hebben ook jezus als profeet. de islam is dichterbij het jodendom dan de christenen (ongeacht de tijdsframe) omdat zij beide hetgeen(ik leg het ff niet uit) bevatten wat abraham/ibrahim had. de christenen hebben er een kennis-cultuur achtig iets omheen gebouwt en verklaren alles rationeel. de islam is meer een religie van het hart en 'geloof'. het jodendom kan je ook zo onderverdelen. zo heb je zeg maar de rationelen wat voornamelijk de askikasi zijn, en de wat abraham-achtigen die de sefardiem genoemd worden/
alle drie die religien voeren alles voornamelijk uit met handen en voeten (rituelen etc.). over het algemeen zijn ze alle drie steeds meer van hun deugdelijk periode vandaan, zowel in tijd als 'kwaliteit' (ik noem het maar ff zo). het christendom was al snel een religie waar de ratio heerst, de bloeiperiode van de islam duurde wat langer en was vooral in de 7eeuw tot ongeveer het vertrek uit spanje (saracenen). de joden hebben een grote 'klap' gehad na de verwoesting van de 2e tempel en hun wijzen werden steeds minder in aantal. de laatste groote was ar"i en dat was dacht ik in de 17e eeuw.
na woii, maar voornamelijk na 1990 zijn er veel in verval geraken. de boedhisten hebben nu juist een opbloei, vooral in het rationele westen.
belief in deity: not considered important. most humanists are atheists or agnostics.
incarnations: same as above.
origins of universe/life: the scientific method is most respected as the means for revealing the mysteries of the origins of the universe and life.
after death: an afterlife or spiritual existence after death is not recognized.
why evil? no concept of “evil.” reasons for wrongdoing are explored through scientific methods, e.g. through study of sociology, psychology, criminology, etc.
salvation: no concept of afterlife or spiritual liberation or salvation. realizing ones personal potential and working for the betterment of humanity through ethical consciousness and social works are considered paramount, but from a naturalistic rather than supernatural standpoint.
undeserved suffering: no spiritual reasons, but rather a matter of human vulnerability to misfortune, illness, and victimization.
contemporary issues: the american humanist association endorses elective abortion. other contemporary views include working for equality for homosexuals, gender equality, a secular approach to divorce and remarriage, working to end poverty, promoting peace and non-violence, and environmental protection.
1. secular humanism (100%)
2. unitarian universalism (92%)
3. non-theist (84%)
(geweldige test
)quote:op zaterdag 10 juli 2004 17:27 schreef k3vil het volgende:
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-interessant stuk tekst-
quote:tsja, helaas worden de religie's/levenswijzen uit het oosten als exotisch (lees:trendyde boedhisten hebben nu juist een opbloei, vooral in het rationele westen.
) beschouwd. maar er zijn ook steeds meer mensen die zich in het kabbala (sp??) interesseren.quote:ja maar ook daarin met handen en voeten. ingestraald water anyone? maar ondertussen wordt het wel verspreid.op zaterdag 10 juli 2004 17:39 schreef sirbennimiles het volgende:
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tsja, helaas worden de religie's/levenswijzen uit het oosten als exotisch (lees:trendy
onder de massa heerst zoetigheid en bitterheid en dat herken je ook in de religien terug, terwijl je juist in die religien waarheid en leugen zou moeten kunnen onderscheiden, en nog belangerijker, voor moeten kunnen kiezen ongeacht of het 'pijn' doet.
volgens mij bedoel je hiermee dat religieën bedoeld zijn voor moraalvorming (i love that word). ik kan je niet helemaal volgen.
quote:bij welk geloof pas jij ?op zaterdag 10 juli 2004 17:42 schreef k3vil het volgende:
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ja maar ook daarin met handen en voeten. ingestraald water anyone? maar ondertussen wordt het wel verspreid.
onder de massa heerst zoetigheid en bitterheid en dat herken je ook in de religien terug, terwijl je juist in die religien waarheid en leugen zou moeten kunnen onderscheiden, en nog belangerijker, voor moeten kunnen kiezen ongeacht of het 'pijn' doet.
kun je hier nog op reageren?
quote:dat is zijn gebrek, en het is ook nodig voor hem.op zaterdag 10 juli 2004 16:53 schreef dora_van_crizadak het volgende:
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dat verklaart waarom je islamcritici afkraakt wegens het leveren van kritiek op kirmizibeyaz, terwijl je je ogen sluit voor zijn intolerante standpunten mbt homo's.
zelfde geld voor jouw
quote:ook moraal en ethiek vallen onder zoet/bitter. een mens heeft namelijk een richtpunt nodig waardoor hij/zij over zichzelf kan zeggen dat hij/zij 'goed' of 'slecht' is ("hoe goed ik wel niet ben" of "hoe slecht ik wel niet ben", "ik" "ik" "ik"). een mens heeft een kader nodig anders valt die in verwarring, is het hem/haar gewoon niet duidelijk. ieder kent een moraal, dat zit gewoon in je opvoeding.op zaterdag 10 juli 2004 17:47 schreef sirbennimiles het volgende:
onder de massa heerst zoetigheid en bitterheid en dat herken je ook in de religien terug, terwijl je juist in die religien waarheid en leugen zou moeten kunnen onderscheiden, en nog belangerijker, voor moeten kunnen kiezen ongeacht of het 'pijn' doet.
volgens mij bedoel je hiermee dat religieën bedoeld zijn voor moraalvorming (i love that word). ik kan je niet helemaal volgen.
tuurlijk zit moraal dichtbij, en zijn er kiemen te vinden voor het hogere. maar hoe de mens er gebruik van maakt , daar draait het om. toch hoort het allemaal bij de ontwikkeling van de mensheid, en nu vanaf vooral rond 1990 is er een verandering opgetreden. moraal doet het gewoon niet meer, 'goederikken'-gedrag wordt gewoon op gekots, en dat is maar als te goed zo.
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quote:toch een beetje vreemd, want voor hem neem je het wel op. mij kraken jij en je gelijkgestemden 'at every turn' af, waar ik overigens geen bezwaar tegen heb. echter, als ik kb afkraak, spring je gelijk in het midden om het op te nemen voor hem.op zaterdag 10 juli 2004 18:00 schreef k3vil het volgende:
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dat is zijn gebrek, en het is ook nodig voor hem.
zelfde geld voor jouw
quote:ja, want ik heb een zwak voor moslimsop zaterdag 10 juli 2004 18:03 schreef dora_van_crizadak het volgende:
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toch een beetje vreemd, want voor hem neem je het wel op. mij kraken jij en je gelijkgestemden 'at every turn' af, waar ik overigens geen bezwaar tegen heb. echter, als ik kb afkraak, spring je gelijk in het midden om het op te nemen voor hem.
maar niettemin heb je gelijk wat betreft hetgene jij steeds als kritiekpunten aanhaalt. alleen is jouw gebruik daarvan niet constructief maar meer als straffende. en daar kan ik niet tegen
kritiek is een zegen maar als je het gaat gebruiken om te schaden dan is het een ramp
maar zo is het met alles in het heelal, gebruik ervan, niet het object (al dan niet abstract) zelf. een wapenfabriek opkopen is gewoon symptomen bestrijding. wapens zijn niet slecht.
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liberal quakers (84%)
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# 4. eastern orthodox (86%)
# 5. roman catholic (86%)
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# 8. orthodox judaism (71%)
# 9. seventh day adventist (68%)
# 10. liberal quakers (67%)
quote:ik zou trots zijn op mijn intolerante denkbeelden tegenover abortus en homo'sop zaterdag 10 juli 2004 21:01 schreef jedimasterlucia het volgende:
mijn top 10:
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.2. mahayana buddhism (85%)
3. new thought (84%)
quote:ik zou trots zijn op mijn intolerantie jegens katholieken..op zaterdag 10 juli 2004 21:23 schreef dora_van_crizadak het volgende:
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ik zou trots zijn op mijn intolerante denkbeelden tegenover abortus en homo's
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3. non-theist (77%)
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5. theravada buddhism (70%)
6. neo-pagan (60%)
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9. reform judaism (44%)
10. taoism (38%)
11. mahayana buddhism (35%)
12. new thought (33%)
13. orthodox quaker (29%)
14. sikhism (29%)
15. christian science (church of christ, scientist) (25%)
16. scientology (25%)
17. bahá'í faith (22%)
18. church of jesus christ of latter-day saints (mormons) (22%)
19. mainline - conservative christian protestant (17%)
20. eastern orthodox (14%)
21. hinduism (14%)
22. islam (14%)
23. jainism (14%)
24. orthodox judaism (14%)
25. roman catholic (14%)
26. seventh day adventist (11%)
27. jehovah's witness (7%)
echt dat moest ik even kwijt
quote:op dinsdag 13 juli 2004 02:08 schreef yoriz het volgende:
trouwens over de topictitel: iemand vertelde me dat je beter kan zeggen, welk geloof past bij mij, ipv bij welk geloof pas ik, en dat klopt helemaal
echt dat moest ik even kwijt
quote:erg goed opgemerkt. hier heb je helemaal gelijk in. net als de opmerking die iemand anders poste over het plaatsen in hokjes.op dinsdag 13 juli 2004 02:08 schreef yoriz het volgende:
trouwens over de topictitel: iemand vertelde me dat je beter kan zeggen, welk geloof past bij mij, ipv bij welk geloof pas ik, en dat klopt helemaal
quote:in grote lijnen klopt het wel, al ben ik wat aan de nuchtere kant voor "magische rituelen"1. neo-pagan (100%)
2. new age (91%)
3. unitarian universalism (91%)
4. liberal quakers (81%)
5. secular humanism (81%)
6. mahayana buddhism (75%)
7. theravada buddhism (69%)
8. taoism (67%)
9. mainline - liberal christian protestants (67%)
10. new thought (58%)
11. non-theist (55%)
12. reform judaism (52%)
13. sikhism (50%)
14. scientology (47%)
15. hinduism (44%)
16. orthodox quaker (44%)
17. jainism (43%)
18. christian science (church of christ, scientist) (40%)
19. bahá'í faith (29%)
20. church of jesus christ of latter-day saints (mormons) (23%)
21. orthodox judaism (23%)
22. seventh day adventist (19%)
23. mainline - conservative christian protestant (18%)
24. eastern orthodox (12%)
25. islam (12%)
26. roman catholic (12%)
27. jehovah's witness (5%)
neo-pagan a community of faiths bringing ancient pagan and magickal traditions to the modern age -- including mostly wicca but also druidism, asatru, shamanism, neo-native american, etc. neo-pagan is an umbrella term for various and diverse beliefs with many elements in common. (see pagan path selector below) some neo-pagans find no incongruence practicing neo-paganism along with adherence to another faith, such as christianity or judaism.
belief in deity: some believe in a supreme being. many believe in god and goddess - a duality. many believe there are countless spirit beings, gods and goddesses, in the cosmos and within all of nature - god is all and within all; all are one god. the great mother earth, or mother nature, is highly worshipped. divinity is immanent and may become manifest within anyone at any time through various methods.
incarnations: no human incarnations are worshipped in particular, as all of nature and the universe are considered embodiments of god and goddess, or of gods and goddesses, worthy of respect, reverence or worship.
origin of universe/life: generally there is no conflict between observations revealed through science and neo-pagan beliefs on origins of the physical universe and of man. many believe in a supreme intelligence that created a duality of god/goddess who then created a spirit world of gods and goddesses as well as all of the universe and nature.
after death: many believe in reincarnation, after some rest and recovery in the “otherworld.” there is generally no concept of hell as a place of punishment, but some believe wrongdoing can trap the soul in state of suffering after death. some (wicca) believe the soul joins their dead ancestors who watch over and protect their family. some believe that life energy continues in some, if unknown, form. some believe in various spiritual resting places. many say we don’t or can’t know what happens after death.
why evil? “evil” is imbalance. most believe there is no evil but rather that people sometimes make mistakes. wrongdoing results when we forget we are one with the universal spirit.
salvation: the concept of “salvation” is essentially irrelevant; rather the belief that people can attain spiritual balance and harmony with each other and nature. the path includes group ceremonies, dances, songs/chants, prayers, meditation, trance, altered states of consciousness, the metaphysical, magic, invoking or evoking deities or spirits, tantric practices. intercessors are commonly used: psychics, seers, shamans, tarot, oui-ja board. ethical choices are influenced by belief in rebirth and karma - that one is rewarded or punished within this or after this lifetime for one’s choices, and an ethical code to do no harm.
undeserved suffering: most do not believe in satan or any spirit being as the cause of suffering. some believe in karma, that choosing to live a life of wrongdoing and pain will naturally result in suffering in this or later lifetimes. many view suffering as a result of spiritual imbalance in one’s life or on the planet or in the universe. the focus is generally on healing suffering rather than answering definitively why it exists.
issues: abortion choice is supported by many, but beliefs about abortion range from “pro-life” to “pro-choice.” views on divorce, homosexuality, and gender equality are generally very supportive of human differences, equality, and personal choice. many believe that involvement in community action, especially regarding environmental concerns, is integral to the belief in human interdependence and worship of the earth mother. many promote strict nonviolence to humans and animals.
1. theravada buddhism (100%)
2. mahayana buddhism (88%)
3. taoism (76%)
klopt wel enigszins
1. non-theist (100%)
2. secular humanism (100%)
3. unitarian universalism (89%)
volgens mij de eerste non-theist in dit topic
nontheists include atheists, agnostics and others. atheists' beliefs are similar to those of the humanists (see), but do not necessarily include the emphasis on humanity's ability to improve the human condition. views on contemporary issues vary widely. agnostics are inclined to question the existence of supernatural being(s) or a force, e.g. the answer to whether or not god (or deity) exists would be: "we do not and/or cannot know."
als ik bij deze test, die ook in de beschrijving van 'non-theism' stond, kijk bij welke vorm van 'non-theism' ik zou behoren, komt daar op 1 'secular humanism' uit, wat mooi uitkomt bij de resultaten hierboven, aangezien ik daar ook 100% voor heb
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quote:komt wel aardig overeen dacht ikyour results:
1. sikhism (100%)
2. islam (96%)
3. orthodox judaism (96%)
4. bahá'í faith (92%)
5. reform judaism (88%)
6. liberal quakers (81%)
7. jainism (76%)
8. orthodox quaker (73%)
9. church of jesus christ of latter-day saints (mormons) (67%)
10. unitarian universalism (65%)
11. hinduism (61%)
12. mainline - liberal christian protestants (61%)
13. seventh day adventist (57%)
14. mainline - conservative christian protestant (55%)
15. mahayana buddhism (53%)
16. jehovah's witness (51%)
17. eastern orthodox (50%)
18. roman catholic (50%)
19. theravada buddhism (44%)
20. neo-pagan (39%)
21. taoism (35%)
22. new age (30%)
23. new thought (25%)
24. secular humanism (25%)
25. scientology (20%)
26. non-theist (17%)
27. christian science (church of christ, scientist) (15%)
wel jammer van die eerste plek, maar iedereen maakt fouten zullen we maar zeggen.
quote:misschien moet je maar een tulband gaan dragen !op vrijdag 16 juli 2004 15:58 schreef kirmizibeyaz het volgende:
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komt wel aardig overeen dacht ik
wel jammer van die eerste plek, maar iedereen maakt fouten zullen we maar zeggen.
quote:ja, misschien wel.op vrijdag 16 juli 2004 18:36 schreef viola_holt het volgende:
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misschien moet je maar een tulband gaan dragen !
nee, de uitslag is waarschijnlijk sterk beïnvloedt door, naar ik schat, 2 vragen. er waren zeker 2 vragen die ik duidelijk verkeerd had geïnterpreteerd. daar kwam ik achter nadat ik de uitvoerige beschrijving had gelezen. ik heb er dan ook geen twijfel over dat de islam bij mij helemaal bovenaan zou eindigen als ik de test nogmaals zou doen.
quote:iets meer dan een jaar verder, en ik heb nog steeds dezelfde geloven in de top 3, alleen hebben ze van plaats gewisseld:op maandag 10 maart 2003 00:00 schreef stranger het volgende:
quote:1. unitarian universalism (100%)
2. secular humanism (99%)
3. neo-pagan (92%)
en dat klopt
quote:beetje uitleg sater ?op zaterdag 17 juli 2004 15:15 schreef sater het volgende:
ben voor het kaninnefatisme.
quote:en klopt het ook nog ?op zondag 18 juli 2004 17:23 schreef sooinos het volgende:
seculier humanist
quote:gelukkig maarop zaterdag 17 juli 2004 11:39 schreef kirmizibeyaz het volgende:
ik heb er dan ook geen twijfel over dat de islam bij mij helemaal bovenaan zou eindigen als ik de test nogmaals zou doen.
quote:anti - religie waarbij alles naar eigen believen mag worden ingevuld. kortom men doet maarop zondag 18 juli 2004 21:27 schreef viola_holt het volgende:
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beetje uitleg sater ?
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2. unitarian universalism (93%)
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3. non-theist (89%)
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4. theravada buddhism (69%)
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5. liberal quakers (66%)
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6. mainline - liberal christian protestants (54%)
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7. neo-pagan (51%)
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8. reform judaism (40%)
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9. taoism (38%)
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10. new age (35%)
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11. new thought (30%)
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12. sikhism (26%)
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13. mahayana buddhism (25%)
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14. christian science (church of christ, scientist) (23%)
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15. scientology (23%)
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16. church of jesus christ of latter-day saints (mormons) (20%)
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17. orthodox quaker (20%)
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18. mainline - conservative christian protestant (17%)
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19. bahá'í faith (13%)
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20. eastern orthodox (13%)
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21. hinduism (13%)
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22. islam (13%)
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23. orthodox judaism (13%)
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24. roman catholic (13%)
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25. seventh day adventist (13%)
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26. jainism (6%)
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27. jehovah's witness (6%)
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klopt aardig zou ik zeggen. maar de meesten horen te weten voor de test wat er uitkomt. dat was in mijn geval iig zo.
1. reform judaism (100%)
2. liberal quakers (93%)
3. sikhism (91%)
4. bahá'í faith (90%)
5. unitarian universalism (88%)
6. orthodox judaism (80%)
7. islam (76%)
8. jainism (71%)
9. mainline - liberal christian protestants (67%)
10. mahayana buddhism (63%)
reform judaism (shares some views with reconstruction and renewal judaism.) -- jewish law is changeable and symbolic
see also american judaism -- movements/affiliations selector
belief in deity: beliefs vary among adherents, including that of non-belief or questioning belief, and all are welcome and considered personal, but the official stance is that there is one god almighty - creator, all-powerful, ever-present, and all knowing -- formless, incorporeal spirit.
incarnations: none, as only god is worshipped. moses was the greatest of all prophets.
origin of universe and life: most believe that genesis is to be understood symbolically. god created and controls all phenomena revealed by modern science.
after death: reform jews believe in the world to come and a messianic age (but no individual messiah). personal beliefs in the details of afterlife are diverse as there is no official position. some believe in heaven and hell but only as states of consciousness, some believe in reincarnation, some believe god is all forgiving, and some may not believe in an actual afterlife. regardless, judaism generally focuses on living a virtuous life, rather than working toward reward after death.
why evil? no original sin. most often, satan is interpreted symbolically to represent selfish desires that are inherent within all. god gave people free will, and people are responsible for their actions.
salvation: the main emphasis is on living the kind of life that god commands which will surely be rewarded if there is an afterlife. most believe god is forgiving of all; there is no hell to which some are condemned. salvation is achieved through faith and prayer to god, good works, concern for the earth and humanity, and behavior that does no harm to others. the extent to which one follows jewish law is an individual decision.
undeserved suffering: god gave humans freewill to feel pleasure and pain, and his purpose in allowing deep suffering of the innocent must be good even if mysterious. it is generally believed that god suffers along with the sufferer. more important than knowing why god allows suffering is to work to help those in need.
contemporary issues: judaism holds that human life begins upon first breath, and jewish law requires abortion if necessary to save the mother’s life prior to birth. most believe potential human life should never be terminated casually, but it is generally regarded as a personal decision especially within the first 40 days of pregnancy. homosexuality: homosexuals are god’s creation, and jewish instruction is to love our neighbor as ourselves. reform (and conservative) judaism have a long history of support for homosexual rights.
quote:hmm, jehova getuige worden zal hier het moeilijkst worden voor mijyour results:
# 1. secular humanism (100%)
# 2. unitarian universalism (91%)
# 3. non-theist (84%)
# 4. liberal quakers (75%)
# 5. theravada buddhism (69%)
# 6. neo-pagan (64%)
# 7. mainline - liberal christian protestants (60%)
# 8. taoism (50%)
# 9. new age (48%)
# 10. orthodox quaker (40%)
# 11. reform judaism (38%)
# 12. mahayana buddhism (37%)
# 13. bahá'í faith (25%)
# 14. sikhism (25%)
# 15. jainism (24%)
# 16. seventh day adventist (24%)i
# 17. new thought (22%)
# 18. mainline - conservative christian protestant (20%)
# 19. church of jesus christ of latter-day saints (mormons) (19%)
# 20. scientology (18%)
# 21. christian science (church of christ, scientist) (16%)
# 22. hinduism (12%)
# 23. eastern orthodox (10%)
# 24. islam (10%)
# 25. orthodox judaism (10%)
# 26. roman catholic (10%)
#27. jehovah's witness (6%)
maar de top had ik wel verwacht, ben dus tevreden met de uitslag 1. islam (100%)
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nu ben ik 100 boedhist.... wel grappig eigenlijk
1. secular humanism (100%)
2. unitarian universalism (96%)
3. theravada buddhism (94%)
4. liberal quakers (83%)
5. non-theist (76%)
6. mainline - liberal christian protestants (62%)
7. taoism (62%)
8. neo-pagan (61%)
9. mahayana buddhism (59%)
10. new age (47%)
11. orthodox quaker (45%)
12. jainism (43%)
13. reform judaism (41%)
14. hinduism (40%)
15. sikhism (38%)
16. new thought (30%)
17. bahá'í faith (25%)
18. christian science (church of christ, scientist) (23%)
19. scientology (23%)
20. seventh day adventist (23%)
21. church of jesus christ of latter-day saints (mormons) (20%)
22. mainline - conservative christian protestant (16%)
23. eastern orthodox (13%)
24. islam (13%)
25. jehovah's witness (13%)
26. orthodox judaism (13%)
27. roman catholic (13%)
voor mij zijn er 4 grote godsdiensten wat van dezelfde god (allah) is gekomen. de echte en geldige is met 100% godswoorden de koran.
quote:alsof er 1 'christendom' is, alsof er 1 'islam' is... alleen in de ogen van de simpelen van geest is alles er in afgebakende hokjes...op vrijdag 3 september 2004 22:19 schreef alper het volgende:
als je het zo bekijkt zijn dit geen geloven, behalve de islam, christelijk en enz.
voor mij zijn er 4 grote godsdiensten wat van dezelfde god (allah) is gekomen. de echte en geldige is met 100% godswoorden de koran.
quote:jahweh = god = allah staat gelijk aan: thora = bijbel = koran. goddelijk geïnspireerd?op vrijdag 3 september 2004 22:19 schreef alper het volgende:
als je het zo bekijkt zijn dit geen geloven, behalve de islam, christelijk en enz.
voor mij zijn er 4 grote godsdiensten wat van dezelfde god (allah) is gekomen. de echte en geldige is met 100% godswoorden de koran.
de inhoud van deze geschriften staat diametraal t.o.v. de algemene verklaring van de rechten van de mens. [v.n. dec. 1948] naar mijn beste weten, ook door moslimstaten ondertekent.
hoe kan het zijn dat het gewelddadig godswoord prevaleert boven de humane rechtenverklaring?
is het niet beledigend te veronderstellen: jahweh = god =allah staat toe dat zijn schepselen elkaar discrimineren?
quote:parool 04 - 09 - '04: de islam als praktische handleiding voor haat en bloedvergieten.op vrijdag 3 september 2004 22:19 schreef alper het volgende:
als je het zo bekijkt zijn dit geen geloven, behalve de islam, christelijk en enz.
voor mij zijn er 4 grote godsdiensten wat van dezelfde god (allah) is gekomen. de echte en geldige is met 100% godswoorden de koran.
irak ansar al soenna]: " terwille van het kwellen van de vijanden van god de verhevene zijn wij overgegaan tot de uitvoering van god's vonnis tegen twaalf nepalezen, uit hun land gekomen, onder het aanroepen van hun god boeddha. dit om oorlog te voeren tegen de moslims. dit alles ten dienste van joden en christenen, de [klein]kinderen van
apen en zwijnen." [tot dusver]
tja, moordende moslimmalloten. beslan met honderden afgeslachte kinderen als ultiem dieptepunt. tjetjeense rebellen worden immers door arabische terreurorganisaties gesteund. {buitenhof 05 - 09 - '04] het is duidelijk dat het structureel fundamenteel mis is met het profetengeloof.
canadese irshad manji [the trouble with islam a muslim's call for reform in her faith]:
" wil de islam gered worden van zijn duistere kanten, dan moeten de volgelingen van de profeet het aandurven afstand te nemen van sommigen van zijn woorden. gelijk gematigde joden en christenen, moeten ook gematigde moslims zich afvragen wat het betekent dat hun heilige schrift niet perfect is. " [tot dusver]
vloeken in de moskee evenals het onderstaande paroolcitaat van
nasr aboe zaid [prof. univ. caïro]: filosoferen over het verschil tussen allah en diens door mensen opgetekende woord leidde tot: beschuldiging van afvalligheid door religieuze autoriteiten. verdreven uit caïro leeft en doceert hij sindsdien in leiden." [einde samenvatting]
tja, hier zijn de moslimfanaten niét blij mee. evenmin als met het gedrag van zaid's echtgenote. mevrouw verkoos haar man trouw te blijven. haar was dringend geadviseerd om te scheiden.
en helaas.het moorden in naam van de verhevene is nog lang niet voorbij.
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quote:niet alleen moorden, óók ontvoeren. hoewel?op zondag 5 september 2004 12:03 schreef sater het volgende:
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en helaas.het moorden in naam van de verhevene is nog lang niet voorbij.
associated press nl 05 -09 - '04: een groep die eerder zeven vrachtwagenchaufeurs ontvoerde heeft de soennitische bond van islamitische geestelijken zondag gevraagd vast te stellen: of de islam het ontvoeren van buitenlanders die voor een bezettingsmacht werken toestaat.
de arabische nieuwszender al - arabiya toonde zondag video- opnames van een gemaskerde man die zegt te spreken namens de dragers van de zwarte vaandels. de bond vraagt een fatwa, religieus vonnis, over de kwestie uit te vaardigen. [einde samenvatting]
m.b.t. de 1e alinea: is ontvoeren wel/niet een allah welgevallig werk?
m.b.t. de 2e alinea: wel welgevallig een fatwa, niet welgevallig eveneens een fatwa. hoe je het wendt of keert allah's opgestoken vinger wijst vanuit het paradijs.
