Presidentiële verkiezingen Verenigde Staten #40 Arizona audit

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 15:48 schreef mcmlxiv het volgende:
Waarom is het toch nooit een verrassing dat trumpanzees eigenlijk ook bijna altijd Corona wappies, brexit fans, milieu/klimaat probleem ontkenners en pizzagate aanhangers zijn?

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 14:44 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:
Ben wel benieuwd hoe lang het gaat duren voordat Fauci hier van pedofilie beschuldigt gaat worden.

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 15:50 schreef HeatWave het volgende:

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Geen idee, waarom zijn er miljarden mensen met dezelfde psychose die religie heet?

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 15:50 schreef HeatWave het volgende:

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Geen idee, waarom zijn er miljarden mensen met dezelfde psychose die religie heet?

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 15:54 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:

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Dit lijkt me een adequate omschrijving van het Trumpisme inderdaad.

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 15:34 schreef Chivaz het volgende:
https://thefederalist.com(...)-were-better-for-it/

Het moet toch heerlijk zijn om DeSantis te zijn en vervolgens gelijk te krijgen wat betreft die charlatan Fauci en zijn eigen strategie in Florida.

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 16:10 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:

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Wat is dat overtuigende bewijs tegen Fauci nou eigenlijk?

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Fauci's emails are like a Rorschach ink blot: what you see in them reveals more about you than the ink blot, or, in this case, the emails.

For Trump supporters I know in small Kansas towns and other rural areas, Fauci is a villain. He broadcasts conflicting messages about the virus, these Republicans say, and twists science. They also say that he undermined then-President Trump.

These conservatives refused to wear masks, even during the worst days of the pandemic, because, they said, the scientific guidelines changed constantly, and Fauci had flip-flopped.

His emails will reinforce their opinions. Fauci did indeed change his mind about health guidance, such as the wearing of masks, as more information emerged about the virus. He told someone in February 2020 they did not need to wear a mask while travelling. Later, he encouraged people to wear them.

In contrast, for liberals in the Midwest and in other regions, Fauci is a hero. His emails reinforce their views - that he changed his mind about what people should do to fight the virus, depending upon the scientific data, and not on what Trump wanted people to hear.

Bron

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 16:01 schreef HeatWave het volgende:

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Mwah, deels mee eens, alleen gaat het in mijn ogen op voor iedereen die blind achter een politicus aanloopt, of het nou Trump, Biden, Obama, Rutte, Kaag of Baudet is.

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 16:41 schreef QuidProJoe het volgende:
BlueAnon lijkt wel extra boos vandaag. De audits en Fauci e-mails lijken hun tol te eisen.

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 18:00 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:

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Weet jij dat dan, welk overtuigd bewijs er is tegen Fauci?

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 18:31 schreef illusions het volgende:

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QPJ klampt zich al een dozijn topics vast aan het enige "bewijs" wat hij denkt te hebben - een verspreking van Biden. Maar voor de rest is het allemaal overduidelijk hoor, alleen niet bewijsbaar.

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 18:31 schreef illusions het volgende:

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QPJ klampt zich al een dozijn topics vast aan het enige "bewijs" wat hij denkt te hebben - een verspreking van Biden. Maar voor de rest is het allemaal overduidelijk hoor, alleen niet bewijsbaar.

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 20:10 schreef theguyver het volgende:

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Maanden lang zijn de versprekingen en gebrabbel van Biden een issue..
En nu blijkt de verspreking HET bewijs te wezen..
Wie zag dat aankomen..

BTW betekent dit nu dat we weer veilig vleermuis soep mogen eten?

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 20:42 schreef illusions het volgende:

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Kon altijd al, het kwam toch uit een Wuhan lab?

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 14:22 schreef QuidProJoe het volgende:

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Geen idee, is dat niet een Maggie Habermann BlueAnon theorie?

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Two days ago, the New York Times's Maggie Haberman reported that Donald Trump "has been telling a number of people he's in contact with that he expects he will get reinstated by August." In response, many figures on the right inserted their fingers into their ears and started screaming about fake news.

Instead, they should have listened -- because Haberman's reporting was correct. I can attest, from speaking to an array of different sources, that Donald Trump does indeed believe quite genuinely that he -- along with former senators David Perdue and Martha McSally -- will be "reinstated" to office this summer after "audits" of the 2020 elections in Arizona, Georgia, and a handful of other states have been completed. I can attest, too, that Trump is trying hard to recruit journalists, politicians, and other influential figures to promulgate this belief -- not as a fundraising tool or an infantile bit of trolling or a trial balloon, but as a fact.

It will be tempting for weary conservatives to dismiss this information as "old news" or as "an irrelevance." It will be tempting, too, to downplay the enormity of what is being claimed, or to change the subject, or to attack the messengers by implying that they must "hate" Trump and his voters. But such temptations should be assiduously avoided. We are not talking here about a fringe figure within the Republican tent, but about a man who hopes to make support for his outlandish claims "a litmus test of sorts as he decides whom to endorse for state and federal contests in 2022 and 2024." Conservatives understand why it mattered that the press lost its collective mind over Russia after Trump's fair-and-square victory in 2016. They understand why it mattered that Hillary Clinton publicly described Trump as an "illegitimate president" who had "stolen" the election. And they understand why it mattered that Jimmy Carter insisted that Trump had "lost the election" and been "put into office because the Russians interfered." They should understand why this matters, too.

The scale of Trump's delusion is quite startling. This is not merely an eccentric interpretation of the facts or an interesting foible, nor is it an irrelevant example of anguished post-presidency chatter. It is a rejection of reality, a rejection of law, and, ultimately, a rejection of the entire system of American government. There is no Reinstatement Clause within the United States Constitution. Hell, there is nothing even approximating a Reinstatement Clause within the United States Constitution. The election has been certified, Joe Biden is the president, and, until 2024, that is all there is to it. It does not matter what one's view of Trump is. It does not matter whether one voted for or against Trump. It does not matter whether one views Trump's role within the Republican Party favorably or unfavorably. We are talking here about cold, hard, neutral facts that obtain irrespective of one's preferences; it is not too much to ask that the former head of the executive branch should understand them.

Just how far out there is Trump's theory? Consider that, even if it were true that the 2020 election had been stolen -- which it is absolutely not -- his belief would still be absurd. It could be confirmed tomorrow that agents working for a combination of al-Qaeda, Venezuela, and George Soros had hacked into every single voting machine in the country and altered the totals by tens of millions, and it would remain the case there is no mechanism within the American legal order for a do-over of any sort. In such an eventuality, there would be indictments, an impeachment drive, and a constitutional crisis. But, however bad it got, Donald Trump would not be "reinstated" to the presidency. That is not how America works, how America has ever worked, or how America can ever work. American politicians do not lose their reelection races only to be reinstalled later on, as might the second-place horse in a race whose winner was disqualified. The idea is otherworldly and obscene.

There is nothing to be gained for conservatism by pretending otherwise. To acknowledge that Trump is living in a fantasy world does not wipe out his achievements or render anything else he has said incorrect. It does not endorse Joe Biden or hand the Republican Party over to Bill Kristol or knock down an inch of the wall on the border. It merely demands that Donald Trump be treated like any other person: subject to gravity, open to rebuttal, and liable to be laughed at when he becomes so unmoored from the real world that it is hard to know where to begin in attempting to explain him.

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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 12:05 schreef QuidProJoe het volgende:
Het was een meesterzet van Trump om Fauci het gezicht van Covid te maken. Als Trump dat niet had gedaan, had niemand van hem gehoord

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en had the openbaring van zijn e-mails niet hetzelfde effect gehad. Nu weet iedereen wie verantwoordelijk is voor Obama's biowapen.

Never forget:
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Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 10:05 schreef QuidProJoe het volgende:
DOMINOES: Georgia Will Send Delegation To Arizona To Observe Audit Next Week
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Observers of Arizona's Republican-led recount have found security gates left open, confidential manuals left unattended and quality-control measures disregarded, according to the Arizona secretary of state's office.

In one instance, a software update caused so many errors that the company handling the recount abandoned the update and went back to the old software. In other instances, prohibited items including cellphones and pens with black or blue ink were allowed onto the counting floor.

And in an alleged incident last week, audit spokesman and former state Republican Party chairman Randy Pullen told an observer that the pink T-shirt the observer was required to wear while watching the proceedings made him "look like a transgender," according to the Arizona secretary of state's office.

Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs (D) and election security experts have long criticized the audit as error-riddled. Now, Hobbs's office is documenting the alleged infractions online.

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Op zaterdag 5 juni 2021 11:32 schreef QuidProJoe het volgende:
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Op zaterdag 5 juni 2021 11:35 schreef theguyver het volgende:

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Denk dat niet anders zal zijn, als slechts op bezoek, met andere voormalig presidenten!