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  woensdag 29 juli 2020 @ 20:56:09 #101
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0s.gif Op woensdag 29 juli 2020 20:52 schreef idealistuo het volgende:

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Naja krijgen. Het zijn sociale huurhuizen. Die krijg je niet he.
Man man man. 8)7
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0s.gif Op woensdag 29 juli 2020 19:02 schreef cempexo het volgende:
COA zoekt honderden extra plekken voor asielzoekers in Oost-Nederland: ‘Misschien op vakantieparken’

Het Centraal Orgaan opvang asielzoekers (COA) is naarstig op zoek naar 5000 extra plekken voor asielzoekers in het hele land. Per provincie wil de organisatie zo’n 400 extra opvangplekken. Maar waar? Misschien bieden vakantieparken soelaas, zegt het COA. Gemeentes in Oost-Nederland hebben nog geen concrete plannen.

In het najaar van 2019 gaf het COA aan dat er in 2020 5000 plekken extra nodig zijn. ,,De opvangcapaciteit wordt bijna helemaal gebruikt. De bezettingsgraad is 93 procent. Vorige week waren er landelijk nog maar 500 plekken over”, schetst woordvoerder Edward Ernst de nijpende situatie.

En meer informatie: https://www.destentor.nl/(...)ntieparken~a15ff7c2/

Het begint volledig uit de hand te lopen voor de burger en de asielzoeker...maar de Nederlandse grenzen blijven open. Dat wel...want dat hoort zo.
Je lijkt de suggestie te willen wekken dat er op de één of andere manier meer vluchtelingen komen dan voorheen.
Dat blijkt uit de cijfers juist niet, vanwege de corona crisis is het aantal vluchtelingen dit jaar juist drastisch lage, sommige weken zelfs 5x minder dan normaal.

Uit het artikel blijkt dan ook:

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,,Het probleem heeft meerdere oorzaken. Ten eerste zijn de wachttijden bij de Immigratie- en Naturalisatiedienst (IND) lang, dus zitten mensen langer in de opvang. Bovendien is er een landelijk woningtekort, waardoor statushouders te langzaam uit asielzoekerscentra stromen. Er zijn landelijk 5500 statushouders die nog in een azc zitten, maar eigenlijk door moeten stromen naar de gemeente.”
Ofwel: gebrek aan doorstroming waardoor de AZC's vol raken.

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Opvangen in de regio, zoals al velen vele jaren roepen.
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1s.gif Op woensdag 29 juli 2020 21:10 schreef Document1 het volgende:
Opvangen in de regio, zoals al velen vele jaren roepen.
99% wordt al opgevangen in de regio.
  woensdag 29 juli 2020 @ 21:13:21 #105
65846 Bocaj
Vámonos!
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0s.gif Op woensdag 29 juli 2020 20:51 schreef idealistuo het volgende:
Ook nog serieus naar Lillian
Vind haar 'grijs' gebied op vluchtelingenbeleid. (https://www.sp.nl/standpunt/asielzoekers-en-vluchtelingen)
Heb specifiek D66 en GL eruit gelaten want daar weet je sowieso het antwoord al... :')
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0s.gif Op woensdag 29 juli 2020 21:13 schreef Bocaj het volgende:

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Vind haar 'grijs' gebied op vluchtelingenbeleid. (https://www.sp.nl/standpunt/asielzoekers-en-vluchtelingen)
Heb specifiek D66 en GL eruit gelaten want daar weet je sowieso het antwoord al... :')
Neem maar aan van iemand die lid is van de PVDA en de SP. De SP is pro vluchtelingen en wijst naar het buitenlandbeleid als schuldige voor de vluchtelingencrisis.
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Het effect van een gesloten Deens grens, die eind 2015 dicht ging.

Aantal asielzoekers aanbod Denemarken. Incl familiehereniging, dat na 2 jaar wachten, alsmede andere financiële en inkomsten voorwaarden.

2015:
totaal 21.000

2016:
totaal 7494

2017:
totaal 2748

2018:
totaal 1628

2019:
totaal 1665

Sub totaal 34.535

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Emigreer...als je van een rijk gevuld leven houdt...in vrijheid.
  woensdag 29 juli 2020 @ 22:14:58 #108
232494 Boca_Raton
Voor al uw no nonsense
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0s.gif Op woensdag 29 juli 2020 22:12 schreef cempexo het volgende:
Het effect van de gesloten Deens grens, die eind 2015 dicht ging:

Aantal asielzoekers aanbod Denemarken. Incl familiehereniging, dat na 2 jaar wachten, alsmede andere financiële en inkomsten voorwaarden. De Deense grenzen zijn gesloten sinds eind 2015

2015:
totaal 21.000

2016:
totaal 7494

2017:
totaal 2748

2018:
totaal 1628

2019:
totaal 1665
Het topic gaat over Nederland.
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1s.gif Op woensdag 29 juli 2020 22:14 schreef Boca_Raton het volgende:

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Het topic gaat over Nederland.
Idem zelfde verklaring doelgroep Nederland, de grenzen zijn open:

2015: 58.880
2016: 31.642
2017: 41.300
2018: 28.800
2019: 30.000

Sub totaal: 190.622

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Emigreer...als je van een rijk gevuld leven houdt...in vrijheid.
  woensdag 29 juli 2020 @ 22:22:30 #110
338319 ZarB
Piña colada
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Just skip all the layers and go straight to the crazy!
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0s.gif Op woensdag 29 juli 2020 22:19 schreef cempexo het volgende:

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Idem zelfde verklaring doelgroep Nederland, de grenzen zijn open:


2019: 30.000

2019: 26.720
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0s.gif Op woensdag 29 juli 2020 22:19 schreef cempexo het volgende:

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Idem zelfde verklaring doelgroep Nederland, de grenzen zijn open:

2015: 58.880
2016: 31.642
2017: 41.300
2018: 28.800
2019: 30.000

Sub totaal: 190.622
Wat zijn dat? De asielvragers? Niet iedereen krijgt een verblijfsvergunning.
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0s.gif Op woensdag 29 juli 2020 22:12 schreef cempexo het volgende:
Het effect van een gesloten Deens grens, die eind 2015 dicht ging.

Aantal asielzoekers aanbod Denemarken. Incl familiehereniging, dat na 2 jaar wachten, alsmede andere financiële en inkomsten voorwaarden.

2015:
totaal 21.000

2016:
totaal 7494

2017:
totaal 2748

2018:
totaal 1628

2019:
totaal 1665

Sub totaal 34.535
Kennelijk willen ze oorlog.

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0s.gif Op woensdag 29 juli 2020 23:07 schreef Nober het volgende:

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Kennelijk willen ze oorlog.

Uit z'n verband getrokken fragment dat maar blijft terugkeren.

De hele tekst:

Thank you very much. I can't begin to tell you how glad I am that you are all here. This for me is already at the beginning a highlight in my career as a member of the European Commission. It is something that I have worked for for a year, and now that you are all here, I hope we can have a fruitful couple of days. I am very honoured by your presence at the first annual Colloquium on Fundamental Rights, and I strongly believe that we chose a topic that is of, I would almost say, existential importance to the future of Europe. This Colloquium is the first but it is not a one off. Fundamental rights is a responsibility I attach the highest importance to within my portfolio. I announced the Colloquium in the European Parliament a year ago, and I want to bring together once a year and around the same table, politicians, practitioners, institutions, NGOs, to build together a clear understanding of the situation of fundamental rights in Europe today. Taking time to listen, to confront our experiences, is equally vital to every one of us in helping us deal with the difficult issues we all grapple with separately. And I think it is hugely symbolic that we have decided to devote this first Colloquium to antisemitism and anti-Muslim hated. I feel very strongly about both issues. We decided on this theme at the beginning of the year against the backdrop of devastating terrorist attacks, the ghastly rise of antisemitism it exemplified, the fear of a backlash it released, the general malaise in our society it revealed but also the wave of civic mobilisation that it sparked across Europe.

It was a crucial topic then and today, as hundreds of thousands in need of refuge are arriving on our shores and the capacity of our society for tolerance and inclusion is put to the test like never before. There couldn't be a more burning issue. Europe is going through a period of crisis and turmoil, which is challenging the very values on which it was built. It is challenging the very fabric of European society and therefore the very fabric of European cooperation. The rise of antisemitism, the rise of Islamophobia, each in their own way are symptoms.

I know very well, ladies and gentlemen, that our decision to address both issues in the context of this Colloquium was a controversial one. Each is complex. Each is a unique phenomenon with its own roots, its own forms, its own impact. And each, yes, would deserve a Colloquium in its own right. We are not lumping them together. I know perfectly well that they are different phenomena with different histories, with different backgrounds, with different manifestations, with different levels of violence seen, etc etc. I know that very well. But what these phenomena do have in common is that they affect communities which are, each in their own way, seen as different from the majority, and which therefore risk being exposed and targeted when scapegoats are sought.

But through their extreme nature and the difficult discussions they trigger, antisemitism and anti-Muslim hatred are emblematic of other forms of hatred.

At the bottom of all forms of hatred, is the fact that you are targeted purely for who you are. No matter what you do, or what you say, you are targeted for who you are, something you can do nothing about. It's just who you are. Whether it's being scared of wearing your headscarf in public places, or covering your kippa with a baseball cap. Not being able to go about your daily business without a knot in your stomach, knowing the casual insults, the jokes, the abuse won't go away. The fear that your child's school, your local supermarket might be targeted by people who hate you for who you are.

About a year ago I started losing sleep over the headlines about Aliya: Europeans leaving Europe, today's Europe, because they no longer see, as Jews, a future for themselves here. Without our Jewish community, Europe would cease to exist. Europe would simply cease to exist.

When you know about European history, you know that the darker, uglier forces in our societies always turn first against minorities. Always turn first against Jews.

And when you know anything about European history, you know that antisemitism is a triple red line, never, ever to be crossed, for our collective sanity.

Antisemitism is not just terrible for the Jewish community, it is like a fever in an infected body; it points at a much wider problem. Antisemitism left unchallenged will create a much, much bigger problem in any society, that is what European history teaches us. So tackling antisemitism is an essential operation to save what we cherish in our society.

The fact that today, in Europe, antisemitism is still a reality, and that it is in fact on the rise – old antisemitism that we have known for centuries, and new antisemitism, that sometimes tries to hide itself behind anti-Zionism – is something we need to confront. I don't want European children to grow up with police at their school gates; it is a dark, dark stain on our collective conscience.

There is a book by one of my favourite German authors, Erich Maria Remarque. It's called 'Liebe deinen Nächsten' – I think the title in English is 'Flotsam'. He wrote it in 1939, and it tells the story of three Jewish exiles drifting across Europe. Their daily fears. The grim reality of exile. It's been with me every day these past few weeks. Now that we see the waves of refugees reaching our continent - and these refugees are actually going through exactly the same experience as the Jewish refugees were from Germany in the 1930s, sometimes deeply traumatised by what they experienced back home, like the characters in Remarque's books. Sometimes met with extreme forms of deep humanity by the people in the countries where they arrive, but also met with racism, violence, discrimination in the countries where they arrive.

So we never learn. We never learn. It is no different. The only thing that is different is that the refugees today come from somewhere else and have a different background.

In the past weeks, we have seen tremendous solidarity in some of our Member States. But we have also seen the dark side of society. We have seen the homes of asylum seekers set on fire. And we have heard political leaders declare that their countries would not accept refugees if they were Muslim.

Anti-Muslims incidents are multiplying across Europe. We're seeing a huge spike of attacks. Verbal insinuations, closed-mindedness, prejudice, discrimination.

The rise of islamophobia is the one of the biggest challenges in Europe. It is a challenge to our vital values, to the core of who we are.

Never has our societies' capacity for openness, for tolerance, for inclusion been more tested than it is today.


Diversity is now in some parts of Europe seen as a threat. Diversity comes with challenges. But diversity is humanity's destiny. There is not going to be, even in the remotest places of this planet, a nation that will not see diversity in its future. That’s where humanity is heading. And those politicians trying to sell to their electorates a society that is exclusively composed of people from one culture, are trying to portray a future based on a past that never existed, therefore that future will never be.

Europe will be diverse, like all other parts of the world will be diverse. The only question is, how do we deal with that diversity? And my answer to that is, by ensuring that our values determine how we deal with diversity and not giving up our values to refuse diversity. That will bring us down as a society.

If we don’t get this right, I truly believe Europe will not remain the Europe we built. Europe will not remain a place of peace and freedom, for very long.


Ladies and gentlemen, we are all here to listen. I am here to listen. And I want to encourage you to share your experiences, but above all your ideas on very concrete ways in which we can fight back against hatred and intolerance in Europe. Think about the things we could do in education; create meeting places where people can come together. Look how we can tackle hate speech on the Internet and in other places.

Together, we will take stock of the main challenges faced by the Jewish and Muslim Communities in Europe today. And together, we will explore solutions, from the fight against hate crime and hate speech to the role of civil society, education and local authorities to policies promoting non-discrimination and inclusion.

This round table is not just symbolic. This table, around it, we have an enormous wealth of experience and insight which can help us find new ideas and solutions. Together with Commissioner Jourova, we would like each and every one of us to leave tomorrow with a to-do list of very concrete points, of very concrete commitments.

The importance we attach to fighting antisemitism and anti-Muslim hatred also means that we do not just want to listen to you and your concerns today.

It means that we remain there to listen and help also when this Colloquium is over. For this reason, Commissioner Jourova and I have decided that we will designate, within the Commission, two coordinators with specific responsibility for following issues relating to one, antisemitism and the other, Islamophobia. So one coordinator responsible to be your contact point on issues relating to antisemitism, another coordinator responsible as your point of contact for issues related to Islamophobia. And these two persons within our services will have direct access to me. So whatever you say to them lands on my desk immediately. I want to be in direct control of this I will be your envoy if you want to call it that. I will have two people in my services whose task it will be one, to make sure that the issue of antisemitism is her or his main activity, and the other, Islamophobia, and that they report to me directly so I know what I need to do when there is an issue at hand.

I look forward to your exchanges – and have no doubt that they will be lively. You know, what makes us Europeans is not just the capacity to express ourselves and to be understood, but more than that it is the capacity to listen to others even if we don't agree with what they have to say. Thank you very, very much for your attention.


bron: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/SPEECH_15_5754
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0s.gif Op woensdag 29 juli 2020 23:07 schreef Nober het volgende:

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Kennelijk willen ze oorlog.

Ik zie Denemarken nog wel eens uit de EU stappen.
Emigreer...als je van een rijk gevuld leven houdt...in vrijheid.
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0s.gif Op woensdag 29 juli 2020 21:10 schreef TheFreshPrince het volgende:

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99% wordt al opgevangen in de regio.
Doe jij ook even een bron hierbij? Bvd.
Op zondag 15 januari 2017 19:21 schreef Ser_Ciappelletto het volgende:
Als je geen nazi genoemd wilt worden moet je geen achterlijke discriminerende dingen zeggen als: "de islam tast anderen aan in hun rechten".
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Als ze op vakantie kunnen gaan in het land van herkomst stel ik voor ze allemaal lekker terug te sturen. Zo lastig is dit probleem niet. De oplossing wordt gewoon op de verkeerde plek gezocht.
De Euro was een goed idee ... en dat had het moeten blijven.
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4s.gif Op woensdag 29 juli 2020 23:39 schreef SpaceOddity het volgende:

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Doe jij ook even een bron hierbij? Bvd.
Ik had het fout.
86% wordt in de regio opgevangen volgens UNHCR.

https://www.vluchtelingen(...)bescherming-de-regio
  Moderator donderdag 30 juli 2020 @ 05:02:36 #119
14679 crew  sp3c
Geef me die goud!!!
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als TS het zelf al niet over het onderwerp wil henben kan hier wel een slotje op
Op zondag 8 december 2013 00:01 schreef Karina het volgende:
Dat gaat me te diep sp3c, daar is het te laat voor.
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