quote:Wereldwijd zijn miljoenen van ons op zoek naar ware liefde. Maar hoe en waar vind je nu de liefde van je leven? Voor een nieuw programma opent BNN speciaal een restaurant waar singles op eerste date gaan. Het ‘First Dates’ restaurant. De kandidaten die meedoen zijn jong, oud, hetero, homo en uit alle lagen van de bevolking. Met slechts één doel stappen ze naar binnen: de liefde van hun leven vinden
Elke dag op NPO3
quote:Op vrijdag 19 juni 2020 20:00 schreef NoCigar het volgende:
Nou, fijn dat ze het leuk hebben bij elkaar en verder niemand gaan lastigvallen,
2.0quote:
Jammer. Ze ziet er nog prima uit.quote:
Ze eet wel lekker enthousiast.quote:Op vrijdag 19 juni 2020 20:08 schreef Revanches het volgende:
Knappe vrouw vind ik. Zou niet zeggen dat ze 40 is. Die man komt saai over.
https://www.ad.nl/show/gi(...)nger-samen~acd71a1c/
Ze werd te oud.quote:Op zaterdag 20 juni 2020 14:36 schreef RipCity het volgende:
Giel Beelen en First Dates-Malou niet langer samen
https://www.ad.nl/show/gi(...)nger-samen~acd71a1c/
Niemand kijkt die Britse denk ik.quote:
Vind ze zelf minder boeiend iig.
Wel leuke dame die Indiase.
Niet teveel lachen anders barst het..quote:
Halve centimeter makeup op haar gezicht deze.
Van 8 meter denk je: hé? En als je dichterbij komt denk je: Help!quote:
Halve centimeter makeup op haar gezicht deze.
Nouja aids zou eerder typisch zijn. Maar xtc is ook vrij gangbaar in die krijgen geloof ik.quote:
Op Alhoewel, bij nader inzien.quote:
Gezellig hier? Ik kom ook chillenquote:
Beetje droevig nu met die ouderen.quote:
quote:Op dinsdag 23 juni 2020 20:06 schreef NoCigar het volgende:
Door zijn bril en hoofd moet ik de hele tijd aan Eddie uit Bottom denken (Edward Elizabeth Hitler).
Dat zou een beste plottwist zijn
Nu wil ik die aflevering over daten weer gaan kijken
Ik vind hem echt een ranzige eikel met zijn Lik je elleboog.quote:
Haha ik vind die Liberty wel een leuke vrouw
Ja, is zeker niet verkeerd.quote:
Begint direct goed deze. Leuk gezichtje, goede tieten. Zou blij zijn met haar als match.
Wel sneu, die nerdsquote:
Mijn gesprek met de chatrobot van Bol.com vanmiddag ging nog soepeler dan dit
quote:
Mijn gesprek met de chatrobot van Bol.com vanmiddag ging nog soepeler dan dit
Oh bah, ik zie het nu pas dat glitterlichaamquote:
Nou, helaas...quote:
Ik hoop dat ze gaan Knuffelen, de nerds. Lekker knuffelen, ze hebben het allebei nodig
Jammerquote:
Overigens ben ik nu last man standing in dit topic?
Maar meestal hebben ze iets waarvan ik denk, er schemert iets typisch Brits door en daar heb ik niet zoveel mee.
Beter dan dit domme wicht.Die jongen is wel helemaal van slag door haar
Oh dat doet zij al, wat een ontzettende bitch
Fuck yeahhhhquote:
Lekker bipsje ook!quote:
Nee, zit wat in z'n oog.quote:
En dat is hem van harte gegundquote:
Haar ook. Zo'n lief onzeker meisje.quote:
Altijd vrolijk..quote:
Zou ik he-le-maal gestoord van worden. Mensen die lachen om allesquote:
Die date van die blinde heeft er ook een handje van.
Nice movie..quote:
Wel 'n beetje een propjequote:
quote:
quote:
....”Die paarsharige dus
TADAAAAAA I’M HERE
52
Nee bedanktquote:
Niet de pinguïn
fuck wat tenenkrommend.Met anderhalf uur visagie p.p.quote:
Dan maar geen make up eraf halen elke svondquote:
Ze neemt een pornstar
quote:
Ik gun die vrouw oprecht veel geluk, maar wel met de Noordzee ertussen.
( in de porn star dus hè)
Het word wel uit een martiniglas gedronken.quote:
Zoet vrouwendrankje. Vast lekker.quote:
Kennelijk is wodka de basisquote:
[..]
Het word wel uit een martiniglas gedronken.
Lijkt mij nochthans niks aan, mierzoetquote:
Dat vruchtensap maakt het minder zoet, merk ik bij andere drankjes.quote:
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Kennelijk is wodka de basis
[..]
Likkt mij nochthans niks aan, mierzoet
Limoensap voegt wel wat zuur/bitter toe om het een beetje te balanceren.quote:
[..]
Kennelijk is wodka de basis
[..]
Likkt mij nochthans niks aan, mierzoet
En vanillevodka is echt een wereld van verschil. Wel een aanrader als je het zelf wil maken. Drink ook White Russians alleen met vanillevodka. Past beter bij de Kahlua.
Oké dan, thx voor de tipquote:
[..]
Limoensap voegt wel wat zuur/bitter toe om het een beetje te balanceren.
En vanillevodka is echt een wereld van verschil. Wel een aanrader als je het zelf wil maken.
Me neitherquote:
Er werd niet verteld hoe het met hen verder gingquote:
Einde gemist hier..........tadaa-vrouw gun ik het wel
.Ah, bummerquote:Op woensdag 1 juli 2020 20:19 schreef NoCigar het volgende:
[..]
Er werd niet verteld hoe het met hen verder ging
Niet gekeken vanavondquote:
Einde gemist hier..........tadaa-vrouw gun ik het wel
Maar die was er gisteren toch ook, die vrouw?
Ja, ze was er weer! Met hernieuwde energie en minder zenuwen èn een geslaagde datequote:
[..]
Niet gekeken vanavond
Maar die was er gisteren toch ook, die vrouw?
Sickquote:
[..]
Ja, ze was er weer! Met hernieuwde energie en minder zenuwen èn een geslaagde date
met haar zoetgevooisde stem! . vaag wief.Veel gerookt, gedronken en gezonnebankt...gok ikquote:
jemig die heeft op elke mogelijke plek een rimpel.
Dirty Old Man
Wat een baas.quote:
43 volgens mijquote:
Dat wordt opschieten. Afschuwelijke oog-make-up weer, of hoe noem je dat.quote:
Jep.quote:
[..]
Dat wordt opschieten. Afschuwelijke oog-make-up weer, of hoe noem je dat.
Mascara?
Nepwimpers ook
Ja, dat allemaal, rond de ogen t/m de wenkbrauwquote:
Haha, ja oogschaduw in overvloed ookquote:
[..]
Ja, dat allemaal, rond de ogen t/m de wenkbrauw
Neh, net als dat mensen elke ginger op Ed Sheeran vinden lijken eigenlijk.quote:
Cici
De oudjes waren leuk samen.
Bartender: Maar natuurlijk.....
Ze kan het wel hebben eigenlijk.quote:
Zonde van korte haar, ze heeft wel leuke twinkeling.
In de nazit had ze ander make up leek het, stond ook veel beter.quote:Op woensdag 8 juli 2020 20:00 schreef NoCigar het volgende:
Wat meer haar was wel beter geweest denk ik.
quote:
.En het is ordinair.quote:
Wat is dit nou weer? Ik hou niet van veranderingen
Missing all the fun
Italië toch?quote:
Oh? Ik dacht Italiėquote:
Sneu zegquote:Op donderdag 9 juli 2020 19:41 schreef NoCigar het volgende:
' Sam Reece, a participant on the show, says that he received death threats from viewers on Twitter after he asked to split the bill with his date.'
Ik hoor wel de hele tijd Griekse deuntjes? Maar misschien zijn die wel Italiaans.quote:
Mediterraanquote:
[..]
Ik hoor wel de hele tijd Griekse deuntjes? Maar misschien zijn die wel Italiaans.
On one level, it appeals to our best instincts. Deep down, we all enjoy happy, loved-up endings, and it can be encouraging to see the show's contestants, many of whom are portrayed as hopelessly lovelorn, forge real connections.
For some, the show has even led to wedding bells: Adam Stewart and Dan Muncaster-Ross, who met on the programme in 2015, have been together ever since their "first date" and, last we heard, were planning a wedding for early 2019.
Adam and Dan on First Dates
That said, First Dates can also appeal to our less generous emotions. Who doesn't like gawping at mismatched couples as they vainly struggle to find something in common, or watching in gleeful fascination as conversations become progressively more stilted? (Yes, the show ostensibly does it best to pair people up based on shared tastes – more on that later – but it doesn't always get things right.)
Most painful of all are the encounters in which one dater admits to being quite keen on seeing their dinner partner again, while the other confesses a complete lack of interest.
But how exactly does the show pair its couples up in the first place? And what's it really like to take part in a televised blind date?
We caught up with some past contestants to find out what goes on behind the scenes.
Expect a lot of preliminary questions - and a filmed audition
If you're thinking of going on the show, your first step is to fill out an online application form. But be warned: if your application manages to catch the eye of one of the show's researchers, that's only the beginning.
"For my application I sent a photo and a video of me, doing a presenting thing at university," says Joel, who appeared in an episode of the show that was filmed in September 2015 and first broadcast in the December of that year.
"My bio was just who I was and what I’d been doing. I was really honest about my background: about never really having had a long-term relationship before, but obviously wanting one.
The First Dates application form
"A month later I got a 45 minute phone call, about myself, what I was looking for, what I liked and didn’t like. I told them all about my history. And then I was invited for an initial kind of screening, which was just on the camera, answering very similar questions.
"And about a month and a half after that, they said ‘We’ve matched you with someone, and can you do these dates, and this time?’
"You have to do a pre-date interview, in the room with the heart behind it. That’s the one they show on TV. The one you film on camera before that, they claim they use that as the benchmark, to discuss and work out why you [and your eventual date] would be good matches for each other."
Amelia Murray, a Telegraph journalist who appeared First Dates in November 2015, also warns that, if you're interested in appearing on the show, it's definitely worth factoring in the time commitment.
"It’s quite an investment," she says. "You have your initial phone interview, during which they ask for a bit of background and suss out if you’re interesting or not. And then they invite you for what they call an audition. It’s kind of like a mock up of the interviews [that they show in the programme]. And then you go in again, for the actual interview, the one they use, and then you go on the date. So if you’re working full time, that is a lot of time."
There are cameras - and microphones - everywhere
"I don’t really get that phased by the cameras, so that was all right," Joel explains. "But they’re there. They’re little tiny spheres, about seven or eight inches across, and they are around the whole room. There’s about 20 or 30 of them. So at any one time you probably have three to six cameras on you, but you can’t see where they’re facing."
You might not be entirely comfortable with how you come across on screen
Both Joel and Amelia says that, while they were aware that their dates would be edited, they didn't initially think about quite how this would work.
“After the date I realised they summarise an entire hour and a half date, and the hour-long interview beforehand, into about eight minutes," says Joel. "I knew they would have to heavily edit it, so I was nervous about what they would show me as, and I had a feeling they would show me as a young, preppy city person, which is kind of fair.
"Ultimately, everything that they showed, I did say. But a lot of the context was taken out of it. My personal favourite moment was when they said ‘Do you have any doppelgangers?’ and I said ‘Not really.’ And they said ‘What about Prince William?’ and I said “I don’t think I have a Prince William look.’ And they used ‘I have a Prince William look’."
20 of the Most Useful Dating Sites
The good news, Joel adds, is that he was told in advance what his edit would look like.
"They give you a call a few days in advance saying ‘This is what we’re going to show of you, this is the rundown of all the things, how you’ll be portrayed, this is your scene’. They talk it through with you, and then you see it. So from that I sort of knew what kind of angle they were going for with me."
The matching process isn't entirely without its flaws
Amelia, who decided not to watch her episode through, but learned about it from friends and family, says that she feels she was perhaps pushed into a box by the show's producers, who wanted to portray her as one half of a 'hipster couple'. (Looking at her date, it's difficult to disagree.)
"It does kind of feel that they have decided what character they’re going to make you beforehand, or during the process," she explains.
"I think that’s what annoyed me: why ask me about my views on immigration, or my views on politics, if you’ve basically decided I’m going to be ‘the hipster’? It doesn’t matter what your say, or what your views are, or how intelligent you are: they’ve basically made a snap judgement about you on your appearance. They make you into a character, and it’s two-dimensional.
Amelia on First Dates
When the guy walked in, I was a bit like ’Oh...I see what they’ve done here’. It made me determined not to play the part, which was difficult from a visual perspective – I was wearing a bright dress; I’ve got curly hair…"
Ultimately, Amelia says, it was frustrating to realise that, no matter how much the programme makers might talk about love, the need to make "good TV" is also always going to be a consideration.
"I never went on the show to find love: it’s an experience," she says. "But the whole time they keep telling you ‘we’re working really hard to find your perfect match’. They keep using the ‘perfect match’ language, which they really push – and then in retrospect you realise it wasn’t about that.
"They do all this research, and ask you what you want - and then it feels like they just threw all their notes in the bin."
What you see on screen might not be the full story
"You have self control, but you have no control over what they’re going to do. Before your episode airs, they call to talk you through the edits. And you know it’s all you, it’s everything you’ve said - but they also have to explain the narrative they’ve created," says Amelia.
As an example. she points to a moment when, towards the end of her date (which was not romantically successful), she decided to see if her dining partner Josh fancied getting a few drinks away from the cameras.
“It was 9.30 on a Saturday night and we’d just had this weird experience together,” she explains. But they cut it so it looked like I was begging him for another drink. They turned me into this tragic figure.”
Amelia and Josh on First Dates CREDIT: CHANNEL 4
You might get recognised after your episode is broadcast
"I didn’t realise how many people watched the programme, and it is really strange, having people comment on something you were in that you never saw," says Amelia. "At Notting Hill Carnival, my friends and I put a bet on it, and I think 12 people came up to me.
"Everyone is totally cool, and so sweet and so kind. No one has been aggressive, or in your face. But when you’re not feeling great, or you’ve just left your house and there’s a teenage girl and she’s like ‘Oh my god! Can I get a selfie?’..."
"I now say: ‘It’s lovely to meet you, but I’m not going to have a photo with you I’m afraid, sorry.’
"You kind of feel like you’ve suddenly been put on the spot, and you’ve got to perform, because people have seen you as a character on TV. They’re expecting you to be the same, or be better, or just be something, when actually you’re just a normal person."
Both Joel and Amelia also say that it's worth remembering that your appearance on the show won't just be a once-off: thanks to on-demand TV and re-runs, people will continue to recognise your for years after your episode first airs.
All the other couples you see in the restaurant are also part of the show
While the Paternoster Chop House, the London-based establishment where the show is filmed, is a real, working restaurant, the eatery is cleared out to allow the First Dates filming to take place, and popular Maître d' Fred Sirieix and the serving team are brought in as part of the show.
Earlier this year, it was also reported that First Dates was advertising for "background couples", offering applicants £25 towards a meal at the Paternoster in return for their services as extras.
Fred Sirieix CREDIT: CHANNEL 4
In years past, however, the other diners you see on the programme have also all been blind daters – with the programme-makers selecting them from the pool of hopeful applicants.
"There were the main people who are going to be on TV, and they were mic'd up, and there were cameras everywhere. But I wasn't mic'd up, so I knew on the day that I wasn't going to be one of the main ones," explains Steve, who appeared on the show as a "background dater" in one of the early series.
But despite the fact that he wasn't shown on TV (other than as an extra), Steve, and his fellow extras, still all took part in a blind date.
"It was quite funny, because I'd never been on a blind date before, but beforehand we were sent to a holding area: all the men in one room, and the girls in the other."
The good things about this approach, he says, is that being in the same boat as everyone else was actually quite calming: "If it'd been a normal first date I'd probably have been more nervous."
Like Amelia and Joel, Steve was also asked advance about what kind of person he'd like to date – and feels like the programme-makers at least made a stab at getting it right.
"I said I like blondes, and I like accents," he says. "And I got paired with a Geordie brunette, so..."
Heeeel veeeeel tekstquote:
Voorhet weekend: The romance-themed Channel 4 reality show, a new series of which starts tonight, first sidled (nervously, rose in hand) on to our TV screens in 2013, and has retained a spot in the hearts of viewers ever since.
On one level, it appeals to our best instincts. Deep down, we all enjoy happy, loved-up endings, and it can be encouraging to see the show's contestants, many of whom are portrayed as hopelessly lovelorn, forge real connections.
For some, the show has even led to wedding bells: Adam Stewart and Dan Muncaster-Ross, who met on the programme in 2015, have been together ever since their "first date" and, last we heard, were planning a wedding for early 2019.
Adam and Dan on First Dates
That said, First Dates can also appeal to our less generous emotions. Who doesn't like gawping at mismatched couples as they vainly struggle to find something in common, or watching in gleeful fascination as conversations become progressively more stilted? (Yes, the show ostensibly does it best to pair people up based on shared tastes – more on that later – but it doesn't always get things right.)
Most painful of all are the encounters in which one dater admits to being quite keen on seeing their dinner partner again, while the other confesses a complete lack of interest.
But how exactly does the show pair its couples up in the first place? And what's it really like to take part in a televised blind date?
We caught up with some past contestants to find out what goes on behind the scenes.
Expect a lot of preliminary questions - and a filmed audition
If you're thinking of going on the show, your first step is to fill out an online application form. But be warned: if your application manages to catch the eye of one of the show's researchers, that's only the beginning.
"For my application I sent a photo and a video of me, doing a presenting thing at university," says Joel, who appeared in an episode of the show that was filmed in September 2015 and first broadcast in the December of that year.
"My bio was just who I was and what I’d been doing. I was really honest about my background: about never really having had a long-term relationship before, but obviously wanting one.
The First Dates application form
"A month later I got a 45 minute phone call, about myself, what I was looking for, what I liked and didn’t like. I told them all about my history. And then I was invited for an initial kind of screening, which was just on the camera, answering very similar questions.
"And about a month and a half after that, they said ‘We’ve matched you with someone, and can you do these dates, and this time?’
"You have to do a pre-date interview, in the room with the heart behind it. That’s the one they show on TV. The one you film on camera before that, they claim they use that as the benchmark, to discuss and work out why you [and your eventual date] would be good matches for each other."
Amelia Murray, a Telegraph journalist who appeared First Dates in November 2015, also warns that, if you're interested in appearing on the show, it's definitely worth factoring in the time commitment.
"It’s quite an investment," she says. "You have your initial phone interview, during which they ask for a bit of background and suss out if you’re interesting or not. And then they invite you for what they call an audition. It’s kind of like a mock up of the interviews [that they show in the programme]. And then you go in again, for the actual interview, the one they use, and then you go on the date. So if you’re working full time, that is a lot of time."
There are cameras - and microphones - everywhere
"I don’t really get that phased by the cameras, so that was all right," Joel explains. "But they’re there. They’re little tiny spheres, about seven or eight inches across, and they are around the whole room. There’s about 20 or 30 of them. So at any one time you probably have three to six cameras on you, but you can’t see where they’re facing."
You might not be entirely comfortable with how you come across on screen
Both Joel and Amelia says that, while they were aware that their dates would be edited, they didn't initially think about quite how this would work.
“After the date I realised they summarise an entire hour and a half date, and the hour-long interview beforehand, into about eight minutes," says Joel. "I knew they would have to heavily edit it, so I was nervous about what they would show me as, and I had a feeling they would show me as a young, preppy city person, which is kind of fair.
"Ultimately, everything that they showed, I did say. But a lot of the context was taken out of it. My personal favourite moment was when they said ‘Do you have any doppelgangers?’ and I said ‘Not really.’ And they said ‘What about Prince William?’ and I said “I don’t think I have a Prince William look.’ And they used ‘I have a Prince William look’."
20 of the Most Useful Dating Sites
The good news, Joel adds, is that he was told in advance what his edit would look like.
"They give you a call a few days in advance saying ‘This is what we’re going to show of you, this is the rundown of all the things, how you’ll be portrayed, this is your scene’. They talk it through with you, and then you see it. So from that I sort of knew what kind of angle they were going for with me."
The matching process isn't entirely without its flaws
Amelia, who decided not to watch her episode through, but learned about it from friends and family, says that she feels she was perhaps pushed into a box by the show's producers, who wanted to portray her as one half of a 'hipster couple'. (Looking at her date, it's difficult to disagree.)
"It does kind of feel that they have decided what character they’re going to make you beforehand, or during the process," she explains.
"I think that’s what annoyed me: why ask me about my views on immigration, or my views on politics, if you’ve basically decided I’m going to be ‘the hipster’? It doesn’t matter what your say, or what your views are, or how intelligent you are: they’ve basically made a snap judgement about you on your appearance. They make you into a character, and it’s two-dimensional.
Amelia on First Dates
When the guy walked in, I was a bit like ’Oh...I see what they’ve done here’. It made me determined not to play the part, which was difficult from a visual perspective – I was wearing a bright dress; I’ve got curly hair…"
Ultimately, Amelia says, it was frustrating to realise that, no matter how much the programme makers might talk about love, the need to make "good TV" is also always going to be a consideration.
"I never went on the show to find love: it’s an experience," she says. "But the whole time they keep telling you ‘we’re working really hard to find your perfect match’. They keep using the ‘perfect match’ language, which they really push – and then in retrospect you realise it wasn’t about that.
"They do all this research, and ask you what you want - and then it feels like they just threw all their notes in the bin."
What you see on screen might not be the full story
"You have self control, but you have no control over what they’re going to do. Before your episode airs, they call to talk you through the edits. And you know it’s all you, it’s everything you’ve said - but they also have to explain the narrative they’ve created," says Amelia.
As an example. she points to a moment when, towards the end of her date (which was not romantically successful), she decided to see if her dining partner Josh fancied getting a few drinks away from the cameras.
“It was 9.30 on a Saturday night and we’d just had this weird experience together,” she explains. But they cut it so it looked like I was begging him for another drink. They turned me into this tragic figure.”
Amelia and Josh on First Dates CREDIT: CHANNEL 4
You might get recognised after your episode is broadcast
"I didn’t realise how many people watched the programme, and it is really strange, having people comment on something you were in that you never saw," says Amelia. "At Notting Hill Carnival, my friends and I put a bet on it, and I think 12 people came up to me.
"Everyone is totally cool, and so sweet and so kind. No one has been aggressive, or in your face. But when you’re not feeling great, or you’ve just left your house and there’s a teenage girl and she’s like ‘Oh my god! Can I get a selfie?’..."
"I now say: ‘It’s lovely to meet you, but I’m not going to have a photo with you I’m afraid, sorry.’
"You kind of feel like you’ve suddenly been put on the spot, and you’ve got to perform, because people have seen you as a character on TV. They’re expecting you to be the same, or be better, or just be something, when actually you’re just a normal person."
Both Joel and Amelia also say that it's worth remembering that your appearance on the show won't just be a once-off: thanks to on-demand TV and re-runs, people will continue to recognise your for years after your episode first airs.
All the other couples you see in the restaurant are also part of the show
While the Paternoster Chop House, the London-based establishment where the show is filmed, is a real, working restaurant, the eatery is cleared out to allow the First Dates filming to take place, and popular Maître d' Fred Sirieix and the serving team are brought in as part of the show.
Earlier this year, it was also reported that First Dates was advertising for "background couples", offering applicants £25 towards a meal at the Paternoster in return for their services as extras.
Fred Sirieix CREDIT: CHANNEL 4
In years past, however, the other diners you see on the programme have also all been blind daters – with the programme-makers selecting them from the pool of hopeful applicants.
"There were the main people who are going to be on TV, and they were mic'd up, and there were cameras everywhere. But I wasn't mic'd up, so I knew on the day that I wasn't going to be one of the main ones," explains Steve, who appeared on the show as a "background dater" in one of the early series.
But despite the fact that he wasn't shown on TV (other than as an extra), Steve, and his fellow extras, still all took part in a blind date.
"It was quite funny, because I'd never been on a blind date before, but beforehand we were sent to a holding area: all the men in one room, and the girls in the other."
The good things about this approach, he says, is that being in the same boat as everyone else was actually quite calming: "If it'd been a normal first date I'd probably have been more nervous."
Like Amelia and Joel, Steve was also asked advance about what kind of person he'd like to date – and feels like the programme-makers at least made a stab at getting it right.
"I said I like blondes, and I like accents," he says. "And I got paired with a Geordie brunette, so..."
Ja, sorry. Daarom, voor het weekend.quote:
Seizoen 3 en 4(huidige) geen idee. Ze hebben het over Griekenland, maar lijkt op Italië.
Ik zag spaghetti!quote:
Eerste en tweede seizoen waren in Frankrijk en Italië.
Seizoen 3 en 4(huidige) geen idee. Ze hebben het over Griekenland, maar lijkt op Italië.
Ik zag mozzarella!quote:
Op En een zakkenroller!quote:
Is dat typisch Italiaans?quote:
Beetje tochquote:
. Het is trouwens buccatini vermoed ik.Haha, ja tis wel dikke spaghetti iddquote:
[..]
Beetje toch