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dellipdervrijdag 3 april 2020 @ 11:57
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Verzameltopic over internationaal (politiek) nieuws en achtergronden bij het nieuws over het Coronavirus. Welke actualiteit brengt het White House Coronavirus Task Force? Wat is precies de achtergrond van de relatie tussen China en WHO en hoe precies beïnvloedt dit de aanpak van de bestrijding van het coronavirus? Wat kan er gezegd worden over genomen Europese maatregelen in relatie tot solidariteit onder de lidstaten?
Alle actualiteiten uit het buitenland en opvallende artikelen van de buitenlandse pers kunnen hier gepost en besproken worden.

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dellipdervrijdag 3 april 2020 @ 11:59
Hoewel het artikel ademt dat het een slechte ontwikkeling is is het niet onwaarschijnlijk dat de pandemie permanente veranderingen teweeg heeft gebracht. Het coronavirus bracht een probleem met de aanvoerketen aan het licht, omdat bedrijven de globalisering hebben omarmd in hun zoektocht naar goedkope arbeidsbronnen, soepele wetgeving en een gunstig belastingklimaat. Vooral de afhankelijkheid van medische goederen is pijnlijk, omdat het letterlijk over leven en dood gaat. China's ambitie is niets minder dan wereldheerschappij door controle van de maritieme handel .

The Coronavirus Is Killing Globalization as We Know It
Linkse_Boomknuffelaarvrijdag 3 april 2020 @ 12:06
dellipderzaterdag 4 april 2020 @ 10:43
Verrassend (not) dat een supranationale entiteit omgeven is door corruptie.
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The Crimes of Tedros Adhanom

Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, as well as being the first WHO director without a medical degree, also has a somewhat political background compared to his predecessors. On his online biography, the WHO lays out his qualifications as Ethiopian Minister of Health from 2002 to 2012, impressive stuff.

Aside from his medical credentials, Tedros happens to be a member of the Tigray People’s Liberation Front (TPLF) which is an organisation about as peaceful as its name suggests. Founded as a communist revolutionary party that came to power in 1991, it led a guerrilla campaign against the Mengistu dictatorship and formed a coalition with two other ethnic parties after his exile.

Over time, the TPLF began to exert more and more influence over the other two parties. Most military generals and key leaders within the government are Tigray, including the Prime Minister who ruled the country for 21 years before his death. The Tigray represent only 6% of the population of Ethiopia, one of the major ethnic groups are the Amhara who mostly made up the Mengistu regime.

Favourable treatment under Megistu created a lot of resentment towards the Amhara from other ethnic groups like for example the Oromo. Tedros himself hails from the Tigray region and was a senior member of the party and became involved with the TPLF after the removal of Mengistu. The same party that in its 1968 manifesto called the Amhrara people its ‘eternal enemy’. Just how senior was Tedros? Well this Ethiopian newspaper listed him as the 3rd most important member of the politbureau standing committee, which gives the impression he was more important than a simple medical administrator.

The TPLF was listed as a terrorist organisation by the US government in the 1990s, and is still listed as one by the Global Terror Database because of its unfortunate habit of carrying out armed assaults in rural areas.

The Amhara people have reported systematic discrimination and human rights abuses by the current government. Humans Rights Watch in 2010 wrote a report on how aid in the form of food and fertiliser was withheld from local Amhara villagers because of their affiliations with the opposition party. Other forms of aid denial involved the refusal of emergency healthcare by ministry of health workers; the same ministry which was at the time being led by one Tedros Adhanom.

The Amhara People’s Union, an activist group based in Washington, has issued many other accusations of human rights abuses against the TPLF led government, including noting that the birth rates in the Amhara region was far lower than those experienced in other regions. They noted at a session in Ethiopian parliament that, around 2 million Amhara were found to have “disappeared” from the population census.

Not content with denying aid to political dissidents, Tedros was also health minister at a time when the regime was accused of covering up epidemics. A cholera outbreak spread the region in 2007, infecting thousands in neighbouring countries. When it spread to Ethiopia, the government simply renamed the outbreak and called it Acute Watery Diarrhoea (AWD). International organisations were pressured not to call it Cholera (despite the UN testing the infected and finding Cholera), and were pressured by government employees not to reveal the number of infected. Another stunning victory for the health minister.

The deadly famine which struck Ethiopia in the 1980s forever associated the country with the word, but it’s not entirely a thing of the past. The WHO itself after pages of gushing reports on how well Ethiopia’s health sector was doing, admitted in 2016 that at least 8.6 million people still needed food aid to survive, and that the situation had not improved at all for at least four years. So at the end of Tedros’ illustrious term in office he could boast a mere remaining 8% of the population who would be left to starve to death without foreign aid.

But after his shining accomplishments in health, Tedros had bigger fish to fry. In 2012 he was appointed foreign minister and there quickly followed a crackdown on journalists and government opponents in the country, and an attempt to extradite those who had fled to Yemen in exile. The two countries entered negotiations to track down and deport dissidents from Yemen and imprison them in Ethiopia. Tedros himself led these negotiations, there’s even a nice picture of the medical man during the talks with the Yemeni foreign minister.

One such case was a British citizen Andy Tsege who was arrested at Sana’a airport and twice given a death sentence in Ethiopia. This led to the involvement of the British government who threatened denial of aid to Ethiopia unless he be granted asylum. Tedros responded that Tsege was “being treated very well. He even has a laptop, have you ever heard of a political prisoner with a laptop?” Andy of course, after his return to the UK told a somewhat different story of being tortured for days on end, alongside dozens of other prisoners.

One of the reasons perhaps that Tedros’ qualifications as foreign minister is absent from some of his online CVs, may be because of the mass protests that engulfed the country in 2016. The Ethiopian government a few years earlier had unveiled a plan to seize 1000 square miles of land to be requisitioned for investment. This also involved the forced relocation of 15000 people in the Oromia region, which the government said was good because where they lived they currently “lacked infrastructure”.

But the ingrates somehow didn’t appreciate this massive favour that the government was doing them, and mass protests broke out during a cultural celebration in 2016. The police responded at first with tear gas, and then later, with mass shootings. The violence and resulting stampede killed an estimated 500 people according to Human Rights Watch. The government then issued a state of emergency, arresting an estimated 70,000 people, and forced dozens of opposition journalists into exile.

Tedros himself got into a public spat with Human Rights Watch after their presentation, firstly denying that the numbers were as high as they were, and then claiming that the police were unarmed, here’s a video of the police at the event. Being no expert myself I assume that Ethiopia must have found a way to develop assault-rifle shaped crowd control devices that are entirely non-lethal, truly miraculous stuff from the Foreign Ministry.

And so this is the noble figure that ascended to the role of director of the WHO in 2017. Not one to miss a chance to defend mass murderers, he previously argued against the ICC trial of Uhuru Kenyatta under whose government 1,300 had been killed after rigged elections. Not surprising then, that one of the first things Tedros did after taking the job, was to nominate Robert Mugabe – thankfully now dead - as goodwill ambassador to the WHO; A man who ordered the killings of 20,000 people in Zimbabwe during the 1980s.

Tedros of course takes every chance he can to praise the good governance of China, and given the human rights record of the People’s Republic, it’s no wonder he likes them so much. From projects like media propaganda centres, mass relocations, and social credit style score cards, Ethiopia’s governance in many ways resembles a carbon copy of the Chinese authoritarian model. Complete with a one party state and focus on profit over human rights.

Ethiopia , until very recently, remained one of the world’s worst human rights violators, receiving a score of 19 out of 100 on the human freedom index for 2018, and a score of 150 out of 180 for freedom of the press. The government has remained in power since the takeover in 1991, and was seemingly so popular that it won more than one election by 100% of the vote.

So how did a man with a record like Tedros become director of the WHO? It’s quite simple really, the WHO has been riddled with scandal after scandal for some time now. Facing almost no rise in budgets during the 1990s, the WHO turned towards the corporate sector for additional funding, and by 2008, corporate donations made up 80% of the organisation’s budget.

According to health researcher Soniah Shah, the role that large drug companies played in shaping global health policy created a serious conflict of interest on the one hand to improve the companies’ public image, but on the other to protect their financial interests. This led to cases like lobbying to weaken patent laws for new drugs in India, and blocking laws in South Africa that attempted to make HIV treatment more accessible.

The serious misallocation of funds by the organization was made most apparent in 2016 when it was found that the WHO spent $200 million a year on travel expenses, not even including those paid for by the host country. Another absolutely damning report issued by the Associated Press, reported that WHO employees working to relieve the Cholera epidemic in Yemen had actually siphoned off the funds for officials. Some of these workers were later not even removed from their jobs.

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation played a large role in promoting Tedros. After their large investments into healthcare programs in Ethiopia which Tedros had facilitated, the foundation was keen to promote similar programs on a global level and donated billions to the WHO towards this end.

The appointment of someone as deeply unqualified as Tedros owes much to the labyrinthine structure of the WHO’s appointment process. The director is selected by the executive board, who are in turn appointed by a rotating minority of the World Health Assembly who are made up of health ministers appointed by world governments. The WHO therefore has the same problem as many other global institutions, that its director is an appointee of an appointee of an appointee of someone who may have been elected legitimately. So by the time you get to the director, the democratic mandate has been so thinly stretched as to be almost meaningless.

The media of course portrayed Tedros as a saintly figure on a moral mission to cure the world of deadly diseases. A twitter campaign slogan ran with “it’s time for an African to lead the WHO”. Indeed, one only wishes it hadn’t been an African in a regime that had spent the last few years killing and resettling more Africans than almost any other.

Some outlets have pointed out that the director general has little power over actual policy in the WHO, this misses the point that the organization is accepted as a global authority on matters of health, and advises world governments. The mismanagement of the WHO through people like Tedros has totally exacerbated the global coronavirus pandemic. Not only did Tedros find every opportunity to praise the CCP’s handling of the crisis even as doctors were being arrested and people welded inside their homes; he also gave completely contradictory advice. First saying that countries should not restrict travel to and from China so as not to be discriminatory, and then chiding them for not doing enough to prepare. The virus was only named a pandemic a few days ago at the time of writing, after infecting 140 countries which is 70 more than it took for Swine flu to be declared a pandemic.

If there was ever an example of the failure of globalised institutions, the WHO is it. I’m not here to say that the organisation has not done any good in the world, but the sheer scale of its mismanagement means that it’s advice should not carry anywhere near the weight that it does. Instead of advising tech companies on how to censor information, it should be radically reformed or simply disbanded.

In a sane world, instead of leading a global organisation, Tedros and his cronies would be put on trial at the International Criminal Court, tried for his crimes, and if found guilty, should spend the rest of his life in prison.
dellipderzaterdag 4 april 2020 @ 10:55
De kritiek op de WHO zwelt aan...
SkyNewsAust twitterde op vrijdag 03-04-2020 om 10:45:18 Outsiders host Rowan Dean says Australia should be pulling out of the World Health Organisation “tomorrow” as it has been “actively working against our interests and as a propaganda arm for the Chinese”.

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Rntk____ twitterde op donderdag 02-04-2020 om 04:16:23 WATCH: Japanese Deputy Prime Minister explain how the Chinese Communist government covered up the Wuhan #COVIDー19 epidemic, endangering millions. Says the World Health Organization should be renamed the “China Health Organization” bc they parrot CCP propaganda. https://t.co/rMaatXPBEq reageer retweet
bennyjohnson twitterde op zaterdag 04-04-2020 om 00:39:51 Dr. Deborah Birx: "I will remind you that on February 3rd the head of the @WHO said there was no reason to ever do a Travel Ban. You know, it wasn't until January 14th that we knew there was Human-to-Human Transmission."

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chuckwoolery twitterde op zaterdag 04-04-2020 om 06:30:50 Arizona's McSally Calls for 'Communist' Director of World Health Organization to Step Down https://t.co/M4UGOdXRwp https://t.co/QTy2g7r7yu reageer retweet
DailyCaller twitterde op zaterdag 04-04-2020 om 00:41:20 Jim Acosta interrupts Dr. Birx as she criticizes the WHO’s response to coronavirus
https://t.co/PAcqG9sW4K reageer retweet
dellipderzaterdag 4 april 2020 @ 14:10
Mogelijk een contraspionage insteek?
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The CIA Is Trying To Find China’s Real Coronavirus Data


The CIA is looking into China’s coronavirus data to find the real numbers after the U.S. intelligence community reportedly concluded Chinese President Xi Jinping’s regime had falsified the data.

The CIA believes the Chinese government does not know the true number of cases or deaths in the country, and has instead lied about the data, the New York Times reported Tuesday. The news comes as China touts a supposed drop in number of new cases in the country. China’s official death tally for the city of Wuhan has also been called into question.

“There’s no way to confirm any of those numbers,” National Security Adviser Robert O’Brien told NYT. “There’s lots of public reporting on whether the numbers are too low.”

President Donald Trump has been hesitant to attack China on the issue, however. He declined to say whether China’s numbers should be believed at a Wednesday press briefing despite the intelligence community’s conclusions being reported earlier that day.

U.S. politicians have also called for punishments on China and even the World Health Organization, which has parroted propaganda from the Chinese government throughout the pandemic.

Wuhan, where the virus first broke out, officially reported 2,500 deaths. But over the course of two days during the crisis, just one of the city’s eight mortuaries received shipments of 5,000 urns to carry ashes of the deceased, according to Shanghaiist.

The mortuary plans to release urns at a rate of 500 per day until April 4. If the city’s seven other mortuaries are adopting the same policy, that would total 40,000 urns, starting with the first confirmed delivery on March 26.
dellipderzaterdag 4 april 2020 @ 15:41
Ik ben het met Mark Rutte eens dat wereld na het Corornavirus er anders uit gaat zien. Dit is in elk geval de boodschap die duidelijk wordt gemaakt in het statement van Peter Navarro, econoom en onderdeel van de executive branche van de Trump-regering.

“One of the things that this crisis has taught us, sir, is that we are dangerously over dependent on a global supply chain.. Never again should we depend on the rest of the world for essential medicines and countermeasures.” -- Peter Navarro

DailyCaller twitterde op vrijdag 03-04-2020 om 00:51:22 Peter Navarro:

“One of the things that this crisis has taught us, sir, is that we are dangerously over dependent on a global supply chain.. Never again should we depend on the rest of the world for essential medicines and countermeasures.”
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dellipderzaterdag 4 april 2020 @ 20:16
De Verenigde Staten zijn een federatie waarbij de afzonderlijke staten hoge mate van autonomie bezitten. In deze pandemie is het aan de staten een keuze te maken wat over een lock-down. Staten zijn ook eerste verantwoordelijke voor een eigen rampenplan, inclusief materiaal. Staten heffen belasting waarmee ze het goede doel voor de inwoners van de staat dienen. Pas op een hoger level, indien er een nationale noodtoestand is uitgevaardigd doet de federale regering pas mee.

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Fact check: Did the Obama administration deplete the federal stockpile of N95 masks?

The claim: The Obama administration used and did not replenish the nation’s emergency stockpile of medical supplies, including N95 masks

As the novel coronavirus pandemic strains health care systems, questions around the U.S. government's response have circulated in the media and online.

On March 26, The Daily Wire published an article centering on the Obama administration’s role in using and allegedly failing to replenish the federal stockpile.

“The Obama administration significantly depleted the federal stockpile of N95 respirator masks to deal with the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009 and never rebuilt the stockpile despite calls to do so,” the piece begins.

USA TODAY investigation:US never spent enough on emergency stockpile, former managers say

The article draws from the reporting of outlets including Bloomberg News and the Los Angeles Times. According to Bloomberg News, “after the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009, which triggered a nationwide shortage of masks and caused a 2- to 3-year backlog orders for the N95 variety, the stockpile distributed about three-quarters of its inventory and didn’t build back the supply.”

“After the swine flu epidemic in 2009, a safety-equipment industry association and a federally sponsored task force both recommended that depleted supplies of N95 respirator masks, which filter out airborne particles, be replenished by the stockpile,” the Los Angeles Times reported.

On Wednesday, President Donald Trump said during a press conference the country’s stockpile of personal protective equipment, including medical gear like N95 masks, is almost depleted.

A history of the national emergency stockpile

Established in 1999 to prepare the country for threats like pandemics, natural disasters and acts of bioterrorism, the United States has used and maintained its Strategic National Stockpile of medical supplies during times of acute crisis in the health care system.

The reserve was originally named the National Pharmaceutical Stockpile, but was renamed during a 2003 restructuring when additional materials were added to the supply. The stockpile is jointly managed by the departments of Defense and Health and Human Services.

While officials rarely discuss specifics about the reserve, like the exact locations and value of its contents, the fund's restocking contracts are largely public, including [url=https://investors.emergentbiosolutions.com/news-releases/news-release-details/emergent-biosolutions-announces-exercise-barda-first-contract?field_nir_news_date_value[min]=]a July 2019 deal[/url] for vaccines valued at $1.5 billion.

Warnings about the United States' lack of preparedness for a serious pandemic have come from both inside the federal government and elsewhere since at least the early 2000s.

Fact check:Did Bill Gates predict the coronavirus in 2015?

“SARS has infected relatively few people nationwide, but it has raised concerns about preparedness for large-scale infectious disease outbreaks,” a 2003 analysis from the Government Accountability Office reads.

Fact check: A Bill Gates-backed pandemic simulation in October did not predict COVID-19

The stockpile has been used at least 13 times since its creation, including during the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks and 2001 anthrax attacks. Also during the George W. Bush administration, the national stockpile was deployed in response to hurricanes Katrina and Rita in 2005 and then again for Hurricanes Gustav and Ike in 2008, according to the stockpile's history published by the HHS.

In 2005, the Bush administration published a report that urged investment in local and national stockpiles, increasing domestic production capacity and coordinating research efforts toward cures and vaccines. In 2006, Congress approved expanding the stockpile to include protective gear like N95 surgical masks.

During the presidency of Barack Obama, the national stockpile was seriously taxed as the administration addressed multiple crises over eight years. About "75 percent of N95 respirators and 25 percent of face masks contained in the CDC's Strategic National Stockpile (∼100 million products) were deployed for use in health care settings over the course of the 2009 H1N1 pandemic response," according to a 2017 study in the journal Health Security.

Again according to NIH, the stockpile's resources were also used during hurricanes Alex, Irene, Isaac and Sandy. Flooding in 2010 in North Dakota also called for stockpile funds to be deployed. The 2014 outbreaks of the ebola virus and botulism, as well as the 2016 outbreak of the zika virus, continued to significantly tax the stockpile with no serious effort from the Obama administration to replenish the fund.

ProPublica reported on April 3 that congressional budget battles in the early years of the Obama administration contributed to stockpile shortages. "Among the victims of those partisan fights was the effort to keep adequate supplies of masks, ventilators, pharmaceuticals and other medical equipment on hand to respond to a public health crisis. Lawmakers in both parties raised the specter of shortchanging future disaster response even as they voted to approve the cuts," the article states.

During the presidency of Donald Trump, analysts have warned the United States is not prepared for a serious pandemic.

'Gross misjudment': Experts say Trump's decision to disband pandemic team hindered coronavirus response

“We assess that the United States and the world will remain vulnerable to the next flu pandemic or large scale outbreak of a contagious disease that could lead to massive rates of death and disability, severely affect the world economy, strain international resources, and increase calls on the United States for support,” the 2019 World Threat Assessment from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence states.

The Trump administration has not taken significant steps to replenish the Strategic National Stockpile.

Our rating: True

We rate this claim TRUE because it is supported by our research. There is no indication that the Obama administration took significant steps to replenish the Strategic National Stockpile after it was depleted from repeated crises during Obama’s tenure. Calls for action came from experts at the time concerned for the country’s ability to respond to future serious pandemics. Such recommendations were, for whatever reason, not heeded.

Our fact-check sources:


Department of Health and Human Services, Strategic National Stockpile: History
Government Accountability Office, 2003 Report on Public Health Capacity
Health Security, Personal Protective Equipment Supply Chain: Lessons Learned from Recent Public Health Emergency Responses
Homeland Security Council, 2005 National Strategy for Pandemic Influenza
National Institute of Health, The Strategic National Stockpile: Origin, Policy Foundations, and Federal Context
2019 Worldwide Threat Assessment of the US Intelligence Community
DireStraits7zaterdag 4 april 2020 @ 20:20
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2s.gif Op zaterdag 4 april 2020 10:55 schreef dellipder het volgende:
De kritiek op de WHO zwelt aan...

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Mooi collectie bijeengeraapte quotes. Ik heb even een willekeurige link aangeklikt:
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McSally cited Adhanon’s Communist ties when calling for his resignation in an interview with Fox Business.

“I’ve never trusted a communist. And their cover-up of this virus that originated with them, has caused unnecessary deaths around America and around the world.”
:')
DireStraits7zaterdag 4 april 2020 @ 20:24
DailyCaller twitterde op zaterdag 04-04-2020 om 00:41:20 Jim Acosta interrupts Dr. Birx as she criticizes the WHO’s response to coronavirus
https://t.co/PAcqG9sW4K reageer retweet
Deze tweet die je aanhaalt is overigens wel mooi. Het WHO keihard aanpakken op eerdere uitspraken, maar Trump mag niet gewezen worden op zijn uitspraken. Typisch weer.
dellipderzaterdag 4 april 2020 @ 20:26
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DailyCaller twitterde op zaterdag 04-04-2020 om 00:41:20 Jim Acosta interrupts Dr. Birx as she criticizes the WHO’s response to coronavirus
https://t.co/PAcqG9sW4K reageer retweet
Deze tweet die je aanhaalt is overigens wel mooi. Het WHO keihard aanpakken op eerdere uitspraken, maar Trump mag niet gewezen worden op zijn uitspraken. Typisch weer.
Aan precies welke regel of etiquette "dat Trump niet gewezen mag worden op zijn uitspraken" refereer je nu?
dellipderzaterdag 4 april 2020 @ 20:35
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Mooi collectie bijeengeraapte quotes. Ik heb even een willekeurige link aangeklikt:
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De kritiek beperkt zich niet tot wat citaatjes, het gaat ook over de president-generaal Tedros en de kritiek loopt al wat langer als de periode van deze pandemie.

The end is nigh for the World Health Organisation
The WHO is arguably no longer fit for purpose. Critics suggest it is slow to respond to crises,
needs radical reform, and stands accused of spreading fear. Oliver Bennett asks is there a future for WHO


WHO boss supported by China is now giving the nation too much credit on coronavirus, critics claim

COR / VS heeft een probleem #2 Weer open met Pasen
dellipderzaterdag 4 april 2020 @ 21:03
dellipderzaterdag 4 april 2020 @ 21:17
Voeg Slowakije toe aan de groeiende lijst met landen die Coronavirus-tests uit China hebben gekocht om erachter te komen dat de tests volledig crap zijn.
Spanje, Tsjechië, Turkije en vele andere landen kwamen precies allemaal bedrogen uit.

Europe turned to China for coronavirus testing help. Why some are now regretting it
DireStraits7zaterdag 4 april 2020 @ 22:42
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Aan precies welke regel of etiquette "dat Trump niet gewezen mag worden op zijn uitspraken" refereer je nu?
Aan Trump's eigen etiquettes.
dellipderzaterdag 4 april 2020 @ 23:04
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Aan Trump's eigen etiquettes.
Een beetje magere come-back. Heb je iets feitelijks, want emotie is geen argument?
DireStraits7zaterdag 4 april 2020 @ 23:06
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Een beetje magere come-back. Heb je iets feitelijks, want emotie is geen argument?
Waar heb je het allemaal over? In dat filmpje in die tweet blijkt duidelijk dat Trump niet gediend is van een vraag over zijn opmerking(en) dat Amerika niet in een crisis zou belanden. Dat vind ik nogal een hard gelag als ze blijkbaar wel de WHO aanvallen op eerder gedane uitspraken.
dellipderzaterdag 4 april 2020 @ 23:08
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Waar heb je het allemaal over? In dat filmpje in die tweet blijkt duidelijk dat Trump niet gediend is van een vraag over zijn opmerking(en) dat Amerika niet in een crisis zou belanden. Dat vind ik nogal een hard gelag als ze blijkbaar wel de WHO aanvallen op eerder gedane uitspraken.
Whatever wat hij ervan vindt. Jouw bewering was "dat Trump niet gewezen mag worden op zijn uitspraken". Lul niet zo dom of beantwoord mijn vraag direct! Het is het een of het ander.
DireStraits7zaterdag 4 april 2020 @ 23:09
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Whatever wat hij ervan vindt. Jouw bewering was "dat Trump niet gewezen mag worden op zijn uitspraken".
Hij wordt toch afgekapt, of niet?
dellipderzaterdag 4 april 2020 @ 23:11
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Hij wordt toch afgekapt, of niet?
In het filmpje waarop je reageerde, is het Dr Birx die wordt afgekapt door Abillio Acosta.
DireStraits7zaterdag 4 april 2020 @ 23:12
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In het filmpje waarop je reageerde, is het Dr Birx die wordt afgekapt door Abillio Acosta.
Ja, omdat ze in het Witte Huis doen alsof ze boter op hun hoofd hebben.
dellipderzaterdag 4 april 2020 @ 23:16
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Ja, omdat ze in het Witte Huis doen alsof ze boter op hun hoofd hebben.
Nee, omdat #fakenewsmedia CNN een onbeschofte "journalist" naar het Witte Huis stuurt die aan mansplaning doet. Erg politiek incorrect.
Dus nee, je loopt maar wat te fantaseren. Niemand behalve degene van de Corona Taskforce werd afgekapt-geinterrumpeerd. Je hebt het precies andersom. En dit is best knap.
DireStraits7zaterdag 4 april 2020 @ 23:17
Weet je, succes met je topic. ^O^
dellipderzondag 5 april 2020 @ 01:53
-oud nieuws-
Smack10zondag 5 april 2020 @ 02:07
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Ja, omdat ze in het Witte Huis doen alsof ze boter op hun hoofd hebben.
Net zoals bij het RIVM, maar daar hoor ik je niet over. :')
DireStraits7zondag 5 april 2020 @ 11:26
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Net zoals bij het RIVM, maar daar hoor ik je niet over. :')
Het verschil is dat jij leest in het RIVM wat je wil, maar daarbij niet de slagen om de arm meeneemt.

De enige domme uitspraak was m.b.t. carnaval. De rest hebben ze allemaal met de huidige stand van zaken gerapporteerd. Trump was aantoonbaar onzin aan het praten.

Daarbij is het RIVM continu gewezen op hun uitspraken en daar hebben ze dan bij de technische briefing daarop keurig antwoord op gegeven en kwamen niet met trumpiaanse kreten als 'dat was een gemene vraag!'.
dellipdermaandag 6 april 2020 @ 14:05
Japan heeft vergaande maatregelen aangekondigd in de bestrijding h=tegen het coronavirus, maar het is geen complete lockdown.

Japan to declare state of emergency for about a month, PM says
dellipdermaandag 6 april 2020 @ 14:09
In het Verenigd Koninkrijk hebben mensen gemotiveerd door het geloof dat 5G-technologie het coronavirus verspreidt verschillende 5G-masten in Belfast, Liverpool en Birmingham in brand gestoken.

5G-Virus Conspiracy Theory Fuels Mast Damage Amid U.K. Rollout
dellipderdinsdag 7 april 2020 @ 15:11
Als dit een consistente bevinding blijkt, zou daaraan aandacht besteed moeten worden, want dan moet er gezocht worden naar antwoorden.

The coronavirus seems to disproportionately kill African Americans, according to the few states providing data on the race of victims
dellipderdinsdag 7 april 2020 @ 15:30
De situatie van de Britse premier Boris Johnson is stabiel. Het klinkt positiever dan gisteren.

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson is ‘stable’ and in ‘good spirits’ in intensive care for coronavirus
wokkelfokdinsdag 7 april 2020 @ 15:35
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2s.gif Op dinsdag 7 april 2020 15:11 schreef dellipder het volgende:
Als dit een consistente bevinding blijkt, zou daaraan aandacht besteed moeten worden, want dan moet er gezocht worden naar antwoorden.

The coronavirus seems to disproportionately kill African Americans, according to the few states providing data on the race of victims
Aan die antwoorden heb je helaas nu weinig. Armoede is een pre existing condition en dat zie je jammer genoeg terug in de cijfers.
dellipderdinsdag 7 april 2020 @ 18:04
Ik heb een vaag vermoeden wat het topic zal zijn bij de aankomende Taskforce persconferentie.

realDonaldTrump twitterde op dinsdag 07-04-2020 om 17:04:16 The W.H.O. really blew it. For some reason, funded largely by the United States, yet very China centric. We will be giving that a good look. Fortunately I rejected their advice on keeping our borders open to China early on. Why did they give us such a faulty recommendation? reageer retweet
realDonaldTrump twitterde op dinsdag 07-04-2020 om 17:22:46 Why didn’t the I.G., who spent 8 years with the Obama Administration (Did she Report on the failed H1N1 Swine Flu debacle where 17,000 people died?), want to talk to the Admirals, Generals, V.P. & others in charge, before doing her report. Another Fake Dossier! reageer retweet
Bij dat laatste is het wel opmerkelijk dat de inspecteur-generaal het rapport eerst aan de media deelde en niet via de gebruikelijke kanalen en de mensen die zich bezighouden met de nationale noodsituatie.

robbystarbuck twitterde op dinsdag 07-04-2020 om 02:25:27 If you have any doubt the HHS IG report was a political hit job just watch this video of 4 star Admiral Harvard grad Dr. Giroir who’s in charge of testing. They never even reached out to him. They went to media. Totally irresponsible during a crisis. https://t.co/oZnhP8Pre8 reageer retweet
dellipderwoensdag 8 april 2020 @ 22:42
Opmerkelijke uitspraken:

smithmarion twitterde op woensdag 08-04-2020 om 22:28:08 BREAKING: @WHO head @DrTedros avoids media question on his PRC sympathies by threatening world with "many more body bags" if "we don't behave" or start "pointing fingers." Disgusting words by non-medical doctor and CCP stooge who receives $120+ million from US taxpayers annually. https://t.co/xMu0nzOpth reageer retweet
dellipderdonderdag 9 april 2020 @ 10:48
Ik heb het eerder ingebracht dat de pandemie de wereld er anders uit gaat zien. Er zal een andere perceptie tegen globalisering zijn. De afhankelijkheid van landen voor de productiemiddelen en goederen, die eigenlijk niet het allerbeste met ons voor hebben. Beleidsbeslissingen van bedrijven die natuurlijk op kort termijn heel lucratief kunnen zijn, maar op lange termijn grote schade kunnen verrichten en dan ook nog eens in relatie tot nationale veiligheid.
Er zal natuurlijk geen massale uittocht zijn, maar dat China bedrijven kwijt gaat raken is eigenlijk al ingezet.

spectatorindex twitterde op donderdag 09-04-2020 om 04:10:20 JAPAN: Government to spend over $2 billion to help its country's firms move production out of China reageer retweet
dellipdervrijdag 10 april 2020 @ 11:50
Kijk! De paus weet het. De corona pandemie is de straf van God, omdat men niet genoeg belastinggeld betaalt tegen de opwarming van de aarde.

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Pope Francis Says Pandemic Is ‘Nature’s Response’ to Human Inaction over Climate Change

ROME — Pope Francis said he believes the Chinese coronavirus pandemic is “certainly nature’s response” to humanity’s failure to address the “partial catastrophes” wrought by human-induced climate change.
Asked by British journalist Austen Ivereigh whether the COVID-19 crisis is an opportunity for an “ecological conversion,” the pontiff reasserted his belief that humanity has provoked nature by not responding adequately to the climate crisis.

“There is an expression in Spanish: ‘God always forgives, we forgive sometimes, but nature never forgives,’” Francis said in the interview published Wednesday. “We did not respond to the partial catastrophes. Who now speaks of the fires in Australia, or remembers that a year and a half ago a boat could cross the North Pole because the glaciers had all melted? Who speaks now of the floods?”

“I don’t know if it is nature’s revenge, but it is certainly nature’s response,” he added.

“Every crisis contains both danger and opportunity: the opportunity to move out from the danger,” he said. “Today I believe we have to slow down our rate of production and consumption and to learn to understand and contemplate the natural world.”

[...]
dellipderzaterdag 11 april 2020 @ 13:45
Een online gerucht dat Afrikanen het coronavirus zouden importeren en verspreiden in de Chinese stad Guangzhou heeft de autoriteiten daar doen besluiten om leden van de zwarte gemeenschap uit hun woningen te zetten. Er zijn online beelden opgedoken die laten zien dat Afrikanen buiten op straat worden opgepakt en worden afgevoerd.

Chinese City Evicted Scores Of Africans From Their Homes As WHO Accused Taiwan Of Stoking Racism
dellipderdinsdag 14 april 2020 @ 16:03
Een kleine tegenslag voor de Chinese onberispelijke staat van dienst op mensenrechten.

China McDonald apologises for Guangzhou ban on black people
dellipderdinsdag 14 april 2020 @ 16:38
Voor degenen die de talking points napraten dat er in de Verenigde Staten niets is gedaan, "bloed aan de handen", et cetera vermoed ik dat ze niet eens weten hoeveel COVID-19 zaken er waren op 21 februari in de Verenigde Staten.

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Het is niet serieus vol te houden te beargumenteren dat een volledige lockdown, full mitigation of nationale stay-at-home-order bij 34 gevallen COVID-19 zou moeten worden ingevoerd.
Niet vergeten dat de WHO pas op 11 maart COVID-19 als pandemie verklaarde. bron

De overal geprezen Dr. Fauci had nog op 18 februari gezegd dat de kans om besmet te raken met COVID-19 bijna te verwaarlozen was.

'Danger of getting coronavirus now is just minusculely low'

Alle ontwikkelingen van deze pandemie zijn gedocumenteerd, dus een compleet nieuwe geschiedenis schrijven is precies waarom dit als een nieuwe hoax van de Democrats (=/= DNC mediacomplex) wordt omschreven. Alsof het hier gaat om mensen met het Stockholm syndroom. Ruim 2 jaar hebben de media leugens verteld over de Russia collusion delusion, dat een hoax was waar tallozen instonken -en dachten dat de Amerikaanse president kerst 2017 daardoor niet een s zou halen- en dan wordt er nu weer vertrouwd op de visie van de media en hun talking points. Beyond repair.

Volledige timeline

Ook met bewegende beelden, uiteraard.
xpompompomxdinsdag 14 april 2020 @ 16:46
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2s.gif Op dinsdag 14 april 2020 16:38 schreef dellipder het volgende:
Voor degenen die de talking points napraten dat er in de Verenigde Staten niets is gedaan, "bloed aan de handen", et cetera vermoed ik dat ze niet eens weten hoeveel COVID-19 zaken er waren op 21 februari in de Verenigde Staten.

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Het is niet serieus vol te houden te beargumenteren dat een volledige lockdown, full mitigation of nationale stay-at-home-order bij 34 gevallen COVID-19 zou moeten worden ingevoerd.
Niet vergeten dat de WHO pas op 11 maart COVID-19 als pandemie verklaarde. bron

De overal geprezen Dr. Fauci had nog op 18 februari gezegd dat de kans om besmet te raken met COVID-19 bijna te verwaarlozen was.

'Danger of getting coronavirus now is just minusculely low'

Alle ontwikkelingen van deze pandemie zijn gedocumenteerd, dus een compleet nieuwe geschiedenis schrijven is precies waarom dit als een nieuwe hoax van de Democrats (=/= DNC mediacomplex) wordt omschreven. Alsof het hier gaat om mensen met het Stockholm syndroom. Ruim 2 jaar hebben de media leugens verteld over de Russia collusion delusion, dat een hoax was waar tallozen instonken -en dachten dat de Amerikaanse president kerst 2017 daardoor niet een s zou halen- en dan wordt er nu weer vertrouwd op de visie van de media en hun talking points. Beyond repair.

Volledige timeline

Ook met bewegende beelden, uiteraard.
Helemaal MAD.
dellipderdinsdag 14 april 2020 @ 16:47
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dellipderdinsdag 14 april 2020 @ 16:51
24 februari

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi: "Kom naar China town! Het is hartstikke veilig."

LizRNC twitterde op dinsdag 14-04-2020 om 00:28:10 Nancy Pelosi, 2/24/20:

"Come to Chinatown. Precautions have been taken...We think it's very safe and want others to come."

https://t.co/Pa41NRNf6k reageer retweet
xpompompomxdinsdag 14 april 2020 @ 16:51
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2s.gif Op dinsdag 14 april 2020 16:47 schreef dellipder het volgende:
Bekende inhoudelijke reactie van xxpornpornpromxxx
Je bnw-gebazel mag wel in het daartoe bestemde subforum.

Overigens, donaldjtrump.com als bron gebruiken voor het optreden van Trump _O-
xpompompomxdinsdag 14 april 2020 @ 16:52
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2s.gif Op dinsdag 14 april 2020 16:51 schreef dellipder het volgende:
24 februari

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi: "Kom naar China town! Het is hartstikke veilig."

LizRNC twitterde op dinsdag 14-04-2020 om 00:28:10 Nancy Pelosi, 2/24/20:

"Come to Chinatown. Precautions have been taken...We think it's very safe and want others to come."

https://t.co/Pa41NRNf6k reageer retweet
Zaten de kerken weer vol met Pasen?
dellipderdinsdag 14 april 2020 @ 16:58
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2s.gif Op dinsdag 14 april 2020 16:51 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:

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Je bnw-gebazel mag wel in het daartoe bestemde subforum.

Overigens, donaldjtrump.com als bron gebruiken voor het optreden van Trump _O-
Als er iets niet aan de tijdlijn klopt kom daar dan mee, maar werkelijke substantie dus met bewijs komen waarom de bron niet deugt, is natuurlijk teveel gevraagd. Gewoon weer dezelfde emotionele holle response zoals altijd.
xpompompomxdinsdag 14 april 2020 @ 17:04
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2s.gif Op dinsdag 14 april 2020 16:58 schreef dellipder het volgende:

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Als er iets niet aan de tijdlijn klopt kom daar dan mee, maar werkelijke substantie dus met bewijs komen [b]waarom de bron niet deugt, [/b]is natuurlijk teveel gevraagd. Gewoon weer dezelfde emotionele holle response zoals altijd.
Wij van wc-eend...
dellipderdinsdag 14 april 2020 @ 17:06
Gisteren 13 april de overal geprezen Dr. Fauci; "We kregen misinformatie van China".

SteveGuest twitterde op maandag 13-04-2020 om 01:38:18 Dr. Anthony Fauci: the United States got “misinformation” from China on the coronavirus https://t.co/qpd7BFhZi7 reageer retweet
Dit, terwijl de WHO in dezelfde periode bezig was COVID-19 te downplayen.

WHO says countries should keep borders open, trade & people moving despite coronavirus
dellipderdinsdag 14 april 2020 @ 17:14
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Wij van wc-eend...
Nee, dit is geen substantie (de tijdlijn klopt op <insert datum> niet, omdat <insert argument>), maar enkel emotie. Talking points inderdaad zoals een eend die loopt te kwaken, rondjes draait en op zijn poten schijt. Meer is het niet. Dit blijkt al, omdat ik een extra toelichting moet geven.
dellipderdinsdag 14 april 2020 @ 17:33
Opmerkelijk

SBergsma twitterde op dinsdag 14-04-2020 om 12:08:40 Duitse advocate Beate Bahner, die de afgelopen weken tegen de ongrondwettelijkheid van de coronamaatregelen procedeerde is nu in een psychiatrische kliniek opgenomen wegens 'verwarde indruk'.

De DDR is back. https://t.co/DUWNzMxZI6 reageer retweet
dellipderzondag 19 april 2020 @ 17:44
Hoofdredacteur van Bild heeft een column geschreven nadat de Chinese ambassade in Duitsland kritiek uitte op de manier waarop in de Duitse media coronavirus werd verslaan.

jreichelt twitterde op zaterdag 18-04-2020 om 10:42:55 China‘s embassy in Berlin wrote me an open letter because they weren‘t too happy with our Corona coverage. I responded.
Full version: https://t.co/BH1muj2hnh https://t.co/Q62H2G9ZqA reageer retweet
dellipdermaandag 20 april 2020 @ 00:01
Duitsland neemt de laatste dagen behoorlijk stelling, is mij opgevallen.

Germany sends China £130billion bill for 'coronavirus damages' – sparks fury in Beijing