[Britse politiek] #86 Komkommerkrommingstijd

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Op dinsdag 16 juli 2019 13:11 schreef zoost het volgende:
Nou, even voortmodderen tot 22 juli (de dag dat Boris wordt gekozen tot nieuwe PM) en dan kunnen we weer vooruit in dit topic met alle nieuwe ophef rondom zijn brexit strategie.

We gaan van de positie van de nieuwe UK PM "liever een no-deal brexit, dan een deal met back-stop"

https://www.theguardian.c(...)nt-be-in-any-eu-deal

Naar de EU; "deal zonder back-stop gaat niet gebeuren".

https://www.irishtimes.co(...)n-brussels-1.3956607

No-Deal, it is.

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Op dinsdag 16 juli 2019 14:19 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Inderdaad. Jammer voor de remainers. Maar laat ze maar gaar koken in hun eigen sop.
Hoeveel kansen heeft Westminster nodig?

Tory leadership: Hunt and Johnson interviewed by Neil - BBC News

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Op dinsdag 16 juli 2019 18:39 schreef devlinmr het volgende:

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Ach GATT artikel 24 paragraaf 5b gaat ze redden

Tory leadership: Hunt and Johnson interviewed by Neil - BBC News

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Op dinsdag 16 juli 2019 18:39 schreef devlinmr het volgende:

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Ach GATT artikel 24 paragraaf 5b gaat ze redden

Tory leadership: Hunt and Johnson interviewed by Neil - BBC News

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Op dinsdag 16 juli 2019 20:18 schreef Tijger_m het volgende:

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Het is alleen zo jammer dat ze 5C niet gelezen hebben

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Interim agreements have been avoided

Similar to customs unions and free trade agreements, the WTO must be notified of an interim agreement, but the rules are more stringent: members can demand changes if they are not convinced that the interim agreement will in fact lead to the planned full agreement within the proposed time-frame.

The possibility that other WTO members can block an “interim agreement” has proven to be enough of a deterrent that no WTO members have notified an interim agreement since 1995. Instead, many notified (non-interim) customs unions and free trade agreements include time-limited transitional arrangements.

If the UK and the EU agreed an arrangement which would qualify as an interim agreement under the GATT Article XXIV, it would therefore follow standard practice for the UK and the EU to notify it to the WTO as a full free trade agreement, rather than an interim agreement. Such an agreement would be in force until a future relationship is agreed.

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JMcCawberMEP twitterde op maandag 15-07-2019 om 21:01:12 Had a fantastic meal with my colleagues in The Brexit Party.A high point was Jon noticing a German MEP at the next table with his wife, so we all broke into the Dambusters theme.The manager asked us to keep it down. "You can't silence democracy" quipped Nigel.Brill! reageer retweet

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Op woensdag 17 juli 2019 17:29 schreef Perrin het volgende:

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JMcCawberMEP twitterde op maandag 15-07-2019 om 21:01:12 Had a fantastic meal with my colleagues in The Brexit Party.A high point was Jon noticing a German MEP at the next table with his wife, so we all broke into the Dambusters theme.The manager asked us to keep it down. "You can't silence democracy" quipped Nigel.Brill! reageer retweet

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Op woensdag 17 juli 2019 17:29 schreef Perrin het volgende:

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JMcCawberMEP twitterde op maandag 15-07-2019 om 21:01:12 Had a fantastic meal with my colleagues in The Brexit Party.A high point was Jon noticing a German MEP at the next table with his wife, so we all broke into the Dambusters theme.The manager asked us to keep it down. "You can't silence democracy" quipped Nigel.Brill! reageer retweet

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Lotto688Lotto twitterde op dinsdag 16-07-2019 om 19:40:07 @DalbidEU @JMcCawberMEP It’s a parody account, Eric, so I guess it’s just a wind-up. I got caught out by it earlier today. reageer retweet

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Op woensdag 17 juli 2019 17:53 schreef TargaFlorio het volgende:

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Lotto688Lotto twitterde op dinsdag 16-07-2019 om 19:40:07 @:DalbidEU @:JMcCawberMEP It’s a parody account, Eric, so I guess it’s just a wind-up. I got caught out by it earlier today. reageer retweet

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EU is 'unimpressed' by threats of no-deal Brexit - BBC

LONDON (Reuters) - The EU’s chief Brexit negotiator said in an interview to be published on Thursday that he was unimpressed by threats of no-deal Brexit but that if the United Kingdom opted for such a course it would have to face the consequences.

Asked by the BBC what would happen if London tore up its EU membership card, Michel Barnier said: “The UK will have to face the consequences.”

“I think that the UK side, which is well informed and competent and knows the way we work on the EU side, knew from the very beginning that we’ve never been impressed by such a threat,” Barnier said. “It’s not useful to use it”.

Barnier spoke to the BBC before Britain’s Conservative Party leadership contest. Boris Johnson, who is the frontrunner in the contest to replace Prime Minister Theresa May, has pledged to leave the EU with or without a deal on Oct. 31.

If Johnson wins, the three-year Brexit crisis could deepen as the EU has refused to countenance changing the Withdrawal Agreement and the British parliament could try to block a no-deal Brexit.

Barnier said the Withdrawal Agreement “is the only way to leave the EU in an orderly manner”.

EU Commission’s first vice-president, Frans Timmermans, told the BBC that UK ministers were “running around like idiots” when they arrived to negotiate Brexit in 2017.

Timmermans said he was shocked by the standard of the British negotiation after initially expecting a brilliant show.

“We thought they are so brilliant,” he said. “That in some vault somewhere in Westminster there will be a Harry Potter-like book with all the tricks and all the things in it to do.”

But then: “I thought, ‘Oh my God, they haven’t got a plan, they haven’t got a plan.’”

“Time’s running out and you don’t have a plan. It’s like Lance Corporal Jones, you know, ‘Don’t panic, don’t panic!’ Running around like idiots.”

Bron: Reuters

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The report that the OBR have published this morning shows that even in the most benign version of a no-deal exit there would be a very significant hit to the UK economy, a very significant reduction in tax revenues and a big increase in our national debt - a recession caused by a no-deal Brexit.

But that most benign version is not the version that is being talked about by prominent Brexiters. They are talking about a much harder version, which would cause much more disruption to our economy. And the OBR is clear that in that less benign version of no-deal the hit would be much greater, the impact would be much harder, the recession would be bigger.

So I greatly fear the impact on our economy and our public finances of the kind of no deal Brexit that is realistically being discussed now.

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Op donderdag 18 juli 2019 13:09 schreef beantherio het volgende:
Het OBR (feitelijk de Britse versie van het CPB) gaat los op de gevolgen van een "no deal": No-deal Brexit would plunge Britain into a recession, says OBR

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"I think the people in this country have had enough of experts "

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Op donderdag 18 juli 2019 13:09 schreef beantherio het volgende:
Het OBR (feitelijk de Britse versie van het CPB) gaat los op de gevolgen van een "no deal": No-deal Brexit would plunge Britain into a recession, says OBR

Philip Hammond (vermoedelijk slechts nog een paar dagen minister van financiën) houdt zijn mond ook niet meer. Quote van hem van vandaag:
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Panorama: Britain's Brexit Crisis will be broadcast on Thursday at 21:00 BST

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Op donderdag 18 juli 2019 15:59 schreef Boris_Karloff het volgende:
Boris Johnson blijft verder wel een totale idioot
https://www.theguardian.c(...)-fishy-brussels-says

nu blijkt dat beweringen die hij gisteren deed over EU regels gewoon UK regels zijn

Het trieste is wel dat de britten het slikken als zoete koek

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Johnson held aloft a plastic-wrapped kipper that had come from a fish smoker on the Isle of Man, who he said was “utterly furious”.

“After decades of sending them through the post like this he has had his costs massively increased by Brussels bureaucrats who are insisting that each kipper must be accompanied by a plastic ice pillow,”

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The case described by Mr Johnson falls outside the scope of the EU legislation and it’s purely a UK national competence

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Op woensdag 17 juli 2019 17:29 schreef Perrin het volgende:

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JMcCawberMEP twitterde op maandag 15-07-2019 om 21:01:12 Had a fantastic meal with my colleagues in The Brexit Party.A high point was Jon noticing a German MEP at the next table with his wife, so we all broke into the Dambusters theme.The manager asked us to keep it down. "You can't silence democracy" quipped Nigel.Brill! reageer retweet

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Op woensdag 17 juli 2019 17:29 schreef Perrin het volgende:

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JMcCawberMEP twitterde op maandag 15-07-2019 om 21:01:12 Had a fantastic meal with my colleagues in The Brexit Party.A high point was Jon noticing a German MEP at the next table with his wife, so we all broke into the Dambusters theme.The manager asked us to keep it down. "You can't silence democracy" quipped Nigel.Brill! reageer retweet

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Nigel Farage: two of my children have German passports

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Op donderdag 18 juli 2019 16:21 schreef Vader_Aardbei het volgende:

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Haha, dat is inderdaad fantastisch. Die Nigel is een baas. Hij zal worden gemist in het EP! Verdomme.

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Op donderdag 18 juli 2019 18:14 schreef Heph844 het volgende:

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Ik snap dit nooit zo goed eigenlijk.. Waarom is er toestemming nodig van het parlement om een no-deal Brexit door te voeren? Volgens mij is dat gewoon de standaard uitkomst op 31 oktober (tenzij een akkoord of nieuw uitstel)