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Ben jij sportief? Volg je alles wat met sport te maken heeft? Of heb je gewoon iets te melden of te vragen over een sport? Dan is dit het forum waar je zijn moet.
Dat van die anderhalf miljard wist Mart Smeets te melden voorafgaande aan de Rockets-Raptors game die zojuist in Tokio is gespeeld. Nou vind ik wel dat Mart vaak uit zijn nek zwamt, maar ik mag toch aannemen dat hij hier wel wat bronnen voor heeft geraadpleegt.quote:Op dinsdag 8 oktober 2019 14:29 schreef Mykonos het volgende:
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Anderhalf miljard? Waar heb je dat vandaan?
Ik begrijp dat geld koning is in dit soort zaken, maar ik zou het toch wel mooi vinden als de NBA een beetje integriteit toont en zijn poot stijf houdt in plaats van door het stof te gaan.
Dit soort ongein krijg je nu uit China:
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Bron
Het zijn toch een stel gestoorde autoritaire idioten daar? Ik mag toch hopen dat Silver wat meer integriteit heeft dan Trump en achter Morey blijft staan.
Much like down syndrom, red hair is a genetic mutation, and it occurs when a human has unprotected sex with a clown.
Wat denk je hoeveel geld de Rockets nu mislopen nu al hun wedstrijden die in China op tv zouden worden uitgezonden allemaal gecancelled zijn? Das geen kattepis denk ik. En zelfs Yao Ming is op die bandwagon gesprongen, das duidelijk ook geen fan van vrijheid van meningsuiting, alhoewel het hem voornamelijk te doen zal zijn om zijn baantje te beschermen.quote:
Blijkt wel weer dat geld boven mensenrechten staat. Ik ben een Rockets fan (Sinds Akeem Olajuwon) en vind het juist een mooi statement. Al zijn er natuurlijk altijd 2 kanten van het verhaal, en was de timing en medium niet handig. Hoop dat er juist sponsoren zijn die dit statement gebruiken om juist te gaan sponsoren, maar ja geld zal wel weer rulen.
Much like down syndrom, red hair is a genetic mutation, and it occurs when a human has unprotected sex with a clown.
Ik heb overal verstand van.quote:
Hathor, jij doet hier op dit forum toch ook niet anders dan je bemoeien met zaken waar je geen verstand van hebt? Heb je je werkgever hiervoor wel om toestemming gevraagd?
Much like down syndrom, red hair is a genetic mutation, and it occurs when a human has unprotected sex with a clown.
Silver neemt inderdaad stelling...
NBA Commissioner Adam Silver said the league is not apologizing for Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey’s since-deleted tweet showing support for anti-government protesters in Hong Kong, even after China’s state broadcaster canceled plans to show a pair of preseason games in that country later this week.
Silver, speaking Tuesday at a news conference in Tokyo before a preseason game between the Rockets and NBA champion Toronto Raptors, went as far as to say that he and the league are “apologetic” that so many Chinese officials and fans were upset by Morey’s tweet and comments that followed -- but insisted that Morey has the right to freedom of expression.
> Adam Silver's statement on NBA, China
“Daryl Morey, as general manager of the Houston Rockets, enjoys that right as one of our employees,” Silver said. “What I also tried to suggest is that I understand there are consequences from his freedom of speech and we will have to live with those consequences.”
Among those consequences: CCTV said it would not show the games between the Los Angeles Lakers and Brooklyn Nets, who will play Thursday in Shanghai and Saturday in Shenzhen. Basketball is wildly popular in China and those two teams -- largely because of LeBron James starring for the Lakers and Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba’s co-founder Joe Tsai now owning the Nets -- would have almost certainly been a huge television draw.
Adam Silver explains why he backs Daryl Morey's freedom of expression.
“We’re strongly dissatisfied and oppose Adam Silver’s claim to support Morey’s right to freedom of expression,” CCTV said in a statement. “We believe that any remarks that challenge national sovereignty and social stability are not within the scope of freedom of speech.”
The broadcaster is also reviewing all its cooperation and exchanges involving the NBA, said the statement posted to CCTV Sports’ official social media account.
Silver is going to Shanghai on Wednesday and said he hopes to meet with officials and some of the league’s business partners there in an effort to find some sort of common ground. He said he hopes Chinese officials and fans look at the totality of the impact of the three-decade-plus relationship between the league and their country, and urged them to see his response while acknowledging there are political differences between the countries.
“I’m sympathetic to our interests here and our partners that are upset,” Silver said. “I don’t think it’s inconsistent on one hand to be sympathetic to them and at the same time stand by our principles.”
Silver said the NBA did not expect CCTV to cancel plans to show the Lakers-Nets games. “But if those are the consequences of us adhering to our values, I still feel it’s very, very important to adhere to those values,” Silver said.
This rift between China and the NBA started late last week when Morey tweeted a now-deleted image that read “Fight for Freedom. Stand with Hong Kong,” in reference to months of pro-democracy demonstrations in the semiautonomous Chinese territory that has been mired in escalating violence between protesters and law enforcement.
Efforts were quickly made to defuse the impact; Rockets owner Tilman Fertitta said Morey does not speak for the Rockets, and Morey returned to Twitter on Monday in an effort to clarify his meaning. But damage was clearly done: at least one Chinese sporting goods company said it was no longer cooperating with the Rockets, NBA streaming partner Tencent -- which has a $1.5 billion contract with the league over the next five seasons -- said it would not show Rockets games and a sports news website in China said it was no longer covering the team.
Further complicating the matter is this: China’s best-known basketball player is Hall of Famer Yao Ming, who spent his NBA career with the Rockets. Yao is now the president of the Chinese Basketball Association, which has said it is suspending its relationship with the Rockets as part of the response to Morey’s tweet. The CBA also canceled plans to have the G League affiliates from Houston and Dallas play preseason games in China later this month.
“I’m hoping that together Yao Ming and I can find an accommodation,” Silver said. “But he is extremely hot at the moment, and I understand it.”
A ceremonial NBA Cares event for an educational center in Shanghai with the Nets was canceled Tuesday, though the Nets participated in other events as scheduled. The Lakers were arriving there Tuesday. Silver said NBA Cares would still honor its bigger mission surrounding that event, including providing a gift of new computers.
“How can it be possible to carry out exchanges and cooperation with China without knowing China’s public opinion?” Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesman Geng Shuang said Tuesday. “NBA’s cooperation with China has been going on for quite a long time, so for what should be said and what should be done, they know best.”
Rockets star James Harden made a point to apologize when addressing the media Monday in Japan.
“We apologize,” Harden said. “We love China. We love playing there. I know for both of us individually we go there once or twice a year. They show us the most support and love. So we appreciate them as a fan base and we love everything they’re about and we appreciate the support that they give us individually and as an organization.”
That support is being sternly tested, be it from tweets that were deleted, uproars over an NBA statement that had some of its meaning lost in translation when posted in Mandarin and even the cancellation announced Monday of two G League games to be played in China between the minor-league affiliates of the Rockets and the Dallas Mavericks.
At least one Chinese sporting goods company said it was no longer cooperating with the Rockets and a sports news website In China said it was no longer covering the team.
“There is no doubt, the economic impact is already clear,” Silver told Kyodo News in an interview Monday. “There have already been fairly dramatic consequences from that tweet, and I have read some of the media suggesting that we are not supporting Daryl Morey, but in fact we have.”
The NBA is enormously popular in China: Oft-cited figures from basketball executives in both the U.S. and China say that 300 million people play the game recreationally there and that about 500 million Chinese watched at least one NBA game last season.
The NBA’s relationship with China dates back about 30 years to the time when former Commissioner David Stern struck a deal with Chinese television to show games on a tape-delayed basis. Stern even talked about having an NBA-sponsored or branded league in China. The first league office there had three employees and flimsy furniture.
Now, about 200 NBA employees work in China in offices in Beijing and Shanghai. Games are streamed live and Chinese media cover all the league’s biggest events such as All-Star weekend and the NBA Finals. The league has played preseason games there for years, has three NBA academies in the country — designed to find the next star prospect -- and big-name players go there every offseason to promote their brand.
Retired Miami Heat guard Dwyane Wade has a lifetime contract with Chinese apparel company Li-Ning. Golden State guard Klay Thompson has a 10-year deal with another Chinese shoe company, Anta. Five-time champion Kobe Bryant has been visiting China annually for about two decades and is a massive star there, even now that his playing career is done.
The league has navigated its way around one thorny issue related to the U.S. and China in recent months: a trade war between the nations that includes back-and-forth tariffs. The Hong Kong tweet, though, is likely to present a much bigger test for the NBA.
“What I can tell you for sure is it’s not going to erase the decades of work that, you know, myself and everyone else in the NBA has put in in building a tremendous base for basketball in China,” Golden State Warriors COO Rick Welts said Monday in an appearance on CNBC. “And I think this will pass. And I do think our future in China is probably pretty remarkable.
Reynolds reported from Miami. Associated Press writer Yanan Wang and AP researcher Yu Bing in Beijing contributed to this report.
NBA Commissioner Adam Silver said the league is not apologizing for Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey’s since-deleted tweet showing support for anti-government protesters in Hong Kong, even after China’s state broadcaster canceled plans to show a pair of preseason games in that country later this week.
Silver, speaking Tuesday at a news conference in Tokyo before a preseason game between the Rockets and NBA champion Toronto Raptors, went as far as to say that he and the league are “apologetic” that so many Chinese officials and fans were upset by Morey’s tweet and comments that followed -- but insisted that Morey has the right to freedom of expression.
> Adam Silver's statement on NBA, China
“Daryl Morey, as general manager of the Houston Rockets, enjoys that right as one of our employees,” Silver said. “What I also tried to suggest is that I understand there are consequences from his freedom of speech and we will have to live with those consequences.”
Among those consequences: CCTV said it would not show the games between the Los Angeles Lakers and Brooklyn Nets, who will play Thursday in Shanghai and Saturday in Shenzhen. Basketball is wildly popular in China and those two teams -- largely because of LeBron James starring for the Lakers and Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba’s co-founder Joe Tsai now owning the Nets -- would have almost certainly been a huge television draw.
Adam Silver explains why he backs Daryl Morey's freedom of expression.
“We’re strongly dissatisfied and oppose Adam Silver’s claim to support Morey’s right to freedom of expression,” CCTV said in a statement. “We believe that any remarks that challenge national sovereignty and social stability are not within the scope of freedom of speech.”
The broadcaster is also reviewing all its cooperation and exchanges involving the NBA, said the statement posted to CCTV Sports’ official social media account.
Silver is going to Shanghai on Wednesday and said he hopes to meet with officials and some of the league’s business partners there in an effort to find some sort of common ground. He said he hopes Chinese officials and fans look at the totality of the impact of the three-decade-plus relationship between the league and their country, and urged them to see his response while acknowledging there are political differences between the countries.
“I’m sympathetic to our interests here and our partners that are upset,” Silver said. “I don’t think it’s inconsistent on one hand to be sympathetic to them and at the same time stand by our principles.”
Silver said the NBA did not expect CCTV to cancel plans to show the Lakers-Nets games. “But if those are the consequences of us adhering to our values, I still feel it’s very, very important to adhere to those values,” Silver said.
This rift between China and the NBA started late last week when Morey tweeted a now-deleted image that read “Fight for Freedom. Stand with Hong Kong,” in reference to months of pro-democracy demonstrations in the semiautonomous Chinese territory that has been mired in escalating violence between protesters and law enforcement.
Efforts were quickly made to defuse the impact; Rockets owner Tilman Fertitta said Morey does not speak for the Rockets, and Morey returned to Twitter on Monday in an effort to clarify his meaning. But damage was clearly done: at least one Chinese sporting goods company said it was no longer cooperating with the Rockets, NBA streaming partner Tencent -- which has a $1.5 billion contract with the league over the next five seasons -- said it would not show Rockets games and a sports news website in China said it was no longer covering the team.
Further complicating the matter is this: China’s best-known basketball player is Hall of Famer Yao Ming, who spent his NBA career with the Rockets. Yao is now the president of the Chinese Basketball Association, which has said it is suspending its relationship with the Rockets as part of the response to Morey’s tweet. The CBA also canceled plans to have the G League affiliates from Houston and Dallas play preseason games in China later this month.
“I’m hoping that together Yao Ming and I can find an accommodation,” Silver said. “But he is extremely hot at the moment, and I understand it.”
A ceremonial NBA Cares event for an educational center in Shanghai with the Nets was canceled Tuesday, though the Nets participated in other events as scheduled. The Lakers were arriving there Tuesday. Silver said NBA Cares would still honor its bigger mission surrounding that event, including providing a gift of new computers.
“How can it be possible to carry out exchanges and cooperation with China without knowing China’s public opinion?” Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesman Geng Shuang said Tuesday. “NBA’s cooperation with China has been going on for quite a long time, so for what should be said and what should be done, they know best.”
Rockets star James Harden made a point to apologize when addressing the media Monday in Japan.
“We apologize,” Harden said. “We love China. We love playing there. I know for both of us individually we go there once or twice a year. They show us the most support and love. So we appreciate them as a fan base and we love everything they’re about and we appreciate the support that they give us individually and as an organization.”
That support is being sternly tested, be it from tweets that were deleted, uproars over an NBA statement that had some of its meaning lost in translation when posted in Mandarin and even the cancellation announced Monday of two G League games to be played in China between the minor-league affiliates of the Rockets and the Dallas Mavericks.
At least one Chinese sporting goods company said it was no longer cooperating with the Rockets and a sports news website In China said it was no longer covering the team.
“There is no doubt, the economic impact is already clear,” Silver told Kyodo News in an interview Monday. “There have already been fairly dramatic consequences from that tweet, and I have read some of the media suggesting that we are not supporting Daryl Morey, but in fact we have.”
The NBA is enormously popular in China: Oft-cited figures from basketball executives in both the U.S. and China say that 300 million people play the game recreationally there and that about 500 million Chinese watched at least one NBA game last season.
The NBA’s relationship with China dates back about 30 years to the time when former Commissioner David Stern struck a deal with Chinese television to show games on a tape-delayed basis. Stern even talked about having an NBA-sponsored or branded league in China. The first league office there had three employees and flimsy furniture.
Now, about 200 NBA employees work in China in offices in Beijing and Shanghai. Games are streamed live and Chinese media cover all the league’s biggest events such as All-Star weekend and the NBA Finals. The league has played preseason games there for years, has three NBA academies in the country — designed to find the next star prospect -- and big-name players go there every offseason to promote their brand.
Retired Miami Heat guard Dwyane Wade has a lifetime contract with Chinese apparel company Li-Ning. Golden State guard Klay Thompson has a 10-year deal with another Chinese shoe company, Anta. Five-time champion Kobe Bryant has been visiting China annually for about two decades and is a massive star there, even now that his playing career is done.
The league has navigated its way around one thorny issue related to the U.S. and China in recent months: a trade war between the nations that includes back-and-forth tariffs. The Hong Kong tweet, though, is likely to present a much bigger test for the NBA.
“What I can tell you for sure is it’s not going to erase the decades of work that, you know, myself and everyone else in the NBA has put in in building a tremendous base for basketball in China,” Golden State Warriors COO Rick Welts said Monday in an appearance on CNBC. “And I think this will pass. And I do think our future in China is probably pretty remarkable.
Reynolds reported from Miami. Associated Press writer Yanan Wang and AP researcher Yu Bing in Beijing contributed to this report.
Much like down syndrom, red hair is a genetic mutation, and it occurs when a human has unprotected sex with a clown.
We zullen zien hoe de Chinezen reageren, aanstaande donderdag is Lakers-Nets in Shanghai, ook weer live op ziggo trouwens.
Much like down syndrom, red hair is a genetic mutation, and it occurs when a human has unprotected sex with a clown.
Dus omdat het geld kost, moet er maar niets gezegd worden? Het kan en dat zal ik ook begrijpen, maar ik vind het ook gaaf als het gewoon wordt uitgesproken. Wat als Iran of IS of een rechts extrimistische groep een club geld zou geven, moet er dan ook maar niets gezegd worden?
"Het is moeilijk met mensen om te gaan omdat zwijgen zo moeilijk is"
Zo werkt het wel vaak idd in Amerika. Gamer vandaag ook al z’n prijzengeld afgepakt en geschorst omdat die hongkong steunde.quote:
Dus omdat het geld kost, moet er maar niets gezegd worden? Het kan en dat zal ik ook begrijpen, maar ik vind het ook gaaf als het gewoon wordt uitgesproken. Wat als Iran of IS of een rechts extrimistische groep een club geld zou geven, moet er dan ook maar niets gezegd worden?
China is biljoenen... democratie telt dan opeens niet meer. Vrijheid van meningsuiting.. behalve als het geld kost. Aka: politieke correctheid die we in Nederland ook steeds meer zien.
Een oplettende kijker (volgens Mediacourant 15-4-20).
twitter:atrupar twitterde op woensdag 09-10-2019 om 22:21:34 Here's Trump mocking Steve Kerr https://t.co/5uP67tBNxB reageer retweet
Here's Trump mocking Steve Kerr
RED ONS HENNIEGOD
Godquote:Op woensdag 9 oktober 2019 22:33 schreef PowerLoungen het volgende:
twitter:atrupar twitterde op woensdag 09-10-2019 om 22:21:34 Here's Trump mocking Steve Kerr https://t.co/5uP67tBNxB reageer retweet
Dat zie je toch ook bij Trump die de andere kant opkijkt als zijn Saoedische vriendje een Amerikaans staatsburger laat martelen en doden, daar mag ook niets van gezegd worden want het zou eens geld kunnen kosten.quote:
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Zo werkt het wel vaak idd in Amerika. Gamer vandaag ook al z’n prijzengeld afgepakt en geschorst omdat die hongkong steunde.
China is biljoenen... democratie telt dan opeens niet meer. Vrijheid van meningsuiting.. behalve als het geld kost. Aka: politieke correctheid die we in Nederland ook steeds meer zien.
Denk eerlijk gezegd voor de komende 2 weken , meer niet. Hebben nu een extra center nodig omdat er 3 geblesseerd zijn.quote:Op vrijdag 11 oktober 2019 20:47 schreef PippenScottie het volgende:
Neefje van Scottie Pippen speelt dit seizoen bij de Warriors.
Kavion Pippen, 2m08, center.
RED ONS HENNIEGOD
Ik hoop dat hij nog wel ‘echte’ speelminuten krijgt.quote:
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Denk eerlijk gezegd voor de komende 2 weken , meer niet. Hebben nu een extra center nodig omdat er 3 geblesseerd zijn.
Pelicans zijn er goed uit in Preseason, lijken me wel een ploeg om in de gaten te houden dit jaar.
Much like down syndrom, red hair is a genetic mutation, and it occurs when a human has unprotected sex with a clown.
LeBron z’n comments over Morey vallen me wel een beetje tegen. Als het James in z’n portomonnee raakt is die blijkbaar niet zo van het uitspreken over dingen doe er toe doen.
Xbox Live Gamertag : ThaD16
Shut up and dribble dus.quote:
LeBron z’n comments over Morey vallen me wel een beetje tegen. Als het James in z’n portomonnee raakt is die blijkbaar niet zo van het uitspreken over dingen doe er toe doen.
"Ik heb nog met hem gekoerst"
Een beetje?quote:
LeBron z’n comments over Morey vallen me wel een beetje tegen. Als het James in z’n portomonnee raakt is die blijkbaar niet zo van het uitspreken over dingen doe er toe doen.
Zeg dan helemaal niets. Ik vind het een aanfluiting.
Een zogenaamde King die buigt voor communistenquote:
LeBron z’n comments over Morey vallen me wel een beetje tegen. Als het James in z’n portomonnee raakt is die blijkbaar niet zo van het uitspreken over dingen doe er toe doen.
De ironie
RED ONS HENNIEGOD
Geld gaat toch meestal boven principes in de sport he. Uitzondering op de regel is Sankt Pauli die net een Turkse speler hebben ontslagen omdat die op Instagram steun uitsprak voor de Turkse invasie, maar meestal zijn de miljoentjes belangrijker dan ethiek.
Demain, on roule
Vond z'n nieuwe bijnaam op Reddit wel toepasselijk, Qing Jamesquote:
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Een zogenaamde King die buigt voor communisten
De ironie
Ja klopt, dat was te genuanceerd. Vallen me erg tegen.quote:
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Een beetje?
Zeg dan helemaal niets. Ik vind het een aanfluiting.
Xbox Live Gamertag : ThaD16
LeFlop liet zich niet zien.quote:
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Een zogenaamde King die buigt voor communisten
De ironie
Net zoals zijn vader.
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LeFlop ziet zich niet zien.
Net zoals zijn vader.
RED ONS HENNIEGOD
In de NBA is Kanter dan weer een mooie uitzondering. Die komt ook op voor z'n mening en wordt hem niet echt in dank afgenomen.quote:
Geld gaat toch meestal boven principes in de sport he. Uitzondering op de regel is Sankt Pauli die net een Turkse speler hebben ontslagen omdat die op Instagram steun uitsprak voor de Turkse invasie, maar meestal zijn de miljoentjes belangrijker dan ethiek.
Die kerel heeft een directe lijn met de FBI vanwege zn veiligheid.
"Ik heb nog met hem gekoerst"
