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I didn't write that.quote:Op woensdag 24 oktober 2018 20:31 schreef ATuin-hek het volgende:
Op vrijdag 19 oktober 2018 12:57 schreef Tingo het volgende:
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D) The EMP theory itself is theoretically impossible.
Please don't misquote me.Maybe a mod should jump on that too.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Het staat letterlijk in de post die gequote wordtquote:
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I didn't write that.
Please don't misquote me.Maybe a mod should jump on that too.
Redenen over waarom iemandje zou zoiets willen maken (en als 't echt werkt) voor 'n ander 'discussie' is.quote:Op woensdag 24 oktober 2018 19:56 schreef theguyver het volgende:
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Psycho kid toys?
Waar valt dan een simpel broodmes dan onder?
Ik toon gewoon simpel aan dat je sommige dingen zelf kan maken.
Zoals een emp apparaatje..
En... Ik lees toch echt EMP in jou text!
Misschien kan je sidekick iets even voor je uitleggen.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
I didn't write it - it's a quote from someone else who should be credited with it.quote:
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Het staat letterlijk in de post die gequote wordt
It was purposely being used to derail the 'discussion'.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Waarom zou je het dan in je post gebruiken als je het niet als argument gebruikt? Dat is wel een beetje raar. Het is logisch dat mensen hier dan op reageren...quote:
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I didn't write it - it's a quote from someone else who should be credited with it.
It was purposely being used to derail the 'discussion'.
En je quote dat voor de lol of zo, zonder dat je er zelf achter staat? Talk about derailing a topicquote:
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I didn't write that.
Please don't misquote me.Maybe a mod should jump on that too.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
It's a deliberate misquote whichever way you want to dress it up.quote:
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Waarom zou je het dan in je post gebruiken als je het niet als argument gebruikt? Dat is wel een beetje raar. Het is logisch dat mensen hier dan op reageren...
When will you be leaving as mod?
Just wondering....long goodbyes are really tiresome right?
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Gewoon datgene niet posten waar je geen reactie op wil. Niet het gevolg maar de oorzaak aanpakkenquote:
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It's a deliberate misquote whichever you want to dress it up.
Maar goed, de boodschap is duidelijk
Still not found anything substantial to back up your claims then.quote:
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En je quote dat voor de lol of zo, zonder dat je er zelf achter staat? Talk about derailing a topic
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Yes, it was indeed a deliberate misquote wasn't it?quote:
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Gewoon datgene niet posten waar je geen reactie op wil. Niet het gevolg maar de oorzaak aanpakken
Maar goed, de boodschap is duidelijk
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Ik heb genoeg gevonden om jouw bullshit te ontkrachten. That will do for now.quote:
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Still not found anything substantial to back up your claims then.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Really? You should post it here then!quote:
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Ik heb genoeg gevonden om jouw bullshit te ontkrachten. That will do for now.
Stay on track.Please be specific.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
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Really? You should post it here then!
Stay on track.Please be specific.
Maar vertel Tingo, als jij iets een interessant stuk vind om te lezen en daaruit gaat quoten, waarom staat je mening dan blijkbaar 180 graden op wat je quote? Dat is nogal verstorend voor het verloop van een topic.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
I didn't say I disagreed with the quote.quote:
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Maar vertel Tingo, als jij iets een interessant stuk vind om te lezen en daaruit gaat quoten, waarom staat je mening dan blijkbaar 180 graden op wat je quote? Dat is nogal verstorend voor het verloop van een topic.
Please post something substantial to back up your claims about the Soviet (or any other) nuke-EMP tests/results. Please quote some points which you find important.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
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How many tourists ? Just wondering.
They wouldn't need to be part of any conspiracy/outrageous lie - the military could just detonate 100 tons of TNT and tell everyone that it is a nuclear explosion. The spectators would of course believe it all anyway because the military and media would never tell such enormous lies right? They wouldn't need to pay any 'tourists' if they believe it all anyway.
Then take the footage of the 100 tons of TNT explosion back to LookOut Mountain (just up the road from Hollywood) and have it enhanced, manipulated etc. to make it all look more impressive and/or different from a huge detonation of conventional explosives.
Just wanted to correct my above post.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Ok, dus je trekt EMP wel in twijfel. Waarom dan zo reageren op een voorbeeld van EMP?quote:
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I didn't say I disagreed with the quote.
Please post something substantial to back up your claims about the Soviet (or any other) nuke-EMP tests/results. Please quote some points which you find important.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Waar is de 'veel info' over nuclear EMP schade ?quote:
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Ten eerste is was dat niet het enige EMP effect, en al helemaal niet de enige test. Dat die streetlights het enige bewijs is, is simpelweg onzin. De Russen hebben rond die tijd ook een serie tests gedaan boven bewoond gebied, en daar veel info over EMP schade verzameld.
You're having trouble supporting your claims. The tiny scraps of info there is to be found is about as wishy-washy as your own vague statements and opinions.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Al die info heb je al. Jij beweerde dat die ene US test de enige was, wat dus simpelweg niet klopte.quote:
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Waar is de 'veel info' over nuclear EMP schade ?
You're having trouble supporting your claims. The tiny scraps of info there is to be found is about as wishy-washy as your own vague statements and opinions.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Not from you I haven’t.quote:
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Al die info heb je al. Jij beweerde dat die ene US test de enige was, wat dus simpelweg niet klopte.
All you have done is post unsubstantiated claims about ‘nuclear’EMP tests, misquoted me in a attempt to change the subject, dodged questions about information sources and tried to divert the ‘discussion’.
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In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Oké, kan iemand me wat anders helpen verklaren? Hoe laat je bijna een volledige stad in 10 seconden... En niet 1 maar 2x in een week tijd..
Er staat nog een vraag voor u open!!
99,9% van alles en iedereen, op die ene personen na zoals jij die het niet geloofd.quote:
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Waar is de 'veel info' over nuclear EMP schade ?
You're having trouble supporting your claims. The tiny scraps of info there is to be found is about as wishy-washy as your own vague statements and opinions.
Zelfde zo'n beetje als de platte aarde aanhangers, maar dat zijn tegenwoordig meer gelovige in dan deze theorie.
Er staat nog een vraag voor u open!!
Een EMP is een zeer krachtige electromagnetische golf.
Zodra deze golf iets van metaal raakt, krijg je een (sterkte afhankelijk van circuit) spoelwerking die zorgt voor een potentiaal verschil, er gaat dus een (onbedoelde) spanning lopen in het circuit.
Voor fijne techniek zoals transistors en computers is deze geringe stroom teveel, waardoor de flinterdunne gleiders doorbranden.
Radio werkt met hetzelfde principe. De natuurwetten die een EMP zeer zeker wel mogelijk maken zijn goed begrepen.
Zodra deze golf iets van metaal raakt, krijg je een (sterkte afhankelijk van circuit) spoelwerking die zorgt voor een potentiaal verschil, er gaat dus een (onbedoelde) spanning lopen in het circuit.
Voor fijne techniek zoals transistors en computers is deze geringe stroom teveel, waardoor de flinterdunne gleiders doorbranden.
Radio werkt met hetzelfde principe. De natuurwetten die een EMP zeer zeker wel mogelijk maken zijn goed begrepen.
in 10 seconden..wat Guyv?quote:
Oké, kan iemand me wat anders helpen verklaren? Hoe laat je bijna een volledige stad in 10 seconden... En niet 1 maar 2x in een week tijd..
Ja, snap.quote:
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Van stad naar zo goed als niks...
😂
Anybody who makes stupid, desperate attempts at comparing the nuclear bomb hoax research to the flat earth PsyOp has not read and/or understood the information properly.quote:
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99,9% van alles en iedereen, op die ene personen na zoals jij die het niet geloofd.
Zelfde zo'n beetje als de platte aarde aanhangers, maar dat zijn tegenwoordig meer gelovige in dan deze theorie.
Veel lees plezier.
Much of the footage in this propaganda film has been re-used and edited several times.
12:50-The actress playing the role of a reporter is funny.
Declassified U.S. Nuclear Test Film #33
Met veel dank aan Clues forum!
THE NUKE HOAX.
https://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=452
Yes, it's a long thread which requires time and energy to get through, and it also depends on how much you really want to know.The thread is a fantastic collection of film, photos, newspaper articles etc. It pretty much explains the whole 'nuke' mythology.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Lets face it, de kans dat je op het clues forum zinnige informatie tegen komt is wel erg klein.quote:
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Anybody who makes stupid, desperate attempts at comparing the nuclear bomb hoax research to the flat earth PsyOp has not read and/or understood the information properly.
Veel lees plezier.
Much of the footage in this propaganda film has been re-used and edited several times.
12:50-The actress playing the role of a reporter is funny.
Declassified U.S. Nuclear Test Film #33
Met veel dank aan Clues forum!
THE NUKE HOAX.
https://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=452
Yes, it's a long thread which requires time and energy to get through, and it also depends on how much you really want to know.The thread is a fantastic collection of film, photos, newspaper articles etc. It pretty much explains the whole 'nuke' mythology.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Straks even doornemen, staat er ook een goeie uitleg bij hoe je bijna een complete stad in luttele seconden van de aardbodem laat verdwijnen?quote:
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Anybody who makes stupid, desperate attempts at comparing the nuclear bomb hoax research to the flat earth PsyOp has not read and/or understood the information properly.
Veel lees plezier.
Much of the footage in this propaganda film has been re-used and edited several times.
12:50-The actress playing the role of a reporter is funny.
Declassified U.S. Nuclear Test Film #33
Met veel dank aan Clues forum!
THE NUKE HOAX.
https://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=452
Yes, it's a long thread which requires time and energy to get through, and it also depends on how much you really want to know.The thread is a fantastic collection of film, photos, newspaper articles etc. It pretty much explains the whole 'nuke' mythology.
Er staat nog een vraag voor u open!!
Of hoe je alle effecten van een megaton high altitude blast simuleert.quote:
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Straks even doornemen, staat er ook een goeie uitleg bij hoe je bijna een complete stad in luttele seconden van de aardbodem laat verdwijnen?
Als je er een beetje doorheen klikt komt het meeste neer op ik snap het niet, dus het kan niet waar zijn. Nou niet de meest robuste redenering om te gebruiken.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Deze foto is van een andere hoek genomen de wolk ziet er anders uit.. Dus daarom Denk ik dat het nep is.. Dat is geen uitleg! Dat is gewoon dom lullen..quote:
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Of hoe je alle effecten van een megaton high altitude blast simuleert.
Als je er een beetje doorheen klikt komt het meeste neer op ik snap het niet, dus het kan niet waar zijn. Nou niet de meest robuste redenering om te gebruiken.
Er staat nog een vraag voor u open!!
Like natural phenomena such as a lightning bolts/electrical storms.quote:
Een EMP is een zeer krachtige electromagnetische golf.
Zodra deze golf iets van metaal raakt, krijg je een (sterkte afhankelijk van circuit) spoelwerking die zorgt voor een potentiaal verschil, er gaat dus een (onbedoelde) spanning lopen in het circuit.
Voor fijne techniek zoals transistors en computers is deze geringe stroom teveel, waardoor de flinterdunne gleiders doorbranden.
Radio werkt met hetzelfde principe. De natuurwetten die een EMP zeer zeker wel mogelijk maken zijn goed begrepen.
Thank you, but that's not the main issue here. I asked about the effects of a nuclear bomb and got the reply 'vooral EMP'.
Do you have any practical evidence for the EMP 'nuclear' bomb theory?
The evidence of damage from 'nuclear' EMP seems to be a bit thin on the ground (zero) to say the very least.
The sparse reports describe effects that could also be created by the use of conventional explosives.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
It seems to me that the damage we see in the imagery of the aftermath of the Nagasaki and Hiroshima 'nuclear' bombings are the same as that of the many fire (napalm) bombings of Japanese and German cities. Napalm was a new weapon at the time.quote:
Oké, kan iemand me wat anders helpen verklaren? Hoe laat je bijna een volledige stad in 10 seconden... En niet 1 maar 2x in een week tijd..
The vast majority of the damage at Nagasaki and Hiroshima was to small houses made out of paper and wood. The much stronger buildings were damaged but remained standing.
All the 'shadows on the walls/pavements' imagery is fake. Some of the (miscaptioned) photos of the 'nuclear' devastation (the warped/bent train tracks for example) were actually doctored photos of damage caused by earthquakes.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Let 'us' face it? Who is 'us' ?quote:
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Lets face it, de kans dat je op het clues forum zinnige informatie tegen komt is wel erg klein.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Hoe dan?quote:
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Like natural phenomena such as a lightning bolts/electrical storms.
Thank you, but that's not the main issue here. I asked about the effects of a nuclear bomb and got the reply 'vooral EMP'.
Do you have any practical evidence for the EMP 'nuclear' bomb theory?
The evidence of damage from 'nuclear' EMP seems to be a bit thin on the ground (zero) to say the very least.
The sparse reports describe effects that could also be created by the use of conventional explosives.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Pak een papier en zet het in brand.quote:
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It seems to me that the damage we see in the imagery of the aftermath of the Nagasaki and Hiroshima 'nuclear' bombings are the same as that of the many fire (napalm) bombings of Japanese and German cities. Napalm was a new weapon at the time.
The vast majority of the damage at Nagasaki and Hiroshima was to small houses made out of paper and wood. The much stronger buildings were damaged but remained standing.
All the 'shadows on the walls/pavements' imagery is fake. Some of the (miscaptioned) photos of the 'nuclear' devastation (the warped/bent train tracks for example) were actually doctored photos of damage caused by earthquakes.
Dit duurt langer dan 10 sec dus hierbij kan je dit gelijk in je brandende prullenbak gooien.
Om maar te zwijgen over een mooie paddenstoelwolk en lichtflits wat tientallen zo niet honderden kilometers afstand zichtbaar was.
Er staat nog een vraag voor u open!!
+-47km want we hebben het hierbij niet over een platte aarde.
https://movies.stackexcha(...)s-in-the-film-empire
Bij een bombardement met brandbommen zijn meer dan 3 vliegtuigen nodig om deze in as te leggen, dit soort bombardementen werden gedaan door tientallen a honderden vliegtuigen. In dit geval werden er maar 3 gebruikt.
Dan even het volgende, er staan wat gebouwen overeind... Wat volgens jou heeeeeel vreemd is.. Maar geologisch gezien waar staat Japan bekend om??? Het ligt op een breuklijn en er komen erg veel aardbevingen voor, dus de gebouwen die er staan, zijn behoorlijk stabiel ontworpen, zelfs voor toen de tijd.
https://movies.stackexcha(...)s-in-the-film-empire
Bij een bombardement met brandbommen zijn meer dan 3 vliegtuigen nodig om deze in as te leggen, dit soort bombardementen werden gedaan door tientallen a honderden vliegtuigen. In dit geval werden er maar 3 gebruikt.
Dan even het volgende, er staan wat gebouwen overeind... Wat volgens jou heeeeeel vreemd is.. Maar geologisch gezien waar staat Japan bekend om??? Het ligt op een breuklijn en er komen erg veel aardbevingen voor, dus de gebouwen die er staan, zijn behoorlijk stabiel ontworpen, zelfs voor toen de tijd.
Er staat nog een vraag voor u open!!
Zeg Tingo, geloof je niet in atoomenergie of dat wel, maar niet dat er een bom van gemaakt kan worden?
In geval van het eerste, hoe verklaar je dan dat energie wordt opgewekt in een kerncentrale?
In geval van het eerste, hoe verklaar je dan dat energie wordt opgewekt in een kerncentrale?
That's a subject for a different topic I think.quote:Op zondag 28 oktober 2018 17:49 schreef BroesWillems het volgende:
Zeg Tingo, geloof je niet in atoomenergie of dat wel, maar niet dat er een bom van gemaakt kan worden?
In geval van het eerste, hoe verklaar je dan dat energie wordt opgewekt in een kerncentrale?
I'm more interested in 'nuclear' bombs at the moment and there's a lot to cover plus I don't want to get side-tracked.
And I have less time lately.
Interesting question all the same.
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In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Aangezien je 'nuclear' al tussen quotes zet, laat je denk ik je antwoord al een beetje doorschemeren. Of heb ik het mis?quote:
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That's a subject for a different topic I think.
I'm more interested in 'nuclear' bombs at the moment and there's a lot to cover plus I don't want to get side-tracked.
And I have less time lately.
Interesting question all the same.
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side tracked? Atoom energie? Dat is juist het ding wat ditalles in beweging zet.quote:
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That's a subject for a different topic I think.
I'm more interested in 'nuclear' bombs at the moment and there's a lot to cover plus I don't want to get side-tracked.
And I have less time lately.
Interesting question all the same.
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Er staat nog een vraag voor u open!!
Past hier perfect bij, gezien beide volgens hetzelfde concept werken.quote:
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That's a subject for a different topic I think.
I'm more interested in 'nuclear' bombs at the moment and there's a lot to cover plus I don't want to get side-tracked.
And I have less time lately.
Interesting question all the same.
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Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
I've no doubt that the technology exists to block/jam signals/frequencies for as long as whoever has control of it wants to, or feels the need to use it, but actually frying/burning out even very fine circuitry over large areas, and whether such an event would cause permanent damage to all electronic devices, I don't think so.
I think most of us already have efficient fuse boxes in our houses to prevent such damage from happening.
Certain organisations very likely have the capabilities to jam communication, shut off power lines, infrastructure etc. for a few days and then tell us all it was an EMP attack, so who knows, maybe we will experience a fake EMP attack in our lifetimes.
I think most of us already have efficient fuse boxes in our houses to prevent such damage from happening.
Certain organisations very likely have the capabilities to jam communication, shut off power lines, infrastructure etc. for a few days and then tell us all it was an EMP attack, so who knows, maybe we will experience a fake EMP attack in our lifetimes.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Whether 'atomic' energy exists or not, it will not make the idiotic, laughable, completely fckin ridiculous 'nuclear' propaganda films any more believable.quote:Op maandag 29 oktober 2018 14:00 schreef BroesWillems het volgende:
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Aangezien je 'nuclear' al tussen quotes zet, laat je denk ik je antwoord al een beetje doorschemeren. Of heb ik het mis?
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Voor Tingo, korte en makkelijke uitleg..
En ik snap wel dat sommige dingen moeilijk te vatten zijn als je iets niet kan zien, dan kan je het makkelijk afschrijven als onzin.
Maar goed, simpel gezegd kan je zelf dit soort dingen wel zien..
Pak een lucifer en wrijf die langs een doosje, door de wrijving van de lucifer, veranderen de moleculen van de lucifer kop en ontstaat er hitte, en dan krijg je een flam.. Of te wel energie.
De manier hoe je atomen bewerkt kan leiden tot energie, en bij uranium ligt het er maar net aan hoe je er mee om gaat en op die manier hoeveel energie er vrij komt.
Door dit simpel af te wenden als onzin..
Bestaat een simpele lucifer ook niet of brandstof of überhaupt energie..
Dan is eigenlijk alles maar een vorm van magie
Er staat nog een vraag voor u open!!
That there is one you believe, that can happen. If you believe all of them, it says something about you.quote:
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That's a subject for a different topic I think.
I'm more interested in 'nuclear' bombs at the moment and there's a lot to cover plus I don't want to get side-tracked.
And I have less time lately.
Interesting question all the same.
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It's like when you say it, I can be sure it's a conspiracy.
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Het antwoord op de belangrijkste vraag van alle vragen? 42!
Het kan eigenlijk nog simpeler zelfsquote:
Voor Tingo, korte en makkelijke uitleg..
En ik snap wel dat sommige dingen moeilijk te vatten zijn als je iets niet kan zien, dan kan je het makkelijk afschrijven als onzin.
Maar goed, simpel gezegd kan je zelf dit soort dingen wel zien..
Pak een lucifer en wrijf die langs een doosje, door de wrijving van de lucifer, veranderen de moleculen van de lucifer kop en ontstaat er hitte, en dan krijg je een flam.. Of te wel energie.
De manier hoe je atomen bewerkt kan leiden tot energie, en bij uranium ligt het er maar net aan hoe je er mee om gaat en op die manier hoeveel energie er vrij komt.
Door dit simpel af te wenden als onzin..
Bestaat een simpele lucifer ook niet of brandstof of überhaupt energie..
Dan is eigenlijk alles maar een vorm van magie
Als je een stuk radioactief materiaal hebt (zoals een stukje uranium), dan komt hier een kleine hoeveelheid warmte vanaf. Dat kan je meten. Dat op zichzelf is al kernenergie, ook al is het een fractie van een fractie van een procent van wat in een reactor of bom mogelijk is.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Jongens, niet te persoonlijk worden. Even een beetje opgeschoond.
A child is born with no state of mind.
I'm still busy with finding out more about the fake nuclear explsosions. I'll look it up for myself when I have the time.quote:
Voor Tingo, korte en makkelijke uitleg..
Pak een lucifer en
I also have to work.
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In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
The man who survived two atomic bombs....
Mr. Yamaguchi wasn't even recognised by the Japanese government as the only double survivor until 2009.
How he and his colleagues could have 'travelled (500km) to Nagasaki the next day' is anyones guess. How would they have even ever found each other in the first place, amid such mayhem?
Anyway, then he and his colleagues all managed to get to work in Nagasaki on monday morning!
The trains were still running! That's some heavy weekend, so kudos to the Japanese work ethic then, but good grief, some people just don't know when to call in sick do they?
Mr.Yamaguchi lived to the ripe old age of 93.
The Japanese government didn't recognise any atomic bomb survivors until 1957.quote:Tsutomu Yamaguchi (山口 彊 Yamaguchi Tsutomu) (March 16, 1916 – January 4, 2010) was a survivor of both the Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombings during World War II. Although at least 70 people are known to have been affected by both bombings, he is the only person to have been officially recognized by the government of Japan as surviving both explosions
Yamaguchi lived and worked in Nagasaki, but in the summer of 1945, he was in Hiroshima for a three-month-long business trip. On August 6, he was preparing to leave the city with two colleagues, Akira Iwanaga and Kuniyoshi Sato, and was on his way to the station when he realised he had forgotten his hanko (a stamp allowing him to travel), and returned to his workplace to get it. At 8:15 am, he was walking towards the docks when the American bomber Enola Gay dropped the Little Boy atomic bomb near the centre of the city, only 3km away. Yamaguchi recalls seeing the bomber and two small parachutes, before there was "a great flash in the sky, and I was blown over" The explosion ruptured his eardrums, blinded him temporarily, and left him with serious burns over the left side of the top half of his body. After recovering, he crawled to a shelter, and having rested, he set out to find his colleagues.They had also survived and together they spent the night in an air-raid shelter before returning to Nagasaki the following day. In Nagasaki, he received treatment for his wounds, and despite being heavily bandaged, he reported for work on August 9.
Nagasaki bombing
At 11 am on August 9, Yamaguchi was describing the blast in Hiroshima to his supervisor, when the American bomber Bockscar dropped the Fat Man atomic bomb over the city. His workplace again put him 3km from ground zero, but this time he was unhurt by the explosion. However, he was unable to replace his now ruined bandages, and he suffered from a high fever for over a week
Mr. Yamaguchi wasn't even recognised by the Japanese government as the only double survivor until 2009.
How he and his colleagues could have 'travelled (500km) to Nagasaki the next day' is anyones guess. How would they have even ever found each other in the first place, amid such mayhem?
Anyway, then he and his colleagues all managed to get to work in Nagasaki on monday morning!
The trains were still running! That's some heavy weekend, so kudos to the Japanese work ethic then, but good grief, some people just don't know when to call in sick do they?
Mr.Yamaguchi lived to the ripe old age of 93.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
foutje
Als je in discussie gaat met een trol, wint hij. Als je een trol beledigt, wint hij. Als je tekeer gaat tegen een trol, wint hij. Het enige waar trollen niet tegen kunnen, is te worden genegeerd.
Tis gewoon informatie.quote:
Ok, en behalve het ridiculiseren van een historisch figuur, wat is je punt?
Historical teller of tall tales imo.
There is every good reason to question such miraculous stories.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Tot nu toe ontbreekt elk spoor van argumentatie daarvoorquote:
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Tis gewoon informatie.
Historical teller of tall tales imo.
There is every good reason to question such miraculous stories.
Just a theory. An appropriate title if nothing else.quote:
Scott 'before-I-get-down-to-the-nitty-gritty-of-the-physics-and-history' Manley, should also be able to get Einsteins first name right for a start, especially as he is clearly reading from a script.
Unless of course Albert Einstein had an identical twin brother called Alfred. He even uses 'Alfred' (which is kind of cute) as if these trendy gamer-scientistic types were on first name terms. Peculiar collection of space toys in the background. Who the fuck is this shallow, adolescent crap supposed to appeal to I wonder.
I already knew that the word 'atomic' was first used by H.G. Wells in a science FICTION book.
Hier kan je leuke dingetjes van Scott kopen:
https://www.redbubble.com/shop/scott+manley
The presentation style reminds me of that stupid american space fan bitch (Amy Titttler?)
Dear me, you're going to have to do better than this, matey.
Maybe you should take a 'history' lesson from your sidekick.
Still not found any credible information about 'nuclear' EMP then?
No. If you had, then you would've already posted it.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Sodeju zeg, moet het weer zo triest? Heb je dan echt zo weinig dat je de messenger aanvalt om het voor jezelf te kunnen verantwoorden dat je de message kan negeren?quote:
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Just a theory. An appropriate title if nothing else.
Scott 'before-I-get-down-to-the-nitty-gritty-of-the-physics-and-history' Manley, should also be able to get Einsteins first name right for a start, especially as he is clearly reading from a script.
Unless of course Albert Einstein had an identical twin brother called Alfred. He even uses 'Alfred' (which is kind of cute) as if these trendy gamer-scientistic types were on first name terms. Peculiar collection of space toys in the background. Who the fuck is this shallow, adolescent crap supposed to appeal to I wonder.
I already knew that the word 'atomic' was first used by H.G. Wells in a science FICTION book.
Hier kan je leuke dingetjes van Scott kopen:
https://www.redbubble.com/shop/scott+manley
The presentation style reminds me of that stupid american space fan bitch (Amy Titttler?)
Dear me, you're going to have to do better than this, matey.
Maybe you should take a 'history' lesson from your sidekick.
Still not found any credible information about 'nuclear' EMP then?
No. If you had, then you would've already posted it.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Oh there's plenty more accounts of Mr.Yamaguchis amazing escapades.quote:
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Tot nu toe ontbreekt elk spoor van argumentatie daarvoor
It reminds me of some of the stories which were presented as evidence at the Nuremberg war trials.
https://www.independent.c(...)agasaki-1654294.html
Despite being 3km (just under two miles) from Ground Zero, the blast temporarily blinded him, destroyed his left eardrum and inflicted horrific burns over much of the top half of his body. The following morning, he braved another dose of radiation as he ventured into Hiroshima city centre, determined to catch a train home, away from the nightmare.
In a bitter twist of fate, Yamaguchi was again 3 kms from the centre of the second explosion. In fact, he was in the office explaining to his boss how he had almost been killed days before, when suddenly the same white light filled the room.
Like many of the roughly 260,000 survivors of the atomic explosions, Mr Yamaguchi suffered agony for much of his life, as his daughter explains. "Until I was about 12, he was wrapped in bandages for his skin wounds, and he went completely bald," says Toshiko, now 60. "My mother was also soaked in black rain [the famously radioactive rain that fell after both bombings] and was poisoned. We think she passed on that poison to us."
In his eighties, he finally wrote a book about his experiences, and was invited to take part in a documentary called Nijuuhibaku ( Twice Bombed, Twice Survived), about the handful of double A-bomb victims. The film shows him weeping bitterly as he describes watching bloated corpses floating in the city's rivers and encountering the walking dead of Hiroshima, whose melting flesh hung like "giant gloves".
Black rain:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fallout
This radioactive dust, usually consisting of fission products mixed with bystanding atoms that are neutron activated by exposure, is a highly dangerous kind of radioactive contamination.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
I certainly don't need your 'messengers'.quote:
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Sodeju zeg, moet het weer zo triest? Heb je dan echt zo weinig dat je de messenger aanvalt om het voor jezelf te kunnen verantwoorden dat je de message kan negeren?
You probably didn't even watch it yourself, but it doesn't matter, I'll be kind and not go on about it.
Please try better in future.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Je zou ook voor de verandering een inhoudelijke reactie erop kunnen geven.quote:
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I certainly don't need your 'messengers'.
You probably didn't even watch it yourself, but it doesn't matter, I'll be kind and not go on about it.
Please try better in future.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
The Soviet K project tests...
184 K3 (Joe 157) October 22nd, 1962:
“Exploded short of target above Sary Shagan, west of Dzhezkazgan (or Zhezqazghan). EMP ran to thousands of amps, damaged at least 570km of telephone lines, 1000km of buried power lines, and caused the destruction of the Karaganda power plant.”
Are there any credible photographs, film, witness testimonies, etc. of such destruction from 'nuclear' EMP to find? The reported damage could easily have been caused by conventional explosives. Sary Shagan was a closed city in the middle of nowhere. The military could do and report what they wanted, as they had control of the whole area for hundreds of miles around.
Where is the definitive evidence, information etc. about 'nuclear EMP?
Or are we just supposed to rely on the vague report of 'informal communications' between Soviet and American scientists?
How can we know for sure that any 'informal communications between Russian and American scientists' ever occured at all?
It amounts to nothing more than hearsay.
184 K3 (Joe 157) October 22nd, 1962:
“Exploded short of target above Sary Shagan, west of Dzhezkazgan (or Zhezqazghan). EMP ran to thousands of amps, damaged at least 570km of telephone lines, 1000km of buried power lines, and caused the destruction of the Karaganda power plant.”
Are there any credible photographs, film, witness testimonies, etc. of such destruction from 'nuclear' EMP to find? The reported damage could easily have been caused by conventional explosives. Sary Shagan was a closed city in the middle of nowhere. The military could do and report what they wanted, as they had control of the whole area for hundreds of miles around.
Where is the definitive evidence, information etc. about 'nuclear EMP?
Or are we just supposed to rely on the vague report of 'informal communications' between Soviet and American scientists?
How can we know for sure that any 'informal communications between Russian and American scientists' ever occured at all?
It amounts to nothing more than hearsay.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Here is another differing account of Mr.Yamaguchis miraculous survival:
https://www.ripleys.com/w(...)l-tsutomu-yamaguchi/
Mr. Yamaguchi wasn't even recognised by the Japanese government as the only double survivor until 2009.
Why did it take the Japanese government 12 years to recognise atomic bomb survivors?
If there indeed were 165 people who 'experienced both atomic weapons firsthand', why was Mr.Yamaguchi the only person ever to be recognised (in 2009!) as a double survivor and why did it take so long?
https://www.ripleys.com/w(...)l-tsutomu-yamaguchi/
The Japanese government didn't recognise any atomic bomb survivors until 1957.quote:“The blast sent him spinning through the air, and he landed in a nearby potato patch. When he opened his eyes, he couldn’t see anything—the world was completely black.
The blast hadn’t blinded him, but instead blotted out the sun with an enormous cloud of dust. Yamaguchi’s arms and face were badly burned and his eardrums were ruptured. As the debris cleared, he saw a towering mushroom cloud over the city.”
“Still injured, he made his way through a city of crumbling buildings, fires, and bodies melted to the streets. At one point, he had to swim across a river filled with burned corpses. Yamaguchi eventually made it to the train and settled in for the night as it took him to his hometown of Nagasaki.”
“When Yamaguchi arrived home, his wife and daughter didn’t even recognize the burned man standing in front of them. His wife knew her husband had been in Hiroshima, and thought his bandaged figure might even be a ghost. After finally receiving medical attention, he collapsed in bed for the night.”
“It was during this meeting that the sky once again lit up with fire. The building was destroyed and his bandages were blown away, but—once again—he survived.”
“Though Yamaguchi is the only officially recognized double-survivor of atomic bombings, as many as 165 people experienced both atomic weapons firsthand.”
Mr. Yamaguchi wasn't even recognised by the Japanese government as the only double survivor until 2009.
Why did it take the Japanese government 12 years to recognise atomic bomb survivors?
If there indeed were 165 people who 'experienced both atomic weapons firsthand', why was Mr.Yamaguchi the only person ever to be recognised (in 2009!) as a double survivor and why did it take so long?
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Hoe wil jij honderden kilometers power en telephone line opblazen met een conventionele explosie op zo'n afstand?quote:
The Soviet K project tests...
184 K3 (Joe 157) October 22nd, 1962:
“Exploded short of target above Sary Shagan, west of Dzhezkazgan (or Zhezqazghan). EMP ran to thousands of amps, damaged at least 570km of telephone lines, 1000km of buried power lines, and caused the destruction of the Karaganda power plant.”
Are there any credible photographs, film, witness testimonies, etc. of such destruction from 'nuclear' EMP to find? The reported damage could easily have been caused by conventional explosives. Sary Shagan was a closed city in the middle of nowhere. The military could do and report what they wanted, as they had control of the whole area for hundreds of miles around.
Where is the definitive evidence, information etc. about 'nuclear EMP?
Or are we just supposed to rely on the vague report of 'informal communications' between Soviet and American scientists?
How can we know for sure that any 'informal communications between Russian and American scientists' ever occured at all?
It amounts to nothing more than hearsay.
Dat is nogal een claim om te maken.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Despite there being a lack of detailed information and/or evidence such as photos, film,witness testimony etc. you are assuming that what we are told is true.quote:
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Hoe wil jij honderden kilometers power en telephone line opblazen met een conventionele explosie op zo'n afstand?
Even if there were reports of thousands of homes being left without power (which there doesn't seem to be) it still wouldn't be proof of nuclear EMP.
Like I said – the whole area would have been in control of the military, so they could cause a power outage and then tell people it was due to nuclear tests.
According to wiki:
“After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the level of this (emp)damage was communicated informally to scientists in the United States.”
Pity there are no transcriptions of these informal communications or information as to who these scientists were.
It's all a bit vague and amounts to nothing more than hearsay really.
You claimed that there was 'veel info' about the Soviet Project K nuclear tests to find, but that seems not to be the case.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
No, you claimed that all those damages can be replicated using a conventional explosion. That's a pretty crazy claim to make.quote:
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Despite there being a lack of detailed information and/or evidence such as photos, film,witness testimony etc. you are assuming that what we are told is true.
Even if there were reports of thousands of homes being left without power (which there doesn't seem to be) it still wouldn't be proof of nuclear EMP.
Like I said – the whole area would have been in control of the military, so they could cause a power outage and then tell people it was due to nuclear tests.
According to wiki:
“After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the level of this (emp)damage was communicated informally to scientists in the United States.”
Pity there are no transcriptions of these informal communications or information as to who these scientists were.
It's all a bit vague and amounts to nothing more than hearsay really.
You claimed that there was 'veel info' about the Soviet Project K nuclear tests to find, but that seems not to be the case.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
You are taking what we have been told as true.Your opinion is based on nothing more than hearsay.quote:
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No, you claimed that all those damages can be replicated using a conventional explosion. That's a pretty crazy claim to make.
There is no evidence of the damage.
(570km of telephone lines, 1000km of buried power lines, and caused the destruction of the Karaganda power plant)
Like I said - a power and telephone communications outage could easily have been caused by something other than EMP. Of course they could easily be severed by conventional explosives And people wouldn't even know anything other that what they got told.
There's nothing 'crazy' about that.
You claimed that there was 'veel info' to find about the Soviet nuclear EMP tests, yet you still haven't presented any.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Hoe dan?quote:
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Like I said - a power and telephone communications outage could easily have been caused by something other than EMP. Of course they could easily be severed by conventional explosives
No I didn't, dat maak jij er van.quote:You claimed that there was 'veel info' to find about the Soviet nuclear EMP tests, yet you still haven't presented any.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Where is the 'veel info' that the Russians collected?quote:
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Ten eerste is was dat niet het enige EMP effect, en al helemaal niet de enige test. Dat die streetlights het enige bewijs is, is simpelweg onzin. De Russen hebben rond die tijd ook een serie tests gedaan boven bewoond gebied, en daar veel info over EMP schade verzameld.
If you can't provide any evidence of it - how would anyone know that it even ever existed?
You're most probably taking someones word for it again.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Een (groot) deel daarvan ligt waarschijnlijk te verstoffen in een archief ergens ja, of is in zijn geheel verloren gegaan.quote:
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Where is the 'veel info' that the Russians collected?
If you can't provide any evidence of it - how would anyone know that it even ever existed?
You're most probably taking someones word for it again.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Dus voor nu heb je het vooral van horen zeggen, precies zoals Tingo je al een tijdje probeert duidelijk te maken.quote:
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Een (groot) deel daarvan ligt waarschijnlijk te verstoffen in een archief ergens ja, of is in zijn geheel verloren gegaan.
Instead of questioning authority, they question those that question authority.
Dat was het punt ook niet. Het punt was dat volgens Tingo die ene test van de VS de enige test was.quote:
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Dus voor nu heb je het vooral van horen zeggen, precies zoals Tingo je al een tijdje probeert duidelijk te maken.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Verplaats je nu de doelpalen?quote:
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Dat was het punt ook niet. Het punt was dat volgens Tingo die ene test van de VS de enige test was.
Instead of questioning authority, they question those that question authority.
De VS en Rusland zijn niet de enige met deze wapens.quote:
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Verplaats je nu de doelpalen?
De laatste die zich bij het genootschap van landen met atoom wapens kan voegen is Noord Korea, ondanks dat er geen beelden van zijn. Kunnen omringende landen dit bevestigen door de aardbeving die werd veroorzaakt en in China kon men straling meten aangezien de tests vlak bij hun grens werd uitgevoerd.
Er staat nog een vraag voor u open!!
You have not presented any evidence whatsoever of any nuclear EMP tests ever having taken place at all. Your claims are based on nothing more than hearsay. That is the 'point'.quote:
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Dat was het punt ook niet. Het punt was dat volgens Tingo die ene test van de VS de enige test was.
You also claim to have some knowledge and understanding of science. Hearsay is not scientific.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
En waar zijn jouw "beweringen" dan op gebouwd?quote:
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You have not presented any evidence whatsoever of any nuclear EMP tests ever having taken place at all. Your claims are based on nothing more than hearsay. That is the 'point'.
You also claim to have some knowledge and understanding of science. Hearsay is not scientific.
Als jij die bizarre verhaaltjes over de historische figuur Mr.Yamaguchi leest, wat denk jij dan? In mijn oren klinken ze namelijk nogal mythisch en over de top.quote:
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En waar zijn jouw "beweringen" dan op gebouwd?
Instead of questioning authority, they question those that question authority.
Het gebruik van atoombomen was dan ook nogal over the topquote:
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Als jij die bizarre verhaaltjes over de historische figuur Mr.Yamaguchi leest, wat denk jij dan? In mijn oren klinken ze namelijk nogal mythisch en over de top.
Dat levert dus wel extreme gebeurtenissen op lijkt me
Ja leuke "what about" strategie. Het laat nog steeds mooi zien dat de bron waar jij mee kwam full of shit was.quote:
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You have not presented any evidence whatsoever of any nuclear EMP tests ever having taken place at all. Your claims are based on nothing more than hearsay. That is the 'point'.
You also claim to have some knowledge and understanding of science. Hearsay is not scientific.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
"I dont understand it, therefore it must be fake", aldus Ronald Reagan, maker van de atoombom.
Het antwoord op de belangrijkste vraag van alle vragen? 42!
I don't understand what you mean with the term 'what about strategie'. Please explain, I'm genuinely interested.quote:
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Ja leuke "what about" strategie. Het laat nog steeds mooi zien dat de bron waar jij mee kwam full of shit was.
If you think that the link (about 'nuclear' EMP) I posted is 'full of shit', you should be able to be more specific, make a list of points, and explain why you disagree with them.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Dat weet je best. Ik wil me best nog een keer herhalen hoor, als je dat blijkbaar nodig hebt. Dat artikel maakt al vrij snel de claim dat alles over EMP schade op die ene US test gebaseerd is. Dat is dus onzin, en geeft wel aan hoe slecht ze hun research gedaan hebben.quote:
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I don't understand what you mean with the term 'what about strategie'. Please explain, I'm genuinely interested.
If you think that the link (about 'nuclear' EMP) I posted is 'full of shit', you should be able to be more specific, make a list of points, and explain why you disagree with them.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Wat precies weet ik best?quote:
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Maar je heb nog steeds helemaal geen bewijs dat er tests waren.quote:
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Dat weet je best. Ik wil me best nog een keer herhalen hoor, als je dat blijkbaar nodig hebt. Dat artikel maakt al vrij snel de claim dat alles over EMP schade op die ene US test gebaseerd is. Dat is dus onzin, en geeft wel aan hoe slecht ze hun research gedaan hebben.
Je blijft maar claimen.
You should know very, very well by now that I do not take your word for anything.
Lees dan de link opnieuw en doe maar 'n lijstje en uitleggen precies waarom jij denkt dat de link 'full of shit' is.
It shouldn't take too much effort - seeing as you seem so cocky.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Ok, wat zou jij dan als bewijs accepteren?quote:
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Maar je heb nog steeds helemaal geen bewijs dat er tests waren.
Je blijft maar claimen.
You should know very, very well by now that I do not take your word for anything.
Lees dan de link opnieuw en doe maar 'n lijstje en uitleggen precies waarom jij denkt dat de link 'full of shit' is.
It shouldn't take too much effort - seeing as you seem so cocky.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
I can't decide what I will accept as 'bewijs' until I see the 'bewijs'.quote:
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Ok, wat zou jij dan als bewijs accepteren?
Anything that you think is adequate will do, because up til now I have seen NOTHING apart from wishy-washy claiims.
You have presented ZERO evidence of nuclear EMP.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Nee zo werkt dat niet.quote:
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I can't decide what I will accept as 'bewijs' until I see the 'bewijs'.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Zo werkt wat niet precies?quote:
You seem to write in riddles half of the time.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Wat jij als bewijs zou accepteren.quote:
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Zo werkt wat niet precies?
You seem to write in riddles half of the time.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
I can't accept 'bewijs' that does not exist.quote:
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Wat jij als bewijs zou accepteren.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Dus, behalve van je wazige 'vooral EMP effect'...(which you have not presented any info to support) wat zou de andere effecten van 'n 'nuclear' bom zijn ?quote:
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Eigenlijk alle effecten wel, maar vooral de EMP.
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In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Spoken like a True Believer. Het beantwoord nog steeds de vraag niet wat je dan wel zou overtuigen. Niets blijkbaar?quote:
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I can't accept 'bewijs' that does not exist.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Ik denk dat jij in dit geval juist de True Believer bent en dat Tingo in deze de Non-Believer is. Kleinigheidje, maar je moet wel scherp blijven.quote:
Instead of questioning authority, they question those that question authority.
Our friend Hek has a tendency to use English terms and phrases out of context.quote:
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Ik denk dat jij in dit geval juist de True Believer bent en dat Tingo in deze de Non-Believer is. Kleinigheidje, maar je moet wel scherp blijven.
Now he wants a discsussion about 'nuclear' EMP tests which seem not to have taken place. .
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Deze discussie is sowieso zinloos als je 'nuclear' steeds tussen quotes zet. Als je al niet in kernenergie gelooft is het al helemaal zinloos om over de gevolgen van een kernbom te praten.quote:
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Our friend Hek has a tendency to use English terms and phrases out of context.
Now he wants a discsussion about 'nuclear' EMP tests which seem not to have taken place. .
Oh nee in deze context klopte deze precies. Als je bewijs negeert, en daar van maakt bewijs bestaat niet ben je net zo slecht bezig als een religieus fundamentalist. Je laat je dan niet overtuigen, no matter what.quote:
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Our friend Hek has a tendency to use English terms and phrases out of context.
Now he wants a discsussion about 'nuclear' EMP tests which seem not to have taken place. .
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Ho fckin ho. LOL. No matter whatquote:
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Oh nee in deze context klopte deze precies. Als je bewijs negeert, en daar van maakt bewijs bestaat niet ben je net zo slecht bezig als een religieus fundamentalist. Je laat je dan niet overtuigen, no matter what.
There is no effing evidence of 'nuclear' EMP tests to find. After thousands of alleged 'nuclear' bomb tests, I'd expect there to be some reports, data/stats, photos, articles, film etc. supporting the 'vooral EMP' effect you still seem to be so sure about.
Just to re-cap...
When I asked you about the effects of a 'nuclear' bomb you replied:
'Vooral EMP'
You then claimed that there was much more info apart from the Starfish Prime 'nuclear' test to find - without providing any evidence/information to back up your claim.
You then wrote that the Soviets had 'veel info' about the Project K 'nuclear' tests,which you failed to provide a shred of the 'veel info'.
Now you claim that the much mentioned 'veel info' from the Russian 'nuclear' EMP tests exists, but is locked away somewhere but could also have been destroyed – also without any form of further information about the elusive EMP tests info whatsoever. Even if the 'veel info' existed, why the Soviets would've gathered data/results and then let it rot away in Siberia or destroy it all is anyones guess.
You referred to the 'EMP Hoax' article link I posted as 'full of shit'. If the article (book synopsis) is so 'full of shit' you should be able to list a few points at least, but you haven't and very probably can't.
Is there any information to find at all about 'nuclear' EMP from any of the other 'nuclear' nations?
I'm sure that if you (or others here) had found any definitive evidence of 'nuclear' EMP damage, you would have quite gleefully posted it by now.
You have not provided any evidence at all for 'nuclear' EMP .
You are basing your opinion purely on hearsay and what most of us are still misled to believe.
Please stop talking through your hat.
Anyway, moving on – apart from the 'vooral 'nuclear' EMP,' what are the other effects of a 'nuclear' bomb?
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Damn zeg, wat een fantasie weer. Ik stel voor dat je de volgende keer een betere poging doet om goed te lezen.quote:
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Ho fckin ho. LOL. No matter what
There is no effing evidence of 'nuclear' EMP tests to find. After thousands of alleged 'nuclear' bomb tests, I'd expect there to be some reports, data/stats, photos, articles, film etc. supporting the 'vooral EMP' effect you still seem to be so sure about.
Just to re-cap...
When I asked you about the effects of a 'nuclear' bomb you replied:
'Vooral EMP'
You then claimed that there was much more info apart from the Starfish Prime 'nuclear' test to find - without providing any evidence/information to back up your claim.
You then wrote that the Soviets had 'veel info' about the Project K 'nuclear' tests,which you failed to provide a shred of the 'veel info'.
Now you claim that the much mentioned 'veel info' from the Russian 'nuclear' EMP tests exists, but is locked away somewhere but could also have been destroyed – also without any form of further information about the elusive EMP tests info whatsoever. Even if the 'veel info' existed, why the Soviets would've gathered data/results and then let it rot away in Siberia or destroy it all is anyones guess.
You referred to the 'EMP Hoax' article link I posted as 'full of shit'. If the article (book synopsis) is so 'full of shit' you should be able to list a few points at least, but you haven't and very probably can't.
Is there any information to find at all about 'nuclear' EMP from any of the other 'nuclear' nations?
I'm sure that if you (or others here) had found any definitive evidence of 'nuclear' EMP damage, you would have quite gleefully posted it by now.
You have not provided any evidence at all for 'nuclear' EMP .
You are basing your opinion purely on hearsay and what most of us are still misled to believe.
Please stop talking through your hat.
Anyway, moving on – apart from the 'vooral 'nuclear' EMP,' what are the other effects of a 'nuclear' bomb?
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
It is fact, not fantasy, that you have failed to post anything at all to back up any of the claims you have made.quote:
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Damn zeg, wat een fantasie weer. Ik stel voor dat je de volgende keer een betere poging doet om goed te lezen.
And then making snidy remarks about my reading abilities is just pure desperation.
Please try and post something interesting, informative or useful to support your 'vooral EMP' claim (and the rest) and then I might respond...until then, adios. I'm not into handbag fights.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Riiiight, want daar ben je echt zo geïnteresseerd in.... Daarom vond je het nodig om de boodschapper af te kraken, in plaats van inhoudelijk op de boodschap te reageren toen ik die eerste video uit de nukes voor dummies reeks postte.quote:
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It is fact, not fantasy, that you have failed to post anything at all to back up any of the claims you have made.
And then making snidy remarks about my reading abilities is just pure desperation.
Please try and post something interesting, informative or useful to support your 'vooral EMP' claim (and the rest) and then I might respond...until then, adios. I'm not into handbag fights.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Onikaan ni ov dovah
Eigenlijk als je het verder gaat ontleden, kom je op energie terrecht. Dus welke vorm van energie creatie kan wel en welke kan niet.quote:
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Deze discussie is sowieso zinloos als je 'nuclear' steeds tussen quotes zet. Als je al niet in kernenergie gelooft is het al helemaal zinloos om over de gevolgen van een kernbom te praten.
Er staat nog een vraag voor u open!!
