Britse politiek #25 There May be a vote

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Lord Adonis quits as infrastructure tsar as he launches scathing attack on Theresa May's handling of Brexit

Theresa May's infrastructure tsar has sensationally quit as he launched a scathing attack on the Prime Minister's handling of Brexit. Labour peer Lord Adonis resigned as chairman of the National Infrastructure Commission, claiming Mrs May had sided with Ukip and the "Tory hard right". The former transport secretary said he was "duty bound" to oppose the Government's European Union (Withdrawal) Bill when it comes to the House of Lords.

In his resignation letter he told the Prime Minister: "Brexit is a populist and nationalist spasm worthy of Donald Trump. "After the narrow referendum vote, a form of associate membership of the EU might have been attempted without rupturing Britain's key trading and political alliances. "Instead, by allying with Ukip and the Tory hard right to wrench Britain out of the key economic and political institutions of modern Europe, you are pursuing a course fraught with danger. Even within Ireland, there are set to be barriers between people and trade. "If Brexit happens, taking us back into Europe will become the mission of our children's generation, who will marvel at your acts of destruction."

He warned the Government is "hurtling towards the EU's emergency exit with no credible plan for the future of British trade and European co-operation, all the while ignoring - beyond soundbites and inadequate programmes - the crises of housing, education, the NHS, and social and regional inequality which are undermining the fabric of our nation and feeding a populist surge".

Whitehall sources indicated that Lord Adonis, whose frequent criticism of Brexit had caused outrage among Tory Eurosceptics, had "jumped before he was pushed". Lord Adonis, a former Cabinet minister under Gordon Brown, was appointed as chairman of the National Infrastructure Commission in October 2015.

In his letter to the Prime Minister, Lord Adonis said: "My work at the Commission has become increasingly clouded by disagreement with the Government, and after much consideration I am writing to resign because of fundamental differences which simply cannot be bridged." The Government's Brexit Bill "is the worst legislation of my lifetime", he said. "It arrives soon in the House of Lords and I feel duty bound to oppose it relentlessly from the Labour benches." He claimed that Brexit is "causing a nervous breakdown across Whitehall and conduct unworthy of Her Majesty's Government".

But a Government source said: "He's been moving closer towards the exit door with each new onslaught he makes against Brexit. "He's now walked through the door before he was pushed."

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Op zaterdag 30 december 2017 09:06 schreef 99.999 het volgende:

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Zit vrij veel dynamiek in die branche momenteel

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Britain might NOT leave the EU, David Davis 'privately admits': Brexit Secretary 'secretly says decision could be reversed' - undermining PM's New Year message promising to 'get on and deliver'

Theresa May faced a new Brexit rift with David Davis last night after claims that he has raised private doubts that the UK is certain to leave the EU.

The Prime Minister used her official New Year message to restate her determination to deliver on the result of the 2016 referendum vote. She vowed to 'keep up progress in 2018' on the next stage of the EU exit talks, declaring: 'Making a success of Brexit is crucial.' The vast majority of voters 'just want the Government to get on and deliver a good Brexit – and that's exactly what we are doing', she added.

But her defiant message was undermined by reports that Mr Davis told a private meeting it was still possible the decision to leave the EU could be reversed. It follows a seminar hosted by Mr Davis at his Whitehall department shortly before Christmas, when he invited members of leading think-tanks to discuss the Government's success in getting an agreement with Brussels on moving to the next phase of Brexit talks. Sources say Mr Davis told the policy wonks: 'My view is that it means there is less chance of no deal – and less chance of no Brexit.'

Some of those present expressed surprise at Mr Davis's remarks. 'For the Brexit Secretary to express the thought that the whole thing might never happen was not what I expected – even behind closed doors,' one source said. 'Nor was I the only person who reacted like that. It didn't square with the Prime Minister's mantra of 'Brexit means Brexit'.'

Mr Davis claimed his remarks had been misinterpreted. A spokesman said: 'He was simply repeating the PM's point that the deal is good for people who supported Leave and who fear Brexit isn't going to happen, and Remain supporters who fear no deal.'

The row comes after a series of damaging reports in recent weeks about Mr Davis's handling of the Brexit negotiations, including claims that he has been sidelined by No 10. He was accused of going back on a pledge to publish dozens of detailed reports showing how Brexit would affect the economy; said 'you don't have to be clever' to handle Brexit talks; and suggested leaving the EU could have as much impact on the UK as the 2008 credit crash.

In her New Year message, Mrs May made no reference to a series of setbacks in 2017 which threatened her hold on power, including the botched Election and losing three Cabinet Ministers in a spate of scandals. But she dismissed claims that she was losing her grip. 'The real test is not whether challenges come; it's how you face them, whether you allow a task to overcome you, or tackle it head-on with purpose and resolve,' she said.

In his New Year message, Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said he was on the brink of ousting Mrs May from No 10. 'We are a government in waiting,' he said. 'The hope of a new Britain is closer than ever.' Mr Corbyn added: 'Now the Establishment's secret is out: they're not as strong as they appear. Let's face it, they have no idea how to fix their broken system or upgrade our stagnant economy. 'In 2018, Labour's mission is to give our people support and security and use their talents, unleash their creativity and fulfil their hopes.'

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Op zondag 31 december 2017 12:29 schreef beantherio het volgende:
Gaat Brexit nog wel echt door? Bepaalde uitspraken van Davis zelf roepen daar nu ook twijfels over uit:

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Op zondag 31 december 2017 12:29 schreef beantherio het volgende:
Gaat Brexit nog wel echt door? Bepaalde uitspraken van Davis zelf roepen daar nu ook twijfels over uit:

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Je kunt in ieder geval stellen dat Davis enorm onhandig bezig is in dit proces. Hoe kunnen ze die gozer verantwoordelijk maken voor zoiets belangrijks?

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I voted leave,for the future generations of people such as my 2 year old grandchild who cant vote himself so I voted leave. there have been 10 MILLION immigrants since 97 to compete with OUR childrens jobs keeping OUR childrens wages AND conditions down and pushing up house prices so OUR children will never own their own home. and of course there is the democracy issue. we were not making the choice between leaving and keeping the status quo, there is no status quo, staying in means moving in an ever closer integration with the e.u politically until we are FULLY governed by the e.u. i want my children to be able to vote out our rulers in the future if they're doing a bad job and i see the e.u progressing until it is like china or the former soviet U.S,S,R and then we WONT be able to vote our leaders out. Sod the deals, sod the single market, just get us out

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It doesn't matter that Davis thinks there's no chance of a deal. We don't need a deal. The referendum bypassed the usual party political dictatorship and produced an actual democratic result,so stuff the politicians. Let's leave, let's correct house prices and let's send the trespassing immmigrants home.

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Op zondag 31 december 2017 12:37 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Leuk dat hij dat roept. Maar Brexit is in gang gezet. Ze vertrekken maar lekker en als het zonder EU niet bevalt doen ze maar weer een aanvraag om lid te worden.

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Op zondag 31 december 2017 12:46 schreef Puddington het volgende:
Daily Mail comments zijn dan ook niet het verlichtende voorbeeld van intelligentie.

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Op zondag 31 december 2017 12:46 schreef Wombcat het volgende:

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Als ze toch willen blijven, moeten alle EU-landen daar ook mee instemmen, lijkt me. Kunnen we lekker de britten trollen

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Op zondag 31 december 2017 12:47 schreef Falco het volgende:

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Van mij mogen ze wel weer toetreden, maar wat mij betreft gaan ze gewoon normaal lidmaatschapskosten betalen (dus geen rebate) en pond inwisselen voor de euro bitte.

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Op zondag 31 december 2017 12:40 schreef Falco het volgende:
Comments bij het nieuwsbericht van The Daily Mail:

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Op zondag 31 december 2017 12:51 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Een goede reden om Brexit door te laten gaan. Het gekanker op Brussel en het dwarsliggen door de Britten heeft al lang genoeg geduurd.

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Op zondag 31 december 2017 12:56 schreef Wombcat het volgende:

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Lijkt me dat als ze willen blijven, dat ze weer een referendum moeten houden. Anders maak je je politiek wel heel erg ongeloofwaardig.

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Op zondag 31 december 2017 12:48 schreef Wombcat het volgende:

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Als ze weer toetreden, dan dat eerste sowieso. Dat tweede vind ik nog niet echt noodzakelijk.

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Op zondag 31 december 2017 13:10 schreef remlof het volgende:

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De euro invoeren als munteenheid is regenwoordig een vereiste voor landen die toetreden tot de EU. Als het VK terug wil keren betekent dat automatisch het einde van het Britse pond.

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Op zondag 31 december 2017 12:51 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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Een goede reden om Brexit door te laten gaan. Het gekanker op Brussel en het dwarsliggen door de Britten heeft al lang genoeg geduurd.

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Op zondag 31 december 2017 13:14 schreef Kaas- het volgende:

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Laten we hopen van niet, want ik zou wellicht niet meer bijkomen van het lachen.

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UK business group tells Theresa May the patience of British companies is 'wearing thin' over Brexit

One of the UK’s most influential business groups has warned Theresa May that the patience of British companies is “wearing thin” over Brexit.

The British Chamber of Commerce said its 75,000 members were “dismayed” with the Government’s approach and the apparent “division and disorganisation” within politics.

Director General Adam Marshall said firms need clarity and demanded Westminster get to grips with the challenge of EU withdrawal.

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Op zondag 31 december 2017 12:29 schreef beantherio het volgende:
Gaat Brexit nog wel echt door? Bepaalde uitspraken van Davis zelf roepen daar nu ook twijfels over uit:

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Je kunt in ieder geval stellen dat Davis enorm onhandig bezig is in dit proces. Hoe kunnen ze die gozer verantwoordelijk maken voor zoiets belangrijks?

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Op zondag 31 december 2017 14:37 schreef Tijger_m het volgende:
Leuker kunnen ze het niet maken:

Ministers consider using volunteers to guard UK borders

Home Office says it is discussing plan to bolster Border Force with scheme similar to police use of special constables

https://www.theguardian.c(...)-to-guard-uk-borders

Dont panic, dont panic!

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Op zondag 31 december 2017 16:00 schreef Papierversnipperaar het volgende:

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Standaard neo-liberale tactiek. Je bezuinigd een dienst weg en als er gezeik van komt schakel je vrijwilligers of uitkeringstrekkers in. Heeft niets met Brexit te maken.

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Op zondag 31 december 2017 14:37 schreef Tijger_m het volgende:
Leuker kunnen ze het niet maken:

Ministers consider using volunteers to guard UK borders

Home Office says it is discussing plan to bolster Border Force with scheme similar to police use of special constables

https://www.theguardian.c(...)-to-guard-uk-borders

Dont panic, dont panic!

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„De EU verliest invloed in de wereld als het Verenigd Koninkrijk vertrekt”, zegt de Britse oud-premier. „De Europese interne markt ziet een van de grootste economieën vertrekken. Een significante diplomatieke macht valt weg uit de Europese politieke structuur. Samenwerking op het gebied van defensie en veiligheid wordt moeilijker.”

Blair hoopt dat de overige 27 EU-leiders zich dus niet bij voorbaat neerleggen bij het uittreden. „Het echte gevaar is fatalisme. Dat is precies wat de Brexiteers willen: uittreden als onvermijdelijk zien”, zegt de 64-jarige oud-Labourleider tegen enkele buitenlandse journalisten.

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Op donderdag 4 januari 2018 13:35 schreef zakjapannertje het volgende:

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https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws(...)-tony-blair-a1586984

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Op donderdag 4 januari 2018 14:41 schreef Perrin het volgende:
Het betreffende epistel: Tony Blair: Brexit - What We Now Know

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Op donderdag 4 januari 2018 18:39 schreef westwoodblvd het volgende:
"When we voted in 2016, we knew we were voting against our present membership of the European Union, but not what the future relationship with Europe would be.

It was like having a General Election in which the question is ‘Do You Like the Government’? If that were the question, few incumbent Governments would be re-elected.

Once we know the alternative, we should be entitled to think again, either through Parliament or an election or through a fresh referendum, which will, of course, not be a re-run of the first because it will involve this time a choice based on knowledge of the alternative to existing EU membership."

Hier heeft hij toch wel een punt.

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Op donderdag 4 januari 2018 18:39 schreef westwoodblvd het volgende:
"When we voted in 2016, we knew we were voting against our present membership of the European Union, but not what the future relationship with Europe would be.

It was like having a General Election in which the question is ‘Do You Like the Government’? If that were the question, few incumbent Governments would be re-elected.

Once we know the alternative, we should be entitled to think again, either through Parliament or an election or through a fresh referendum, which will, of course, not be a re-run of the first because it will involve this time a choice based on knowledge of the alternative to existing EU membership."

Hier heeft hij toch wel een punt.

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Op donderdag 4 januari 2018 13:35 schreef zakjapannertje het volgende:

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https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws(...)-tony-blair-a1586984

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FT via Google: Britain has made itself a Brexit straitjacket

What is left? An agreement comparable with those between the EU and Canada and South Korea. This would remove tariffs and regulatory restrictions on much of the trade in goods, but would be light years away from the access enjoyed by British business through the single market. Crucially, there would be only a small services component.

That would be to see the end of London’s position as the EU’s pre-eminent financial services centre and close the EU’s door to a host of other professional services. Call it a hard Brexit.

Mrs May, in other words, has already made her choice. It is there in the compelling logic of the red lines. For the EU27, the single market is and always will be indivisible. A union grounded in laws allows for nothing else. So the best Mrs May can hope for is an off-the-peg trade deal. If Britain is prepared to pay the subscriptions, associate membership of organisations such as the European aviation and medicines authorities could be tacked on to the agreement.

The government could, of course, change its mind, and did so during the divorce settlement talks. It already seems inevitable that it will have to ask for an extension beyond two years of its proposed transition arrangements. It may also have to seek a delay in the March 2019 departure date. But if we take the prime minister at her word, the shape of the relationship has already been drawn. It is as minimalist, and as costly, as they come.

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Britain not ready for trade talks, warns our own commissioner

Julian King, who holds the bloc’s security portfolio, told the Standard it was too early for talks to move on to discussions about a future relationship.

“We haven’t got there yet,” Mr King said. “I hope we’re going to get there quite soon, that we can start talking about the future relationship, the substance of the future relationship, in key areas like security. That will depend on the UK being reasonably clear about what it wants in different areas.

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Herman Van Rompuy: "Brexit is omkeerbaar, ooit keert Verenigd Koninkrijk terug naar EU"

De voormalige voorzitter van de Europese Raad Herman Van Rompuy denkt dat het Verenigd Koninkrijk "vroeg of laat" zal terugkeren naar de Europese Unie, na de brexit. Dat zegt hij in "De zevende dag". "Niets in het leven is onomkeerbaar."

Zico Saerens
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Het komende jaar zal er nog veel worden onderhandeld tussen het Verenigd Koninkrijk en de Europese Unie over de brexit. Anderhalf jaar geleden besliste een nipte meerderheid van de Britten namelijk om uit de Europese Unie te stappen. Uit de resultaten bleek dat vooral de oudere Britten stemden om uit de Unie te stappen, terwijl de jongeren er liever inbleven.

"Ik hoop en verwacht dus dat de Britten ooit terugkeren naar de Europese Unie", zegt Van Rompuy. "Het is bijna een biologisch verschijnsel. Zij die voor "leave" hebben gekozen, sterven uit. De nieuwe generatie heeft een andere keuze gemaakt."

Maar, zo benadrukt de politicus, op 29 maart 2019 zal het Verenigd Koninkrijk wel degelijk uit de Europese Unie stappen. "Maar niets in het leven is onomkeerbaar. We dachten altijd dat iets als de brexit nooit zou kunnen. Eens lid, altijd lid, zo dachten we. Dat bleek niet correct. Ik ben er zeker van dat de brexit ook omkeerbaar is. Vroeg of laat keert het Verenigd Koninkrijk terug naar de Europese Unie."

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Op maandag 8 januari 2018 13:14 schreef Szura het volgende:
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Oh nee sorry, toch niet. Tory-fail #2149 .

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FT via Google: David Davis attacks EU’s ‘damaging’ no-deal Brexit planning

David Davis has consulted lawyers over the EU’s preparations for a no-deal Brexit, claiming Brussels’ planning is harming British business and breaching the UK’s rights as a member state.

In a letter sent to Theresa May, UK prime minister, last month and seen by the Financial Times, the Brexit secretary pointed to EU “measures” that could jeopardise existing contracts or force British companies to decamp to the continent if the UK leaves the EU without a deal.

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davidallengreen twitterde op dinsdag 09-01-2018 om 08:57:32 This is remarkable, even by Brexit standards.Davis complaining that EU preparing for No Deal.Davis complaining… https://t.co/XigXwTpMxF reageer retweet

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StevePeers twitterde op donderdag 07-12-2017 om 09:47:21 A very good report from @LordsEUCom on the "no deal" scenario - plus transition and extension of membership issues… https://t.co/yUyntyLxYK reageer retweet

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Op dinsdag 9 januari 2018 14:58 schreef Perrin het volgende:

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davidallengreen twitterde op dinsdag 09-01-2018 om 08:57:32 This is remarkable, even by Brexit standards.Davis complaining that EU preparing for No Deal.Davis complaining… https://t.co/XigXwTpMxF reageer retweet

En wilde May zelf ook niet net een "No deal minister" aanstellen?
Theresa May to appoint a 'Cabinet minister for no deal Brexit' in reshuffle

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Op dinsdag 9 januari 2018 14:58 schreef Perrin het volgende:
claiming Brussels’ planning is harming British business and breaching the UK’s rights as a member state.

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claiming Brussels’ planning is harming British business and breaching the UK’s rights as a member state.

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Op dinsdag 9 januari 2018 16:03 schreef Wombcat het volgende:

GVD, die zijn echt te dom om te poepen.

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Op dinsdag 9 januari 2018 16:08 schreef Perrin het volgende:

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Dat, of steeds wanhopiger aan het worden.

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Op dinsdag 9 januari 2018 16:10 schreef Wombcat het volgende:

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Zulke acties helpen natuurlijk niet echt om er op een schappelijke manier uit te komen.