[AMV] Amerikaanse politiek #308 Een tragedie van epische proporties

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Op maandag 22 mei 2017 11:33 schreef klappernootopreis het volgende:

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En ze eigenlijk geen tijd hebben om het nieuws "aan te dikken" want zowat elke dag dient zich een nieuw Trump-schandaal aan..

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Op maandag 22 mei 2017 11:51 schreef Barbusse het volgende:

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Nou ja, beleid is beleid en valt altijd wel te verdedigen, afhankelijk van je standpunten natuurlijk. Maar het ontslaan van Comey, zeker gezien de redenen, z'n zelfverrijking dmv golftripjes naar Mar a Lago, doorgeven van classified info... Hoe kun je dat met een stalen gezicht zien als oneerlijk als de pers erover bericht en vraagtekens zet bij zulke acties en gedrag?

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Op maandag 22 mei 2017 11:54 schreef Ludachrist het volgende:

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Simpel. Is nooit gebeurd, fake news. Anonieme bronnen zijn geen bronnen, is geen bewijs voor. Kom maar met hard bewijs.

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Op maandag 22 mei 2017 11:51 schreef Barbusse het volgende:

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Nou ja, beleid is beleid en valt altijd wel te verdedigen, afhankelijk van je standpunten natuurlijk. Maar het ontslaan van Comey, zeker gezien de redenen, z'n zelfverrijking dmv golftripjes naar Mar a Lago, doorgeven van classified info... Hoe kun je dat met een stalen gezicht zien als oneerlijk als de pers erover bericht en vraagtekens zet bij zulke acties en gedrag?

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ThePlumLineGS twitterde op maandag 22-05-2017 om 12:11:59 Drain the Swamp Watch: WH tries new tactic to block transparency into work of former lobbyists for admin:… https://t.co/uCrMrW4ZC3 reageer retweet

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Op maandag 22 mei 2017 12:21 schreef klappernootopreis het volgende:

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met dè Godwin van 2017: Fake news.

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margarettalev twitterde op maandag 22-05-2017 om 11:40:32 #AF1 makes a little history w direct flight to Tel Aviv from Riyadh @realDonaldTrump @POTUS https://t.co/ddUTMPHI5r reageer retweet

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Op maandag 22 mei 2017 12:24 schreef Nibb-it het volgende:

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ThePlumLineGS twitterde op maandag 22-05-2017 om 12:11:59 Drain the Swamp Watch: WH tries new tactic to block transparency into work of former lobbyists for admin:… https://t.co/uCrMrW4ZC3 reageer retweet

Genot. Trump zet die ambtenaartjes mooi voor joker!

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Op maandag 22 mei 2017 12:27 schreef antiderivative het volgende:

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margarettalev twitterde op maandag 22-05-2017 om 11:40:32 #AF1 makes a little history w direct flight to Tel Aviv from Riyadh @realDonaldTrump @POTUS https://t.co/ddUTMPHI5r reageer retweet

Netanyahu says he hopes that one day an Israeli PM will be able to fly from Tel Aviv to Riyadh, as Trump did today.

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Op maandag 22 mei 2017 12:30 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:

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Geheel onverwacht weer, deze maatregel.

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Op maandag 22 mei 2017 11:57 schreef Barbusse het volgende:

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Ja, ik lees de spinsels van Elzies en andere van de realiteit losstaande zielen. Ik vraag me gewoon af hoe je het voor elkaar krijgt om zo zelfverkozen blind te zijn. C'est tout.

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Trump Turns Politically Correct in Saudi Arabia
The president says wildly offensive things when the objects of his derision aren’t around, but crumples when he actually meets them.

Donald Trump appears to have envisioned his speech on Sunday in Riyadh as an answer to Barack Obama’s 2009 address in Cairo. And reading the two side by side is illuminating. The speeches differ in many ways, but none more striking than this: Trump’s speech was far more politically correct.

“Political correctness,” as it is used in common parlance, means avoiding hard truths so as not to offend the people around you. And Trump made his hostility to political correctness a centerpiece of his campaign. Nowhere was this more evident than in his discussion of “radical Islam.” Again and again, Trump blamed America’s vulnerability to jihadist terrorism on President Obama and Hillary Clinton’s refusal honestly to speak about the pathologies of Muslims and Islam. At a Wisconsin town hall in March of last year, CNN’s Anderson Cooper asked, “Do you trust Muslims in America?” Trump responded, “We have a problem, and we can try and be very politically correct and pretend we don’t have a problem, but, Anderson, we have a major, major problem.” In June, in defending his proposed ban on Muslim immigration to the United States, Trump declared that, “The current politically correct response cripples our ability to talk and to think and act clearly” to keep America safe from terrorism.

But for all the pillorying Obama received for supposedly whitewashing the problems of the Islamic world, his Cairo speech actually addressed them quite bluntly. Speaking at Egypt’s prestigious Cairo University, Obama condemned Holocaust denial in Muslim countries, calling it “baseless, ignorant, and hateful.” He denounced people who “threaten Israel with destruction” and “repeat vile stereotypes about Jews.” He highlighted the oppression of women in Muslim lands, declaring that “a woman who is denied an education is denied equality. And it is no coincidence that countries where women are well-educated are far more likely to be prosperous.” He referenced the Middle East’s economic failures, arguing that “no development strategy can be based only upon what comes out of the ground, nor can it be sustained while young people are out of work.” And in a clear challenge to his host, Egyptian dictator Hosni Mubarak, he insisted that “all people yearn for certain things: the ability to speak your mind and have a say in how you are governed; confidence in the rule of law and the equal administration of justice; government that is transparent and doesn't steal from the people; the freedom to live as you choose. Those are not just American ideas, they are human rights, and that is why we will support them everywhere.”

Compare that to Trump, who said virtually nothing that caused his hosts any discomfort. Trump criticized terrorist groups like ISIS for their “persecution of Jews,” and he condemned Iran for pledging “the destruction of Israel.” But since ISIS and Iran are Riyadh’s most bitter foes, those condemnations won’t have bothered the Saudi monarchs at all. Unlike Obama, Trump avoided the broader problem of anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial in Islamic countries, a problem in which his Saudi hosts are deeply complicit. Nor did he even hint at the fact that Saudi Arabia still does not recognize Israel.

On the question of women’s rights, it was much the same. Trump attacked jihadist terrorists for “the oppression of women.” But he described King Salman’s government as a virtual beacon of women’s rights. “Saudi Arabia’s Vision for 2030 is an important and encouraging statement of tolerance, respect, empowering women, and economic development,” Trump declared. You would never have known that women in the Kingdom still can’t drive.

Trump didn’t even mention the words “democracy,” “liberty,” or “freedom.” To the contrary, in a sentence that will bring grins to autocrats across the region, he declared that, “We are not here to lecture—we are not here to tell other people how to live, what to do, who to be.”

Trump did condemn “extremism.” But speaking in the country he has accused of complicity in 9/11, he did not once pointedly suggest that any Middle East regime except Iran’s might bear any responsibility for that extremism. Rather than suggesting, as both Obama and George W. Bush did, that the authoritarianism and corruption of Arab governments might have helped spawn groups like al-Qaeda and ISIS, Trump reversed the causality. The Middle East’s “untapped potential” he declared, “is held at bay by bloodshed and terror.” And in so doing, he endorsed the agenda that Saudi Arabia and other Sunni Arab dictatorships have been urging for years: Help us confront Iran and kill “terrorists” (which includes anyone who opposes our hold on power) and all will be well. In his speech in Riyadh, Trump didn’t even use the phrase that he endlessly excoriated Clinton and Obama for avoiding: “radical Islamic terrorism.” He talked about “extremism.” But never used it as an adjective to modify the noun “Islam.”

None of this should be a surprise. Trump is a coward. He says wildly offensive things when the objects of his derision aren’t around, but crumples when he actually meets them. In his presidential announcement speech, Trump called Mexican immigrants “rapists.” But when he sat down with his Hispanic Advisory Council, he proved “humble” and “conciliatory” and called mass deportations “neither possible nor humane.” During the campaign, he endlessly trashed Mexico’s government. But when he actually arrived in Mexico City last August, he declared the trip a “great, great, honor” and when President Enrique Peña Nieto asked him about his famous pledge to make Mexico pay for a wall between the two countries, Trump refused to discuss the subject. During the campaign, Trump accused Black Lives Matter of being responsible for the murder of police, and described African American living conditions as hellish. But when he actually showed up at a black church in Detroit last September, he spent most of his time flattering his hosts. Trump’s speech, noted The Washington Post, constituted a “jarring shift in tone and message.” During the campaign, Trump repeatedly claimed that China was manipulating its currency. But after meeting with China’s president, he acknowledged that was not true.

The Saudis appear thrilled that Trump was so conciliatory on his visit. They should enjoy themselves while they can. Americans have learned this about Trump: What he says to your face often bears no relationship to what he says behind your back.

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Op maandag 22 mei 2017 09:32 schreef antiderivative het volgende:

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BarakRavid twitterde op zondag 21-05-2017 om 12:21:16 PM Netanyahu ordered all government ministers to attend the welcoming ceremony for President Trump at the airport tomorrow. No exceptions reageer retweet

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business twitterde op zondag 21-05-2017 om 21:07:56 Netanyahu’s cabinet debates offering Palestinians economic incentives for reviving peace talks https://t.co/0WTc2Lp9DR reageer retweet

POTUS onderweg

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Op maandag 22 mei 2017 12:24 schreef Barbusse het volgende:

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Ja, dat is idd wel de moderne versie van je vingers in je oren stoppen en heel hard "NANANANANA" roepen. Bijzonder kinderachtig is het. Net zoals het "BUT HER EMAILS!!!"-gehuil trouwens.

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Op maandag 22 mei 2017 12:24 schreef Barbusse het volgende:

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Ja, dat is idd wel de moderne versie van je vingers in je oren stoppen en heel hard "NANANANANA" roepen. Bijzonder kinderachtig is het. Net zoals het "BUT HER EMAILS!!!"-gehuil trouwens.

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Op maandag 22 mei 2017 13:02 schreef crystal_meth het volgende:

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In het vorige deel was er slechts één post die haar emails vermeldde. Van ene Barbusse...

_{disclaimer: heb enkel op "email" gezocht.}

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Op maandag 22 mei 2017 12:44 schreef antiderivative het volgende:
Whiskers vroeg gisteren om de agenda plus tijden:

9:30. Depart Riyadh, Saudi Arabia en route to Tel Aviv, Israel
12:15. Arrive in Tel Aviv, Israel and participate in the Airport Welcome Ceremony
13:20. Bilateral meeting with President Reuven Rivlin
13:55. Statement together with Israeli President
14:15. Visit the Church of the Holy Sepulchre
15:25. Visit the Western Wall
18:00. Meeting with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
19:25. Statement together with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
19:30. Dinner with the Israeli Prime Minister

Lokale tijd. Ze liggen trouwens wel voor op schema.

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SeanLavery twitterde op maandag 22-05-2017 om 13:59:11 In interview for DEPSECDEF, Trump aides asked Flournoy a sinister question: “What would it take for you to resign?"https://t.co/ZBVXGNkA64 reageer retweet

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Op maandag 22 mei 2017 14:01 schreef Bluesdude het volgende:
https://joop.vara.nl/kijk(...)peech-legally-blonde

Madame Trump jatte speechfragments van een heuse presidentsvrouw.
Nu is het monsieur Trump die jatte, van een filmrol.
Wat is dat nou . Kleinzielige speechwriters en presidentsechtpaar.
Neem de moeite zelf originele teksten te schrijven !!!
Zo schep je het idee dat het echtpaar Trump nep is.

( of was dit ook de bedoeling van de speechwriters? Of ze zijn zelf nep/incapabel)

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wrightr twitterde op maandag 22-05-2017 om 14:37:17 "Trump's Simplistic Strategy on Jihadism"--my @newyorker piece on #Trump let's-make-a-deal" policy on extremism. https://t.co/62DbbQJoSD reageer retweet