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0s.gif Op zondag 5 februari 2017 20:30 schreef Orangecollorr het volgende:

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Ik ga nog een stap verder. Als de Turken het echt willen dan nemen ze Damascus + Athene tegelijkertijd over. Turkije tegen Syrië is oneerlijk omdat Syrië compleet verwoest is en een leger heeft die je zo om ver kunt duwen. Dus doe Griekenland ook maar erbij.
gast ben je 12 ofzo?
Ik heb Hem niet uit vrees voor de hel noch uit liefde voor het paradijs gediend, want dan zou ik als de slechte huurling zijn geweest; ik heb hem veeleer gediend in liefde tot Hem en in verlangen naar Hem.
-Rabia Al-Basri
  zondag 5 februari 2017 @ 20:31:54 #52
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Ik ga nog een stap verder. Als de Turken het echt willen dan nemen ze Damascus + Athene tegelijkertijd over. Turkije tegen Syrië is oneerlijk omdat Syrië compleet verwoest is en een leger heeft die je zo om ver kunt duwen. Dus doe Griekenland ook maar erbij.
Zeg kleuter, we proberen het hier een beetje op niveau te houden.
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10s.gif Op zondag 5 februari 2017 20:31 schreef Slayage het volgende:

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gast ben je 12 ofzo?
Dat is dus geen grap. Vergeet niet dat Turkije een populatie heeft van ruim 80 miljoen en een leger die momenteel in de top 10 lijst zit van de meest machtigste legers ter wereld. (nummer 8 om precies te zijn)
Geen
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0s.gif Op zondag 5 februari 2017 20:32 schreef Orangecollorr het volgende:

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Dat is dus geen grap. Vergeet niet dat Turkije een populatie heeft van ruim 80 miljoen en een leger die momenteel in de top 10 lijst zit van de meest machtigste legers ter wereld. (nummer 8 om precies te zijn)
ja man. i give up. you got me there.
Ik heb Hem niet uit vrees voor de hel noch uit liefde voor het paradijs gediend, want dan zou ik als de slechte huurling zijn geweest; ik heb hem veeleer gediend in liefde tot Hem en in verlangen naar Hem.
-Rabia Al-Basri
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ja man. i give up. you got me there.
Syrië heeft een populatie van 18 miljoen , waarvan 10% aleviet is. En Assad krijgt steun van de alevieten. lol. Dat is een populatie van rond de 2 miljoen.
Geen
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sayed_ridha twitterde op zondag 05-02-2017 om 19:43:25 Graphic: IS suicide bombing on Euphrates Shield in Bza'ah https://t.co/igaPaBrndL reageer retweet
Ik heb Hem niet uit vrees voor de hel noch uit liefde voor het paradijs gediend, want dan zou ik als de slechte huurling zijn geweest; ik heb hem veeleer gediend in liefde tot Hem en in verlangen naar Hem.
-Rabia Al-Basri
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0s.gif Op zondag 5 februari 2017 20:32 schreef Orangecollorr het volgende:

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Dat is dus geen grap. Vergeet niet dat Turkije een populatie heeft van ruim 80 miljoen en een leger die momenteel in de top 10 lijst zit van de meest machtigste legers ter wereld. (nummer 8 om precies te zijn)
Turkije is een papieren tijger. Dat heeft Syrië allang bewezen.
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Turkije is een papieren tijger. Dat heeft Syrië allang bewezen.
dont feed the troll
Ik heb Hem niet uit vrees voor de hel noch uit liefde voor het paradijs gediend, want dan zou ik als de slechte huurling zijn geweest; ik heb hem veeleer gediend in liefde tot Hem en in verlangen naar Hem.
-Rabia Al-Basri
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Syria-Iraq and the Islam war

This is a no-brainer, but it still is beyond the grasp of Democrats, the media, far too many Republicans, and — there are rhetorical indications — President Trump and his advisers. All seem to have been seduced by wishful thinking into believing that if the multitude of nations that are bombing and killing IS fighters and untold numbers of Sunni Muslims succeed in taking — in addition to Aleppo — Mosul, Raqqa, and other cities, the Islamic State’s back will be broken and the war will be won.

Well, no. Even if IS loses every city it now holds — and it might — it will simply shift to Plan B and return to what it does best, namely, insurgency, and after that shift it will be stronger over the long-term. We tend to forget, I think, that between 1776 and 1781 British politicians and generals thought they could defeat General Washington’s army by taking the main American cities and harbors. (NB: Readers may recall that the Soviet and American military invasions of Afghanistan quickly captured all major Afghan cities, but Moscow and Washington still lost their Afghan wars.)

The British were highly successful in this regard. The British army held but evacuated Boston, captured New York and held it for the rest of the war, captured America’s capital city of Philadelphia, and in their spare time captured and held Savannah and Charleston. But who won? The Americans. They won because, after trying to defend but losing New York City to General Howe, Washington and his best generals realized that they could never be defeated by simply losing cities to the British. Such losses were disheartening but they were not fatal. The American leaders kept their army in the field, trained during the winter, used France-provided monetary, ordnance, naval, and manpower effectively (NB: Just as IS is doing with aid from the Sunni tyrannies today), and maintained armed fronts in multiple geographic areas to prevent British power being focused squarely on one.

IS has lost and will continue to lose cities. It will, however, maintain and probably expand the size of its military force because the US-led opposition, formerly composed of the nations of Christendom and Arab tyrannies, has been joined by apostate Iranian and Lebanese Shia forces and the Russian military, still remembered and hated across the Sunni world as the butchers of Sunni Afghans.

It hard to believe that either IS chief Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, his religious and military lieutenants, or any other senior Islamist leader could have expected that Allah would be so pleased with their worldwide jihad that He would send an ensemble of Islam’s most lethal military and religious enemies to attack the jihad in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan, and Libya. In so doing, Allah gave the Islamists not only proof of his approval of their actions, but a solid-gold recruiting tool, one with an unrivaled potential for expanding Islamist manpower so long as the current array of Islam’s enemies remain in the field. Looking at the Almighty’s gift from the Islamists’ perspective, an exclamation by them of “Allahu Akhbar!” seems to be a perfectly appropriate reaction.

It is more than likely that the war against IS will become more savage and and geographically widespread after IS has lost some or all of its cities. The post-cities war, moreover, cannot be fought only with air power and not-meant-to-win-wars organizations like the Special Forces and CIA. The post-cities wars — if the U.S. and its genuinely odious associates really intend to win — will require the use of very large numbers of ground troops who are sure to be engaged in close-quarters combat. This reality will insure far higher numbers of U.S. and Western casualties in overseas combat, and an increasing number inside the United States and the European nations as the millions of unwanted, unneeded, and unvetted young Arab male immigrants begin to pick up the pace of the military attacks they entered America and Europe to wage.

In short, there’s nothing going on in Iraq and Syria, at least from the American perspective, except that the national government is busily digging an ever deeper and more lethal hole in which to pour young American men and women in uniform, military personnel who will pay a price in the lives and limbs far beyond what their deceased predecessors have already paid for the accomplishment of nothing expect an ever broadening, unnecessary, and interventionist war.

Any way out of the mess? Only one sure one, get all U.S. forces out of Syria and Iraq and let the Sunni-vs-Shia sectarian war begin and consume the region.

Michael Scheuer, ex CIA troll
5 FEB 2017
  Forum Admin/Beste/Leukste FA 2022 zondag 5 februari 2017 @ 21:44:54 #60
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dont feed the troll
dit aub. Laten we het hier op het niveau houden wat ik gewend ben. Hoog dus.
''Tuurlijk is het een onoogelijk lelijk spuugding. Kun je d'r toch nog wel aan gehecht zijn? Je houdt toch ook van je moeder?''
  zondag 5 februari 2017 @ 21:51:36 #61
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One who deceives will always find those who allow themselves to be deceived.
- Niccolo Machiavelli, Chapter XVIII, Il Principe.
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ik kan deze move niet volgen. if true.

QalaatAlMudiq twitterde op zondag 05-02-2017 om 22:37:34 After new armoured convoy reached today #Azaz region, #TSK started shelling #SDF/#YPG positions around Tell Rifaat. reageer retweet
QalaatAlMudiq twitterde op zondag 05-02-2017 om 22:06:27 E. #Aleppo: reports a Su-22 crashed in #Nayrab Airbase, killing its pilot Colonel Basil Salah. https://t.co/75nLPjtQnE reageer retweet
Ik heb Hem niet uit vrees voor de hel noch uit liefde voor het paradijs gediend, want dan zou ik als de slechte huurling zijn geweest; ik heb hem veeleer gediend in liefde tot Hem en in verlangen naar Hem.
-Rabia Al-Basri
  maandag 6 februari 2017 @ 00:53:18 #63
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Wat 'n wereld.
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Ik ga nog een stap verder. Als de Turken het echt willen dan nemen ze Damascus + Athene tegelijkertijd over. Turkije tegen Syrië is oneerlijk omdat Syrië compleet verwoest is en een leger heeft die je zo om ver kunt duwen. Dus doe Griekenland ook maar erbij.
Door dit soort grootheidswaanzin kotst haast heel de wereld Turken en Turkije uit.
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Door dit soort grootheidswaanzin kotst haast heel de wereld Turken en Turkije uit.
Deze gast noemt zichzelf ook nog eens gematigd en democratisch. Maar praat ondertussen wel over een tweede groot Ottomaans rijk. Er rennen in Syrië duizenden van die jongens met waanideeën over een beloofd kalifaat rond die denken dat ze door god zelf gestuurd zijn. Levensgevaarlijk.
Racist
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Charles_Lister twitterde op donderdag 02-02-2017 om 16:00:03 Important - The 1st criminal case against #Assad regime officials (based on #Caesar files) has begun in #Spain:... https://t.co/QuxXw1Bhgz reageer retweet
de russen beginnen nu ook jordanie uit de invloedssfeer van de amerikanen te trekken :P

sayed_ridha twitterde op maandag 06-02-2017 om 08:03:38 Russia, Iran Turkey begin trilateral meeting in Astana with UN + Jordan participating after being invited by Russia https://t.co/x1bmXCBNvm reageer retweet
alternative facts je weetz ;)

Ik heb Hem niet uit vrees voor de hel noch uit liefde voor het paradijs gediend, want dan zou ik als de slechte huurling zijn geweest; ik heb hem veeleer gediend in liefde tot Hem en in verlangen naar Hem.
-Rabia Al-Basri
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How Iran is learning from Russia in Syria

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Iranian military cooperation with Russia in Syria is dramatically increasing Tehran’s ability to plan and conduct complex conventional operations. Iranians are learning by seeing and by doing, and are consciously trying to capture lessons-learned in Syria for use throughout their military and para-military forces. Iran is fielding a conventional force capability to complement and in some cases supplant its reliance on asymmetric means of combat. Russia is assisting Iran’s military leadership conduct this effort. It is introducing Iran and its proxies to signature Russian campaign-design concepts such as cauldron battles, multiple simultaneous and successive operations, and frontal aviation in Syria. These concepts are the fruit of almost a century of advanced Soviet and Russian thought and hard-won experience in conventional military operations. This knowledge-transfer can help the Iranian military advance its understanding of conventional war far more rapidly than it might otherwise be able to do. It can help Iran become a formidable conventional military power in the Middle East in relatively short order, permanently changing the balance of power and the security environment in the region.

The Iranian military is using the Syrian conflict as a learning environment for its forces. The Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC)’s Imam Hossein University (IHU), which is home to the IRGC’s advanced military education programs, has deployed students to Syria almost certainly as part of an internal study and educational program for Iranian officers. Iranian officers recognize the benefits of experiencing Russian military operations. One Iranian major general, for example, praised Russia’s use of the Shahid Nojeh Air Base in Iran’s Hamedan province for exposing Iranian Air Force personnel to “[Russian] planes and the way they were operated.” Iran has also recently conducted exercises specifically to capture and practice lessons learned from Syria.

Conventional Military Planning

Close cooperation between Russian and Iranian military personnel at the operational and tactical levels enables this knowledge transfer between the two militaries. Senior Russian and Iranian officers engaged in operational planning are in frequent contact in joint operations rooms. On the ground, at least some Russian special forces cooperate closely within Iranian-backed proxy forces, such as Lebanese Hezbollah, likely putting them in close contact with IRGC officers who also partner with, and in some cases command, those forces. Iranian troops are probably supporting targeting for Russian air strikes, although Iranian forces are likely not serving as forward air controllers for Russian aircraft. Moreover, the Russian-Iranian security axis in Syria is able to coordinate efforts across multiple fronts. Russia will surge airstrikes in northern Syria so that Iran and the Syrian regime can focus their own efforts near the capital, for example.

Iran and its local proxy forces including Hezbollah and Iraqi Shia militias demonstrated their ability to use signature Russian doctrinal approaches in their successful campaign against the opposition in Aleppo City with support from Russian airstrikes and advisors. Pro-regime forces supported by Hezbollah, Afghan, and Iraqi Shi’a militia fighters led by regular IRGC Ground Forces and Quds Force operatives began launching simultaneous and successive operations against opposition-held districts in and around Aleppo City beginning as early as October 2015. Pro-regime and Iranian-backed forces continued to use simultaneous and successive operations to envelop opposition-held Aleppo City and tighten their siege throughout late 2016. Iran and pro-regime forces had not demonstrated the capability to conduct operations of this type on the Syrian battlefield prior to the Russian intervention in September 2015.

Iran, Russia, and the Syrian regime recaptured Aleppo City from the opposition as the result of a three-phased campaign plan to siege and collapse opposition-held districts of the city that demonstrated Russian campaign design. Pro-regime forces supported by Russia and Iran first severed the opposition-held ground line of communication north of Aleppo City on February 3 and subsequently completed the siege by severing the final opposition-held ground line of communication northwest of Aleppo City on July 28. Russia, Iran, and the Syrian regime collapsed the opposition-held pocket through an aggressive air and ground campaign in Aleppo City, forcing the surrender and full withdrawal of the opposition on December 13 and 22 respectively. This type of envelopment is a signature of Russian cauldron battles seen in operations in eastern Ukraine, and was not employed at this scale in Syria prior to the Russian intervention in September 2015.

Russia has also introduced Iran to frontal aviation (the use of strike aircraft assigned to ground forces to provide a mix of close air support and battlefield air interdiction operations that are hallmarks of Soviet operational art). Russia regularly conducts airstrikes against multiple opposition frontlines to fix opposition forces along multiple axes and hinder the movement of reinforcements, facilitating advances by pro-regime forces supported by Iran and Iranian proxy forces. Iranian-backed fighters are probably directly engaged in supporting Russian airstrikes by supplying intelligence to Russian forces, possibly in cooperation to Russian Special Forces active on the ground in Syria. Iranian forces enabled pro-regime forces on the ground to exploit Russian airpower over the course of the 15-month campaign to recapture Aleppo, particularly during the February operation to relieve the siege of Nubl and al Zahra north of Aleppo. Iranian forces suffered over 50 casualties during the first half of February, the majority of which likely participated in this operation.

Conventional Capabilities

Iranian military planners have probably learned from the success of the Russian air campaign to prioritize the development of a close air support capability that would allow Iran to replicate the effects of Russian air support with proxy forces in other theaters. Iranian military planners are more than willing to use Russian airpower to enable pro-regime gains, but they would almost certainly prefer to possess such a capability themselves. The IRGC Ground Forces created a new air assault unit in late February 2016, possibly influenced by observing Russian Special Forces operations around Aleppo earlier that year. Iran has also asked Russia to sell it an entire fleet of advanced Su-30 fighter-bombers (roughly equivalent in capability with the US F-15E Strike Eagle). Such a capability would significantly reduce Tehran’s reliance on Russian (and, in Iraq, American) fixed-wing aviation to support its ground operations.

The Syrian campaign has also allowed Iranian military officials to observe methods of integrating surface-to-surface and surface-to-air-missile capabilities into conventional military operations. Russia has demonstrated the utility of pairing long-range missile capabilities with air defense systems in order to showcase regional power projection and constrain U.S. freedom of maneuver in the theater. This knowledge transfer is significant considering that Iranian military officials have signaled their intention to boost the conventional applications of their formidable missile arsenal. With the Russian delivery of the advanced S-300 air defense system to Iran in October 2016, Iran can now begin to deploy its increasingly-advanced ballistic missile systems with advanced air-defense systems to create an offensive-defensive strike complex similar to what the Russians have established in Syria.

Implications

The knowledge transfer between Iran and Russia presents the U.S. with a more capable Iran that remains hostile to the U.S. and its allies in the region. This transfer of Russian capabilities represents the latest high-water mark in Iran’s effort to increase its own conventional military capabilities. Iranian conventional military capabilities will continue to increase rapidly as long as Russian and Iranian forces continue to operate alongside each other in Syria simply by learning the best practices for developing, deploying, and using such forces in combat. Russia is poised to teach Iran additional methods of warfare as it prepares for the next phase of the pro-regime campaign in Syria. The expansion of Iranian maneuver and combined force capabilities will not be limited to Syria, however. Iran will likely export these capabilities to other theaters such as Iraq. The U.S. and its regional partners must recognize that the deep Russo-Iranian military cooperation in Syria is in itself a major threat to the balance of power within the Middle East.
http://www.understandingw(...)earning-russia-syria
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de russen beginnen nu ook jordanie uit de invloedssfeer van de amerikanen te trekken :P
Jordan eyes center stage in Russia’s anti-terrorism policy

http://www.al-monitor.com(...)i-terror-policy.html
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Ik heb Hem niet uit vrees voor de hel noch uit liefde voor het paradijs gediend, want dan zou ik als de slechte huurling zijn geweest; ik heb hem veeleer gediend in liefde tot Hem en in verlangen naar Hem.
-Rabia Al-Basri
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QalaatAlMudiq twitterde op maandag 06-02-2017 om 11:40:54 #EuphratesShield forces in outskirts of #Bzaah preparing for assault on #ISIS (#TSK reinforcements arrived yesterda… https://t.co/6Z4XAiSCH9 reageer retweet
QalaatAlMudiq twitterde op maandag 06-02-2017 om 10:00:41 #EuphratesShield forces launched another assault on #Bzaah backed by #TAF F-16s. Intense clashes ongoing with #ISIS... https://t.co/IrhOrgAcya reageer retweet
Ik heb Hem niet uit vrees voor de hel noch uit liefde voor het paradijs gediend, want dan zou ik als de slechte huurling zijn geweest; ik heb hem veeleer gediend in liefde tot Hem en in verlangen naar Hem.
-Rabia Al-Basri
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Syrian army, allies cut off Islamic State supply route near al-Bab: monitor

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Syria's army and its allies advanced towards the northern Islamic-State held city of al-Bab on Monday, cutting off the last main supply route that connects to militant strongholds further east towards Iraq, a monitor said.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, a British-based group monitoring the war, said the army and the Lebanese Hezbollah group made gains southeast of al-Bab overnight.

Backed by air strikes, government forces and their allies severed the main road that links the city near the Turkish border to other IS-held territory in Raqqa and Deir al-Zor provinces.

Islamic State militants are now effectively besieged in the area, by the army from the south and by Turkish-backed rebels from the north, as Damascus and Ankara race to capture the largest IS stronghold in Aleppo province.

The Syrian army's advance towards al-Bab risks triggering a confrontation with the Turkish military and its allies, groups fighting under the Free Syria Army banner, which have been waging their own campaign to take the city.

In less than three weeks, Syrian army units moved to within 5 km (3 miles) of al-Bab, as Damascus seeks to stop its neighbor, Turkey, penetrating deeper into a strategic area of northern Syria.
http://www.reuters.com/ar(...)-albab-idUSKBN15L0UF
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kijken of ze in de avond weer gaan terugtrekken :P

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#Syrie: FSA/TSK. regain control of the city of #Bzaa total /#Bzaah several members of ISIS (ISIS) were killed. #EuphratesShield
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Syrian army, allies cut off Islamic State supply route near al-Bab: monitor

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Ik heb Hem niet uit vrees voor de hel noch uit liefde voor het paradijs gediend, want dan zou ik als de slechte huurling zijn geweest; ik heb hem veeleer gediend in liefde tot Hem en in verlangen naar Hem.
-Rabia Al-Basri
  maandag 6 februari 2017 @ 15:41:35 #73
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Usluzhlivyy durak opasnee vrag
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10s.gif Op maandag 6 februari 2017 15:30 schreef Slayage het volgende:
kijken of ze in de avond weer gaan terugtrekken :P

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Die haatbaarden kunnen natuurlijk nog steeds weilandje cross doen maar het wordt wel steeds lastiger ja. Ik ben echt benieuwd of de SAA daadwerkelijk Al-Bab wil pakken of wil voorkomen dat IS zich vanuit Al-Bab richting Deir Hafer kan begeven zodat dat weer lastiger wordt in te nemen.
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IS says it repelled today's attack by FSA on Bza'ah, this is the 4th failed attempt in 3 days
https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/828661008000442370
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0s.gif Op zondag 5 februari 2017 20:32 schreef Orangecollorr het volgende:

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Dat is dus geen grap. Vergeet niet dat Turkije een populatie heeft van ruim 80 miljoen en een leger die momenteel in de top 10 lijst zit van de meest machtigste legers ter wereld. (nummer 8 om precies te zijn)
Het zou dom zijn om dat op het spel te zetten, vind je niet?
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