Hoe ver mag clubliefde gaan?

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Op 11 december 2000 01:56 schreef Kielef het volgende:
Ik heb hulp nodig. Gisteren was er een topic: Voetbal. Daar stond ADO
Den Haag. Mijn serieuze vraag is: Wat betekent ADO?

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* Rosa Evita kijkt vanonder haar oogwimpers even naar DIGGER...niet meteen WEER zo fel reageren skatjuh...tis maar een grapje...

Voor EW: Napoli is in beroep gegaan tegen de straf, woensdag doet de Italiaanse tuchtcommissie uitspraak. Mocht de straf blijven staan, dan zal Napoli de wedstrijd tegen Reginna (dus een nu al cruciale) op ander terrein moeten spelen...

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Op 12 december 2000 13:53 schreef Machiel het volgende:
Dat is het jammere hij reageert nooit zo fel op ons eerder andersom

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Er is er een overleden door een politiekogel vreselijk natuurlijk maar dat ze dan denken dat ze ineens alles kunnen maken bah Beetje scholen en huizen in de brand steken zijn ze gek geworden wellicht? Nee als dit zo door gaat haak ik af...

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Op 07 november 2000 23:21 schreef Machiel het volgende:
Tuurlijk komen er ook hier sporadisch incidenten voor maar molotov cocktails in de tuin van de voorzitter is nog net ff erger en zal hier toch minder snel gebeuren denk ik.

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* DIGGER geeft Elegantly Wasted een dikke Omdat haar cluppie vandaag toch maar mooi in het Olympische wist te winnen van het 'grote' Lazio

Voor het eerst is Napoli uit de degradatiezone en nu ze Edmundo van Vasco da Gama gehuurd hebben hoop ik voor je dat het alleen maar beter gaat met ze EW. Maar vandaag was iig erg kewl, je weekend kan niet meer stuk, dacht ik zo.

ff van een van me favo Ultra sites afgeplukt:

7th January 2001

LAZIO - NAPOLI

Fans fought with each other and police, resulting in 20 people being taken to hospital and scores of others injured inside and outside Rome's main stadium.
The violence started when Napoli fans vandalized two city buses taking them from the train station to Stadio Olimpico, smashing windows and damaging roofs and doors. Outside the stadium, Napoli and Lazio fans scuffled and a Napoli fan was stabbed in the thigh, the ANSA news agency said. The injured Napoli fan was treated at a hospital and released.
A police officer broke his leg trying to restrain ticketless Napoli fans just before kickoff. Once the game began, fans on both sides clashed with police and threw objects on the field. Police waded into the crowd, swinging clubs at taunting fans. By the time it was over, about 100 spectators received first aid and at least 20 more had been sent to the hospital with broken bones and bruises.
After Napoli's surprising 2-1 victory, Lazio fans threw bottles at police outside the stadium and set fire to a car with a Naples license plate.

Another report:

About 3,000 arrived in Rome from Naples for this fixture. Troubles began already at Neaples station as the Napoli fans, most of them without tickets, neither for the train nor for the match, engaged in a battle with the escorting OB, with a result of 12 cops injured by flares, coins and bottles thrown at them.
At their arrival some Napoli fans tried to get in contact with Lazio fans, leading to other short scuffles and heavy damage of 4 coaches arriving from Neaples, which the police escort forced to pass just in front of the Lazio end, and of 2 city busses that brought fans from the railway station to the stadium.
Also a Neaples fans was stabbed in the thigh from a group of Lazio lads. Shortly before the kick off a long hurl of flares and other missiles between Naples and Lazio fans ended with the police operating some charges, with Napoli fans opposing a strong resistance. Again at the end of the match, some Lazio fans tried to wait the Neaples fans at the exit of the away sector, but police charged them back. The final balance says a total of 32 injured during the day. CCTV and police footages will probably lead to a big amount of bans in the next few days/weeks.

7th January 2001

PARMA-REGGINA

After the 0-2 defeat suffered from Parma against Reggina, last team in Serie A at present, a big group of Parma Boys seiged the stadium entrance for more than two hours. The first players that tried to get out of the ground were forced to stay inside as fans were throwing flares and coins. Some lads managed to enter the press room and tried to attack the steward guarding the changing rooms and a scuffle broke out. Finally police had to intervene and a baton charged the crowd, clearing up the area and letting the team's coach to leave the stadium.

7th January 2001

VITERBESE - CATANIA

A few minutes before the end of this 3rd div. match a Catania's lad entered the pitch and punched in the neck of the opponents goalkeeper. Luckily the player didn't suffer heavy damages, though the match had to be stopped for some minutes in order to give assistance to the keeper. The lad then managed to return on the terraces and disappear into the crowd.

6th January 2001

JUVENTUS - FIORENTINA

More than 4,000 made the trip to Torino for this heartfelt match. During the escorted trip from the railway station to the stadium, Fiorentina hools repeatedly tried to get in contact with the Juve lads. A McDonald restaurant near the stadium was assaulted and the Fiorentina mobs battled a lot with the escorting OB. In the meanwhile a Juve mob waiting for the opponents was charged by police with batons and teargas in order to clear the forecourt. Inside the stadium some charges were made into the away supporters end in order to stop the throwing of flares and missiles.

Mja lekker weekendje daaro in Italie.

Wat me trouwens opvalt is de verspreiding van het Hooliganisme daaro. Vroeger waren het slechts enkele clubs die grote problemen hadden, Atalanta, Brescia, Fiorentina en Vicenza, dan had je alles wel zo'n beetje gehad. Dat waren de gewelddadige lui. Die gasten van Lazio (niet voor niet Mussolini's club) waren voornamelijk zwaar racistisch (nu nog overigens) en niet zo zeer gewelddadig.

Maar de afgelopen paar jaren heeft het geweld daar zich enorm uitgebreid, clubs als Roma, Milan, Parma, Inter, Bari, ze hebben er nu allemaal mee te maken. Gaat iig niet de goeie kant op daar en idd Elegantly Wasted, jouw cluppie is de laatste tijd kwa supportersgeweld wel erg vaak negatief in het nieuws...helaas...

[Dit bericht is gewijzigd door DIGGER op 08-01-2001 22:00]

14th January 2001

VERONA - NAPOLI

Trouble broke out before the match when Napoli ultras clashed with police. After the match there was more indicents when Verona ultras clashed with police as they tried to get near the Napoli ultras. For the first time at a football match in Italy Verona hools used gas masks to combat the tear gas that was used by the police. The masks had originally been taken to the match by Verona fans as a joke to wind up Napoli Ultras but were then used during the trouble with the police.

Deze keer zal alleen de meeste aandacht wel uitgaan naar die Ultra's van Hellas Verona, vanwege hun gebruik van die gasmaskers.

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Op 22 januari 2001 00:23 schreef Elegantly Wasted het volgende:

Mét Edmundo

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OK komt ie weer:

Allereerst maar ff over Lazio: Die speelden zaterdag al, thuis tegen Inter. Afgezien van het gebruikelijke uitjoelen van donkere spelers van de tegenpartij (Vaste prik daaro bij Lazio) was er namelijk een opmerkelijk iets: Op de tribune hing een enorm groot spandoek met een doodswens richting de scheidsrechter van dienst, de scheidsrechter die vorig jaar een enorme blunder in het nadeel van Lazio maakte wat ze toen bijna de titel kostte. Op het spandoek stond dit geschreven: "DE SANTIS (naam van de betreffende scheidsrechter), SPORT JUSTICE ACQUITTED YOU, BUT WE SENTENCE YOU...TO DEATH"
FL 37.500 was de boete van de Italiaanse voetbalbond voor dit 'geintje'

Verder werd Milan - AS Roma ontsierd door hevige rellen tijdens en na de wedstrijd, die aanhielden tot na middernacht, waren er rellen bij Atalanta - Fiorentina (dat viel gezien de reputatie der beider fans wel te verwachten) en bij Vicenza - Brescia (ook geen fans die bekend staan als lieverdsjes van beide clubs)

Hier ff een klein plaatje van scenes op de tribune van San Siro zondagavond:

En dan Napoli....

Napoli heeft, voor de 2e keer dit seizoen, een ban te pakken. Ze moeten wederom een wedstrijd spelen in een ander stadion dan San Paulo, naar aanleiding van ongeregeldheden afgelopen weekend in de thuiswedstrijd tegen Udinese. Een fan gooide gedurende de wedstrijd een stuk vuurwerk op het veld wat zo enorm hard knalde dat de spelers compleet gedesorienteerd op het veld stonden voor enkele minuten. Het betreft overigens de thuiswedstrijd tegen Fiorentina van 4 februari, die nu in Palermo zal plaats vinden. Napoli gaat niet tegen de sanctie in beroep.

Voor wat completere verhalen moet je maar weer op http://website.lineone.net/%7Eview4/news.html kijken.

ow, vind net nog een interessante site: http://www.xs4all.nl/~elio/napolien.htm ff wat nieuwtjes plaatsen dan voor je:

Suspected thigh strain for Edmundo - Brazilian star Edmundo suffered an injury after 40 minutes of the match against Udinese. According to Napoli's doctor Lino Russo, it will be possible to know how serious the injury is only in a couple of days. Edmundo could miss the two difficult away matches against Roma and Juventus.

En het goede nieuws van vandaag: Napoli Brazilian striker Edmundo today did undergo medical tests that confirmed his thigh strain. The player will be probably available for Fiorentina clash.

Dan nog wat slecht nieuws: Nicola Amoruso didn't like the boos from the Napoli fans and wants to leave. His agent, Antonio Caliendo, called Gigi Pavarese, 'His will to play here is over. We should sell him'.

Ach, laat ik dan eindigen met een mooie foto uit de historie:

Edmundo hit with Ŗ100,000 fine

Monday 19th February 2001

Brazilian star Edmundo has been handed a Ŗ100,000 fine by Napoli for leaving the San Paolo stadium before the end of Sunday's 1-0 win over Internazionale after being substituted.

The controversial forward, who was playing in a withdrawn role behind leading striker David Bellucci, was infuriated when coach Emiliano Mondonico replaced him with Oscar Magoni with 33 minutes still to play.

Edmundo made his displeasure clear, swearing at his boss as he stormed off the pitch. He disappeared into the dressing-room area and had left the ground by the time his team-mates had wrapped up the three points.

Mondonico has always insisted that he can keep the temperamental hit-man in check. In an exclusive interview with onefootball.com last month, he said: "I may be a traditionalist in footballing terms, but I resent the implication that in doing so I don't let players behave like individuals. "Edmundo is one of the most talented footballers in the world. He knows how to win, sometimes he just does things his own way. I can accept that and I don't think fitting him into a team context will be a problem. Some managers like robots. Not me. "A guy like him needs to have the entire team at his service. I can accept that and that is how we're going to play."

But with Napoli desperate to pick up points in their fight to avoid a swift relegation back to Serie B, Edmundo is proving to be a luxury the southern side can ill afford. President Giorgio Corbelli, who spent Ŗ32 million to clear the club's debts in exchange for a 50 per cent stake last year, bowed to fans' demands for a big name and splashed out on the former Fiorentina forward.

Corbelli's use of buzzwords like merchandising, marketing, revenue streams, and turnover did not inspire the fans' trust – all they wanted was a high-profile signing, and now they have one.