NWS Nieuws & Achtergronden
Discussieer hier diepgaander over de actualiteiten.
Pentagon Not Targeting Islamic State Training Camps
No airstrikes against 60 camps producing 1,000 fighters monthly (Updated)
BY: Bill Gertz
August 28, 2015 4:40 pm
The Pentagon has not conducted airstrikes against an estimated 60 Islamic State (IS) training camps that are supplying thousands of fighters each month to the terror group, according to defense and intelligence officials.
The camps are spread throughout Islamic State-controlled areas of Iraq and Syria and are off limits in the U.S.-led international bombing campaign because of concerns about collateral damage, said officials familiar with planning and execution of the yearlong bombing campaign.
Additionally, the IS (also known as ISIS or ISIL) camps have been so successful that Islamic State leaders are considering expanding the camps to Libya and Yemen. Both states have become largely ungoverned areas in recent years.
The failure to target the training camps with U.S. and allied airstrikes is raising questions among some defense and intelligence officials about the commitment of President Obama and his senior aides to the current anti-IS strategy of degrading and ultimately destroying the terror group.
“If we know the location of these camps, and the president wants to destroy ISIS, why are the camps still functioning?” one official critical of the policy asked.
The camps are regarded by U.S. intelligence analysts as a key element in the terror group’s successes in holding and taking new territory. The main benefit of the training camps is that they are providing a continuous supply of new fighters.
An additional worry of intelligence analysts is that some of the foreign fighters being trained in the camps will eventually return to their home countries in Europe and North America to carry out terror attacks.
A White House spokesman declined to comment on the failure to bomb the terror camps and referred questions to the Pentagon.
Pentagon spokesman Maj. Roger M. Cabiness declined to say why no training camps have been bombed. “I am not going to be able to go into detail about our targeting process,” he said.
Cabiness said the U.S.-led coalition has “hit ISIL [an alternative abbreviation for the Islamic State] with more than 6,000 airstrikes.”
“The coalition has also taken out thousands of fighting positions, tanks, vehicles, bomb factories, and training camps,” he said. “We have also stuck their leadership, including most recently on Aug. 18 when a U.S. military airstrike removed Fadhil Ahmad al-Hayali, also known as Hajji Mutazz, the second in command of the terrorist group, from the battlefield.”
Efforts also are being taken to disrupt IS finances and “make it more difficult for the group to attract new foreign fighters,” Cabiness said in an email.
A Central Command spokesman also declined to provide details of what he said were “operational engagements” against IS training camps.
“Once a target is identified as performing a hostile act, or is part of an obvious hostile force, a training camp for example, we prosecute that target in accordance with the coalition rules of engagement and the law of armed conflict,” the spokesman said.
According to the defense and intelligence officials, one reason the training camps have been off limits is that political leaders in the White House and Pentagon fear hitting them will cause collateral damage. Some of the camps are located near civilian facilities and there are concerns that casualties will inspire more jihadists to join the group.
However, military officials have argued that unless the training camps are knocked out, IS will continue to gain ground and recruit and train more fighters for its operations.
Disclosure that the IS training camps are effectively off limits to the bombing campaign comes as intelligence officials in the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and U.S. Central Command, which is in charge of the conflict, have alleged that senior U.S. officials skewed intelligence reports indicating the U.S. strategy against IS is not working or has been less effective than officials have claimed in public.
The Islamic State controls large parts of Syria and Iraq and has attracted tens of thousands of jihadists in both countries and from abroad. The exact number of fighters is not known but intelligence estimates have indicated the numbers have increased over the past year.
The military campaign, known as Operation Inherent Resolve, appears to be floundering despite a yearlong campaign of airstrikes and military training programs aimed to bolstering Iraqi military forces.
A review of Central Command reports on airstrikes since last year reveals that no attacks were carried out against training camps.
Targets instead included Islamic State vehicles, buildings, tactical units, arms caches, fighting positions, snipers, excavators, mortar and machine gun positions, bunkers, and bomb factories.
The risk-averse nature of the airstrike campaign was highlighted last month by Brig. Gen. Thomas Weidley, chief of staff for what the military calls Combined Joint Task Force-Operation Inherent Resolve.
“The coalition continues to use air power responsibly,” Weidley said July 1. “Highly precise deliveries, detailed weaponeering, in-depth target development, collateral damage mitigation, and maximized effects on Daesh, are characteristics of coalition airstrike operation in Iraq and Syria.”
Daesh is another name for the Islamic State.
“The coalition targeting process minimizes collateral damage and maximizes precise effects on Daesh,” Weidley said earlier. “Air crews are making smart decisions and applying tactical patience every day.”
Other coalition spokesman have indicated that targeting has been limited to reaction strikes against operational groups of IS fighters. “When Daesh terrorists expose themselves and their equipment, we will strike them,” Col. Wayne Marotto said May 27.
The military website Long War Journal published a map showing 52 IS training camps and noted that some may no longer be operating because of the U.S.-led bombing campaign.
Bill Roggio, Long War Journal managing editor, said the Islamic State’s training camps are a direct threat to the region and U.S. national security.
“While the vast majority of trainees have been used to fight in local insurgencies, which should be viewed as a threat. Historically jihadist groups have selected a small number of fighters going through their camps to conduct attacks against the West. The Islamic State is most certainly following this model,” he said.
According the map, among the locations in Iraq and Syria where IS is operating training camps are Mosul, Raqqah, Nenewa, Kobane, Aleppo, Fallujah, and Baiji.
The group MEMRI obtained a video of an IS training camp in Nenewa Province, Iraq, dated Oct. 1, 2014.
The video shows a desert outpost with tan tents and around 100 fighters who take part in hand-to-hand combat exercises, weapons training, and religious indoctrination.
Aymenn Jawad Al-Tamimi, an analyst with the Middle East Forum, in June translated details of IS training purportedly obtained from a manual produced by a pro-IS operative in Mosul named Omar Fawaz.
Among those involved in ideological training for IS jihadists in Iraq is Bahraini cleric Turki Binali, who wrote an unofficial biography of IS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, Al-Tamimi stated in a blog post June 24.
According to a document thought to be written by Fawaz, training differs for native Iraqis and Syrians as opposed to foreign fighters, who generally are less experienced militarily than the regional trainees.
The document also reveals IS plans to export military manpower abroad, including Libya.
“Sessions for the muhajireen [foreign fighters] brothers last 90 days or more, and at the highest level deal with organization, determination, and intelligence operation, including training on heavy weaponry in addition to comprehensive Sharia sessions and multiple tests,” according to a translation of the document. “Sessions for the Ansar from the people of Iraq and al-Sham range between 30 to 50 days.”
The process begins with an application form and questionnaire regarding education, skills, viewpoints, and whether their backgrounds can be verified.
The training then includes physical fitness, martial arts practice, weapons training, and ideological indoctrination.
After a week of training, jihadists with special abilities are selected and placed in units. The units include special forces, air defense, sniper units, a “caliphate army,” an “army of adversity,” and administrative units for those capable of using electronic devices and accounting.
“The rest are distributed in fronts and camps after the end of the military camp training according to where they are needed,” the report said, noting that all graduates are tested in Sharia at the conclusion of their training.
The New York Times reported Tuesday that the Pentagon inspector general is investigating allegations that military officials doctored intelligence reports in an attempt to present more optimistic accounts of the U.S. military’s efforts in the conflict.
The probe was triggered by a DIA analyst who stated that Central Command officials were improperly rewriting intelligence assessments prepared for policy makers, including President Obama.
The Daily Beast reported Wednesday that senior military and intelligence officials inappropriately pressured U.S. terrorism analysts to alter estimates of the strength of the Islamic State to portray the group as weaker.
Central Command, on its website, stated that in the year since the Iraq operation began on Aug. 7, 2014, a total of 6,419 air strikes were carried out.
Targets damaged or destroyed include 119 tanks, 340 Humvees, 510 staging areas, 3,262 buildings, 2,577 fighting positions, 196 oil infrastructure targets, and 3,680 “other” targets not further identified.
Bron
Kampen niet aanvallen vanwege mogelijke "collateral damage"?
Maar targets in steden vernietigen mag wel?
[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door #ANONIEM op 30-08-2015 19:10:34 ]
No airstrikes against 60 camps producing 1,000 fighters monthly (Updated)
BY: Bill Gertz
August 28, 2015 4:40 pm
The Pentagon has not conducted airstrikes against an estimated 60 Islamic State (IS) training camps that are supplying thousands of fighters each month to the terror group, according to defense and intelligence officials.
The camps are spread throughout Islamic State-controlled areas of Iraq and Syria and are off limits in the U.S.-led international bombing campaign because of concerns about collateral damage, said officials familiar with planning and execution of the yearlong bombing campaign.
Additionally, the IS (also known as ISIS or ISIL) camps have been so successful that Islamic State leaders are considering expanding the camps to Libya and Yemen. Both states have become largely ungoverned areas in recent years.
The failure to target the training camps with U.S. and allied airstrikes is raising questions among some defense and intelligence officials about the commitment of President Obama and his senior aides to the current anti-IS strategy of degrading and ultimately destroying the terror group.
“If we know the location of these camps, and the president wants to destroy ISIS, why are the camps still functioning?” one official critical of the policy asked.
The camps are regarded by U.S. intelligence analysts as a key element in the terror group’s successes in holding and taking new territory. The main benefit of the training camps is that they are providing a continuous supply of new fighters.
An additional worry of intelligence analysts is that some of the foreign fighters being trained in the camps will eventually return to their home countries in Europe and North America to carry out terror attacks.
A White House spokesman declined to comment on the failure to bomb the terror camps and referred questions to the Pentagon.
Pentagon spokesman Maj. Roger M. Cabiness declined to say why no training camps have been bombed. “I am not going to be able to go into detail about our targeting process,” he said.
Cabiness said the U.S.-led coalition has “hit ISIL [an alternative abbreviation for the Islamic State] with more than 6,000 airstrikes.”
“The coalition has also taken out thousands of fighting positions, tanks, vehicles, bomb factories, and training camps,” he said. “We have also stuck their leadership, including most recently on Aug. 18 when a U.S. military airstrike removed Fadhil Ahmad al-Hayali, also known as Hajji Mutazz, the second in command of the terrorist group, from the battlefield.”
Efforts also are being taken to disrupt IS finances and “make it more difficult for the group to attract new foreign fighters,” Cabiness said in an email.
A Central Command spokesman also declined to provide details of what he said were “operational engagements” against IS training camps.
“Once a target is identified as performing a hostile act, or is part of an obvious hostile force, a training camp for example, we prosecute that target in accordance with the coalition rules of engagement and the law of armed conflict,” the spokesman said.
According to the defense and intelligence officials, one reason the training camps have been off limits is that political leaders in the White House and Pentagon fear hitting them will cause collateral damage. Some of the camps are located near civilian facilities and there are concerns that casualties will inspire more jihadists to join the group.
However, military officials have argued that unless the training camps are knocked out, IS will continue to gain ground and recruit and train more fighters for its operations.
Disclosure that the IS training camps are effectively off limits to the bombing campaign comes as intelligence officials in the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and U.S. Central Command, which is in charge of the conflict, have alleged that senior U.S. officials skewed intelligence reports indicating the U.S. strategy against IS is not working or has been less effective than officials have claimed in public.
The Islamic State controls large parts of Syria and Iraq and has attracted tens of thousands of jihadists in both countries and from abroad. The exact number of fighters is not known but intelligence estimates have indicated the numbers have increased over the past year.
The military campaign, known as Operation Inherent Resolve, appears to be floundering despite a yearlong campaign of airstrikes and military training programs aimed to bolstering Iraqi military forces.
A review of Central Command reports on airstrikes since last year reveals that no attacks were carried out against training camps.
Targets instead included Islamic State vehicles, buildings, tactical units, arms caches, fighting positions, snipers, excavators, mortar and machine gun positions, bunkers, and bomb factories.
The risk-averse nature of the airstrike campaign was highlighted last month by Brig. Gen. Thomas Weidley, chief of staff for what the military calls Combined Joint Task Force-Operation Inherent Resolve.
“The coalition continues to use air power responsibly,” Weidley said July 1. “Highly precise deliveries, detailed weaponeering, in-depth target development, collateral damage mitigation, and maximized effects on Daesh, are characteristics of coalition airstrike operation in Iraq and Syria.”
Daesh is another name for the Islamic State.
“The coalition targeting process minimizes collateral damage and maximizes precise effects on Daesh,” Weidley said earlier. “Air crews are making smart decisions and applying tactical patience every day.”
Other coalition spokesman have indicated that targeting has been limited to reaction strikes against operational groups of IS fighters. “When Daesh terrorists expose themselves and their equipment, we will strike them,” Col. Wayne Marotto said May 27.
The military website Long War Journal published a map showing 52 IS training camps and noted that some may no longer be operating because of the U.S.-led bombing campaign.
Bill Roggio, Long War Journal managing editor, said the Islamic State’s training camps are a direct threat to the region and U.S. national security.
“While the vast majority of trainees have been used to fight in local insurgencies, which should be viewed as a threat. Historically jihadist groups have selected a small number of fighters going through their camps to conduct attacks against the West. The Islamic State is most certainly following this model,” he said.
According the map, among the locations in Iraq and Syria where IS is operating training camps are Mosul, Raqqah, Nenewa, Kobane, Aleppo, Fallujah, and Baiji.
The group MEMRI obtained a video of an IS training camp in Nenewa Province, Iraq, dated Oct. 1, 2014.
The video shows a desert outpost with tan tents and around 100 fighters who take part in hand-to-hand combat exercises, weapons training, and religious indoctrination.
Aymenn Jawad Al-Tamimi, an analyst with the Middle East Forum, in June translated details of IS training purportedly obtained from a manual produced by a pro-IS operative in Mosul named Omar Fawaz.
Among those involved in ideological training for IS jihadists in Iraq is Bahraini cleric Turki Binali, who wrote an unofficial biography of IS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, Al-Tamimi stated in a blog post June 24.
According to a document thought to be written by Fawaz, training differs for native Iraqis and Syrians as opposed to foreign fighters, who generally are less experienced militarily than the regional trainees.
The document also reveals IS plans to export military manpower abroad, including Libya.
“Sessions for the muhajireen [foreign fighters] brothers last 90 days or more, and at the highest level deal with organization, determination, and intelligence operation, including training on heavy weaponry in addition to comprehensive Sharia sessions and multiple tests,” according to a translation of the document. “Sessions for the Ansar from the people of Iraq and al-Sham range between 30 to 50 days.”
The process begins with an application form and questionnaire regarding education, skills, viewpoints, and whether their backgrounds can be verified.
The training then includes physical fitness, martial arts practice, weapons training, and ideological indoctrination.
After a week of training, jihadists with special abilities are selected and placed in units. The units include special forces, air defense, sniper units, a “caliphate army,” an “army of adversity,” and administrative units for those capable of using electronic devices and accounting.
“The rest are distributed in fronts and camps after the end of the military camp training according to where they are needed,” the report said, noting that all graduates are tested in Sharia at the conclusion of their training.
The New York Times reported Tuesday that the Pentagon inspector general is investigating allegations that military officials doctored intelligence reports in an attempt to present more optimistic accounts of the U.S. military’s efforts in the conflict.
The probe was triggered by a DIA analyst who stated that Central Command officials were improperly rewriting intelligence assessments prepared for policy makers, including President Obama.
The Daily Beast reported Wednesday that senior military and intelligence officials inappropriately pressured U.S. terrorism analysts to alter estimates of the strength of the Islamic State to portray the group as weaker.
Central Command, on its website, stated that in the year since the Iraq operation began on Aug. 7, 2014, a total of 6,419 air strikes were carried out.
Targets damaged or destroyed include 119 tanks, 340 Humvees, 510 staging areas, 3,262 buildings, 2,577 fighting positions, 196 oil infrastructure targets, and 3,680 “other” targets not further identified.
Bron
Kampen niet aanvallen vanwege mogelijke "collateral damage"?
Maar targets in steden vernietigen mag wel?
[ Bericht 1% gewijzigd door #ANONIEM op 30-08-2015 19:10:34 ]
Dat is voor het eerst dat ze zich druk maken om collateral damage.
Op woensdag 24 sept. 2008 schreef Danny het volgende:
Dagonet doet onaardig tegen iedereen. Je bent dus helemaal niet zo bijzonder als je denkt...
Mijn grootste bijdrage aan de FP.
Dagonet doet onaardig tegen iedereen. Je bent dus helemaal niet zo bijzonder als je denkt...
Mijn grootste bijdrage aan de FP.
Een MO dat continu in brand staat is dan ook erg winstgevend voor de VS. En het houdt Europa op z'n tenen, iets waar de VS ook al jaren om vragen.
Waarom zou dat zijn?quote:Op zondag 30 augustus 2015 19:15 schreef J0kkebr0k het volgende:
Volgens mij willen de machthebbers binnen de coalitie IS helemaal niet slopen.
Oh, kunnen legio redenen zijn.quote:
Dit zou er o.a. eentje kunnen zijn:
The Company Getting Rich Off the ISIS War
For the Middle East, the growth of the self-proclaimed Islamic State has been a catastrophe. For one American firm, it’s been a gold mine.
The war against ISIS isn’t going so great, with the self-appointed terror group standing up to a year of U.S. airstrikes in Syria and Iraq.
But that hasn’t kept defense contractors from doing rather well amidst the fighting. Lockheed Martin has received orders for thousands of more Hellfire missiles. AM General is busy supplying Iraq with 160 American-built Humvee vehicles, while General Dynamics is selling the country millions of dollars worth of tank ammunition.
SOS International, a family-owned business whose corporate headquarters are located in New York City, is one of the biggest players on the ground in Iraq, employing the most Americans in the country after the U.S. Embassy. On the company’s board of advisors: former Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz—considered to be one of the architects of the invasion of Iraq—and Paul Butler, a former special assistant to Pentagon chief Donald Rumsfeld.
The company, which goes by “SOSi,” says on its website that the contracts it’s been awarded for work in Iraq in 2015 have a total value of more than $400 million. They include a $40 million contract to provide everything from meals to perimeter security to emergency fire and medical services at Iraq’s Besmaya Compound, one of the sites where U.S. troops are training Iraqi soldiers. The Army awarded SOSi a separate $100 million contract in late June for similar services at Camp Taji. The Pentagon expects that contract to last through June 2018.
A year after U.S. airstrikes began targeting the so-called Islamic State in Iraq, there are 3,500 U.S. troops deployed there, training and advising Iraqi troops. But a number that is not discussed is the growing number of contractors required to support these operations. According to the U.S. military, there are 6,300 contractors working in Iraq today, supporting U.S. operations. Separately, the State Department is seeking janitorial services, drivers, linguists, and security contractors to work at its Iraqi facilities.
While these numbers pale in comparison to the more than 163,000 working in Iraq at the peak of the Iraq War, they are steadily growing. And with the fight against ISIS expected to take several years, it also represents a growing opportunity for defense, security, and logistics contractors, especially as work in Afghanistan begins to dry up.
“It allows us to maintain the facade of no boots on the ground while at the same time growing our footprint,” said Laura Dickinson, a law professor at George Washington University whose recent work has focused on regulating private military contractors.
Today, Afghanistan still represents a booming business for civilian contractors. In the latest quarterly report from U.S. Central Command, which oversees military operations in the Middle East, there were 30,000 civilian contractors working in Afghanistan in April. But those numbers are steadily falling. For example, in April 2014, there were more than 60,000 contractors working there.
Meanwhile, from supporting weapons sales to the Iraqi government to providing base security, contractor work in Iraq is on the rise.
SOSi is also providing a handful of high-level advisors to work with the Iraqi Ministry of Defense and the Iraqi Kurdish regional government. In late June, the company won a $700,000 contract to provide a small group of security assistance mentors and advisors for one year. The contract could be extended for an additional four years for a total of $3.7 million.
The requirements for the job are posted on SOSi’s career site, and include “one year or more of experience working with Iraqi [Ministry of Defense] officials.”
One of the job’s duties is to “prepare and deliver briefings to senior military officials on the status of the Iraqi staff, systems, programs and transition progress.”
The company will provide one advisor to the Iraqi Kurdish regional government, and five to the Iraqi government in Baghdad, according to Frank Helmick, a retired lieutenant general who served three tours of duty in Iraq between 2003 and 2011 and is now vice president for Mission Solutions at SOSi.
“These positions are very important. They are not just translators,” Helmick said. “They are advising at the levels where decisions are made.”
For the most part, they are Iraqi-Americans with security clearances, he said.
During his second tour in Iraq between 2008 and 2009, Helmick was in charge of all the manning, training, and equipping of the Iraqi security forces, so today’s mission is a familiar one.
“I’ve been going back and forth to Iraq for the last two-plus years as a businessman, which is very, very different than going as a military guy, but a lot of the same people I worked with in uniform are still there today,” he said in an interview with The Daily Beast.
He acknowledged that contractors are playing a key supportive role in Iraq.
“Contractors thicken the U.S. presence,” Helmick said. “If soldiers are sent there to advise and train, they don’t have to send people to cook their food, wash their clothes or secure themselves. Contractors can do that. We allow the U.S. or coalition military to focus on their core competency.”
SOSi is not the only company that has been on contract to provide high-level advisors to the government in Iraq. ABM, also headquartered in New York, posted a job listing for a “Security Assistance Mentor and Advisor,” who would work directly with senior Iraqi counterterrorism officials.
The position entailed providing “direct assistance to the Prime Minister’s Counter Terrorism Advisor to lead and guide the development of institutional capabilities for the Iraqi Counter Terrorism Service in order to provide security and facilitate good governance,” according to the company’s job description, which has recently been taken down. A company spokesman said ABM is no longer on the contract.
But some other company will invariably fill the breach. From providing meals to strategic advice, contractors are built into today’s military operations to help defeat the Islamic State. The fact is, the U.S. can no longer go to war—or even on an advise and assist mission—without them.
“We’re resting a large part of the success of this mission on contractors,” said Sean McFate, a professor at the National Defense University and the author of The Modern Mercenary: Private Armies and What They Mean for World Order.
But the role of civilian contractors on the battlefield remains controversial, partly because waste, fraud and abuse became rampant in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last decade. The Commission on Wartime Contracting, a bipartisan review board created by Congress in 2008, estimated that between $31 billion and $60 billion was lost to contract waste and fraud in Iraq and Afghanistan.
And security contractors continue to face particular scrutiny after a series of abuses over the last several years. Particularly damaging to the industry’s reputation was the 2007 Nisour Square shooting when guards working for Blackwater fatally shot 17 civilians.
Because of these scandals, there is now increased oversight of civilian contractors at the national and international level, said Dickinson. For example, the Pentagon has made numerous internal changes to improve the way contractors are vetted and used.
Helmick said he’s watched the contractor scene in Iraq change from when he first visited in 2003 to today. For example, he says, the ratio of contractors to U.S. servicemembers is down to less than one to one, at least for SOSi. At the peak of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, contractors outnumbered U.S. troops. While SOSi may have lowered their ratio to remain competitive, based on the Pentagon’s own statistics, it appears contractors outnumber U.S. troops in Iraq today.
Today’s business environment is more competitive, Helmick said. “There are a lot of companies vying for this work.”
William Beaver, the editor-in-chief of DangerZoneJobs.com, said the market’s grown more competitive because there is a large pool of experienced contractors thanks to the last 14 years of war. There are also a large number of combat veterans who have left the military, but are looking for ways to work overseas again, he said.
This has led to a considerable drop in salaries, according to Beaver.
But one thing that hasn’t changed is the lack of transparency around these contracts. There is no central public database for finding out who’s doing this work, so it’s only possible to get a scattershot view, without much context, from searches on FedBizOps.com, the Pentagon’s daily contract announcements and various job boards.
For example, it is unclear whether any contractors are supporting the 935 U.S. and coalition military personnel as they vet and train moderate Syrian rebels.
What is known is that contractors are integral to the teams that operate surveillance drones and analyze the hours of video footage collected, providing the military with the information it needs to target Islamic State fighters on the battlefield in Syria and Iraq. While these contractors are not based overseas—and therefore not included in any official tallies—they are directly supporting the mission to defeat the Islamic State. )
From the very beginning, U.S. military commanders have warned that the war against the Islamic State will be a long one. SOSi’s contract for services at Camp Taji may be due to expire in 2018, but it seems certain that it and companies like it will continue to find business as this fight rages on.
Bron: http://www.thedailybeast.(...)of-the-isis-war.html
[ Bericht 0% gewijzigd door #ANONIEM op 30-08-2015 19:43:48 ]
IS is één van de grootste False Flags uit de geschiedenis. De VS krijgt al jaren weinig publieke steun om zich te mengen in oorlogsgebieden. Voornamelijk sinds de blamage in Irak, "the war on terror" is een prima dekmantel om gewoon door te gaan met de plannen die stammen uit de jaren '90. Met een beetje gezond verstand kan je toch inzien dat IS niet het doelwit is in het Midden-Oosten.
If you are ready to wake up, you are going to wake up.
If you're not you are going to stay pretending that you are just a poor little me.
If you're not you are going to stay pretending that you are just a poor little me.
Overigens spreekt het artikel in de OP de titel enigszins tegen.
quote:“The coalition has also taken out thousands of fighting positions, tanks, vehicles, bomb factories, and training camps,” he said. “We have also stuck their leadership, including most recently on Aug. 18 when a U.S. military airstrike removed Fadhil Ahmad al-Hayali, also known as Hajji Mutazz, the second in command of the terrorist group, from the battlefield.”
En heb je ook maar het minste aan argumentatie om die vrij idiote stelling te onderbouwen?quote:Op zondag 30 augustus 2015 19:55 schreef Izzy73 het volgende:
IS is één van de grootste False Flags uit de geschiedenis. De VS krijgt al jaren weinig publieke steun om zich te mengen in oorlogsgebieden. Voornamelijk sinds de blamage in Irak, "the war on terror" is een prima dekmantel om gewoon door te gaan met de plannen die stammen uit de jaren '90. Met een beetje gezond verstand kan je toch inzien dat IS niet het doelwit is in het Midden-Oosten.
Meer dan genoeg, maar dat is aan jou niet besteed. Slaap kindje slaap .....quote:
[..]
En heb je ook maar het minste aan argumentatie om die vrij idiote stelling te onderbouwen?
If you are ready to wake up, you are going to wake up.
If you're not you are going to stay pretending that you are just a poor little me.
If you're not you are going to stay pretending that you are just a poor little me.
Haha, je denkt dat de VS het goed voor heeft met het MO en de mensen daar vredig wil laten leven. Gekkie, Amerika zorgt voor Amerikanen. Alles wat een minimale bedreiging is en niet-amerikaans schieten ze zonder poespas aan gort. De Republikeinen willen een aardig groot land als Iran met 81 miljoen inwoners aanvallen omdat het een bedreiging zou vormen, terwijl het MO nu al op haar wenken schudt vanwege het vele geweld. Kom, laten we Iran ook nog in chaos storten. De grootste schurkenstaat van de 21ste eeuw. Alleen duizenden zware kernwapens houden zoiets afzijdig uit je land. Het is wat dat betreft goed dat Noord-Korea een machtig land als China als buur heeft anders was Uncle Sam al lang binnen gevallen. China is ook de reden dat het huidige regime van Noord-Korea nog bestaat aangezien het zich aan de zijde van Noord-Korea schaarde toen ze de oorlog dreigden te verliezen en zonder dat iemand het zag aankomen Mao Zedong zo'n 700.000 militairen naar het Koreaanse schiereiland stuurde, anders was het al in de jaren 50 gevallen. Tijdens die oorlog verloren 180.000 Chinese militairen het leven maar ze vochten praktisch in hun eentje de oorlog uit tegen de VS en een waslijst aan andere Westerse landen. Wat denk je dat de reden is dat 60 jaar later een wapenstilstand geldt tussen de twee korea's (draw/gelijkspel) en niet meer dan dat?
Niet te spreken over dat ze onder andere verantwoordelijk zijn voor de dood van een democratisch gekozen Chileense president omdat hij Amerikaanse bedrijven als AT&T benadeelde. Bijna alle grote conflicten na WOII daar zijn de VS de katalysator van. Smerig land. We zetten liever een meedogenloze regime op de troon die een puppet is dan een democratisch gekozen president die het volk dient.
[ Bericht 10% gewijzigd door galileo2020 op 30-08-2015 20:49:11 ]
Niet te spreken over dat ze onder andere verantwoordelijk zijn voor de dood van een democratisch gekozen Chileense president omdat hij Amerikaanse bedrijven als AT&T benadeelde. Bijna alle grote conflicten na WOII daar zijn de VS de katalysator van. Smerig land. We zetten liever een meedogenloze regime op de troon die een puppet is dan een democratisch gekozen president die het volk dient.
[ Bericht 10% gewijzigd door galileo2020 op 30-08-2015 20:49:11 ]
Het is controlled opposition idd. Trainingskampen in Turkije, Jordanië en het Arabisch schiereiland, wapens via dezelfde partijen maar vooral via Qatar. Waar die aanval op de Amerikaanse ambassade in Libië om te doen was trouwens. Dat was het hoofdkwartier voor het doorsluizen van wapens van Qatar naar Syrië. Dan dingen als dat ze duizenden gepantserde humvees in de schoot geworpen krijgen. Of de grote hoeveelheden TOW raketten die de VS rechtsreeks aan "gematigde rebellen" levert die dan prompt overlopen naar Is en Nusra. enz. enz.quote:
IS is één van de grootste False Flags uit de geschiedenis. De VS krijgt al jaren weinig publieke steun om zich te mengen in oorlogsgebieden. Voornamelijk sinds de blamage in Irak, "the war on terror" is een prima dekmantel om gewoon door te gaan met de plannen die stammen uit de jaren '90. Met een beetje gezond verstand kan je toch inzien dat IS niet het doelwit is in het Midden-Oosten.
Het hoofddoel is nog steeds Syrië te slopen. Mijn voorspelling is dat we daarna chaos en burgeroorlog oid in Libanon krijgen en daarna alsnog Iran. (en uiteindelijk Rusland)
Don't try and blame me for your games
Your games are death
My world is light, the angels fill my eyes
With every breath
Your games are death
My world is light, the angels fill my eyes
With every breath
Die kampen staat grotendeels onder leiding van de CIA.quote:Kampen niet aanvallen vanwege mogelijke "collateral damage"?
Maar targets in steden vernietigen mag wel?
En die willen niet gebarbequed worden
bivd kijkt met u mee.
Ik ken de BNW-wetten. Geen probleem verder. Geloof in waar je je goed bij voelt.quote:Op zondag 30 augustus 2015 20:14 schreef Izzy73 het volgende:
[..]
Meer dan genoeg, maar dat is aan jou niet besteed. Slaap kindje slaap .....
https://snowdenarchive.cj(...)tfZz-8-00&a=d&cl=CL2quote:
[..]
En heb je ook maar het minste aan argumentatie om die vrij idiote stelling te onderbouwen?
https://snowdenarchive.cj(...)tfZz-8-00&a=d&cl=CL1
bivd kijkt met u mee.
Omdat de bron je niet aanstaat is het meteen BNW?quote:
[..]
Gooi dat dan gewoon in BNW man... Scheelt zoveel nodeloos gelul...
Saoedi-Arabië speelt ook een grote rol in deze. Maar wat precies het hoofddoel is blijft moeilijk. Gas, olie, NAVO-belangen wie weet, Syrië speelt in ieder geval een sleutelrol bij de belangen van de VS.quote:
[..]
Het is controlled opposition idd. Trainingskampen in Turkije, Jordanië en het Arabisch schiereiland, wapens via dezelfde partijen maar vooral via Qatar. Waar die aanval op de Amerikaanse ambassade in Libië om te doen was trouwens. Dat was het hoofdkwartier voor het doorsluizen van wapens van Qatar naar Syrië. Dan dingen als dat ze duizenden gepantserde humvees in de schoot geworpen krijgen. Of de grote hoeveelheden TOW raketten die de VS rechtsreeks aan "gematigde rebellen" levert die dan prompt overlopen naar Is en Nusra. enz. enz.
Het hoofddoel is nog steeds Syrië te slopen. Mijn voorspelling is dat we daarna chaos en burgeroorlog oid in Libanon krijgen en daarna alsnog Iran. (en uiteindelijk Rusland)
Hoeveel bommen heeft de "Coalition of The Willing" inmiddels gepropt daar? Vele duizenden maar geen enkele op konvooien van IS die 100-en km's woestijnen doorkruisen en IS trainingskampen, de bommen zijn vooral gericht op de infrastructuur in Syrië en Irak. IS blijft immer gestaag oprukken. (zeggen ze
)
If you are ready to wake up, you are going to wake up.
If you're not you are going to stay pretending that you are just a poor little me.
If you're not you are going to stay pretending that you are just a poor little me.
|
|
