Saving Private Ryan waargebeurd?

Nee joh! D-Day en de invasie is allemaal verzonnen! Die hele oorlog volgens mij zelfs!

Ik weet iig wel dat Band of Brothers gebaseerd is op de boeken van Stephen E. Ambrose, hij heeft volgens mij ook geholpen met het scenario van deze film.

Ik heb trouwens gisteren na een bezoek aan de Media Markt in Zwolle deze DVD ook gescoord voor 9,99 (samen met de Matrix Revisited)

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Op woensdag 30 oktober 2002 03:02 schreef MrCaBLeGuY het volgende:
Damn wat is dat een goede film zeg, hij bestaat al sinds 1998 en veel over gehoord maar nog nooit gekeken. Toch maar ff gehuurd en gekeken, allemachtig wat goed en indringend zeg .. Ik vroeg me alleen nog even af of de film naar aanleiding van een echt gebeurd verhaal is of dit opgezet is ?

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`t is idd een erg goede film he?
het is gebaseerd op een waar gebeurd verhaal

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Op woensdag 30 oktober 2002 04:34 schreef BigWillyDerSuperSpender het volgende:
Nee joh! D-Day en de invasie is allemaal verzonnen! Die hele oorlog volgens mij zelfs!

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Ah, iemand in dit topic snapt het.

Shaving Ryan's Private is beter.

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Op woensdag 30 oktober 2002 12:03 schreef U-lerZzZ het volgende:
Shaving Ryan's Private is beter.

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Op woensdag 30 oktober 2002 12:03 schreef U-lerZzZ het volgende:
Shaving Ryan's Private is beter.

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Dit vraagt om een Lemming.

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Op woensdag 30 oktober 2002 12:04 schreef SignOTheTimes het volgende:

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Dit vraagt om een Lemming.

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Momentje. .

Gvd. Wordt hier nu net de naam van veranderd!

Het gegeven klopt (wordt vermeld in het boek D-Day van Ambrose).
Drie broers gedood in één week, de vierde wordt na de invasie door de Amerikanen uit Normandië geplukt. De overlevende zoon diende in één van de infanteriedivisies die als eerste landde, de 4e geloof ik.

Het verhaal hieromheen is fantasie.

check ook maar eens Into the Beach, de docu die bij de DVD zit, daar worden enkele oud-strijders geinterviewd. Tevens wordt een klein kijkje achter de schermen genomen, bv hoe de acteurs een paar weken op militair kamp zijn geweest om een beetje aan oorlogsleven te wennen.

The five Sullivan brothers, Albert, Francis, George, Joseph and Madison, were born in Waterloo,
Iowa, between 1914 and 1920. George and Francis enlisted in the Navy in 1937. Their three
younger brothers joined the service in early 1942. All five were assigned to the commissioning
crew of USS Juneau (CL-52) in February 1942. They remained with the ship through her Atlantic
operations and subsequent combat actions in the Guadalcanal Campaign. All five were lost when
the Juneau was sunk on November 13, 1942. President Franklin Roosevelt personally
to the Sullivans to inform them of the deaths of their sons.

Thomas and Alleta Sullivan, in spite of the intense pain of losing their five sons all at once, made
speaking appearances at war plants and ship yards in behalf of the war effort. Their daughter,
Genevive, often accompanied them, until she joined the WAVES on June 14, 1943. In April of that
year Mrs. Sullivan christened a new destroyer, U.S.S. The Sullivans, in San Francisco. This ship is
moored at Buffalo, New York as a memorial. Today there is a park and playground where the Sullivan
house once stood. To prevent a tragedy of this magnitude from happening again, Congress passed the
Sullivan Law, which would prevent brothers from serving on the same ship.

The story of the Sullivan brothers was the basis for the movie "Saving Private Ryan".

en hier 'n plaatje van de gebroeders Sullivan

http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Sullivans/IMAG0001.JPG

The true story was - according to our research, the Ryan character is based on Fritz Niland, who lost two brothers in Normandy and a third brother, who was M.I.A. in Burma, was presumed dead. The third brother was later found alive. Niland, (the real soldier) was dropped behind German lines as were many other paratroopers mis-dropped all over Normandy.

The military rule about sole surviving son's being allowed out of combat is true. It was enacted after the five Sullivan brothers were killed in 1942 when the U.S.S. Juneau was sunk in the Pacific. The rule of the surviving son is common to many armies, the American, the Canadian, the British and the Israeli.

http://www.valourandhorror.com/DB/BACK/Ryan.htm

The only real character in Saving Private Ryan was General George Marshall, Army Chief of Staff. He really did exist and was involved with Eisenhower during his time. The movie itself wasn't based on any stories, as said by Dreamworks. However, it is thought that the Niland brothers story had some influence on the story behind Saving Private Ryan because two Niland cousins and grandchildren were invited to the premiere. Some of the names used in the movie existed, but it was only a random pick by Robert Rodat, who wrote the movie, spotting family names on a Civil War memorial.

http://www.angelfire.com/movies/sprbarrypepper/moviefaq.html

from Encyclopedia Britannica: "The plot is inspired in part by the true story of Fritz Niland, one of four brothers from New York state who saw action during the war. Two Niland brothers were killed on D-Day, while another went missing in action in Burma and was presumed dead, although he actually survived. Fritz was located in Normandy by an Army chaplain, Reverend Francis Sampson, and taken out of the combat zone."

www.militaria.com: "Ryan is based on a 506th P.I.R. trooper ... who spent about 18 days behind German lines evading patrols with the help of local French civilians. He finally walked into US territory on his own. When he reported in he was told, "oh, we've been looking for you." and a Chaplain drove him down to the beach in a jeep. No rescue, no risking a group of men to save one, no bridge, and no bloody TIGER tanks either!"