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quote:Op zondag 28 juli 2013 12:30 schreef Lucky_Strike het volgende:
upload ze even op tinypic of imgur..SPOILER: veel foto'sOm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.Edit: helaas mensen, de foto's die het niet doen staan netjes in img tags maar ze doen het niet
je hebt een gebruikersnaam/wachtwoord nodig voor die site..
I know maar vorige week lukte het ook en nu doen twee het wel en de rest niet toch?quote:
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upload ze even op tinypic of imgur..
je hebt een gebruikersnaam/wachtwoord nodig voor die site..
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quote:Ik moest 13 inlogvensters wegklikken voor ik in dit topic kon komen. Kan je ze even weghalen?SPOILER: veel foto'sOm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.Edit: helaas mensen, de foto's die het niet doen staan netjes in img tags maar ze doen het niet
Edit: ik kan nu niet meer op de backers site komen, zou ik straf hebben?Op dinsdag 23 augustus 2011 23:18 schreef problematiQue het volgende:
Mensen die zomaar claimen dat A beter is dan B moet je gewoon negeren. Internetruis.
Done. Sorry!quote:
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Ik moest 13 inlogvensters wegklikken voor ik in dit topic kon komen. Kan je ze even weghalen?
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Project Update #51: On Editing, Updates, Rewards & More
Backer_whiteFor backers only, Posted by Rob Thomas Like
Hey gang,
The last week has been an intense one. As many of you know, I’ve agreed to act as the producer for a couple Veronica Mars books for Vintage Doubleday, that will continue where the movie ends. One of my goals is to get the first book into stores shortly after the movie comes out early in 2014.
What that means, of course, is that we now need to move fast on both the movie and the first novel.
As a result, I spent most of last week working with the editor and author outlining the novel each morning, and then editing the movie each afternoon and evening. I’ll share more about the novels in a future update, but for now, I can tell you that I’m really happy with the story for the first book. Also, while the books will pick up where the movie ends, the movie will be able to stand on its own. You won’t need to read the novels. (Want, yes. Need, no.)
Today, though, let’s talk about our movie, which is now three weeks into editing. For those of you who aren’t familiar with the editing process, let me take a moment to explain how it works.
The Editing Process
About a week after we wrapped production, I sat down and watched the Editor’s Cut of the movie, which is the first chance I get to see how all of the shots we’ve got come together into a full movie. Audiences often assume that editing doesn’t begin until production ends, but the truth is that editing starts immediately once we start shooting. Each morning, our editor Dan Gabbe received the dailies — untreated footage from the day before – and started putting them together in the correct order. Once we finished shooting and he added the final shots, we had our first watchable version of the movie.
We’re now three weeks into the process of editing the Director’s Cut. During this eight week phase, we make multiple passes through the entire movie, from beginning to end. For the first several passes, the goal is simply to get close to where we’re going. If a shot looks wrong, we might replace it with another take. Right now, we’re fixing shots that don’t work, rather than tweaking and perfecting shots that do. We don’t get hung up on individual moments.
During these early passes, we also don’t spend much time focusing on the sound. We’ll drop in placeholder music — old bits of the score from the show, music borrowed from other movies – so that we can start to get the general mood down. In a few places, we’ve also inserted a few needle drops — specific, existing songs for the soundtrack – that I’ve had in mind since I wrote the script. Mostly, we just need to put in music that helps the movie sound like we want it to sound, even though we’ll use different music for the final cut.
Toward the end of this phase, once we’re close to locked picture (that is, when we’ve got most of the shots selected), a composer would normally begin writing the new score for the movie. For those who remember the music from the series, you’ll be pleased to know that the show’s composer, Josh Kramon, will be composing the movie as well – and I'm pleased to know that he's already gotten started.
Now that you have an idea of how editing works, here’s where we are in the process:
For reference, the movie is divided into six reels, each currently lasting about 20 minutes, more or less. When I left to catch a plane back home to Austin last Friday night, we had just started digging into the final reel. During this pass through the movie, we're trying to get picture 90 percent of the way there. Then, in the next pass, we'll get into the super fine tuning, which is where an inordinate amount of the hard work happens.
But here’s the good news: I'm actually happy with how editing is going.
I'm a bit notorious for wanting to throw myself off a building when I'm watching rough cuts. This was true even during some of the best episodes we ever did of the show. So, I think it's a good sign that I'm already looking forward to screening it for our studio partners, even though that screening is still weeks away.
And with that, I’ll turn things over to Ivan, who I think has a lot of new details to share about SDCC videos, Kickstarter rewards, the backer site, and more.
Rob
Backer Website Updates
Greetings, gang! As many of you have noted, it’s been a while – a little over two weeks – since the last official Backer Update. But as many of you have also realized, the good news is that we’ve also been updating the Backers’ Website with new content almost every day.
Moving forward, our current plan is to send an official Backer Update from Rob every 1-2 weeks, depending on how much is happening, and to update the website at least a few times each week. We’ll still link to the highlights in these official updates, but if you can’t wait, you’ll find more – more often – over there.
In case you haven’t looked lately, here's some of what you’ll find waiting for you:
Week 3 in Photos
Video: The Official Panel @ Comic-Con
Video: The Fan Event @ Comic-Con
(We're leaving these videos as Backer Exclusives until the end of this week. Then we'll post them on YouTube as well, in case you want to share them.)
A few helpful hints:
Can’t login to the website? As always, remember: the website does not use your Kickstarter name and password. You will find the name and password you need at the end of Backer Update #46.)
Check out the captions! If you click on any photo on the Backers' Website, you’ll be able to view a larger – or full-screen – version, as well as a caption with more detail about what was going on.
Subscribe for email updates! If you don’t want to keep checking the website to find out when we’ve posted new content, use the SUBSCRIBE form on the right side of the Backers Website to get email after every site update. It looks like this:
Where are the Kickstarter Rewards?
For those of you still waiting on Kickstarter Rewards – and that’s most of you – we wanted to share a quick update on what’s happening, and when you can expect to receive the swag you’ve been waiting for.
SEASONS 1-3 ON DVD - SENT!
The DVDs for Seasons 1-3 were sent out last week! Some of you have already received them, but for those who haven’t, they should arrive within 7-10 days. (You should also have received an email with a tracking link for the shipment.) For international backers: if you requested a download code instead, we should have them out to you soon.
T-SHIRTS - EARLY OCTOBER (EST.)
Let’s be completely honest: we wanted to have t-shirts in your hands a month ago, and it didn’t happen, because our order for 80,000+ blank shirts has created unexpected supply issues. (Literally. We bought out the entire stock from the manufacturer, and are now waiting for them to make more.)
At the moment, our best guess is that we’ll be able to print the t-shirts in late September, and ship them in early October.
We hate that this has been delayed, and we’re doing the best we can to speed things up. We know most of you understand and are patient, and we appreciate it, but we still wish we could get them to you sooner. You’ll have them the moment we get our hands on them.
POSTERS - NEAR PREMIERE, EARLY 2014
We’re just getting to work on the official poster designs now. Once that’s done, we’ll need to print them. For those of you who pledged for signed posters, we’ll also need to get the whole cast back together to sign them! Our best guess is that you’ll receive these – signed and unsigned – sometime around when the movie premieres.
PERSONALIZED REWARDS - COMING SOON
If you're expecting a personalized reward, we've got more details. We’ll send you a separate Kickstarter message about these in just a moment.
PREMIERE SCREENINGS - DETAILS THIS FALL
We’re still focused on finishing the movie, so we haven’t started scheduling the premieres just yet. If your rewards include tickets to the Premieres and/or Afterparties, we’ll get in touch with you later this fall, once we have specific dates locked down.
iTunes Sale (USA) & Official Merchandise
Two last notes:
USA iTUNES PROMOTION
If you live in the United States, iTunes has a pretty sweet Veronica Mars promotion this week: you can get the (broadcast version of the) Pilot for free, and each of the three seasons in HD for just under $30/each. If your friends still don’t understand what you’re talking about, giving them a free download of the Pilot might help. Just saying.
OFFICIAL MERCHANDISE
We’re still working on plans for official Veronica Mars Merchandise, but if you can’t wait, a few older products have been re-released in the WBShop. We’ll have newer designs for you soon, and for those of you who asked: yes, we’ll do our best to make sure the new merch is available in time for the December holidays!
That’s it for this time. See you over on the Backers’ Website!
Ivan
Backer_whiteFor backers only, Posted by Rob Thomas Like
Hey gang,
The last week has been an intense one. As many of you know, I’ve agreed to act as the producer for a couple Veronica Mars books for Vintage Doubleday, that will continue where the movie ends. One of my goals is to get the first book into stores shortly after the movie comes out early in 2014.
What that means, of course, is that we now need to move fast on both the movie and the first novel.
As a result, I spent most of last week working with the editor and author outlining the novel each morning, and then editing the movie each afternoon and evening. I’ll share more about the novels in a future update, but for now, I can tell you that I’m really happy with the story for the first book. Also, while the books will pick up where the movie ends, the movie will be able to stand on its own. You won’t need to read the novels. (Want, yes. Need, no.)
Today, though, let’s talk about our movie, which is now three weeks into editing. For those of you who aren’t familiar with the editing process, let me take a moment to explain how it works.
The Editing Process
About a week after we wrapped production, I sat down and watched the Editor’s Cut of the movie, which is the first chance I get to see how all of the shots we’ve got come together into a full movie. Audiences often assume that editing doesn’t begin until production ends, but the truth is that editing starts immediately once we start shooting. Each morning, our editor Dan Gabbe received the dailies — untreated footage from the day before – and started putting them together in the correct order. Once we finished shooting and he added the final shots, we had our first watchable version of the movie.
We’re now three weeks into the process of editing the Director’s Cut. During this eight week phase, we make multiple passes through the entire movie, from beginning to end. For the first several passes, the goal is simply to get close to where we’re going. If a shot looks wrong, we might replace it with another take. Right now, we’re fixing shots that don’t work, rather than tweaking and perfecting shots that do. We don’t get hung up on individual moments.
During these early passes, we also don’t spend much time focusing on the sound. We’ll drop in placeholder music — old bits of the score from the show, music borrowed from other movies – so that we can start to get the general mood down. In a few places, we’ve also inserted a few needle drops — specific, existing songs for the soundtrack – that I’ve had in mind since I wrote the script. Mostly, we just need to put in music that helps the movie sound like we want it to sound, even though we’ll use different music for the final cut.
Toward the end of this phase, once we’re close to locked picture (that is, when we’ve got most of the shots selected), a composer would normally begin writing the new score for the movie. For those who remember the music from the series, you’ll be pleased to know that the show’s composer, Josh Kramon, will be composing the movie as well – and I'm pleased to know that he's already gotten started.
Now that you have an idea of how editing works, here’s where we are in the process:
For reference, the movie is divided into six reels, each currently lasting about 20 minutes, more or less. When I left to catch a plane back home to Austin last Friday night, we had just started digging into the final reel. During this pass through the movie, we're trying to get picture 90 percent of the way there. Then, in the next pass, we'll get into the super fine tuning, which is where an inordinate amount of the hard work happens.
But here’s the good news: I'm actually happy with how editing is going.
I'm a bit notorious for wanting to throw myself off a building when I'm watching rough cuts. This was true even during some of the best episodes we ever did of the show. So, I think it's a good sign that I'm already looking forward to screening it for our studio partners, even though that screening is still weeks away.
And with that, I’ll turn things over to Ivan, who I think has a lot of new details to share about SDCC videos, Kickstarter rewards, the backer site, and more.
Rob
Backer Website Updates
Greetings, gang! As many of you have noted, it’s been a while – a little over two weeks – since the last official Backer Update. But as many of you have also realized, the good news is that we’ve also been updating the Backers’ Website with new content almost every day.
Moving forward, our current plan is to send an official Backer Update from Rob every 1-2 weeks, depending on how much is happening, and to update the website at least a few times each week. We’ll still link to the highlights in these official updates, but if you can’t wait, you’ll find more – more often – over there.
In case you haven’t looked lately, here's some of what you’ll find waiting for you:
Week 3 in Photos
Video: The Official Panel @ Comic-Con
Video: The Fan Event @ Comic-Con
(We're leaving these videos as Backer Exclusives until the end of this week. Then we'll post them on YouTube as well, in case you want to share them.)
A few helpful hints:
Can’t login to the website? As always, remember: the website does not use your Kickstarter name and password. You will find the name and password you need at the end of Backer Update #46.)
Check out the captions! If you click on any photo on the Backers' Website, you’ll be able to view a larger – or full-screen – version, as well as a caption with more detail about what was going on.
Subscribe for email updates! If you don’t want to keep checking the website to find out when we’ve posted new content, use the SUBSCRIBE form on the right side of the Backers Website to get email after every site update. It looks like this:
Where are the Kickstarter Rewards?
For those of you still waiting on Kickstarter Rewards – and that’s most of you – we wanted to share a quick update on what’s happening, and when you can expect to receive the swag you’ve been waiting for.
SEASONS 1-3 ON DVD - SENT!
The DVDs for Seasons 1-3 were sent out last week! Some of you have already received them, but for those who haven’t, they should arrive within 7-10 days. (You should also have received an email with a tracking link for the shipment.) For international backers: if you requested a download code instead, we should have them out to you soon.
T-SHIRTS - EARLY OCTOBER (EST.)
Let’s be completely honest: we wanted to have t-shirts in your hands a month ago, and it didn’t happen, because our order for 80,000+ blank shirts has created unexpected supply issues. (Literally. We bought out the entire stock from the manufacturer, and are now waiting for them to make more.)
At the moment, our best guess is that we’ll be able to print the t-shirts in late September, and ship them in early October.
We hate that this has been delayed, and we’re doing the best we can to speed things up. We know most of you understand and are patient, and we appreciate it, but we still wish we could get them to you sooner. You’ll have them the moment we get our hands on them.
POSTERS - NEAR PREMIERE, EARLY 2014
We’re just getting to work on the official poster designs now. Once that’s done, we’ll need to print them. For those of you who pledged for signed posters, we’ll also need to get the whole cast back together to sign them! Our best guess is that you’ll receive these – signed and unsigned – sometime around when the movie premieres.
PERSONALIZED REWARDS - COMING SOON
If you're expecting a personalized reward, we've got more details. We’ll send you a separate Kickstarter message about these in just a moment.
PREMIERE SCREENINGS - DETAILS THIS FALL
We’re still focused on finishing the movie, so we haven’t started scheduling the premieres just yet. If your rewards include tickets to the Premieres and/or Afterparties, we’ll get in touch with you later this fall, once we have specific dates locked down.
iTunes Sale (USA) & Official Merchandise
Two last notes:
USA iTUNES PROMOTION
If you live in the United States, iTunes has a pretty sweet Veronica Mars promotion this week: you can get the (broadcast version of the) Pilot for free, and each of the three seasons in HD for just under $30/each. If your friends still don’t understand what you’re talking about, giving them a free download of the Pilot might help. Just saying.
OFFICIAL MERCHANDISE
We’re still working on plans for official Veronica Mars Merchandise, but if you can’t wait, a few older products have been re-released in the WBShop. We’ll have newer designs for you soon, and for those of you who asked: yes, we’ll do our best to make sure the new merch is available in time for the December holidays!
That’s it for this time. See you over on the Backers’ Website!
Ivan
Spoilers!
SPOILEROm spoilers te kunnen lezen moet je zijn ingelogd. Je moet je daarvoor eerst gratis Registreren. Ook kun je spoilers niet lezen als je een ban hebt.Dit zou zooo tof zijnquote:" [..Spoiler..] But there will be an opportunity for Veronica do to her thing again.” As in a sequel? A 10-episode Season 4 on Netflix? “I’d be lying if I didn’t say I didn’t think of those things,” admits Thomas. “I am hopeful it is the birth of [much more] Veronica Mars.”
Helemaal mee eens! Meer Veronica Mars is altijd win win! Mits het nog steeds van dezelfde kwaliteit is overigens 
quote:Kristen Bell Teases Mystery 'Veronica Mars' Cameo; Talks Future Of Franchise After Movie
The "Veronica Mars" movie is filled to the brim with stars, from its leading lady Kristen Bell to cameo appearances by Justin Long and Jamie Lee Curtis. But there's one "guest appearance" that made Bell pause.
"I would say, oh God, I don't know," Bell told The Huffington Post in a phone interview when asked about which cameo was her favorite. "You know what? I know who I’d say and I can't say that person because they're not released yet."
While Bell was promoting "The Lifeguard," she hinted there are more than a few surprises in store that fans don't know about. So far James Franco, Curtis, Long and Jerry O'Connell are among the list of confirmed stars joining the cast of the "Veronica Mars" movie.
"I would get killed if I did [reveal names], but there’s someone in the beginning of the movie -- and you'll know who I mean -- there’s someone in the first five minutes of the movie who I think is the coolest cameo ever."
Bell said she was floored by the person's involvement. "[O]ur whole set was in a fit, a tizzy, because this person was on set," Bell said. "There’s a certain niche that this person fills. And listen, there are a fair amount of people who will be unimpressed. But for me, you couldn't get better. If you’re kind of a nerdy brainiac in any sense of the word, you will love this person."
"Veronica Mars" is being brought back to life as a movie nearly seven years after the show was canceled. Series creator Rob Thomas turned to Kickstarter to fund the movie. With an initial goal of $2 million, the campaign raised nearly $6 million via crowd-funding.
After the film is released in early 2014, the story of Veronica Mars will be carried on in a two-book series. After that? Bell's mentioned the character's adventures could be carried on via other means, such as Netflix. However, nothing is planned yet.
"No steps have been taken to actually figure it out. I think we're going to wait to see how the movie does and wait to go from there," Bell said. Viewers will have a conclusion following the end of the movie, but Bell said fans will be left wanting more.
"[Thomas] doesn't have the ability to write a real conclusion or an ending," she said. (bron: Huffingtonpost)
ZOVEEL ZIN IN
Of hopelijk draait ie in den cinema....................
Komt m'n PUC mooi van pas ook
Komt m'n PUC mooi van pas ook
lekker faxen heel de dag echt genot
quote:
Ik ben een nerd en weet dat de film in ArriRAW 2,8K (ARRI Alexa digitale filmcamera's) is gefilmd en 2K is gemasterd
dus sorreh meho maar 4k kan neit grgr
lekker faxen heel de dag echt genot
Project Update #53: On T-Shirts & Test Screenings
For backers only Posted by Rob Thomas ♥ Like
Good news, gang:
T-shirts and stickers started shipping today!
We know it took a lot longer than we ever expected – and we appreciate all of your patience -- but all of the kinks have been worked out, and most of the shirts have now been printed. In fact, we've been printing between 5,000 - 10,000 shirts per day for the last week or so, and are still going -- and the first wave of shirts and stickers just went into the mail today.
We also know that a lot of you still have questions, so please read this carefully:
• Shirts started going in the mail today, October 16!
• We're able to mail about 6-8k shirts each day, so it'll take us about 10 days to get them all in the mail.
• As a result, some shirts will not go in the mail until as late as October 25.
• So, depending on where you live...
Your shirt should arrive sometime between October 18 and November 13.
This next part is important: please do not send questions about your shirt until at least November 13. Answering more questions would just slow us down from getting the remaining shirts in the mail, so:
Questions about shirts sent before November 13 will not be answered.
Around November 13th, we will send another Backer Update, and will include specific instructions for what to do if you haven't yet received your shirt.
IF YOU HAVE MOVED OR STILL NEED TO CHANGE YOUR ADDRESS, we're happy to help you change it for future rewards, but since shipping labels have already been printed, we can no longer change the address before the shirts go into the mail. If you've moved, please be sure to contact your local post office, and provide your forwarding address. If you do, your shirt should still find its way to you.
What about the movie?
Most of the work happening right now still takes place in the editing room, where Dan Gabbe (our editor) and I are sequestered. We have now exhausted most of the good lunch options near the editing facilities, but we're making great progress on the cut. In the most recent pass, we've been starting to replace more and more of the temp music with sections of Josh Kramon's final score.
Speaking of which: in the past month, we've gotten a lot of letters asking to hear more about Josh's approach to composing and recording the score. In a future update -- and on the Backers' Website -- we'll do our best to give you a closer look at his process, and he'll explain how the score evolves throughout the editing process.
For now, he sent along this shot of his studio, where the score is coming together:
In the past month, we've screened the film for a few trusted friends and colleagues, and after that, for our partners at Warner Bros. Showing work in progress tends to be nerve-wracking, but it's also essential: when you spend all of your time in front of an editing monitor, watching the same scenes over and over, it's hard to keep a fresh perspective on what you're watching. These screenings have been helping me get a better sense of which sections of the movie are working, and which still need a little more work.
Earlier today, we also held our first test audience screening. I wish we could have stacked the audience with our backers, but Warner Bros wants to see how the movie plays for a general audience before determining a marketing strategy. Is it a film just for the fans or could complete Veronica Mars virgins enjoy the movie? That's a large part of what the studio hopes to find out.
It's what I'm hoping to find out, too. Every day in the editing room, I'm faced with this predicament: keep it or lose it? There are moments I believe VM fans will really enjoy that I know newbies won't get, and I ask myself, "Do I keep that in? Does it slow down the movie for non-fans? Would fans hate me if I cut it?"
This screening should tell me a lot.
Also, here's the thing that always terrifies me about test screenings: the movie is far from finished. It hasn't been color-timed, so it's not as "pretty" as it'll be when it's completed. None of the visual effects are in, so the audience is looking at blank computer and phone screens, or green screens where, eventually, tigers will be mauling centurions in the background. (Okay, that may be an exaggeration.) There are lines of temp dialogue read by the editor where an actor is supposed to be speaking. Some of the score is temp. We haven't done foley for the movie, so things like foot steps and punches sound kind of out of sync or canned.
When I first moved out to Hollywood in my late 20s, I was an audience member at a test screening, and the person running the test warned us about all of this. He said, "the movie will look unfinished. Everything is temp. Music. Color. Sound. But please try to put that out of your head."
I couldn't do it. I kept getting taken out of the movie watching experience by the temp elements. I ripped that movie to shreds in my comment card. I didn't think they'd ever be able to fix that dog.
And that little movie turned out to be Aliens.*
Thanks to the advice I gave them on my comment card.
* Okay, that last part is not true. It was the Ted Danson-Mary Steenburgen indie Pontiac Moon, and it was lovely. Thanks to my comment card there's an entire zombie subplot that was trimmed from the movie. I think it was a good lift. You're welcome, America.
Veronica at the AFF
One last thing: if you happen to be attending the Austin Film Festival later this month, I'll be there on October 26, for a discussion about translating Veronica Mars from television to film. Joining me on stage will be Mr. Chris Lowell, who will also be at the Festival to show off his own directorial debut, a feature film called Beside Still Waters. Chris let me see it a couple of months ago, and he did a masterful job with it. That kid has a bright future.
If you're at the Festival, we'd love to meet you, so be sure to come say hello.
Rob
For backers only Posted by Rob Thomas ♥ Like
Good news, gang:
T-shirts and stickers started shipping today!
We know it took a lot longer than we ever expected – and we appreciate all of your patience -- but all of the kinks have been worked out, and most of the shirts have now been printed. In fact, we've been printing between 5,000 - 10,000 shirts per day for the last week or so, and are still going -- and the first wave of shirts and stickers just went into the mail today.
We also know that a lot of you still have questions, so please read this carefully:
• Shirts started going in the mail today, October 16!
• We're able to mail about 6-8k shirts each day, so it'll take us about 10 days to get them all in the mail.
• As a result, some shirts will not go in the mail until as late as October 25.
• So, depending on where you live...
Your shirt should arrive sometime between October 18 and November 13.
This next part is important: please do not send questions about your shirt until at least November 13. Answering more questions would just slow us down from getting the remaining shirts in the mail, so:
Questions about shirts sent before November 13 will not be answered.
Around November 13th, we will send another Backer Update, and will include specific instructions for what to do if you haven't yet received your shirt.
IF YOU HAVE MOVED OR STILL NEED TO CHANGE YOUR ADDRESS, we're happy to help you change it for future rewards, but since shipping labels have already been printed, we can no longer change the address before the shirts go into the mail. If you've moved, please be sure to contact your local post office, and provide your forwarding address. If you do, your shirt should still find its way to you.
What about the movie?
Most of the work happening right now still takes place in the editing room, where Dan Gabbe (our editor) and I are sequestered. We have now exhausted most of the good lunch options near the editing facilities, but we're making great progress on the cut. In the most recent pass, we've been starting to replace more and more of the temp music with sections of Josh Kramon's final score.
Speaking of which: in the past month, we've gotten a lot of letters asking to hear more about Josh's approach to composing and recording the score. In a future update -- and on the Backers' Website -- we'll do our best to give you a closer look at his process, and he'll explain how the score evolves throughout the editing process.
For now, he sent along this shot of his studio, where the score is coming together:
In the past month, we've screened the film for a few trusted friends and colleagues, and after that, for our partners at Warner Bros. Showing work in progress tends to be nerve-wracking, but it's also essential: when you spend all of your time in front of an editing monitor, watching the same scenes over and over, it's hard to keep a fresh perspective on what you're watching. These screenings have been helping me get a better sense of which sections of the movie are working, and which still need a little more work.
Earlier today, we also held our first test audience screening. I wish we could have stacked the audience with our backers, but Warner Bros wants to see how the movie plays for a general audience before determining a marketing strategy. Is it a film just for the fans or could complete Veronica Mars virgins enjoy the movie? That's a large part of what the studio hopes to find out.
It's what I'm hoping to find out, too. Every day in the editing room, I'm faced with this predicament: keep it or lose it? There are moments I believe VM fans will really enjoy that I know newbies won't get, and I ask myself, "Do I keep that in? Does it slow down the movie for non-fans? Would fans hate me if I cut it?"
This screening should tell me a lot.
Also, here's the thing that always terrifies me about test screenings: the movie is far from finished. It hasn't been color-timed, so it's not as "pretty" as it'll be when it's completed. None of the visual effects are in, so the audience is looking at blank computer and phone screens, or green screens where, eventually, tigers will be mauling centurions in the background. (Okay, that may be an exaggeration.) There are lines of temp dialogue read by the editor where an actor is supposed to be speaking. Some of the score is temp. We haven't done foley for the movie, so things like foot steps and punches sound kind of out of sync or canned.
When I first moved out to Hollywood in my late 20s, I was an audience member at a test screening, and the person running the test warned us about all of this. He said, "the movie will look unfinished. Everything is temp. Music. Color. Sound. But please try to put that out of your head."
I couldn't do it. I kept getting taken out of the movie watching experience by the temp elements. I ripped that movie to shreds in my comment card. I didn't think they'd ever be able to fix that dog.
And that little movie turned out to be Aliens.*
Thanks to the advice I gave them on my comment card.
* Okay, that last part is not true. It was the Ted Danson-Mary Steenburgen indie Pontiac Moon, and it was lovely. Thanks to my comment card there's an entire zombie subplot that was trimmed from the movie. I think it was a good lift. You're welcome, America.
Veronica at the AFF
One last thing: if you happen to be attending the Austin Film Festival later this month, I'll be there on October 26, for a discussion about translating Veronica Mars from television to film. Joining me on stage will be Mr. Chris Lowell, who will also be at the Festival to show off his own directorial debut, a feature film called Beside Still Waters. Chris let me see it a couple of months ago, and he did a masterful job with it. That kid has a bright future.
If you're at the Festival, we'd love to meet you, so be sure to come say hello.
Rob
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hij zit dus vooral met de vraag of hij de film vooral voor de fans goed wil laten zijn of voor de studio die een breder publiek wil trekken.
al bekend wanneer ie ongeveer uit gaat komen?
al bekend wanneer ie ongeveer uit gaat komen?
uhm, de fans hebben betaald toch? Daar moet ie toch vooral voor gemaakt worden zou ik zeggen.quote:
hij zit dus vooral met de vraag of hij de film vooral voor de fans goed wil laten zijn of voor de studio die een breder publiek wil trekken.
al bekend wanneer ie ongeveer uit gaat komen?
Dat WB de distributie doet, doet daar in mijn mening niks aan af.
lekker faxen heel de dag echt genot
je zou zeggen van wel maar:quote:Op donderdag 17 oktober 2013 12:43 schreef wolfrolf het volgende:
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uhm, de fans hebben betaald toch? Daar moet ie toch vooral voor gemaakt worden zou ik zeggen.
Dat WB de distributie doet, doet daar in mijn mening niks aan af.
De studio wil er natuurlijk weer zoveel mogelijk aan verdienen zonder er voor betaald te hebbenquote:Earlier today, we also held our first test audience screening. I wish we could have stacked the audience with our backers, but Warner Bros wants to see how the movie plays for a general audience before determining a marketing strategy. Is it a film just for the fans or could complete Veronica Mars virgins enjoy the movie? That's a large part of what the studio hopes to find out.
It's what I'm hoping to find out, too. Every day in the editing room, I'm faced with this predicament: keep it or lose it? There are moments I believe VM fans will really enjoy that I know newbies won't get, and I ask myself, "Do I keep that in? Does it slow down the movie for non-fans? Would fans hate me if I cut it?"
This screening should tell me a lot.
Hoe zit dat eigenlijk met die backers, delen die ook mee in de mogelijke winst?
Warner doet duidelijk niet aan liefdadigheid. Zelfs als het een fanfunded ding is durven ze zich ermee te bemoeien. Het is werkelijk genant, vuile graaiers.
lekker faxen heel de dag echt genot
Project Update #54: Screening Results. Also: new footage!
Backer_white For backers only Posted by Rob Thomas ♥ Like
Dear Backers,
I didn't want to keep you waiting a month for the next update, so I'm writing again now. Hopefully you won't mind. There are just two quick things to share this time, and I think you'll enjoy both of them.
How The Screening Went
First, a word about test screenings...
I don't know a TV writer who has ever enjoyed going to one. In fact, among writers, it's usually worse than just about anything you can name from that standard list of sucky things you just have to soldier through: getting a root canal (test screening is worse), hosting unwanted house guests (test screening is worse), facing a battery of rabies inoculations (test screening is worse).
In television, test screenings are done in a very specific way. Fifty people sit behind one-way mirrors and watch your new pilot while holding a dial in their hands, dialing up when they enjoy what they're seeing on screen, dialing down when they're not enjoying what they're seeing on screen. I am on the other side of the glass wondering why my Xanax hasn't kicked in yet. Invariably people dial down in sad scenes and dial up in happy scenes, even though that isn't really how it's supposed to work.
Afterwards, the audience testing company suggests that you remove all the sad scenes from your show.
(Secret tips for future TV writers: people dial up when they see dogs! People dial up when good looking people take off their shirts! These things may seem self-evident, but it took me way too long to understand this seemingly simple concept.)
So, it was with some degree of dread that I showed up for our test screening last Wednesday night. As I know I mentioned in the last update, I feel like people not "in the business" have a hard time seeing past things like temp score, missing visual effects, footage that hasn't been color-timed.
I was scared, y'all.
Turns out, I didn't need to be. The crowd reaction was everything I hoped for. People were laughing and gasping and cheering. As a TV writer, I rarely get to experience audience reaction. I could get used to that feeling. Our distribution partners at Warner Bros. were also very pleased by the feedback and excited about the movie. The scores made me happy to the point of unseemliness.
Since the movie was financed by you, the fans, the one bar that I felt like I had to hit was that VM fans must enjoy it. Coming out of the screening, I felt like we had achieved that. (Honestly, I wouldn't have allowed myself to hope for the very nice feedback we got.) The scores from the non-VM fans were also incredibly encouraging.
The constructive criticism was also tremendously helpful. We're diving back in, polishing up some sections, and doing our best to clear up some confusion in a couple of areas in the movie.
How The Screening Really Went
Okay, now that I've typed this all out, I'm thinking perhaps I've done a disservice to the movie in the expectations game. I know that if I hear all of these great things about a movie, and I go see it, and it's good, but it doesn't blow my mind like it does everyone else's, I'm disappointed. The opposite also holds true (which may explain why Bad Teacher was my favorite movie of 2011).
So, what I'm saying is, erase all that positive news about our test screening from your mind.
In fact, on second thought, it only went so-so.
We're now adding dogs and reshooting large sections with Logan and Keith with their shirts off.
Plus, a little something new to share.
In the last update, I also mentioned that Chris Lowell and I would be sitting down this afternoon at the Austin Film Festival for a little discussion about Veronica Mars, and the work involved in adapting a television series for a feature film. (I also mentioned that Chris will be screening a new movie that he directed, but if you don't believe me, head over to the Backers' Website -- he'll tell you about it himself.)
What I didn't mention, for fear that it would jinx our plans, is that we also decided to debut a little bit of new footage. And since it's your movie, I wanted to make sure you don't have to wait to see it.
We've edited the new footage together into a short featurette suitable for sharing with friends, loved ones, or enemies who happen to share your taste in pop culture, and included enough context that it'll make sense even if your friends never saw the show.
And while we were careful to avoid significant spoilers, this footage does reveal a few new details about what to expect in the film... and gives our cast a chance to weigh on the eternal Logan vs. Piz debate. Take a look.
http://vimeo.com/veronicamars/lovetriangle
We're feeling pretty good about how the film is coming together, but we'd love to know what you think. Sound off in the comments. We're still reading them, I promise.
Until next time, gang.
Rob
Backer_white For backers only Posted by Rob Thomas ♥ Like
Dear Backers,
I didn't want to keep you waiting a month for the next update, so I'm writing again now. Hopefully you won't mind. There are just two quick things to share this time, and I think you'll enjoy both of them.
How The Screening Went
First, a word about test screenings...
I don't know a TV writer who has ever enjoyed going to one. In fact, among writers, it's usually worse than just about anything you can name from that standard list of sucky things you just have to soldier through: getting a root canal (test screening is worse), hosting unwanted house guests (test screening is worse), facing a battery of rabies inoculations (test screening is worse).
In television, test screenings are done in a very specific way. Fifty people sit behind one-way mirrors and watch your new pilot while holding a dial in their hands, dialing up when they enjoy what they're seeing on screen, dialing down when they're not enjoying what they're seeing on screen. I am on the other side of the glass wondering why my Xanax hasn't kicked in yet. Invariably people dial down in sad scenes and dial up in happy scenes, even though that isn't really how it's supposed to work.
Afterwards, the audience testing company suggests that you remove all the sad scenes from your show.
(Secret tips for future TV writers: people dial up when they see dogs! People dial up when good looking people take off their shirts! These things may seem self-evident, but it took me way too long to understand this seemingly simple concept.)
So, it was with some degree of dread that I showed up for our test screening last Wednesday night. As I know I mentioned in the last update, I feel like people not "in the business" have a hard time seeing past things like temp score, missing visual effects, footage that hasn't been color-timed.
I was scared, y'all.
Turns out, I didn't need to be. The crowd reaction was everything I hoped for. People were laughing and gasping and cheering. As a TV writer, I rarely get to experience audience reaction. I could get used to that feeling. Our distribution partners at Warner Bros. were also very pleased by the feedback and excited about the movie. The scores made me happy to the point of unseemliness.
Since the movie was financed by you, the fans, the one bar that I felt like I had to hit was that VM fans must enjoy it. Coming out of the screening, I felt like we had achieved that. (Honestly, I wouldn't have allowed myself to hope for the very nice feedback we got.) The scores from the non-VM fans were also incredibly encouraging.
The constructive criticism was also tremendously helpful. We're diving back in, polishing up some sections, and doing our best to clear up some confusion in a couple of areas in the movie.
How The Screening Really Went
Okay, now that I've typed this all out, I'm thinking perhaps I've done a disservice to the movie in the expectations game. I know that if I hear all of these great things about a movie, and I go see it, and it's good, but it doesn't blow my mind like it does everyone else's, I'm disappointed. The opposite also holds true (which may explain why Bad Teacher was my favorite movie of 2011).
So, what I'm saying is, erase all that positive news about our test screening from your mind.
In fact, on second thought, it only went so-so.
We're now adding dogs and reshooting large sections with Logan and Keith with their shirts off.
Plus, a little something new to share.
In the last update, I also mentioned that Chris Lowell and I would be sitting down this afternoon at the Austin Film Festival for a little discussion about Veronica Mars, and the work involved in adapting a television series for a feature film. (I also mentioned that Chris will be screening a new movie that he directed, but if you don't believe me, head over to the Backers' Website -- he'll tell you about it himself.)
What I didn't mention, for fear that it would jinx our plans, is that we also decided to debut a little bit of new footage. And since it's your movie, I wanted to make sure you don't have to wait to see it.
We've edited the new footage together into a short featurette suitable for sharing with friends, loved ones, or enemies who happen to share your taste in pop culture, and included enough context that it'll make sense even if your friends never saw the show.
And while we were careful to avoid significant spoilers, this footage does reveal a few new details about what to expect in the film... and gives our cast a chance to weigh on the eternal Logan vs. Piz debate. Take a look.
http://vimeo.com/veronicamars/lovetriangle
We're feeling pretty good about how the film is coming together, but we'd love to know what you think. Sound off in the comments. We're still reading them, I promise.
Until next time, gang.
Rob
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