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'Noord-Korea verplaatst raket met groot bereik'

Noord-Korea heeft een raket met een 'aanzienlijk bereik' verplaatst naar de oostkust van het land. Dat heeft de Zuid-Koreaanse minister van defensie donderdag gezegd.

'Noord-Korea verplaatst raket met groot bereik' Fotoserie
Volgens Kim Kwan-jin kunnen de Verenigde Staten echter niet worden bereikt met de raket. Eerder dreigde Noord-Korea met een aanval op de VS.
Kim verwierp berichten in Japanse media dat de raket mogelijk een KN-08 is, een langeafstandsraket die de VS wel zou kunnen raken. Hij zei niet te weten waarom de raket is verplaatst, 'mogelijk voor tests of oefeningen'.
Het Zuid-Koreaanse leger heeft laten weten welke provocatie door Noord-Korea dan ook aan te kunnen.
Aanval
In een verklaring zei het Noord-Koreaanse leger donderdag dat het groen licht heeft voor een aanval op de Verenigde Staten. De Noord-Koreaanse militairen hebben toestemming om de 'Amerikaanse agressie' het hoofd te bieden met 'kleinere en lichtere kernwapens'.
Volgens analisten heeft Noord-Korea vermoedelijk geen langeafstandsraketten die een precisiebombardement kunnen uitvoeren. Sommigen vermoeden dat de langeafstandsraketten die vorig jaar tijdens een parade werden getoond nepraketten waren.
Situatie
"We weten dat Noord-Korea korte- en halflangeafstandsraketten heeft die de situatie op het Koreaanse schiereiland kunnen compliceren, en wellicht Japan kunnen bereiken, maar we hebben geen enkel bewijs gezien dat het langeafstandsraketten heeft waarmee de VS, Guam of Hawaï kunnen worden bereikt", zei Azië-kenner James Hardy onlangs.
Kim zei dat het Zuid-Koreaanse leger geen tekenen heeft waargenomen waaruit blijkt dat Noord-Korea zich voorbereidt op een grootschalig conflict.

Deze tekenen zouden de mobilisering van eenheden kunnen zijn, waaronder eenheden voor de aanvoer van voorraden, maar volgens het Zuid-Koreaanse leger is daarvan niets te merken. "Ik denk dat de kans op een grootschalige provocatie klein is", zei Kim.
Fabrieksterrein
Voor de tweede dag op rijd werd ook donderdag Zuid-Koreaanse medewerkers van een gezamenlijk fabrieksterrein de toegang ontzegd.
Zuid-Koreanen kunnen niet naar hun werk in het Kaesong-complex, net over de zwaarbewaakte grens met Noord-Korea.
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  Moderator zaterdag 6 april 2013 @ 00:29:47 #4
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Wat ik me afvraag. De bevolking in NK is ondervoed, in ZK zijn ze dat niet. Waar gaat al het geld naar toe?

Alle Noord koreaanse geld gaat naar het leger, en niemand kan het controleren.
Ik ben een man met een onverklaarbare fascinatie voor capuchons. Ze zijn mijn tweede huid—altijd om me heen, altijd vertrouwd. Ik draag ze niet alleen, ik lééf erin. Het voelt magisch als iemand er zachtjes aan trekt, een speels moment vol onverwachte connectie. En als mijn capuchon ergens blijft haken? Pure vreugde! Een klein avontuur in het alledaagse, alsof de wereld me even vasthoudt. Capuchons en ik? Een onafscheidelijk duo
  zaterdag 6 april 2013 @ 00:30:57 #5
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Wie zegt dat ze ondervoed zijn? Is er daar wel keiharde bewijs voor eigenlijk?
All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers. ~François Fénelon
  zaterdag 6 april 2013 @ 00:47:19 #6
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Wie zegt dat ze ondervoed zijn? Is er daar wel keiharde bewijs voor eigenlijk?
Aanvragen van voedselhulp door de trotse Noord-Koreaanse regering bij het duivelse Westen zelf.

Foto's van normale Noord-Koreanen buiten Pyongyang.

Ook leuk om eens te kijken: de zoektocht van VICE naar Noord-Koreaanse arbeiders in Rusland (op Youtube).
Minister: lt's not particularly silly, is it? I mean, the right leg isn't silly at all and the left leg merely does a forward aerial half turn every alternate step.
Mr Pudey: Yes, but I think that with Government backing I could make it very silly.
  Redactie Frontpage zaterdag 6 april 2013 @ 00:56:43 #7
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Zie dat het treurig verdraaide NOS-sensatiebericht al z'n eigen topic heeft gekregen? :')
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Wie zegt dat ze ondervoed zijn? Is er daar wel keiharde bewijs voor eigenlijk?
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  zaterdag 6 april 2013 @ 01:04:37 #9
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Wie zegt dat ze ondervoed zijn? Is er daar wel keiharde bewijs voor eigenlijk?
ondervoed, valt wel mee zo te zien.

  zaterdag 6 april 2013 @ 01:18:54 #10
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Zie dat het treurig verdraaide NOS-sensatiebericht al z'n eigen topic heeft gekregen? :')
Heb ik iets gemist, wat heeft Pakistan ermee te maken?
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Nog niks gebeurd :(
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  zaterdag 6 april 2013 @ 01:48:36 #12
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Noord-Koreaanse dictator zwaait met pistool

Kim Jong-un demonstreert op een videofilmpje dat er met hem niet valt te spotten. De Noord-Koreaanse dictator neemt deel aan een militaire training, waarbij hij met een pistool zwaait en de kogelinslagen checkt. Volgens kenners wordt er wantrouwend uitgekeken naar 15 april, de verjaardag van zijn grootvader én Korea-stichter Kim II Sung. Die dag gaat traditioneel gepaard met grote feesten, opstoten van nationalisme en soms zelfs militaire demonstraties.

Het provocerende filmpje verscheen op dezelfde dag dat Noord-Korea het ambassadepersoneel in Pyongyang de 'goede raad' gaf om te evacueren. 'Na 10 april kan de veiligheid van buitenlandse diplomaten niet meer gegarandeerd worden als het conflict escaleert', zo klonk het. De Europese ambassadeurs in het land zullen vandaag beslissen of ze daaraan gehoor geven.

De Britten namen de dreiging serieus en overwegen het reisadvies aan te passen. Van evacuaties is voorlopig echter nog geen sprake. Hetzelfde geldt voor Rusland, dat in nauw contact staat met China, Amerika, Japan en Zuid-Korea. 'We maken ons ernstige zorgen over de toenemende spanningen. Wij willen weten waarom Pyongyang alle ambassades wil sluiten', aldus de Russische minister van Buitenlandse Zaken Sergey Lavrov.
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  Redactie Frontpage zaterdag 6 april 2013 @ 10:11:19 #13
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PM Australië is pissig over dreigementen aangaande ambassades:

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Julia Gillard lashes North Korea embassies threat Bron
JULIA Gillard has accused North Korea of trying to exacerbate tensions in the region over its warning to nations with embassies in the rogue state to consider evacuating its diplomats.

The Prime Minister, speaking in Boao, China, said it was a continuation by North Korea of conduct that was unacceptable.

"I see that as another statement which is about trying to exacerbate tensions in the region, '' Ms Gillard said.

"What we have seen is a continuing set of provocative statements from North Korea designed to cause tension, cause concern in the region...

"This conduct is unacceptable and we condemn it and we condemn it absolutely.''

Australian does not have an embassy in North Korea.

Ms Gillard will raise the North Korean situation with the new Chinese President Xi Jinping when she meets him tomorrow.

China has supported United Nations Security Council resolutions against North Korea over its latest defiance of the international community.
China's geduld is langzamerhand op:

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Detecting Shift in Beijing, U.S. Makes Its Case on North Korea Bron
WASHINGTON The Obama administration, detecting what it sees as a shift in decades of Chinese support for North Korea, is pressuring Chinas new president, Xi Jinping, to crack down on the regime in Pyongyang or face a heightened American military presence in its region.

In a flurry of exchanges that included a recent phone call from President Obama to Mr. Xi, administration officials said, they have briefed the Chinese in detail about American plans to upgrade missile defenses and other steps to deter the increasingly belligerent threats made by North Koreas young leader, Kim Jong-un.

China, which has been deeply suspicious of the American desire to reassert itself in Asia, has not protested publicly or privately as the United States has deployed ships and warplanes to the Korean Peninsula. That silence, American officials say, attests to both Beijings mounting frustration with the North and the recognition that its reflexive support for Pyongyang could strain its ties with Washington.

The timing of this is important, Tom Donilon, Mr. Obamas national security adviser, said in an interview. It will be an important early exercise between the United States and China, early in the term of Xi Jinping and early in the second term of President Obama.

While administration officials cautioned that Mr. Xi has been in office for only a few weeks and that China has a history of frustrating the United States in its dealings with North Korea, Mr. Donilon said he believed that Chinas position was evolving.

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Toeristen in NK: niks aan het handje:

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Situation 'normal' in North Korea: tourist Bron
THE situation on the ground in North Korea appears normal and calm, tourists and guides say, despite high international tensions and Pyongyang warning diplomats to consider leaving.

With the Korean peninsula in crisis and Pyongyang threatening a nuclear strike against the US, North Korean authorities have told embassies they would be unable to guarantee their safety if a conflict breaks out.

But tourists are still visiting the largely isolated state, with several groups on board a flight back to Beijing on Saturday.

"We're glad to be back but we didn't feel frightened when we were there," said Tina Krabbe, from Denmark, who spent five days in the country.

"It didn't feel like there was much tension in the city. We were OK actually."

A 15-year-old from Hong Kong on a school trip said: "My mum thought a war was going to break out or something like that."

But he added: "What we saw was all peaceful. There was absolutely no conflict... there was no unrest."

Visitors said they had been able to watch BBC news in their foreigner-only hotels.

A man and woman with American accents, carrying hand luggage only and no souvenirs, declined to be interviewed and said they were not allowed to talk to the media.

Nicholas Bonner, founder of Koryo Tours, who has been organising trips to North Korea for 20 years and visited last week, said life was "carrying on as normal".

"It is certainly tense, but people are going on with their daily work and tourism is continuing and people have been very hospitable," he said.

"Everyone just hopes that it'll blow over."

Western tourism to North Korea remains small-scale, with the country's marginalised nature acting as a draw for some travellers, but is only possible as part of an organised tour with local escorts.
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En dat terwijl er geen Mc Donalds in Noord Korea is.
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En dat terwijl er geen Mc Donalds in Noord Korea is.
dat lukt ook wel met de kfc
  Redactie Frontpage zaterdag 6 april 2013 @ 10:34:25 #16
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Noord-Koreaanse legertop geeft Amerika de schuld (goh) van de huidige spanningen; experts vermoeden dat er weleens geen nukes, maar EMP's gebruikt zouden kunnen gaan worden:

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Former ambassador says long-range missile shift raises specter of EMP attack

WASHINGTON – As the North Korean government cautions staffers at British and other Western diplomatic missions that it can’t guarantee their safety after “April 10,” the North Korean General Staff is warning the United States again that it had “better ponder over the prevailing grave situation.”

The statement threatened to unleash “cutting-edge smaller, lighter and diversified nuclear strike means” against what the North Koreans believe are U.S. preparations to wage a nuclear war against them.

“The merciless operation of its revolutionary armed forces in this regard has been finally examined and ratified,” the General Staff statement said, indicating that in addition to the threat of a missile attack, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, or DPRK, may deploy its million-man army.

“The responsibility for this grave situation entirely rests with the U.S. administration and military warmongers keen to encroach upon the DPRK’s sovereignty and bring down its dignified social system with brigandish logic,” it said.

The General Staff announcement was referring to recent flights by nuclear-capable B-52s and B-2 bombers from the United States mainland and Guam. They were dispatched on practice bombing runs on targets in South Korea, just 50 miles from the Demilitarized Zone separating North Korea from South Korea.

The statement pointed to the practice flights that simulated “conditions of a nuclear strike at the DPRK,” along with formations of F-22 stealth jet fights which took off from Japan and Okinawa to deploy to Osan Air Force Base in South Korea “to watch for a chance to make a surprise strike.”

THIS is how an EMP event could bring the world’s remaining superpower to its knees. Read it in “A Nation Forsaken”.
As an indication of intelligence-gathering on the part of the North Korean General Staff, it also referred to the U.S. deployment of the Aegis destroyers USS John S. McCain and the USS Decatur, equipped with interceptor missiles and SBI-1, along with the introduction of the nuclear submarine, USS Cheyenne, into Korean waters.

The USS Cheyenne is capable of launching Tomahawk missiles from vertical launch tubes.

“The U.S. is now hurling latest nuclear war hardware into South Korea, pushing the situation on the Korean Peninsula to the brink of a war,” the statement said.

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  zaterdag 6 april 2013 @ 10:36:56 #17
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En dat terwijl er geen Mc Donalds in Noord Korea is.
Die gaan er wel komen hoor en ook walmarts
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Weet niet of dit al gepost is: een waarschuwing van een ervaringsdeskundige.

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Reflections of Fidel
The duty to avoid a war in Korea
(Taken from (CubaDebate)

A few days ago I mentioned the great challenges humanity is currently facing. Intelligent life emerged on our planet approximately 200,000 years ago, although new discoveries demonstrate something else.

This is not to confuse intelligent life with the existence of life which, from its elemental forms in our solar system, emerged millions of years ago.

A virtually infinite number of life forms exist. In the sophisticated work of the world’s most eminent scientists the idea has already been conceived of reproducing the sounds which followed the Big Bang, the great explosion which took place more than 13.7 billion years ago.

This introduction would be too extensive if it was not to explain the gravity of an event as unbelievable and absurd as the situation created in the Korean Peninsula, within a geographic area containing close to five billion of the seven billion persons currently inhabiting the planet.

This is about one of the most serious dangers of nuclear war since the October Crisis around Cuba in 1962, 50 years ago.

In 1950, a war was unleashed there [the Korean Peninsula] which cost millions of lives. It came barely five years after two atomic bombs were exploded over the defenseless cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki which, in a matter of seconds, killed and irradiated hundreds of thousands of people.

General Douglas MacArthur wanted to utilize atomic weapons against the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea. Not even Harry Truman allowed that.

It has been affirmed that the People’s Republic of China lost one million valiant soldiers in order to prevent the installation of an enemy army on that country’s border with its homeland. For its part, the Soviet army provided weapons, air support, technological and economic aid.

I had the honor of meeting Kim Il Sung, a historic figure, notably courageous and revolutionary.

If war breaks out there, the peoples of both parts of the Peninsula will be terribly sacrificed, without benefit to all or either of them. The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea was always friendly with Cuba, as Cuba has always been and will continue to be with her.

Now that the country has demonstrated its technical and scientific achievements, we remind her of her duties to the countries which have been her great friends, and it would be unjust to forget that such a war would particularly affect more than 70% of the population of the planet.

If a conflict of that nature should break out there, the government of Barack Obama in his second mandate would be buried in a deluge of images which would present him as the most sinister character in the history of the United States. The duty of avoiding war is also his and that of the people of the United States.

Fidel Castro Ruz

April 4, 2013

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  Redactie Frontpage zaterdag 6 april 2013 @ 10:59:05 #20
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Embassies staying put in North Korea despite tension Bron
SEOUL | Sat Apr 6, 2013 4:35am EDT

SEOUL (Reuters) - Staff at embassies in North Korea appeared to be remaining in place on Saturday despite an appeal by authorities in Pyongyang for diplomats to consider leaving because of heightened tension after weeks of bellicose exchanges.

North Korean authorities told diplomatic missions they could not guarantee their safety from next Wednesday - after declaring that conflict was inevitable amid joint U.S.-South Korean military exercises due to last until the end of the month.

Whatever the atmosphere in Pyongyang, the rain-soaked South Korean capital, Seoul, was calm. Traffic moved normally through the city centre, busy with Saturday shoppers.

South Korea's Yonhap news agency quoted a government official as saying diplomats were disregarding the suggestion they might leave the country.

"We don't believe there's any foreign mission about to leave Pyongyang," the unidentified official was quoted as saying. "Most foreign governments view the North Korean message as a way of ratcheting up tension on the Korean peninsula."

North Korea has been angry since new U.N. sanctions were imposed following its third nuclear weapons test in February. Its rage has apparently been compounded by joint U.S.-South Korean military exercises that began on March 1.

China's Xinhua news agency on Friday had quoted the North's Foreign Ministry as saying the issue was no longer whether but when a war would break out.

Most countries saw the appeal to the missions as little more than strident rhetoric after weeks of threatening to launch a nuclear strike on the United States and declarations of war against the South.

But Russia said it was "seriously studying" the request.

A South Korean government official expressed bewilderment.

"It's hard to define what is its real intention," said the official, who asked not to be identified. "But it might have intensified these threats to strengthen the regime internally or to respond to the international community."

The United Nations said its humanitarian workers remained active across North Korea. Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon, however, remained "deeply concerned" about tensions, heightened since the imposition of U.N. sanctions against the North for its third nuclear arms test last in February.

The appeal to diplomats followed news reports in the South that North Korea, under its 30-year-old leader Kim Jong-un, had moved two medium-range missiles to a location on its east coast. That prompted the White House to say that Washington would "not be surprised" if the North staged another missile test.

Kim Jong-un is the third member of his dynasty to rule North Korea. He took over in December 2011 after the death of his father, Kim Jong-il, who staged confrontations with South Korea and the United States throughout his 17-year rule.

North Korea has always condemned the exercises held by U.S. forces and their South Korean allies. But its comments have been especially vitriolic this year as the United States dispatched B-2 bombers from its home bases to stage mock runs.

"MADCAP NUCLEAR WAR"

North Korea's government daily newspaper said tension remained high because the United States was "waging madcap nuclear war maneuvers".

"This is aimed at igniting a nuclear war against it through a pre-emptive strike," the Minju Joson said in a commentary. "The prevailing situation proves that a new war, a nuclear war, is imminent on the peninsula."

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  Redactie Frontpage zaterdag 6 april 2013 @ 11:24:13 #21
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Treurig hilarisch taalgebruik in NK-persberichten:

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Youth of Songun Korea Will Display Heroic Spirit in Confrontation with U.S.: Youth League Spokesman
Pyongyang, April 5 (KCNA) -- The dear respected Marshal Kim Jong Un made a final decision for all-out action against the U.S. and advanced a new strategic line of simultaneously pushing forward the economic construction and the building of nuclear armed force at the March Plenary Meeting of the Central Committee of the Workers' Party of Korea. In this regard a spokesman for the Central Committee of the Kim Il Sung Socialist Youth League made public a statement Thursday.

Millions of Korean youth turned out as one in the sacred war for annihilating the enemy, true to the important decision made by the great man of Mt. Paektu, the statement said, and went on:

The youth vanguard, grown under the care of the peerlessly great men of Mt. Paektu, is ready to flatten even a mountain once the headquarters of the revolution issues an order. This is their spirit and proud tradition.

The Korean youth will sweep away those who hurt the dignity of the supreme leadership of the DPRK to the last man, fluttering the flag of the supreme commander, banner of victory and glory, and holding tight the arms for devotedly defending the leader.

They are waiting for the final order of the Supreme Command.
The U.S. imperialists and the south Korean puppet forces had better know that there are millions of the youth vanguard, human bullets and bombs replete with the spirit of annihilating the enemy, united close around the headquarters of the revolution in Songun Korea.

When they ignite a nuclear war at any cost, the Korean youth, shock brigade of the Supreme Commander, will clearly show the world what the real arms and war are like.

Those who provoke the just cause of the DPRK will meet only death.

The statement called on the south Korean young people, transparent in the sense of justice and ardent in patriotism, to vigorously turn out in the nationwide resistance against the anti-DPRK aggression moves of the U.S. and the puppet group of traitors that are bringing the dark clouds of a nuclear war to hang over the whole of Korea.
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  zaterdag 6 april 2013 @ 11:38:40 #24
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Ein-de-lijk. Die lui beginnen het door te krijgen. En het is lachen als niemand die dreigingen meer serieus neemt. Staat Kim mooi voor lul. De wereld ontwikkelt zich verder terwijl hij stampvoetend in het jaar 0 blijft steken.
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  zaterdag 6 april 2013 @ 11:41:40 #25
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Ein-de-lijk. Die lui beginnen het door te krijgen. En het is lachen als niemand die dreigingen meer serieus neemt. Staat Kim mooi voor lul. De wereld ontwikkelt zich verder terwijl hij stampvoetend in het jaar 0 blijft steken.
Als Kimmetje zo door gaat dan wil niemand hem meer wapens en munitie leveren zelfs de Russen en de Chinezen niet

Mijn gekke buurjochie zou ik ook geen mes geven

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