Palestina & Israël #87

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Clashes break out following protest rally held in wake of Friday terror attack leaving father, son dead. Hilltop Youth leaders pledge to stop further stone hurling in area; Rabbi Dov Lior: No innocents in war
Yair Altman
Published: 09.25.11, 19:52 / Israel News

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Clashes between settlers and Palestinians broke out Sunday following a rally commemorating the deaths of Asher Palmer and his infant son Yehonatan in Kiryat Arba last Friday.

Some 150 people held a protest rally in the scene of the terror attack prior to the victims' funeral. They marched towards Kiryat Arba and clashes broke out near the Beit Anoun village. The two sides began hurling stones at each other. IDF and police forces arrived at the scene to end the violence using crowd dispersal means.



During the rally, Rabbi Dov Lior called for a collective punishment to be carried out against the "rioters."

"We have murderous rioters surrounding us, according to the Torah, there is room for collective punishment and the IDF must carry out the punishment against the rioters. There are no innocents in a war," the rabbi said.

The city's Jewish spokesman Noam Arnon added: "I say this with a great deal of pain and sadness – there was an attempt to hide the truth. We know the effort put in here by the security forces and we cherish that, but we must say that this repulsive attempt to hide the truth was not the only one, this unthinkable thing was done without any clear motives."

Police initially claimed the car crash which killed the father and son was the result of an accident but later concluded that stones had been hurled at the vehicle, which caused it to overturn. Settler leaders leveled harsh criticism at the police for what they referred to as a "cover up."

Asher Palmer's brother Shmuel addressed the failure of the police to declare the incident a terror attack from the beginning. "The police are a problematic organization as is the IDF. And I say this as a reservist," he said. He added that he could understand talk of revenge. "A Jew was murdered here because he was a Jew, and this cannot be ignored. We shall prevail at the end, the only question is how. We are here to stay."

Meir Bartler, one of the Hilltop Youth leaders, said that his men will not stay silent. "The hurling of stones must be stopped. If the IDF can't do it, then we'll do it and we know how. We shall deploy our men along the line. Anyone with a licensed weapon will arrive and we'll equip others with batons and protective gear."


Funeral procession (Photo: Noam Moskovitz)

The police said in response: "The initial investigation indicated the incident was the result of a self-inflicted car accident causing the car to crash into a pile of rocks. Evidence found inside the vehicle led the police to perform an external autopsy at the State and the family's approval.


"The autopsy indicated that the driver was hit in the head by a blunt object which led us to believe that a rock may have been hurled at the car. The family was informed of the progress in the case. The investigation is still ongoing and the family will be provided with all the findings when it concludes. "

The IDF Spokesperson's Office said in response: "A Central Command check held Friday indicated no stones were hurled at the car from the side of the road. Further findings then suggested the possibility that stones had been hurled from a passing vehicle. The issue is being checked."

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Op zondag 25 september 2011 19:53 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:
"Helaas berusten de posts van C_N niet op de werkelijkheid"

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Op zondag 25 september 2011 04:00 schreef rja het volgende:

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Door Hamas ?

Dan lieg je als je barst !

Die willen Israël vernietigen.

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Op zondag 25 september 2011 19:58 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:

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Hamas: We’ll recognize Israel within '67 borders

En ze hebben dat al meerdere keren aangegeven oa. ook via het Arab Peace Initiative etc.

Nou ben je drie reacties lang niet op het punt ingegaan (dat Israel en de Joodse staat niet hetzelfde zijn) sleept er telkens iets nieuws bij en maakt, wanneer je uitgeluld bent, mij uiteindelijk dan maar snel uit voor leugenaar.

Met mensen als jou in hun gelederen is het geen wonder dat Israel handenvol geld aan PR moet uitgeven.

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Op zondag 25 september 2011 20:04 schreef Aloulou het volgende:
PA: Settlers uproot 400 olive trees near Nablus

NABLUS (Ma'an) -- Dozens of Israeli settlers on Sunday uprooted over 400 Palestinian-owned olive trees near Nablus in the northern West Bank, a Palestinian Authority official said.

Settlement Affairs official Ghassan Doughlas said settlers attacked fields between Qusra and Duma villages south of Nablus.

On Friday, Israeli forces killed a Palestinian man, Issam Kamal Odeh, 33, during clashes sparked by settlers who entered Qusra.

The incident comes amid a surge in settler violence in the northern district, including village raids, attacks on Palestinians and their property and the vandalism of two mosques in recent weeks.

In Qusra on Sept. 5, settlers torched a mosque and spray-painted anti-Arab slogans and the Star of David.

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Op zondag 25 september 2011 20:04 schreef Aloulou het volgende:
PA: Settlers uproot 400 olive trees near Nablus

NABLUS (Ma'an) -- Dozens of Israeli settlers on Sunday uprooted over 400 Palestinian-owned olive trees near Nablus in the northern West Bank, a Palestinian Authority official said.

Settlement Affairs official Ghassan Doughlas said settlers attacked fields between Qusra and Duma villages south of Nablus.

On Friday, Israeli forces killed a Palestinian man, Issam Kamal Odeh, 33, during clashes sparked by settlers who entered Qusra.

The incident comes amid a surge in settler violence in the northern district, including village raids, attacks on Palestinians and their property and the vandalism of two mosques in recent weeks.

In Qusra on Sept. 5, settlers torched a mosque and spray-painted anti-Arab slogans and the Star of David.

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Op zondag 25 september 2011 20:04 schreef Aloulou het volgende:
PA: Settlers uproot 400 olive trees near Nablus

NABLUS (Ma'an) -- Dozens of Israeli settlers on Sunday uprooted over 400 Palestinian-owned olive trees near Nablus in the northern West Bank, a Palestinian Authority official said.

Settlement Affairs official Ghassan Doughlas said settlers attacked fields between Qusra and Duma villages south of Nablus.

On Friday, Israeli forces killed a Palestinian man, Issam Kamal Odeh, 33, during clashes sparked by settlers who entered Qusra.

The incident comes amid a surge in settler violence in the northern district, including village raids, attacks on Palestinians and their property and the vandalism of two mosques in recent weeks.

In Qusra on Sept. 5, settlers torched a mosque and spray-painted anti-Arab slogans and the Star of David.

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Op zondag 25 september 2011 20:00 schreef C_N het volgende:

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2006 en het is nooit onder tekent. ze praaten met 2 gezichten roepen thuis het tegenovergestelde .roepen is wat anders dan er 100%achter staan .maar idd voor de publieke opinie is het leuk .

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Op zondag 25 september 2011 20:05 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:

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Ho ho, doe eens kijken naar de vorige topic.

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Netanyahu expresses 'disappointment' with Abbas' UN speech
In an interview with NBC's 'Meet the Press', Netanyahu talks about Mahmoud Abbas' consistent refusal to 'accept Israel's existence', the 'insatiable crocodile' of Islamism, and America's continual support for Israel.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu expressed his “disappointment” on Sunday with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas’ speech to the UN General Assembly, during an interview with NBC’s long-running news show “Meet the Press”.

Netanyahu, who sat down for an interview with host David Gregory, stated both that he was “trying to move forward” the peace process through negotiations, and that the “core of the conflict” lies with the Palestinians’ persistent “refusal to accept Israel’s existence.”

When asked about threats facing Israel, Netanyahu answered that he is responsible for the “fate of the one and only Jewish state", and he seeks to "erect the wall against insatiable crocodile of Islamism, before it devours us for breakfast.”

Netanyahu further rebuffed several Republican presidential contenders’ claims that Obama is “throwing Israel under the bus” by saying that America supports Israel in “unprecedented ways” and that this support is “expressed by any person who happens to be in the White House".

Netanyahu also commented on former President Bill Clinton's claim that the Israeli Prime Minister is not interested in peace, telling Gregory that Clinton's successor, President George W. Bush, knows well “how the Palestinian leaders moved away from the Israeli prime ministers' proposals. They didn't come, and now they go to the UN".

Haaretz

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Netanyahu further rebuffed several Republican presidential contenders’ claims that Obama is “throwing Israel under the bus” by saying that America supports Israel in “unprecedented ways” and that this support is “expressed by any person who happens to be in the White House".

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Op zondag 25 september 2011 20:11 schreef Aloulou het volgende:

Netanyahu stated both that he was “trying to move forward” the peace process through negotiations

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Op zondag 25 september 2011 20:14 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:

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Ik vond dat niet neutraal.

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Op zondag 25 september 2011 20:14 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:

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Ik vond dat niet neutraal.

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Op zondag 25 september 2011 20:14 schreef Drifter__ het volgende:

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Ik vond dat niet neutraal.