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  Moderator maandag 17 oktober 2011 @ 12:23:27 #276
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At least 2 more vents opened up

At least two more vents have opened up on the from what I can gather on the pictures and the reports from Canary Islands. So far all the new vents are under the ocean and at depth of no less then 150 meters. So seeing them directly is quite hard for the moment. There are continues deep earthquakes under El Hierro volcano, but that suggests that new magma is flowing into El Hierro volcano.

During the weekend floating magma bombs where (or some type of magma, I do not have the exact word for it in English at the moment) floating on the ocean. But this means that at least one of the vents that started erupting in the beginning is getting close to break the surface of the ocean. If the eruption continues in that vent for a little while longer. If it gets above the surface of the ocean, it is going to form a island and a lava eruption is going to start once the ocean cannot get any more into the crater.

There is a risk of new fissures in El Hierro opening up without warning. From what I am estimating, the area that this can happen has expanded about ~5 km or so from my original estimate that I made in few blog posts ago. The risk of new fissure opening up on land is going to remain high while this eruption is taking place. But this might well be a period of eruption activity for El Hierro. It is impossible to know for how long it is going to last, it could be weeks or it could be months and up to years of activity.
  maandag 17 oktober 2011 @ 13:04:17 #277
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last earthquake at 10:10 h, 1.6 magnitude, 17 km depth.

Hier dus - bij de groene pijl

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  Moderator maandag 17 oktober 2011 @ 13:26:01 #278
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Dus niet verder noordelijk? Nog niet.. :P
  maandag 17 oktober 2011 @ 13:42:11 #279
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Dan zoek maar in google maps : 27.8342 -18.0724
Die is van gister ochtend 17-10-2011
2:13:49 - event ID 1105779

is iets noorderlijker
Niet alles wordt in de media gebracht.

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  Moderator maandag 17 oktober 2011 @ 14:52:47 #280
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El Hierro Eruption Continues, but not Likely to Form new Island
The eruption off the southern coast of El Hierro in the Canary Islands looks to be subsiding and from the sound of it, the focus of the activity is slowly migrating into shallower water. However, so far all the activity has remained submarine, producing an impressive discoloration of the ocean as tephra and volcanic gases are released from the vents. Check out this image of the eruption seen on October 16 (courtesy of Dave Mayer):



In the image, you can clearly see the plume of the eruption spreading westward from the main vent area, which is just off the southern tip of the island. It looks like the main fissure might be 2-3 km in length and is close to on strike with the rift axis for the main El Hierro edifice. Ramon Ortiz, coordinator of a government scientific team, said that if/when the eruption reaches shallower water, we should expect to see the surface water start to steam, followed by explosions of steam and magma and finally the emergence of an island. If you want to see how that might look, just look at images of the 2009 eruption of Hunga Tonga Hunga Ha’apai in Tonga to see how a submarine eruption in shallow water behaves, producing “rooster tails” tens to hundreds of meters tall. There is already dark pumice spotted floating on the surface of the ocean (see below) along the southern coast of the island as well (and these clasts generated a lot of discussion amongst the geotweeps).

As for the residents of La Restiga and the southwestern coast of Hierro, the local government allowed them to return to their homes on Saturday, however on Monday, many residents are still wary of returning. It does seem like there is a lot of confusion amongst the residents of exactly what the nature of the eruption will be as many have voiced concerned about returning when the volcano is “about to explode”. This activity is not likely to produce a large, destruction event like the 1902 Pelee pyroclastic flow, but should be more like Surtsey or, when it reaches land, like the 1971 eruption at La Palma (although possibly larger in volume), which were tourist attractions rather than death. The activity will be monitored closely, including the installation of hydrophones in the harbor to listen for new explosions on the seafloor (note: some of this graphic is a little scientifically dubious, like the area labeled “magma”) if the eruption continues to propagate towards land. However, the eruption, even if it comes closer to land, is not a major hazard to people on the island beyond the potential for bombs/ash to be thrown on land or, if the eruption makes it to land, lava flows. The Spanish government has closed the port at La Restiga due to the volcanic debris and air traffic is restricted over the eruption and there is also concern about how the eruption might effect marine reserves around Hierro. If an new island does emerge from this eruption and has any permanence, there will be the question of exactly whose island it is and what to name it – but Nemesio Pérez of the Instituto Vulcanológico de Canarias seems to think that there isn’t enough magma to produce any new island off of El Hierro.



One thing that is remarkable about this eruption is how the towns on the south coast of El Hierro are nestled between all these volcanic vents. I saw an image of the discolored sea surface from the eruption with a hamlet on the coast in the background. I see at least ten small scoria/cinder cones in the area around the town (see below), all evidence of the volcanic legacy (and recent legacy at that to preserve these cones) along the southern coast of El Hierro.
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Q is assumed bubbles indicate where q is the eruptive mouth # ElHierro
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  maandag 17 oktober 2011 @ 15:44:49 #282
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Google translate doet het niet altijd even goed.
Titel aangepast zodat het klopt met het verhaal.

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There is not enough magma to form a new island El Hierro

MADRID, 17 Oct. (EUROPE PRESS) -

The scientific coordinator of the Institute of the Canary Islands Volcano, Nemesio Perez, stated that in order to form another island next to El Hierro should have an eruption of magma "incredible", which, as explained, "so far is not happening ".

In an interview on National Radio, as reported by Europa Press, Perez emphasized that the eruptions that occur or have occurred in the past in El Hierro have been low index fossils. It has also indicated that "when magma instead of going by land out near the coast to 50 to 20 feet deep, will increase your explosive" because the interaction with water causes it to break and be more explosive .

However, he pointed out that the submarine fissure eruption is about 2.5 kilometers south of La Restinga and the emission occurs at about 150 meters deep. Therefore, he noted that "the most obvious manifestations of this rash are those rocks or floating material as a result of gas content that exists in the lava."

On the other hand, has indicated that "the hydrophones that have been possible to detect which in turn allow the eviction" and noted that "volcano monitoring is based on monitoring of seismic activity, deformation and gas" and with that information "could detect any change in volcanic activity."

Finally, he stressed that "the recovery of the marine system could be quite rapid, especially the smaller species."

tijd: 13:55 h
magnitude: 2,5
diepte: 16 KM

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Heb de webcam gevonden! Nu nog wachten dat ze online gaan.

http://www.livestream.com/apoyoaelhierro
  Moderator maandag 17 oktober 2011 @ 18:21:50 #284
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17/10/2011 @ 17:16 : Another earthquake has been detected to the north coast of Tenerife, off the coast of Buenavista and Garachico, details as follows:

Event number : 1105909
Date : 17/10/2011
Time : 14:42:06
Latitude : 28.4617
Longitude : -16.8283
Magnitude : 1.8
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Toch wel opvallend dat de bevingen meer naar het westen zijn.
Als het niet met een hamer te repareren is, is het een elektrisch probleem.
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0s.gif Op maandag 17 oktober 2011 18:21 schreef Frutsel het volgende:
17/10/2011 @ 17:16 : Another earthquake has been detected to the north coast of Tenerife, off the coast of Buenavista and Garachico
Garachico.. mooi dorpje, vorig jaar geweest. Is een eeuw of 3 geleden al eens van de kaart geveegd doordat de Teide uitgebarsten is. Er staat een standbeeld om dit te herdenken. Ouch.
Acquisitie n.a.v. deze post wordt niet op prijs gesteld.
Don't you see going to heaven is just in the thought that you might?
As an on-line radio program grows longer, the probability of a German song approaches 1.
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0s.gif Op maandag 17 oktober 2011 09:04 schreef Keiichi het volgende:

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Laten we nieuwe namen verzinnen voor het eiland *O*
Als ik dat filmpje zo zie, hoort het gewoon bij El Hierro.
Het is een zij"vent" van de El Hierro vulkaan.

Als het maar lang genoeg duurt, zou het in theorie kunnen versmelten met El Hierro en wordt El Hierro iets langer :)
[b] Op zondag 14 november 2010 18:11 schreef liesje1979 het volgende:[/b]
Zo is daar Godshand, met zijn sarcastische toon,
Die regelmatig een topic voorziet van spot en hoon.
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17/10/2011 @ 20:31
Reports of stream vapours up to 100m above the sea surface and geyser type effects on the sea surface would suggest the eruption is now very close to the sea surface.

Nieuw filmpje.
  maandag 17 oktober 2011 @ 23:28:25 #289
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17/10/2011 @ 22:25 – The strong sulphur smell and the change in the direction of the tide has delayed the residents of La Restinga returning to their homes. The El Roquillo tunnel opening will go ahead as planned.
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El Hierro Volcanolgists report new island may be formed

Further to this weekends continued Volcanic eruptions off the southth-weatern coast of the island of El Hierro, and meetings held on Sunday afternoon by the PEVOLCA committee, scientists have ressumed their analysis of the activity.

The Oceanographic research ship Profesor Ignacio Lozano has left port early this morning to monitor the eruption area, in particular investigating the numerous fish killed in vacinity of the 'stain' and collecting gas and pummice samples brought to the surface.

Whilst many residents of the evacuated village of la restinga have slowly begun to return to their properties, many have chosen to remain away from home due to fears of further volcanic activity. The authorities have not ruled out that a further evacuation may be necessary at just 7 or 8 hours notice.

Volcanologists from the CSIC (Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Científicas) have also concluded that if the activity continues for a further 2 weeks then the magma production coul result in a new island being formed just 2km off the coast of la Restinga. form a new small island 2 km out of the present El Hierro coast if the eruption continues like it does today.


Research tems have ruled out the possibility that any such 'island' would be connected to El Hierro.
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  dinsdag 18 oktober 2011 @ 09:19:59 #290
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  dinsdag 18 oktober 2011 @ 10:00:00 #291
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18/10/2011 @ 08:35 – There have been 3 earthquakes registered this morning (Tuesday 18th October 2011) around the island of El Hierro, all measuring over 2 degrees on the Richter scale.

0/2011 @ 08:50 – The continuous tremors detected on the island of El Hierro seem to have decreased in intensity, this is the graph from this morning so far.

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El Hierro Volcano 'entering a new phase'

Volcanologists on El Hierro beleive that the Volcano moved into a new phase on Momnday afternoon following signs of a number of volcanic tremors, which could indicate that the processis moving faster than originally predicted.

The Sulfur stain coming from the eruption in the Atlantic to the south of the island of sulfur is almost bigger than the island itself, and yesterday saw an increased number of bubbles rising to the surface.

Scientists predict that if things continue at the same rate huge columns of smoke may be produced, reaching some 500 feet, after high pressure steam and gas is released from the seabed, followed by explosions caused by magma at 1,200 degrees coming onto contact with seawater on the ocean floor.
The Professor Lozano research vessel of the Canary Institute of Marine Sciences (ICCM) returned to port on El Hierro late yesterday to review data, but it became clear that the lava still contains a high concentration of gases after lava rocks collected were found to break easily due to a large number of bubbles in them.

The decision made following Sunday's PEVOLCA meeting, to allow residents of la restinga to return to their homes after evacuation last week, has now been postponed until later today.

Scientists are continuing to collect samples of pyroclastic formations, fish, and water characteristics such as temperature, salinity, pH, chlorophyll, turbidity, dissolved oxygen, gases and nutrients to monitor changes in the eruption process.

The exact nature of what is happening underneath the island remains unknown for the time being, which has lead to speculation that a new formation, or 'island' may grow from the magma production 2km offshore in the Atlantic.

Towards the end of the short video clip you can see the bubbles being produced rising to the surface.
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18/10/2011 @ 11:10 The El Roquillo tunnel has been re-opened today, but only for heavy loads and emergency services.

18/10/2011 @ 12:04 Units are being moved into the town of La Restinga to monitor the quality of the air in the town.


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Klinkt een beetje als stilte voor de storm? Hoop het niet voor de bewoners :(
  dinsdag 18 oktober 2011 @ 14:24:33 #293
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Het lijkt er op dat de seismische trillingen meer en meer verzwaken.
(plaatje wordt heledag door bijgewerkt.)

En de beving van 11:25
magnitude: 2.1
diepte: 23 KM
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18/10/2011 @ 13:21 The Canarian Government is offering to pay rent for the people and families that do not want to return to La Restinga. It has been reported that people have been left with no money, no home and sleeping in their cars.
bevingen ook meer en meer ten noorden van Frontera


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  dinsdag 18 oktober 2011 @ 14:54:10 #294
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bevingen ook meer en meer ten noorden van Frontera
Viel mij ook al op.
Magma onderweg naar la Palma?
http://www.ign.es/ign/head/volcaSenalesAnterioresDia.do?nombreFichero=EHIG_2011-10-18&ver=s&estacion=EHIG&Anio=2011&Mes=10&Dia=18&tipo=1
Jammer dat de registraties van dit eiland al 2 dagen niet meer werken.....
Crazy as Always...met vleugels natuurlijk..;-0
  dinsdag 18 oktober 2011 @ 15:13:47 #295
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De vulkaan lijkt "Relaxed"


This image was produced this morning (Tuesday) and then ceased activity. Gelmert Finol
Sergio Gutierrez, El Pinar (18.10.2011. 13:20 pm)
The area of ​​eruption has dawned calmer. At least, that the signs seem to indicate less intense than days ago that at this time can be seen in the area of ​​Los Carilo, about three miles from La Restinga and the epicenter of information these days.

According to sources consulted by AVCAN DAILY HIERRO, the decline of the tremor signal may be due to several reasons. On the one hand, the activity has ceased magna closing its output abroad, which could raise the pressure and therefore increase, again, the seismicity on the island.

It may also simply mean that the eruption has ceased, the magma is cooled in the crack, like a dam and leaving only residual seismic activity would decline.

Finally, the third possible scenario could be that the system stops cavitate or flutter, ie the area or the point where depressurization occurs is more than just size, so do not pass the magma forced by that point. AVCAN view of one form or another possibility, "would be great on curved or straight devil taking as the starting energies the stopping point of tremor".

However, it will take to the explanation of the scientists who are working on the island of El Hierro.
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  FOK!-Schrikkelbaas dinsdag 18 oktober 2011 @ 15:42:48 #297
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  dinsdag 18 oktober 2011 @ 20:12:46 #299
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Ziet er echt groen uit voor de kust van Hierro
http://www.flickr.com/photos/62723732@N08/6257404217/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/62723732@N08/6257933164/

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The Prevolca does not allow residents of La Restinga go home

The residents of the town of El Hierro La Restinga can not return home permanently, as announced by the Director General of Security and Emergency of the Canary Islands, Juan Manuel Santana and the president of the Cabildo de El Hierro , Alpidio Armas , after the last meeting held by the scientific committee Prevolca this afternoon.


Santana explained that, although the volcano eruptive activity has declined in recent hours and that the air quality in La Restinga no problems of toxicity recorded recently boosted currents by emission spot submarine to the coast by that "we must be attentive to the wind" and an increased number of tests.

Also, forward a reinforced security and controlled access area, which will increase the time that those affected can go to their homes. Weapons acknowledged the situation "embarrassing" that plagues the economy resulting from the eruption of El Hierro underwater, in reference to the fisheries sector, among others.

The director of the National Geographic Institute (IGN), Maria Jose Blanco attended the event, said that so far there has been no columns of steam and that the decreased activity could mean that the mouth of the volcano "could be closing." However, he noted that it is a hypothesis, since it is not ruled out a rash on the mainland.

White said that depends on the political representatives, and not IGN, allowing residents access to La Restinga.


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  woensdag 19 oktober 2011 @ 11:14:26 #300
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Scientists needed over 48 hours whether the disappearance of the bubbles is symptomatic of the end of the eruptive process or not

President of the Canary Islands, Paulino Rivero, advanced in an interview in 'breakfasts TVE that scientists who study the phenomena of El Hierro euruptivo hope to offer a response to recent symptoms "in 48 hours." Since yesterday there is no bubbling in the sea and the intensity of the tremor has decreased.

These two phenomena could be symptoms of a "disappearance of the process or the emergence of a new point of eruption in another area," which could be on the ground.
Rivero said the inability of residents of La Restinga can not return permanently to their homes, due to security measures at the inability to determine the causes of the current phenomenon and its consequences. "It's logical uncertainty felt by the neighbors," he said, but "the priority is the safety of citizens."
The president argued that the Pevolca canary "is working perfectly" and that all measures being taken by authorities are based on the recommendations of scientists. He moved that "today you may decide to relax some," as the eviction of the residents of La Restinga or passage in the tunnel restringuido The Roquille.
Oftewel - over 2 dagen gaan de vulcanologen iets zinnigs zeggen of de uitbarsting echt is afgelopen of dat er ergens anders een uitbarsting plaats vind.

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19/10/2011 @ 08:00 It all seems to have gone quieter on the El Hierro eruption, the bubbling seen previously has stopped and the registered continuous tremors have decreased in intensity. Residents of the coastal town of La Restinga are only allowed to return to their homes during the day, and for a limited period of time. The El Roquillo tunnel remains open only for commercial and emergency vehicles.
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