In welk land is de islam verboden?

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Ja, maar ze proberen die beste brave Afrikaantjes echt niet aan AIDS te helpen door ze te vertellen geen condooms te gebruiken...

Tikkie kortzichtig.

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Op zondag 30 juni 2002 14:42 schreef hicham het volgende:

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En dat noem je haat prediken

Zelfverdediging

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Op zondag 30 juni 2002 14:36 schreef F-side het volgende:

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Juist wel man.

Bestudeer je geschiedenisboek eens.

Dan had je geweten dat de joden 2000 jaar gelden zijn wegjejaagd door de romeinen en de palestijnen waar nu israel en palestina ligt.

Daarom hebben zij dat land nu kuist ook daar gekregen van de engelsen

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Jah,laten we dan maar de hele wereld bevolking laten verhuizen naarw aar ze 2000 jaar geleden woonden.Maar als daar de oorsprong van de Joden lagen dan zijn ze toch eigenlijk Arabieren?

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Op zondag 30 juni 2002 14:45 schreef Kogando het volgende:

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Moslims willen hun geloof uitbreiden. Zoniet goedschiks dan wel kwaadschiks.

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Zoiets bedoel je?

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Dat was wat ik bedoelde met die vage grens. De ene moslim vind het al veel sneller dan de ander dat zijn geloof in gevaar is. Zeker als je wereldwijd gaat kijken als moslim, dan heb je altijd wel een punt waar je kan zien dat de islam als geloof in gevaar is.

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Op zondag 30 juni 2002 14:51 schreef hicham het volgende:

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Er is geen dwang in de godsdienst. Voorzeker, het juiste pad is van dwaling onderscheiden; derhalve, hij die de duivel verloochent en in Allah gelooft, heeft een sterk houvast gegrepen, dat onbreekbaar is. Allah is Alhorend, Alwetend. (Koran 2:256)

Zoiets bedoel je?
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Nee, je had het over haat prediken

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zoiets...

Maar voor degenen die denken dat het christendom nu overal ter wereld een vredige godsdienst is:

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NLFT - The Christian Al-Qaeda

For seven-year-old Shreema, 13th Jan 2002 was a special Sunday. All through the year, the girl had awaited the dawn of this day. For, that was the day one goes out and purchases new clothes, new toys and sweets, as the next day would be Makar Sankranthi -- the harvest festival celebrated throughout India. The Singicherra Bazar was bustling with activity. Like Shreema's family there were many people looking forward to a happy Makar Sankranthi. But they didn't realise that they were violating a fatwa issued by the Baptist Church-created Christian Al-Qaeda, the National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT). Nor did they know that they would pay with their lives for celebrating a heathen festival of their motherland.

Shreema would never again celebrate Makar Sankranthi. She died, along with sixteen others, on the spot as 13 terrorists of the NLFT encircled the people shopping for the festival and fired indiscriminately1. The soldiers of Christ have done again in Tripura what they have been doing for centuries to heathens throughout the world.

The Baptist Church of Tripura is not just the ideological mentor of the NLFT; it also supplies the NLFT with arms and ammunition for the soldiers of the holy crusade2. Never mind that the holy war involves killing infants and torching the huts of 'heathen Hindoos'. The NLFT does all these to bring to the infidels the peace and love of Christ. So, when Nagmanlal Halam, secretary of the Noapara Baptist Church in Tripura, was arrested by the Tripura police he had rather curious tools for evangelisation, which included along with the gospel 50 gelatin sticks, 5 kg of potassium and 2 kg of sulphur and other ingredients for making explosives. Mr. Halam confessed that his activities for the saving the heathen souls involved buying and supplying explosives to the NLFT over the past two years. Another church official, Jatna Koloi, who was also arrested, admitted that he received training in guerrilla warfare at an NLFT base last year. Surely, gelatin and AK-47s have more efficiency when it comes to bringing the light of the only revealed truth to the disbelievers suffering in 'spiritual darkness'. Those who are in doubt can check it out with another great light-bearer of the other 'only true book', Osama bin Laden (that is, when and if the prophet of terror is captured).

The Baptist Church of Tripura was initially set up by proselytizers from New Zealand 60 years ago. Despite their efforts, even until 1980, only a few thousand people in Tripura had converted to Christianity. Then the Church used one of its most efficient and time-tested weapons of evangelisation -- creating racial and ethnic divide among the people. In the aftermath of one of the worst ethnic riots, engineered by the Church3, the NLFT was born -- but not without the midwife role of the Baptist Church. From its very inception, the NLFT has been advancing the cause of Christianity through armed persuasion. Every trace of indigenous culture is being eliminated through violent means. Every resisting group is made to bleed its way to extinction.

The case of Jamatya tribals provides a telling example. These tribals have strong spiritual leaders and a network of social service organisations headed by their religious leaders. These indigenous sects are neither exclusive nor expansionist. The Baptist Church has always failed miserably in its conversion efforts with regard to this well-knit community. Hence, it is no wonder that the NLFT has made Jamatya institutions and their religious leaders the targets of their attacks. In the August of 2000, religious leaders of the Jamatya community like Jaulushmoni Jamatya and Shanti Kumar Tripura were killed by the NLFT, and Jamatya families were uprooted from their homelands and made refugees. The death threats issued by the NLFT to the inmates of these institutions have already forced the closure of 11 Jamatya institutions like schools and orphanages, set up by the slain religious leaders in various parts of Tripura4. Interestingly, these tribals are not close-minded fanatics. For one thing, they do not mind teaching the theory of evolution in their schools.

The greatest challenge to the Bible inspired mission of the NLFT comes from the Sangh Parivar's Banbasi Kalyan Kendra. The dedicated life workers of RSS have started empowering the tribals by running many educational institutions which while empowering them through imparting secular technical education also retain their tribal cultural and spiritual identity. Rather than making them disown their roots, the Kendra made the tribals feel proud of their culture. It even conducts national level tribal sports festivals. If the NLFT is to carve out a kingdom for Christ out of the secular republic of India, it has to make sure that the Kendra activities are stopped at all costs. In July 2000, armed NLFT militants torched a residential school and students hostel run by the Seva Mission in the remote Ananda Bazar area of North Tripura5. They had also taken hostage four RSS life workers. These RSS workers were all in their sixties. The crime committed by these old men was that they had dared to run educational institutions for tribals while preserving the tribals' culture. Later, all four were killed by the NLFT.

The NLFT has been an active partner of the Baptist Church in winning converts to the Christian creed. They have killed tribal priests to threaten communities and effect mass conversions. But those tactics have obviously backfired. In 2001 alone, the NLFT killed more than 20 Hindus who refused to 'accept the love of Christ'. They also torched to death a Hindu family sleeping in a hut6. In 2001, community chiefs and religious heads of 19 tribes formed the 'Tribal Culture Protection Committee' to counter the threat posed by the NLFT7. Despite the NLFT taking all possible steps to enforce conversions, the conversions are still slow. Frustrated, the NLFT has now begun an all out war against Hindu tribals. They have issued fatwas against infidel activities. These fatwas prohibit people from celebrating festivals like Durga Pooja and Makar Sankranthi, listening to Indian music, watching Indian TV channels and films, and prohibit women from wearing bangles or sporting bindis, etc. Just a year before the NLFT started all these atrocities in India, the Southern Baptist Church of the United States of America had given a clarion call to bring the light of the gospel to “millions of Hindus and Jews lost in the darkness” of their religions8.

Shreema, the seven-year-old girl from Tripura, died with bullets pumped into her tender body. Her crime was that she violated the Christian fatwa which prohibited her from celebrating an Indian festival. She was not just a victim of barbaric terrorism but she is also a martyr for Indian culture, a culture that has preserved thousands of tribal customs from barbaric persecution. Yet, she will not make it to the glossy covers of the weekly magazines of English speaking Indian media. Unsubstantiated, fabricated stories of Hindu fundamentalists (an oxymoron) killing Christian priests have been making their headlines. However, these fabrications have their use. They do help in the covering up of such acts of Christian love like killing in cold blood a seven-year-old girl or burning a family to death.

References:

1. 16 shot dead by NLFT in Tripura – PTI, January 13, 2002.
2. Church backing Tripura rebels – BBC, April 18, 2000.
3. India's North-East Resurgence: Ethnicity, Insurgency and Governance, Development by B.G. Vargheese, 1996, p.175.
4. Militants raid Hindu Ashram – The Telegraph, December 5, 2000.
5. NLFT curb on Hindu institutions – The Telegraph, September 14, 2000.
6. Three killed by Tripura rebels – BBC, April 14, 2000.
7. Tribals unite against conversions in Tripura, Syed Zarir Hussain, www.rediff.com/news/2001/aug/02trip.htm
8. Southern Baptists target Hindus, Julia Lieblich, The Associated Press, October 21, 1999.

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Op zondag 30 juni 2002 14:30 schreef Dlocks het volgende:

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Maar je komt wel eens in Islamitische landen? Weleens de vele kerken in bijvoorbeeld Turkije beken?

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Op zondag 30 juni 2002 15:09 schreef F-side het volgende:

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pff

kan je het effe kort samenvatten

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Langer samengevat:
In het noord-oosten van India zijn groepen terroristen actief, zoals de NLFT, die met steun van buitenlandse kerken hindoes en stammen met geweld proberen te bekeren tot het christendom.