MO Midden-Oosten
Bespreek hier de actuele situatie omtrent het Midden-Oosten.
AJE
Reuters news agency has reported that Libyan pro-democracy fighters hoped to begin their first independent oil shipment on Tuesday. The tanker Equator, which can carry 1 million barrels of crude, was due to arrive at the east Libyan port of Marsa el Hariga.
The pro-democracy leadership says Qatar agreed to market oil from east Libyan fields no longer under Gaddafi's control after the Gulf state recognized the revolutionary council in Benghazi as Libya's legitimate government.
Italy, a major investor in Libyan oil, also sided with the rebels on Monday, promising them weapons and demanding that Gaddafi and his family, who enjoyed warm ties with Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, leave Libya.
Reuters news agency has reported that Libyan pro-democracy fighters hoped to begin their first independent oil shipment on Tuesday. The tanker Equator, which can carry 1 million barrels of crude, was due to arrive at the east Libyan port of Marsa el Hariga.
The pro-democracy leadership says Qatar agreed to market oil from east Libyan fields no longer under Gaddafi's control after the Gulf state recognized the revolutionary council in Benghazi as Libya's legitimate government.
Italy, a major investor in Libyan oil, also sided with the rebels on Monday, promising them weapons and demanding that Gaddafi and his family, who enjoyed warm ties with Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, leave Libya.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
Telegraph
11.07 More on this morning's Libyan airstrikes (see 10.25). Nato struck some 18 miles east of the kel oil port, which has been the scene of fierce fighting over the past week.
Two government pick-up trucks heading for rebel positions were destroyed, although the soldiers inside appeared to escape unhurt, according to reports.
11.07 More on this morning's Libyan airstrikes (see 10.25). Nato struck some 18 miles east of the kel oil port, which has been the scene of fierce fighting over the past week.
Two government pick-up trucks heading for rebel positions were destroyed, although the soldiers inside appeared to escape unhurt, according to reports.
~Cheer up, the worst is yet to come.~
thnx voor de link !quote:Op dinsdag 5 april 2011 00:53 schreef svann het volgende:
Mooie toespraak van Younis.
Ik heb een artikel van de New York Times gevonden over voorstel van de zoons Gaddafi.
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Lees hier het hele artikel, erg informatief.
Ook pagina 2 is de moeite waard.
hoezo adhd ?
Ik heb Hem niet uit vrees voor de hel noch uit liefde voor het paradijs gediend, want dan zou ik als de slechte huurling zijn geweest; ik heb hem veeleer gediend in liefde tot Hem en in verlangen naar Hem.
-Rabia Al-Basri
-Rabia Al-Basri
op het eind van het interview (video) op de vraag dat veel mensen denken dat het regime zal vallen ;quote:Op dinsdag 5 april 2011 11:55 schreef yavanna het volgende:
Met kort video interview met Saif ( daar is 'ie weer ) op de site.
Libya: Colonel Muammar Gaddafi 'must remain in power'
The Libyan government has said it is open to political reform, but Muammar Gaddafi must stay in power to avoid a Somalia- or Iraq-style power vacuum.
Spokesman Moussa Ibrahim described Colonel Gaddafi as a "unifying figure", and insisted his forces only targeted armed rebels, not civilians.
Libyan state TV has showed video of Col Gaddafi rallying supporters in Tripoli.
Meanwhile, his son told the BBC that Foreign Minister Moussa Koussa had not betrayed Libya by leaving for the UK.
Saif al-Islam Gaddafi told the BBC's world affairs editor John Simpson that Mr Koussa had travelled to Britain for health reasons and was being pressured into making allegations about Libya's government in an effort to secure immunity from prosecution.
Mr Gaddafi said Moussa Koussa was allowed to leave Libya, and denied that he knew incriminating details about the Lockerbie bombing or other atrocities.
"The British and the Americans they know about Lockerbie, they know everything about Lockerbie so there are no secrets anymore," Mr Gaddafi said.
"Come on. The British government say this: you have no immunity unless you co-operate. He [Moussa Koussa] is sick, he is sick and old so if you put it this way, no immunity of course... [he] will come out with the funny stories."
On the ground in Libya, the Associated Press reports that rebel fighters have resumed their efforts to retake the eastern oil hub of Brega, pushing halfway into the town. They have won and lost control of the town several times in recent weeks.
The oil-rich country's vital coastal belt is effectively split between rebel forces in the east and government loyalists in Tripoli and the west, nearly two months after the start of a revolt against Col Gaddafi's rule.
A tanker carrying Libyan oil is expected to leave rebel-held territory on Tuesday, the first shipment of oil since the uprising began.
'Elections, referenda, anything'
Speaking in Tripoli, government spokesman Moussa Ibrahim said Col Gaddafi was "a safety valve for the country to remain together".
"The leader provides Libyan tribes and Libyan population of a unifying figure, as a unifying figure," he said.
"Many Libyans, many Libyans want him to lead the process forward because they are scared if he is not there for any reason we will have what happened in Iraq, we will have what happened in Somalia, we will have what happened in Afghanistan."
Libya, Mr Ibrahim said, was open to political reform - "elections, referenda, anything" - but "the leader has to lead this forward".
Mr Ibrahim said it was not for the West to tell Libya "you have to lose your leader or your system or your regime".
Denying government attacks on civilians, he challenged the outside world to investigate any alleged crimes.
"We are fighting armed militias," he said. "You are not a civilian if you take up arms."
Late on Monday Libyan state TV showed what appeared to be live footage of Col Gaddafi saluting supporters from a jeep outside his fortified compound at Bab al-Aziziya in Tripoli.
'Corpses in the street'
As fighting continued in eastern Libya, evacuees from the besieged city of Misrata, in the west, have accused pro-Gaddafi forces of atrocities against civilians.
On Sunday, a Turkish humanitarian ship carrying more than 250 injured people from Misrata, the only major city in western Libya still under rebel control, arrived in the rebel capital Benghazi.
Speaking from Tunisia, other evacuees told Reuters that Gaddafi forces there had been "massacring" civilians.
"You have to visit Misrata to see the massacre by Gaddafi," said Omar Boubaker, a 40-year-old engineer with a bullet wound to the leg, brought to the Tunisian port of Sfax by a French aid group.
"Corpses are in the street. Hospitals are overflowing."
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"lot of people in the west think that his ( Moussa Koussa) defection means that , all sort's off people , that leaving your father and that you're fathers government will collapse "
Saifs antwoord met smerige grijns
op smoel ..; You'll see blegh , hij blijft zo ziek zelfverzekerd he ...
maar indd we zullen zien
ik hoop alleen dat het bloedvergieten ophoud !
hoezo adhd ?
tijdje geleden trouwens al zo'n soort "training "gezien op AJE ;
quote:Libya crisis: Rebels in race to train recruits
By Wyre Davies 4 April 2011
BBC News, Benghazi
Training sessions in Benghazi are sometimes carried out using outdated equipment
At a military base in Benghazi, rebel leaders are in a desperate race to train new recruits.
They learn how to assemble and dismantle a heavy machine gun. Half an hour on this, then on to another lesson - perhaps the mechanics of firing a mortar shell with accuracy or how to handle an AK47.
This is how Libya's rebel army is being trained.
As one group of young men sits attentively on the floor of the parade ground in Benghazi, an instructor shows them how to arm and fire a mortar shell.
Most of these men have never seen a mortar round before, fired a gun or been anywhere near the front line.
Salam bin Fayed is nervous about moving to the front line
Men like Salam bin Fayed - an engineer by trade who has, against his better judgement, volunteered for the front because he believes in this revolution.
"I've come here to train, to defend my people. I'm learning how to use a gun," says Salam, distinctly nervous at the thought of going to the front line.
"I've never done this before, in fact I am against all war but you have to fight to defend your home."
I have been covering this conflict now for several weeks - on both sides - and this is the first time the rebel army has begun to resemble anything like a fighting force.
Mustafa al-Sageeze is a successful businessman who left his computer software company to help train and command this makeshift army. He admits that indiscipline and a lack of organisation are real concerns but says the enthusiastic recruits are learning fast.
"We are building and every day we are improving," says Mustafa, who looks every inch the rebel commander with his Che Guevara beard and black uniform.
Lack of experience
He is an optimist, and perhaps he has to be, because this is an uphill struggle.
The rebel army has very few experienced field commanders and, at times, they charge around in pick-up trucks with machine guns mounted on the back like a rag-tag collection of enthusiastic individuals.
Two days ago I saw the body of a young anti-Gadaffi fighter who had managed to shoot himself while trying to un-block his jammed rifle.
It was a tragedy for his brothers-in-arms but a clear illustration of how indisciplined the rebel soldiers can be.
There are other, fundamental, problems.
Later I went to see a live firing exercise for the recruits on a heavy calibre machine gun. But the session was repeatedly interrupted because the ageing gun kept jamming.
Over the weekend, rebel leaders in Benghazi made another desperate appeal, not only for the allied air strikes on Gaddafi's tanks and heavy armour to continue, but also for more weapons and military training.
At the training ground, new recruits - students, engineers, and teachers - listen closely and repeat their instructor's directions.
They are orders that may save their lives and prevent Col Gaddafi's better-equipped and better-organised troops advancing on Benghazi.
Rebel leaders say they need more weapons and more military training
hoezo adhd ?
Misratas Freedom Fighters Outsmart Gaddafis Soldiers!
door Libyan Youth Movement op dinsdag 5 april 2011 om 7:25.Wefaq Libya Reports from Misrata:
For each battle, one way to win includes this war trick! Because our freedom fighters have a sense of humor, theyve been inspired to use this method to overcome the tyrant. Several days ago, the freedom fighters unloaded the fuel station located on a service road for heavy transport vehicles. The gasoline it contained was emptied and was replaced with water instead. The freedom fighters then retreated thus leaving the fueling station to be accessible to the nearby Gaddafi brigade. Because its easy to trap a mouse in a trap, the rats of Gaddafi looted the fuel station and started filling their armored vehicles with fuel! When they attempt to leave, their vehicles stopped moving , and that is when our freedom fighters ambushed them! Gaddafis solders were forced to flee leaving their dead vehicles behind. I guess the next time they want to fill up, theyll have to taste the fuel to be sure!
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haha goeie actiequote:
Misratas Freedom Fighters Outsmart Gaddafis Soldiers!
door Libyan Youth Movement op dinsdag 5 april 2011 om 7:25.Wefaq Libya Reports from Misrata:
For each battle, one way to win includes this war trick! Because our freedom fighters have a sense of humor, theyve been inspired to use this method to overcome the tyrant. Several days ago, the freedom fighters unloaded the fuel station located on a service road for heavy transport vehicles. The gasoline it contained was emptied and was replaced with water instead. The freedom fighters then retreated thus leaving the fueling station to be accessible to the nearby Gaddafi brigade. Because its easy to trap a mouse in a trap, the rats of Gaddafi looted the fuel station and started filling their armored vehicles with fuel! When they attempt to leave, their vehicles stopped moving , and that is when our freedom fighters ambushed them! Gaddafis solders were forced to flee leaving their dead vehicles behind. I guess the next time they want to fill up, theyll have to taste the fuel to be sure!
hoezo adhd ?
deel 2 over wat de staatstv haar dwong te zeggen etc ( speelt vanzelf af na deel 1 )quote:
interview eman obeidi bij cnn
http://cnn.com/video/?/vi(...).woman.talks.pt1.cnn
maar goed , ze is dus wel "vrijgelaten "gelukkig , maar als ik het goed begrepen heb , lukt het haar niet naar Tunesi te vluchten omdat ze haar blijven aanhouden ... en is ze nog steeds in Tripoli
ook iets over die zus ???
( sorry het komt hier ff allemaal niet zo goed meer "binnen "
hoofd loopt beetje over ,vandaar dat ik wat minder post )
hoezo adhd ?
Source: Son could replace Gadhafi Added On April 4, 2011quote:Source: Libyan envoy testing waters for takeover by Gadhafi's son
From Nic Robertson, Senior International Correspondent
April 5, 2011 -- Updated 0442 GMT (1242 HKT)
Tripoli, Libya (CNN) -- The envoy sent by Moammar Gadhafi to the West is testing foreign governments' willingness to accept one of the embattled Libyan leader's sons as his successor, a source close to the Libyan leadership said Monday.
Under the proposal, Saif al-Islam Gadhafi, 38, would take over from his father and help to usher in swift reform, the source said.
Once thought to be a leading reformer inside the Libyan government, Saif has emerged as one of his father's most visible defenders since the start of the unrest.
To avoid instability, the transition must "be a gradual handover of power," the source said.
The source also stressed the need to negotiate a "respectful solution," so that the elder Gadhafi is not seen as being forced out. Moammar Gadhafi has led Libya for 42 years.
Libyan Deputy Foreign Minister Abdelati Obeidi met with Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou on Sunday. He arrived Monday in Turkey, where he is expected to continue talks.
CNN's Nic Robertson reports Moammar Gadhafi could transfer power of Libya's government to his son.
Gadhafi's sons floating a deal? Added On April 5, 2011
CNN's Brian Todd reports on a possible deal floated by Gadhafi's sons for a cease-fire.
hoezo adhd ?
Photo EPA - Gaddafi (refdag.nl)
Getty Images - A Libyan rebels loads artillery as Moamer Kadhafi's forces were hit by a NATO airstrike near Brega on April 5, 2011 after they launched an intensive artillery barrage that sent rebels fleeing from the outskirts of the east Libya oil town.
Getty Images - Refugees who fled Libya, washing in the Choucha refugee camp, near the Tunisian border town of Ras Jdir on March 8, 2011. The Red Cross and the United Arab Emirates plan to build two new camps on Tunisia's border with Libya in anticipation of a fresh arrival of refugees, an aid official said. An estimated 100,000 mainly foreign migrants have crossed from Libya into Tunisia since February 20, Tunisian officials said. Many have been repatriated in an international effort but thousands remain in temporary camps facing growing problems of hygiene.
Getty Images - Picture taken of energy biscuits given to the refugees on March 4, 2011 in the Djerba international airport. 'Many of those who have crossed the border appear to be frightened and are unwilling to speak.'
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2019: The Great Awakening
Libyan rebels duck down as others take cover as they come under attack during an exchange of fire with pro Gadhafi forces along the frontline at the outskirts of Brega, Libya Monday, April 4, 2011. Libyan rebels pushed into the strategic oil town of Brega on Monday but came under fire from Moammar Gadhafi's forces, as a government envoy began a diplomatic push in Europe to discuss an end to the fighting.
meer foto's van 4 april
hoezo adhd ?
Brega: Gaddafi forces fire mortars as Libyan rebels advance - video
Opposition forces push government troops towards the outskirts of the sprawling oil town of Brega in a slow advance west
guardian.co.uk, Monday 4 April 2011
Opposition forces push government troops towards the outskirts of the sprawling oil town of Brega in a slow advance west
guardian.co.uk, Monday 4 April 2011
hoezo adhd ?
Van: arrdvarks1 | Gemaakt op: 3 apr 2011quote:
interview eman obeidi bij cnn
http://cnn.com/video/?/vi(...).woman.talks.pt1.cnn
EXCLUSIVE Arabic television interview with the woman who stormed into the reporters breakfast in Tripoli Libya. Her head was bagged and she was hauled away. Now a television station interviews her. Eman al-obeidi.
Here is a cleaned up version with some corrections. replace everything with this text between lines of equal signs.
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Host: We have Eman directly from Tripoli so we know what happened. We are now fearing for you every time we establish a connection with you.
Eman:
I wanted to talk to the press.
Every time I leave a location I am intercepted at gun point (automatic weapons) and they take me into cars .
They took me from amongst the people at gun point.
They drove for a while around and around and then they took me to criminal investigations.
Host: So they kidnapped you, who kidnapped you?
Eman:
They did not show me any IDs, they are armed and have civilians cars.
They took me to to criminal investigations they said they are from national guard
Then they took me to criminal investigations. The later said we have nothing against you, why they brought here. We have no records on you. Then they let me go. Of course every time I am let go I am kidnapped again. One of these days they will NOT let me go anymore.
Armed in civilians clothes in cars belonging to the government.
Host: Eman you are a lawyer and you understand Law well, did you asked why they are kidnapping you?
Eman:
There is absolutely nothing against me
I don't know what to do in country where there is no law
Host: So Eman one step at a time, they kidnapped you....
Eman:
Armed in civilians clothes in cars belonging to the government.
They abused me and and hit me on my finger and my hands than they apologize, saying this was a mistake. I can't go like this anymore.
I wan to return to my family (in Benghazi) but they are refusing for me to return to my family. I don't know why they are refusing for me to return to my family.
Host: Have you asked for protection from the law, criminal court?
Eman:
I have tried several steps nothing works, no body is in office
There is no rule in this country. I don't know what to do in country where there is with no law. A country upside down (in mayhem)
Host: Despite these repeated kidnaps are you still insisting...
Eman:
I am still insisting on my rights, and on interviewing with the press. I won't go back on my stance. They will change my plea.
They distributed to people (Tripoli) false information about me and tell over their TV channel to the public come take diskettes containing Eman's illegal activities.
They accuse people left and right with all kinds of accusations. They are trying to destroy my reputation.
My family knows me well and they would not support me if they did know my character and values (Ethics/Morals).
I thank all the people, and my family who have been supported me.
Host: Have you tried going back to your family, East Region, Tubruq, for example?
Eman:
They would not let me go thru they will catch me and especially me Eman Al-Obeidi
I am on their blacklist and they will kill at the next roadblock.
They forbid me to travel to Tunis
I am prisoner here in Tripoli and cannot get out from any direction
Host: Do you think your life is danger?
Eman:
My life, of course, is in danger every minute they kidnap me
I am not sleeping, I expect them to come again.
My sister they are threatening to kill her 6 years old boy. They will kill her boy.
Host: What would like to tell the people, the world?
Eman:
I am asking to the east region and the Majliss al-watani (Temporary Government) that they ask for my return to my family, and the eastern region.
I want to return to my family I am in danger
My plea goes to all the human rights groups, Muslims and your
Host: We wish you the best of luck and peace...
Breaking news from Libya. The Gadhafi government has Kidnaped Iman al Obadi for few hours then released her today. The kidnapping happened during a telephone interview she made with the Libyan state TV. She was heard screaming before the line got disconnected. She was subjected to rap by Gaddafi forces and she mentioned them by name during her telephone interview with state TV.
hoezo adhd ?
quote:Reuters Top News
FLASH: Western air strikes have eliminated 30 pct of Gaddafi's military power so far - NATO official
Life is a tragedy for those who feel, but a comedy to those who think.
- Horace Walpole
- Horace Walpole
12:03 Reuters
A Libyan-owned ship carrying imported petrol has docked at the regime-controlled port of Zawiyah to relieve fuel shortage, a government official has said. They did not say where the ship had come from, or how the vessel had been able to get through a cordon of NATO warships which is patrolling Libyas coast to help enforce international sanctions.
14:06 AJA
Al Jazeera Arabic correspondent near Brega has reported that Gaddafis forces have pushed the volunteers from the revolutionaries 30km east back towards Ajdabiya. They seem to have received reinforcements as they have started to heavily bombard the revolutionaries with rockets once more. Their artillery fire is reaching big distances, and even as the media team was retreating, rockets were still falling nearby. Earlier today, 2 Gaddafi scout cars came near where the revolutionaries were stationed, and both cars were destroyed completely. In another incident, revolutionary pickup trucks received direct hits from Gaddafi rockets. The battle is still ongoing and though the volunteers have retreated, the trained soldiers headed by AbdulFattah Younis are still in the front lines and have been bombarding Gaddafis forces for 3 hours straight with Grad missiles and rockets. Gaddafis forces suffered large losses near the University of AnNajm as Sati in Brega yesterday but they have changed their fighting tactics and seem more equipped today
A Libyan-owned ship carrying imported petrol has docked at the regime-controlled port of Zawiyah to relieve fuel shortage, a government official has said. They did not say where the ship had come from, or how the vessel had been able to get through a cordon of NATO warships which is patrolling Libyas coast to help enforce international sanctions.
14:06 AJA
Al Jazeera Arabic correspondent near Brega has reported that Gaddafis forces have pushed the volunteers from the revolutionaries 30km east back towards Ajdabiya. They seem to have received reinforcements as they have started to heavily bombard the revolutionaries with rockets once more. Their artillery fire is reaching big distances, and even as the media team was retreating, rockets were still falling nearby. Earlier today, 2 Gaddafi scout cars came near where the revolutionaries were stationed, and both cars were destroyed completely. In another incident, revolutionary pickup trucks received direct hits from Gaddafi rockets. The battle is still ongoing and though the volunteers have retreated, the trained soldiers headed by AbdulFattah Younis are still in the front lines and have been bombarding Gaddafis forces for 3 hours straight with Grad missiles and rockets. Gaddafis forces suffered large losses near the University of AnNajm as Sati in Brega yesterday but they have changed their fighting tactics and seem more equipped today
1 van de vele twitters:
How is it that he has continuous ammo & weapons for his mercenary forces, how is it that they are moving so organized?
De NATO begint zijn geloofwaardigheid te verliezen. Erdogan met zijn veto waarschuwing houdt de NATO in zijn greep. Speelt hij een dubbelrol vragen vele zich af.
Er is een olieschip gearriveerd in Mizwata om het olietekort van G aan te vullen.
Waar komen al die versterkingen van wapens en manschappen vandaan terwijl 30% is uitgeschakeld volgens NATO woordvoerder.
Een schip met wapens voor de FF is onderschept door de NATO.
Als de NATO zo doorgaat zal het Libische volk zich weer tegen het Westen keren ben ik bang.
How is it that he has continuous ammo & weapons for his mercenary forces, how is it that they are moving so organized?
De NATO begint zijn geloofwaardigheid te verliezen. Erdogan met zijn veto waarschuwing houdt de NATO in zijn greep. Speelt hij een dubbelrol vragen vele zich af.
Er is een olieschip gearriveerd in Mizwata om het olietekort van G aan te vullen.
Waar komen al die versterkingen van wapens en manschappen vandaan terwijl 30% is uitgeschakeld volgens NATO woordvoerder.
Een schip met wapens voor de FF is onderschept door de NATO.
Als de NATO zo doorgaat zal het Libische volk zich weer tegen het Westen keren ben ik bang.
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@Sunny nogmaals de NATO is eigenlijk een militair apparaat wat uitsluitend als verdedigend orgaan is opgericht en eigenlijk ook zo dient te handelen. Dat de laatste jaren, onder invloed van de Amerikanen, ook als aanvallend orgaan is ingezet, heeft dus gevolgen voor haar functioneren en dat is maar goed ook. Ik persoonlijk ben nooit van oorlogen en vind ook dan de NATO nooit had mogen ingrijpen. Wat zou er gebeuren als G in staat was geweest om NATO aan te vallen? Dan kom je in een spagaat terecht waarin je niet wilt zijn als land. Je hebt dan nl een oorlogsverklaring gehad waar je U tegen zegt. Het MO heeft wel een aantal oorlogen gekend, maar niet zoals wij die in het Westen hebben gekend. Dat vergeten jullie nog wel eens, terwijl nu wel alle elementen aanwezig zijn. Denk dat je dan geen asymmetrisch oorlog meer krijgt.
Oh en als je geld als water hebt, komen de wapenhandelaars als vliegen op de stront af. Heb je nog een buurland als Algerije...
Oh en als je geld als water hebt, komen de wapenhandelaars als vliegen op de stront af. Heb je nog een buurland als Algerije...
Ik snap het wel, maar leg het de burgers van Libi maar eens uit die voor vrijheid strijden, dat hun versterking wordt tegengehouden en de pro's vrije doorgang hebben.quote:
@Sunny nogmaals de NATO is eigenlijk een militair apparaat wat uitsluitend als verdedigend orgaan is opgericht en eigenlijk ook zo dient te handelen. Dat de laatste jaren, onder invloed van de Amerikanen, ook als aanvallend orgaan is ingezet, heeft dus gevolgen voor haar functioneren en dat is maar goed ook. Ik persoonlijk ben nooit van oorlogen en vind ook dan de NATO nooit had mogen ingrijpen. Wat zou er gebeuren als G in staat was geweest om NATO aan te vallen? Dan kom je in een spagaat terecht waarin je niet wilt zijn als land. Je hebt dan nl een oorlogsverklaring gehad waar je U tegen zegt. Het MO heeft wel een aantal oorlogen gekend, maar niet zoals wij die in het Westen hebben gekend. Dat vergeten jullie nog wel eens, terwijl nu wel alle elementen aanwezig zijn. Denk dat je dan geen asymmetrisch oorlog meer krijgt.
Oh en als je geld als water hebt, komen de wapenhandelaars als vliegen op de stront af. Heb je nog een buurland als Algerije...
In mijn opini is het ook niet overall het Libische leger, maar een huurlingenleger gelevert door Algarije, Chad enz. betaald door Gadaffi. Ze kunnen dus met droge ogen beweren dat zij geen burgers vermoorden.
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Daar zijn de opstanden onlangs nog neergeslagen toch?quote:
Algerije is next, let op mijn woorden. Achterlijke regering daar.
Verrader! Hij heeft oud libische vlag aanquote:
Weet niet of ie al is geplaats, maar ....
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Rebellen hebben stijl
All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers. ~Franois Fnelon
