http://www.sirbacon.org/links/dblohseven.htmlquote:The Earl of Leicester, Robert Dudley (the Queen's favorite), was the first man, according to Dodd to license a band of players for dramatic purposes. Without a license, acting was illegal in Elizabeth's England. It was through Leicester's sphere of influence, that a young Francis Bacon had developed interest in drama and the theater while getting the opportunity to know James Burbage, the first man to build a theater in England. Bacon would also get to meet in the Court circles the man who had tutored Leicester and advised Elizabeth on matters of state -the man whom Ian Fleming modeled his 007 James Bond character on, the first and perhaps the best secret agent of the crown, Dr.John Dee.
John Dee(1527-1608) was a fascinating genius, considered a magus, philosopher and alchemist who captured the attention of the royal courts and best minds throughout Europe. You were either intimidated by his ideas and reputation or you wished to be influenced by them. It has only been in the last century that we've had a more sober approach to Dee, thanks to such authors as Peter French, Francis Yates, Gerald Shuster and Richard Deacon who have rescued this "man of grand design" from obscurity and have realized how significant a thinker he was.
Dr. Dee's learning was far and wide, a brilliant mathematician, whose study ranged from geo-cartography and calculus which was vital in navigating the New World for explorers, to astrology, alchemy, the Cabala, cypher writing, religion, architecture, and science. In short, Dee's metaphysics were a 'red' cross of the Hermetic tradition with a strong dose of mathematics. His library at the riverside village of Mortlake was considered the finest private collection in Europe containing thousands of bound books and handwritten manuscripts devoted to philosophy, science and esoterica. In comparison the University of Cambridge at the time had a mere 451 total books and manuscripts in their possession.
Little has come down to us in terms of records of Francis Bacon and John Dee knowing each other but on the afternoon of August 11, 1582 there was an entry in Dee's journal that they met at Mortlake. Bacon was 21 years old at the time and was accompanied by a Mr. Phillipes, a top cryptographer in the employ of Sir Francis Walsingham who headed up the early days of England's secret service. They were there according to Ewen MacDuff, in an article, "After Some Time Be Past" in 'Baconiana', (Dec.1983)" to find out the truth about the ancient Hebrew art of the Gematria- one of the oldest cipher systems known, dating from 700 B.C. They were seeking to discuss this with Dee because he was not only one of the leading adepts of this field, but a regular practitioner in certain levels of Gematria." Also, David Kahn in The Codebreakers suggests that because of Dee's great interest in the 13th century alchemist Roger Bacon, that he may have introduced Bacon to the works of Roger Bacon,"which may help explain the similarities in their thought."
Mwa, meer met de geschiedenis van Illuminati. Ik ging eigenlijk door op het vorige topic.quote:
Tussen Solomon en en Dee ligt een groot gat.quote:Op woensdag 21 april 2010 09:03 schreef Ticker het volgende:
De oorsprong ligt bij Koning Solomon.. bouwer van de Tempel op de Tempelberg.. kenner van het Occulte.. zoon van David, belangrijke pion in het Joodse geloof.
Ook wel genoemd "seal of god".
Wat zou dan de leugen zijn volgens jou?quote:Op woensdag 21 april 2010 13:21 schreef Ali_Kannibali het volgende:
Solomon was geen kenner van het occulte, dat is vrijmetselaars mythe. Occultisten draaien altijd de bijbel op zijn kop, maken van God de duivel, van de slang het goede aspect van God, van Mozes een occultist en Jezus een ascended master. Deze redeneringen zitten echter zo vol gaten dat iedereen die zich er een beetje in verdiept kan zien dat er niets van kan kloppen.
Vrijmetselaars verwijzen naar Solomon omdat onder zijn autoriteit de tempel in Jeruzalem werd gebouwd. Volgens het verhaal waren er 3 speciale sleutelwoorden die 3 verschillende personen kenden: Solomon, Hiram Abiff en nog iemand waarvan ik de naam even kwijt ben. Hiram Abiff werd tegen het einde van het bouwen van de tempel vermoord, en uiteindelijk uit de dood herrezen met de 3e graads vrijmetselaars greep. Hiram Abiff is een zeer klein figuur in de bijbel en in de vrijmetselarij is hij een andere vorm van Horus, het zonnekind.
Dat hij iemand was die de esoterische inner-circle doctrines aanhield en de rest slechts schijn was.quote:Op woensdag 21 april 2010 13:40 schreef Ticker het volgende:
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Wat zou dan de leugen zijn volgens jou?
Ja dat is dan weer wel zo. Om zijn verschillende vrouwen te plezieren liet hij overal afgodenbeelden plaatsen. En uiteindelijk ging hij zelf ook overstag. Dat maakt hem echter geen insider die zich anders voordeed dan hij was.quote:Als je kijkt naar de verhalen over Solomon is hij begonnen als een orthodoxe jood en aan het einde was hij wel redelijk in voor allerlei Goden en culturen.
Welke denkwijze bedoel je?quote:Zijn on-joodse manier van doen en denkwijze, worden zo min mogelijk aangehaald. Men begint liever over zijn heilige tempel en de ark.
Wanneer is het 'officieel' benoemd? Door wie?quote:Dat terwijl ze duidelijk naar voor halen waar de grote verbastering van het Hexagram zijn begin heeft gekregen en wanneer het hexagram officieel tot david-ster als Joods symbool is benoemt.
De Koran staat wat mij betreft vol onwaarheden.quote:Vergeet ook niet dat hij in de Quran wel degelijk magische trekjes toegewezen krijgt.
Kan je dat toelichten?quote:Op woensdag 21 april 2010 20:01 schreef Ali_Kannibali het volgende:
De Koran staat wat mij betreft vol onwaarheden.
http://www.recoveredscience.com/const305goldenprehistory.htmquote:Op woensdag 21 april 2010 10:46 schreef heartz het volgende:
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Tussen Solomon en en Dee ligt een groot gat.
Waar de Templars ingevuld kunnen worden.
Zijn er mensen die dit inhoudelijk kunnen invullen? (Als de zin en tijd er is)
Thanx. Geen zin om het een beetje uiteen te zetten?quote:Op woensdag 21 april 2010 20:14 schreef Q.E.D. het volgende:
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http://www.recoveredscience.com/const305goldenprehistory.htm
Gulden snede heeft er iets mee te maken.
http://www.bibliotecapley(...)_ritualcathedral.htm
http://theglinniconnection.blogspot.com/
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempeliers#Tempel_van_Salomoquote:Op woensdag 21 april 2010 20:51 schreef heartz het volgende:
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Thanx. Geen zin om het een beetje uiteen te zetten?
quote:Tempel van Salomo
In 1120 zwoeren ze de patriarch (bisschop) van Jeruzalem om de wegen te beschermen en een leven in kuisheid, armoede en vroomheid te leiden. Koning Boudewijn II van Jeruzalem zag het mogelijke nut van zo'n groep in en stelde hun een deel van zijn paleis ter beschikking, dat vlakbij de tempel stond. Dit zou de eerste van vele giften zijn die de Tempeliers de komende 200 jaar als orde zouden ontvangen. Op de Tempelberg had koning Salomo rond 1000 v.Chr. zijn tempel gebouwd, maar na de verwoesting in 70 n.Chr. was er niets meer te vinden. Naar verluidt zou de profeet Mohammed daar aan zijn hemelvaart begonnen zijn en hadden de moslims de al-Aqsamoskee en de Rotskoepel gebouwd. De Tempeliers breidden het gebied uit en zetten er nieuwe gebouwen op. De al-Aqsamoskee werd de Salomonstempel en de Rotskoepel werd tot kerk gewijd. Vrijwel meteen noemde de groep zich de tempelorde. Van hun verblijf op de Tempelberg is nu niets meer terug te vinden, want toen de moslimleider Saladin in 1187 Jeruzalem heroverde, verwijderde hij elk spoor van hun aanwezigheid. De Tempeliers zouden er blijven tot 1191 en verhuisden toen hun hoofdkwartier naar Akko.
Ja in de voetnoten zie je dat het grotendeels van historici komt.quote:
Hiram is naar mijn weten nooit uit de dood herrezen, maar herbegraven. Dit is dezelfde fout als men maakt met Jezus. Dergelijke onnatuurlijkheden verblinden de waarheid, terwijl de boodschap juist zo belangrijk en serieus dient te worden genomen.quote:Op woensdag 21 april 2010 20:01 schreef Ali_Kannibali het volgende:
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Dat hij iemand was die de esoterische inner-circle doctrines aanhield en de rest slechts schijn was.
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Ja dat is dan weer wel zo. Om zijn verschillende vrouwen te plezieren liet hij overal afgodenbeelden plaatsen. En uiteindelijk ging hij zelf ook overstag. Dat maakt hem echter geen insider die zich anders voordeed dan hij was.
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Welke denkwijze bedoel je?
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Wanneer is het 'officieel' benoemd? Door wie?
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De Koran staat wat mij betreft vol onwaarheden.
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salomo#Archeologiequote:Archeologie
In de archeologie van Israël zijn tot nu toe weinig of geen onbetwiste sporen van Salomo's regering gevonden. in feite is er over de periode tussen de zestiende en de achtste eeuw v.Chr., ondanks vele opgravingen en onderzoekingen, maar heel weinig gevonden. De bevolking van de landstreek Judea bestond waarschijnlijk slechts uit enkele duizenden nomadische herders. Steden zijn niet gevonden, wel een twintigtal dorpen. Of er in de tijd van Salomo (dat zou dus de tiende eeuw zijn) een staat in Palestina bestond is omstreden; er zijn zelfs geen potscherven uit deze tijd bekend. Het zou kunnen zijn dat dit te wijten is aan de vele verwoestingen en daarop volgende wederopbouw (waarbij uit praktische overwegingen oud bouwmateriaal hergebruikt werd) die bijna alle plaatsen en steden in Israël hebben ondergaan in de 3000 jaar sinds Salomo.
Op geen enkele plaats in Palestina is archeologisch materiaal gevonden dat zou wijzen op de bijbelse 'rijkdom van Salomo's hof'. Alles in de Bijbel klinkt wat dat betreft sterk overdreven: zijn wijsheid, zijn rijkdom, zijn vrouwen, bijvrouwen, zelfs de bouw van de tempel (een betrekkelijk klein bouwwerk).[14]
http://www.timesonline.co(...)e/article3919430.ecequote:Archaeologists claim to have found the palace of the Queen of Sheba, an altar that may have held the Ark of the Covenant.
Now German researchers claim to have found the remains of the palace of the Queen of Sheba — and an altar that may have held the Ark.
The discovery, announced by the University of Hamburg, has stirred sceptical rumblings from the archaelogical community. The location of the Ark, indeed its existence, has been a source of controversy for centuries.
Regarded as the most precious treasure of ancient Judaism, it is at the heart of a debate about whether archaeology should chronicle the rise and fall of civilisations or explore the boundaries between myth and ancient history.
Ik zal het je nog mooier vertellen.quote:Op woensdag 21 april 2010 22:29 schreef heartz het volgende:
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http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salomo#Archeologie
Er zijn behalve de Bijbel geen archeologische vondsten van Solomon gedaan.
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http://www.timesonline.co(...)e/article3919430.ece
Er wordt ook geclaimed dat het paleis van koningin Sheba is gevonden.
quote:http://www.world-mysteries.com/gw_rellis1.htm
But what of the later and more famous Judaic monarchs from the United Monarchy of Israel? What of King David and King Solomon? While these monarchs were undoubtedly missing from the archaeological record of Judaea, could they too have had an Egyptian ancestry and heritage? This suggestion might initially seem to be highly unlikely, as it is obvious that nothing in the biblical history of the United Monarchy can be directly compared to the chronologically equivalent pharaohs within the 21st and 22nd dynasties of Egypt. But perhaps the real problem here, is that this accepted axiom is so obvious that nobody has actually tried comparing these two dynasties, and upon making an initial comparison I was surprised to find a great number of similarities between the 'separate' 10th century BC monarchies of Israel and Egypt. For instance, the following table lists the known pharaohs of the twenty-first dynasty and compares these names with the equivalent biblical ancestors of King David:
Biblical Leaders Historical Pharaohs
Ezron (Hezron) Ramesses
Ram Ramesses
Amminadab Amen-Nesbanebdjed (Smendes)
Nahshon Nemneshu (Amenemnishu)
Salmon Siamun
Boaz Bas-Uasorkon
Obed Amenemopet
Jesse Harsiese
David Psusennes II
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B Ez--ron,
H Esses--ram(Ramesses X),
B Ram,
H Ram--esses (Ramesses XI),
B Ammin--nad-dab,
H Amen--Nes-ba-neb-djed,
B ...Nah--shon,
H Amenem-Ne-shu,
B S--almon,
H Si--amun,
B B--Oaz,
H Bas--Uas--orkon,
B ...Obed,
H Amenem--Opet,
B Je--sse,
H Har--siese,
B David,
H Psusennes.
Star of David..!quote:Admittedly, there is not much of a similarity between David and Psusennes, however Psusennes was known as the 'star' and the 'city'. Similarly, King David was known for the Star of David and the City of David.
http://news.nationalgeogr(...)103-hebrew-text.htmlquote:Oldest Hebrew Text Is Evidence for Bible Stories?
November 3, 2008
What may be the oldest known Hebrew text, found on a hilltop above the valley where David is said to have battled Goliath, could lend historical support to some Bible stories, archaeologists say.
The 3,000-year-old pottery shard with five lines of text was found during excavations of the Elah Fortress, the oldest known biblical-period fortress, which dates to the tenth century B.C.
It is the most important archaeological discovery in Israel since the Dead Sea Scrolls, according to lead researcher Yosef Garfinkel of the Hebrew University's Institute of Archaeology.
His team believes the text may provide evidence for a real-life King David and his vast kingdom, the existence of which has been long doubted by scholars.
Carbon-14 dating of olive pits found at the archaeological site, as well as analysis of pottery remains, also place the text to between 1000 and 975 B.C., the time King David, head of the Kingdom of Israel, would have lived.
"This means that historical knowledge of King David could pass from generation to generation in writing—and not just as oral tradition."
The exact nature of the text— believed to be Hebrew written in Proto-Canaanite script, a type of early alphabet—has yet to be determined, but a number of root words have already been translated, including "judge," "slave," and "king."
But the archaeologist's claims are disputed by an Israeli colleague, who says there is not enough scientific information to reach definitive conclusions.
Strategic Valley
The fortress is located southwest of Jerusalem on what was the border between the Israelite-run Kingdom of Judea and the coastal Philistine territories. Philistines, who possibly came from Crete, settled the southern coast of Palestine around the same time as the Israelites in the 12th century B.C.
(See a time line of early Christianity.)
During the biblical period, the Elah Valley was the main point of passage between the two territories.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE4AI7S920081119quote:(Reuters) - An Israeli archaeologist said on Wednesday he had unearthed what he believed were the 2,000-year-old remains of two tombs which had held a wife and daughter-in-law of the biblical King Herod.
Science
Other findings announced by Ehud Netzer of Jerusalem's Hebrew University provided new evidence of the lavish lifestyle of the Roman-era monarch also known as the "King of the Jews."
Herod, a Roman-anointed king who ruled Judea from 37 BC until his death in 4 BC, has a special place in biblical history. Herod rebuilt the Jewish temple in Jerusalem, making him a focus of study in the Jewish state.
The Gospel of Matthew says Herod ordered the "Massacre of the Innocents," the killing of male infants in Jesus' birthplace of Bethlehem, out of fear of losing his throne.
Netzer, an authority on Herodian excavations, showed reporters portions of two limestone sarcophagi he says had contained remains of one of Herod's wives, Malthace, and a daughter-in-law.
He said these findings supported his claims that another sarcophagus he found at the site in 2007 had been Herod's tomb. Some experts had said then the evidence seemed inconclusive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahabquote:Ahab
Ahab or Ach'av or Achab in Douay-Rheims (Hebrew: אַחְאָב, Modern Aẖ'av Tiberian ʼAḥʼāḇ ; "Brother of the father"; Greek: Αχααβ; Latin: Achab) was king of Israel and the son and successor of Omri.[1]
Ahab became king of Israel in the thirty-eighth year of Asa, king of Judah, and reigned for twenty-two years.[2] William F. Albright dated his reign to 869 – 850 BC, while E. R. Thiele offered the dates 874 – 853 BC.[3]
Family
Ahab married Jezebel, the daughter of King Ithobaal I of Tyre, and the alliance was doubtless the means of procuring political support.
hab's reign
Shalmaneser III's (859-824 BC) Kurkh Monolith names King Ahab.(see List of artifacts significant to the Bible
During Ahab's reign, Moab, which had been conquered by his father, remained tributary; Judah, with whose king, Jehoshaphat, he was allied by marriage, was probably his vassal; only with Aram Damascus is he believed to have had strained relations.
http://phoenicia.org/jezebel.htmlquote:Jezebel was the great-aunt of Elissar (Dido) another princess of Tyre and Queen of Carthage, who actually founded Carthage and its Phoenician Punic dominions. Carthage became later a great center of the western Mediterranean in its high-noon. One of its most famous sons was Hannibal who defied Rome.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippo_Regiusquote:Main article: Synod of Hippo
Three councils were held at Hippo (393, 394, 426) and more synods - also in 397 (two sessions), June and September and 401, all under Aurelius.
The synods of the Ancient (North) African church were held, with but few exceptions (e.g. Hippo, 393; Milevum, 402) at Carthage. We know from the letters of St. Cyprian that, except in time of persecution, the African bishops met at least once a year, in the springtime, and sometimes again in the autumn. Six or seven synods, for instance, were held under St. Cyprian's presidency during the decade of his administration (249-258), and more than fifteen under Aurelius (391-429). The Synod of Hippo of 393 ordered a general meeting yearly, but this was found too onerous for the bishops, and in the Synod of Carthage (407) it was decided to hold a general synod only when necessary for the needs of all Africa, and it was to be held at a place most convenient for the purpose. Not all the bishops of the country were required to assist at the general synod. At the Synod of Hippo (393) it was ordered that "dignities" should be sent from each ecclesiastical province. Only one was required from Tripoli, because of the poverty of the bishops of that province. At the Synod of Hippo (393), and again at the Synod of 397 at Carthage, a list of the books of Holy Scripture was drawn up. It is the Catholic canon (i.e. including some of the books later classed by Protestants as Apocrypha).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuatha_D%C3%A9_Danannquote:Legendary history
The Tuatha Dé Danann were descended from Nemed, leader of a previous wave of inhabitants of Ireland. They came from four northern cities, Falias, Gorias, Murias and Finias, where they acquired their occult skills and attributes. They arrived in Ireland, on or about May 1 (the date of the festival of Bealtaine), on dark clouds, although later versions rationalise this by saying they burned their ships to prevent retreat, and the "clouds" were the smoke produced.
Led by their king, Nuada, they fought the First Battle of Magh Tuiredh (Moytura), on the west coast, in which they defeated and displaced the native Fir Bolg, who then inhabited Ireland. In the battle, Nuada lost an arm to their champion, Sreng. Since Nuada was no longer "unblemished", he could not continue as king and was replaced by the half-Fomorian Bres, who turned out to be a tyrant. The physician Dian Cecht replaced Nuada's arm with a working silver one and he was reinstated as king. However, Dian Cecht's son Miach was dissatisfied with the replacement so he recited the spell, "ault fri halt dí ⁊ féith fri féth" (joint to joint of it and sinew to sinew), which caused flesh to grow over the silver prosthesis over the course of nine days and nights.[7][8] However, in a fit of jealous rage Dian Cecht slew his own son. Because of Nuada's restoration as leader, Bres complained to his family and his father, Balor, king of the Fomorians.
The Tuatha Dé Danann then fought the Second Battle of Magh Tuiredh against the Fomorians. Nuada was killed by the Fomorian king Balor's poisonous eye, but Balor was killed himself by Lugh, the champion of the Tuatha Dé, who then took over as king.
A third battle was fought against a subsequent wave of invaders, the Milesians, from the northwest of the Iberian Peninsula (present day Galicia and Northern Portugal), descendants of Míl Espáine (who are thought to represent the Goidelic Celts). The Milesians encountered three goddesses of the Tuatha Dé Danann, Ériu, Banba and Fodla, who asked that the island be named after them; Ériu is the origin of the modern name Éire, and Banba and Fodla are still sometimes used as poetic names for Ireland.
Their three husbands, Mac Cuill, Mac Cecht and Mac Gréine, who were kings of the Tuatha Dé Danann at that time, asked for a truce of three days, during which the Milesians would lie at anchor nine waves' distance from the shore. The Milesians complied, but the Tuatha Dé Danann created a magical storm in an attempt to drive them away. The Milesian poet Amergin calmed the sea with his verse, then his people landed and defeated the Tuatha Dé Danann at Tailtiu. When Amergin was called upon to divide the land between the Tuatha Dé Danann and his own people, he cleverly allotted the portion above ground to the Milesians and the portion underground to the Tuatha Dé Danann. The Tuatha Dé Danann were led underground into the Sidhe mounds by The Dagda.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A1l_Riataquote:Dál Riata (also Dalriada or Dalriata) was a Gaelic overkingdom on the western coast of Scotland with some territory on the northern coasts of Ireland. In the late 6th and early 7th century it encompassed roughly what is now Argyll and Bute and Lochaber in Scotland and also County Antrim in Northern Ireland.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pictsquote:The Picts were a confederation of Celtic tribes living in what was later to become eastern and northern Scotland from before the Roman conquest of Britain until the 10th century, when they merged with the Gaels. They lived to the north of the Forth and Clyde rivers, and spoke the extinct Pictish language, thought to have been related to the Brythonic languages spoken by the Britons to the south. They are assumed to have been the descendants of the Caledonii and other tribes named by Roman historians or found on the world map of Ptolemy. Pictland, also known as Pictavia, gradually merged with the Gaelic kingdom of Dál Riata to form the Kingdom of Alba (Scotland). Alba expanded, absorbing the Brythonic kingdom of Strathclyde and Bernician Lothian, and by the 11th century the Pictish identity had become completely subsumed under a new term for this amalgamation of peoples: the "Scots".
Archaeology gives some impression of the society of the Picts. Although very little in the way of Pictish writing has survived, Pictish history since the late 6th century is known from a variety of sources, including Bede's Historia ecclesiastica gentis Anglorum, saints' lives such as that of Columba by Adomnán, and various Irish annals. Although the popular impression of the Picts may be one of an obscure, mysterious people, this is far from being the case. When compared with the generality of Northern, Central and Eastern Europe in Late Antiquity and the Early Middle Ages, Pictish history and society are well attested.[1]
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_of_Sconequote:Stone of Scone
Replica van de Stone of Scone op het terrein van Scone Palace.De Stone of Scone, ook wel de Stone of Destiny (Steen van het Lot) genoemd, is de steen waarop van de negende tot en met veertiende eeuw alle Schotse koningen werden gekroond. De laatste koning die hierop gekroond werd, was John Balliol in 1292. De steen bevindt zich tegenwoordig samen met de Schotse regalia in Edinburgh Castle.
Folklore
Er bestaan veel verschillende verhalen over de Stone of Scone. Zo is er een overlevering dat de steen dezelfde steen is die Jacob gebruikte als kussen bij zijn vlucht voor Esau.[2] Deze steen zou dan in de negende eeuw naar Schotland gebracht zijn vanuit het Heilige Land. Een andere overlevering vertelt dat Sint Columba de steen naar de Picten bracht vanuit Ierland. De steen zou eerst op Iona bewaard zijn, om daar koningen te kronen, en pas later vervoerd zijn naar Scone.
Authenticiteit
Er zijn bij een aantal historici twijfels over de authenticiteit van de Stone of Scone, zoals die nu in Edinburgh ligt.[2] Er zijn twee belangrijke momenten geweest waarop de steen verwisseld zou kunnen zijn met een replica. Ten eerste in 1296. Het is niet ondenkbaar dat de monniken van Scone Abbey de originele steen vervangen hebben door een replica, voordat Edward I hem meenam. Beschrijvingen van de Stone of Scone uit de dertiende eeuw en eerder lijken namelijk af te wijken van de huidige steen; de steensoort zou donkerder zijn geweest en er zou een soort zitting in uitgehouwen zijn. Ten tweede zou de steen ook in 1950 vervangen kunnen zijn. Er zijn namelijk de nodige mensen die twijfelen of de steen die in Arbroath Abbey werd teruggevonden wel de steen was die enkele maanden eerder uit Westminster Abbey gestolen werd
Eerst maar een oproepquote:Op vrijdag 23 april 2010 10:13 schreef Ticker het volgende:
DemoLay weet daar veel over..misschien hem eens aan tikken om te komen kijken in dit topic.
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