Tuurlijk niet....
German court ruling calls into question the entire European project post Lisbon
"and ruled the sovereignty of a member state (in this case Germany), must always take precedence over diktats from Brussels."
Duitse rechtbank stelt dat de soevereiniteit van een lid-staat, altijd zwaarder moet wegen dat een diktatuur uit Brussel.... goed op weg dus.... toch?
Hele tekst:German court ruling calls into question the entire European project post Lisbon
A RECENT landmark legal ruling in Germany has sent the EU integration project into complete disarray. The German Constitutional Court examined the Lisbon Treaty – the successor to the infamous EU Constitution – and ruled the sovereignty of a member state (in this case Germany), must always take precedence over diktats from Brussels.
The Constitutional Court in Karlsruhe effectively declared itself the highest supervisory body in conflicts between Germany and the EU, thus explicitly placing itself above the authority of the European Court of Justice. As Der Spiegel reported: "This borders on a declaration of war on the European Court, which sees itself as the only authority capable of ruling on the validity and applicability of EU law."
The German judges went further by ruling the German Parliament had been wrong in passing an "accompanying law" to the Lisbon Treaty, which determined the rights of the German parliament to participate in European legislation. By passing the right to monitor the implementation of EU laws to Brussels, the Bundestag was acting unconstitutionally, said the judges, and subjecting people to the "whims of a bureaucracy that lacks sufficient democratic legitimacy". Indeed, the Karlsruhe judges ruled it was clearly not the case that "the EU parliament is a representative body of a sovereign European people" as set down in the Lisbon Treaty. They explained:
"After all, EU members of parliament were not elected according to the principle of electoral equality, in other words, one man one vote, but rather according to national contingents, meaning that a Maltese MEP represents 67,000 Maltese, a Swedish MEP has a constituency of 455,000 Swedes and in Germany, the ratio is 1 to 857,000."
The court saw this as a clear contradiction to the remainder of EU law, which is constructed around the central idea of prohibiting discrimination based on nationality. According to the court's concluding statements, this contradiction can only be explained by the fact that the EU is not a state but rather "an association of sovereign states" and, consequently, "there can be no sovereign citizens' union as well as no completely representative organ in the form of the European Parliament, with the result that the Bundestag must receive substantially more rights".
The Karlsruhe interpretation thus demolishes the old European idea that the recognised democratic deficits in the EU would disappear completely of their own accord by enhancing the rights of the European Parliament, allowing MEPs to assume the role of the national parliaments.
All of this has come as a political bombshell to the newly elected European Parliament, where Europhiles eagerly await the outcome of a second referendum on the Lisbon Treaty due to be held in Ireland on 2 October, praying for a Yes vote. If the highest court in Germany can rule the EU, under the terms of the Lisbon Treaty, is undemocratic, then the project aimed at further and deeper EU integration will be called into question.
UK Conservative MEPs have defected from the large, centre-right, integrationist EPP Group in the European Parliament, to form their own, more eurosceptic, European Conservatives and Reformists group (ECR).
The ECR sees itself as offering a voice to the millions of Europeans who oppose the concept of an EU superstate and instead wish to see the development of a successful economic, rather than political union.
Now, according to the German judges, national identity must take precedence over integration.
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Ow,... en de TT zal vast wijzigen naar iets van Brussel brokkelt langzaam af, ofzow...
quote:Zo te lezen wel ongeveer...Op vrijdag 4 september 2009 13:11 schreef Iblis het volgende:
Is dat niet hetzelfde als dit: Duitsland mag het EU grondwet voorlopig niet ratificeren ?
TS wil je een merge naar NWS? Of mag deze dicht en daar verder?
quote:Op vrijdag 4 september 2009 13:11 schreef Iblis het volgende:
Is dat niet hetzelfde als dit: Duitsland mag het EU grondwet voorlopig niet ratificeren ?
Nope, deze gaat veel verder zo.... NWS zit nu eenmaal gebakken aan bronnen uit betaalde media,... wij hebben de echte verhalen. Deze kant uit, en dan verder......quote:OkOp vrijdag 4 september 2009 13:13 schreef Oversight het volgende:
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We zullen het beestje aan de hartbewaking leggen
langs deze...
Ben benieuwd wat voor gevaren ze nu weer op gaan noemen die al simpel te weerleggen zijn.
filmpje http://www.wiseupjournal.com/?p=173
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Europe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valéry_Giscard_d%27Estaing http://euobserver.com/9/27778quote:Worden ze op die manier wel erkend door de andere lidstaten dan? Omdat ze dus de stukken dan aanpassen?Op vrijdag 4 september 2009 13:23 schreef Iblis het volgende:
Volgens mij stemt de Duitse bondsdag binnenkort over een aangepaste versie van de begeleidende stukken van het Lissabonverdrag, die wel voldoen aan de Duitse grondwettelijke eisen.
Voor de minder oplettende en geletterde en intelligente user/moderator/FA/A http://www.corbettreport.com/mp3/2009-05-05%20Tony%20Gosling.mp3quote:Op vrijdag 4 september 2009 13:27 schreef Dragorius het volgende:
Oversight, kun je ook ff wat toelichting geven bij die linkjes aub?
straks ......anders raak ik het overzicht kwijt dat ik nu nog uit mijn hoofd kan linken... straks alle uitleg die je wilt..
http://www.prisonplanet.c(...)le-fourth-reich.html
Top Nazis Planned EU-Style Fourth Reich
Influential economists and industrialists were ordered to preserve Nazi power by creating European common market, documents show
http://europa.eu/abc/history/index_en.htm
It's easy to convince people that history is boring and uncontroversial when it's presented like this..
quote:Ok, als je het maar doetOp vrijdag 4 september 2009 13:29 schreef Oversight het volgende:
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quote:Volgens mij waren die begeleidende stukken alleen voor en door Duitsland. Die hielden in hoe de afgevaardigden vanuit Duitsland benoemd of gecontroleerd zouden worden o.i.d.Op vrijdag 4 september 2009 13:26 schreef Dragorius het volgende:
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Worden ze op die manier wel erkend door de andere lidstaten dan? Omdat ze dus de stukken dan aanpassen?
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straks, vanavond, morgen... beloofd. knal deze ander hier dicht, ik heb alles bij elkaar om er morgen een behoorlijke op van te maken...quote:OKOp vrijdag 4 september 2009 13:36 schreef Oversight het volgende:
