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  zaterdag 18 juli 2009 @ 17:23:37 #251
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1233 Olivia Ruiz - La femme chocolat

Talentenshows zijn er in alle landen en allerlei soorten. Helaas niet allemaal even succesvol. In Nederland zien we een hoop deelnemers terug in musicals of de eo-jongerendag, of helemaal niet. In Frankrijk gaat het wat beter, daar halen nog wel eens ex-deelnemers de hitparade.
Zo ook Olivia Ruiz. In 2001 werd ze 4e in het programma Star Academy. En tja, daarna is ze toch wel een licht andere kant opgegaan, kan me in elk geval niet voorstellen dat ze haar hele band destijds ook bij zich had.
Accordeon en trompet zijn geen instrumenten die ik erg veel in mijn collectie tegenkom. Maar als je zelfs die rock'n'roll weet te maken, en in andere nummers ook nog regelmatig een klarinet, dan doe je wel iets goed.
En dus. Hoog tijd voor een Nederlandse doorbraak.

  zaterdag 18 juli 2009 @ 17:26:11 #252
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ps. jammer van plaats 1234. Daar hoort natuurlijk een live opname van de Ramones.
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1232 Undertones - You've got my number



You've got my number
Why don't you use it
You know my name
You won't abuse it

If you wanna wanna wanna wanna
Wanna have someone to talk to

I'll pick you up
In my car
Take you home
Its not far

If you wanna ...
Do it - do it - do it - do it

Why don't you ring my number ?
Why don't you ring my number now ?

Let's say goodbye
I couldn't stand it
You've got my number
Why don't you use it
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1231 Crowded House - Four Seasons In One Day

Weer een band die niet mag ontbreken. Beatlesque pop, schitterend tot uiting gebracht op met name het album Woodface.



Four seasons in one day
Lying in the depths of your imagination
Worlds above and worlds below
The sun shines on the black clouds hanging over the domain

Even when youre feeling warm
The temperature could drop away
Like four seasons in one day

Smiling as the shit comes down
You can tell a man from what he has to say
Everything gets turned around
And I will risk my neck again, again

You can take me where you will
Up the creek and through the mill
All the things you cant explain
Four seasons in one day

Blood dries up
Like rain, like rain
Fills my cup
Like four seasons in one day

It doesnt pay to make predictions
Sleeping on an unmade bed
Finding out wherever there is comfort there is pain
Only one step away
Like four seasons in one day

Blood dries up
Like rain, like rain
Fills my cup
Like four seasons in one day
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1230 PJ Harvey - Good Fortune

Heerlijk swingend nummer van tante Polly!



Threw my bad fortune
Of the top of
A tall building
I'd rather have done it with you
Your boy's smile
Five in the morning
Looked into your eyes
And I was really in love

In Chinatown
Hung over
You showed me
Just what I could do
Talking about
Time travel
And the meaning
Just what it was worth

And I feel like
Some bird of paradise
My bad fortune slipping away
And I feel the
Innocence of a child
Everybody's got something good to say

Things I once thought
Unbelievable
In my life
Have all taken place
When we walked through
Little Italy
I saw my reflection
Come right of your face

I paint pictures
To remember
You're too beautiful
To put into words
Like a gypsy
You dance in circles
All around me
And all over the world

And I feel like
Some bird of paradise
My bad fortune slipping away
And I feel the
Innocence of a child
Everybody's got something good to say

So I take my
Good fortune
And I fantasize
Of our leaving
Like some modern-day
Gypsy landslide
Like some modern day
Bonnie and Clyde

On the run again
On the run again
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1229 Neil Young - Ambulance Blues

Van het werkelijk uitstekende album On The Beach uit 1974. Van Neil krijgt men werkelijk nooit genoeg.



Back in the old folky days
The air was magic when we played.
The riverboat was rockin'
in the rain
Midnight was the time
for the raid.

Oh, Isabela, proud Isabela,
They tore you down and
plowed you under.
You're only real
with your make-up on
How could I see you
and stay too long?

All along the Navajo Trail,
Burn-outs stub their toes
on garbage pails.
Waitresses are cryin'
in the rain
Will their boyfriends
pass this way again?

Oh, Mother Goose,
she's on the skids
Shoe ain't happy,
neither are the kids.
She needs someone
that she can scream at
And I'm such a heel
for makin' her feel so bad.

I guess I'll call it
sickness gone
It's hard to say
the meaning of this song.
An ambulance can only
go so fast
It's easy to get buried
in the past
When you try to make
a good thing last.

I saw today
in the entertainment section
There's room at the top
for private detection.
To Mom and Dad
this just doesn't matter,
But it's either that
or pay off the kidnapper.

So all you critics sit alone
You're no better than me
for what you've shown.
With your stomach pump and
your hook and ladder dreams
We could get together
for some scenes.

I never knew a man
could tell so many lies
He had a different story
for every set of eyes.
How can he remember
who he's talkin' to?
'Cause I know it ain't me,
and I hope it isn't you.

Well, I'm up in T.O.
keepin' jive alive,
And out on the corner
it's half past five.
But the subways are empty
And so are the cafes.

Except for the Farmer's Market
And I still can hear him say:
You're all just pissin'
in the wind
You don't know it but you are.

And there ain't nothin'
like a friend
Who can tell you
you're just pissin'
in the wind.

I never knew a man
could tell so many lies
He had a different story
for every set of eyes
How can he remember
who he's talking to?
Cause I know it ain't me,
and hope it isn't you.
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1228: Runrig - Every river



Every river I try to cross
Every hill I try to climb
Every ocean I try to swim
Every road I try to find

You ask me to believe in magic
Expect me to commit suicide of the heart
You ask me to play this game without question
Raising the stakes on this shotgun roulette

But every river I try to cross
Every hill I try to climb
Every ocean I try to swim
Every road I try to find
All the ways of my life
I'd rather be with you
There's no way
Without you

You came to me like the ways of children
Simple as breathing; easy as air
Now the years hold no fears; like the wind they pass over
Loved, forgiven, washed and saved

Every river I try to cross
Every hill I try to climb
Every ocean I try to swim
Every road I try to find
All the ways of my life
I'd rather be with you
There's no way
Without you

Every river I try to cross
Every hill I try to climb
Every ocean I try to swim
Every road I try to find
All the ways of my life
I'd rather be with you
There's no way
Without you

Every river I try to cross (Every river)
Every hill I try to climb (Every hill)
Every ocean I try to swim (Every ocean)
Every road I try to find (Every road)
All the ways of my life (Ways of my life)
I'd rather be with you (Rather be with you)
There's no way
Without you

All the ways of my life
I'd rather be with you
There's no way
Without you (Without you)
No way without you
There's no way without you
At times like these, any fool can see
Any fool can see your love inside me
(Marillion - Neverland)
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1227 Florence + The Machine - Kiss With A Fist

Moordgriet!



you hit me once
i hit you back
you gave a kick
i gave a slap
you smashed a plate
over my head
then i set fire to our bed

you hit me once
i hit you back
you gave a kick
i gave a slap
you smashed a plate
over my head
then i set fire to our bed

My black eye casts no shadow
your red eye sees no pain
your slaps don't stick
your kicks don't hit
so we remain the same
blood sticks and
sweat drips
break the lock if it don't fit
a kick in the teeth is good for some
a kiss with a fist is better than none
a-woah a kiss with a fist is better than none

broke your jaw once before spilt your blood upon the floor
you broke my leg in return
sit back and watch the bed burn
well love sticks sweat drips
break the lock if it don't fit
a kick in the teeth is good for some
a kiss with a fist is better than none
a-woah a kiss woth a fist is better than none

you hit me once
i hit you back
you gave a kick
i gave a slap
you smashed a plate over my head
then i set fire to our bed

you hit me once
i hit you back
you gave a kick
i gave a slap
you smashed a plate over my head
then i set fire to our bed
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1226 The Clash - The Call Up

Een nummer waardoor je snapt waarom de eerste dance dj's uit de punkwereld kwamen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Call_Up



(sotto voce) To the Right Face! (yells)
Hup 2 3 4 Hup 2 3 4 Hup 2 3 4 (fades) Hup 2 3 4

It's up to you not to heed the call-up
You must not act the way you were brought up
Who knows the reasons why you have grown up?
Who knows the plans or why they were drawn up?

It's up to you not to heed the call-up
I don't wanna die!
It's up to you not to heed the call-up
I don't wanna kill!

For he who will die
Is he who will kill

Maybe I wanna see the wheatfields
Over Kiev and down to the (chorus) sea

It's up to you not to hear the call-up
I don't wanna die!
It's up to you not to hear the call-up
I don't wanna kill!

All the young people down the ages
They gladly marched... off to die
Proud city fathers used to watch them
Tears in their eyes

It's up to you not to heed the call-up
I don't wanna die!
It's up to you not to hear the call-up
I don't wanna kill!

For he who will die
Is he who will kill

(break)

There is a rose that I want to live for
Although, God knows, I may not have met her
There is a dance and I should be with her
There is a town - unlike any other

It's up to you not to hear the call-up
'Nnnn' you must not act the way you were brought up
Who gives you work an' why should you do it?
Fifty five minutes past eleven

There is a rose...

(chorus)
Hup 2 3 4 I love the Marine Corps!
Hup 2 3 4 I love the Marine Corps!
Hup 2 3 4 I love the Marine Corps!
Yeah...

It's up to you not to hear the call-up
It's up to you not to hear the call-up
Don't wanna die!
Don't wanna die!

There is a rose that I want to live for
It's up to you not to heed the call-up

Hup 2 3 4 I love the Marine Corps!
Hup 2 3 4 I love the Marine Corps!
Hup 2 3 4 I love the Marine Corps!
(fade)
  dinsdag 21 juli 2009 @ 21:40:37 #260
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1225 Juliette & the Licks - Hot Kiss

Vaak is het geen goed idee als een zanger(es) gaat acteren of als een acteur/actrice gaat zingen.
Maar soms heb je een Juliette Lewis en werkt het prima.

  woensdag 22 juli 2009 @ 13:17:42 #261
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1224 Tom Vek - I Ain't Saying My Goodbyes

Met dank aan de recommendations functie van Last.fm

Tranquillo
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1223 Mississippi John Hurt - Stack-o-Lee blues (1929)





Mississippi John Hurt was een blues artiest die in de jaren 20 muziek opnam maar nooit echt doorbrak bij het grote publiek. In de jaren 60 tijdens de folk revival werd hij her ontdekt en nam hij nog wat albums op. Persoonlijk heb ik nog nooit iemand gehoord die mooie kan zingen dan John Hurt.



Leuk stuk op wikipedia over dit nummer.
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1222 Sparklehorse - Homecoming Queen

Mark Linkous, de geluidsmagiër, maakte onder deze naam enkele schitterende albums, waarvan Vivadixiesubmarinetransmissionplot mijn favoriet is. Hier een nummer van dus!



A horse, a horse
My kingdom for a horse
Rattling on magnetic fields

Yes I did use up
The last box of sparklers
Before they went bad
Got wet or decayed

Homecoming queen, homecoming queen

Teeth what were sharp
Is ground down and dumb
My crooked spine becoming more brittle
What once grew straight
And tall t’ward the sun
Is absorbing back down
To dirt like a sponge

Homecoming queen, homecoming queen
Homecoming queen, homecoming queen

Denken we nog aan de Wiki?
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  woensdag 22 juli 2009 @ 20:42:50 #264
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1221 Spacemen 3 - Revolution

Tijd voor een bak herrie. Vroeger werd deze muziek ook bij indie gerekend. Ik heb het tenminste op een indieverzamelaar staan. Maar je mag ook shoegaze, noise of spacerock zeggen. De eerste band van Jason Pierce, later van Spiritualized.

  woensdag 22 juli 2009 @ 21:21:12 #265
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1220: King Crimson - Epitaph



The wall on which the prophets wrote
Is cracking at the seams.
Upon the instruments of death
The sunlight brightly gleams.
When every man is torn apart
With nightmares and with dreams,
Will no one lay the laurel wreath
As silence drowns the screams.

Confusion will be my epitaph.
As I crawl a cracked and broken path
If we make it we can all sit back
and laugh.
But I fear tomorrow I'll be crying,
Yes I fear tomorrow I'll be crying.

Between the iron gates of fate,
The seeds of time were sown,
And watered by the deeds of those
Who know and who are known;
Knowledge is a deadly friend
If no one sets the rules.
The fate of all mankind I see
Is in the hands of fools.

The wall on which the prophets wrote
Is cracking at the seams.
Upon the instruments of death
The sunlight brightly gleams.
When every man is torn apart
With nightmares and with dreams,
Will no one lay the laurel wreath
As silence drowns the screams.

Confusion will be my epitaph.
As I crawl a cracked and broken path
If we make it we can all sit back
and laugh.
But I fear tomorrow I'll be crying,
Yes I fear tomorrow I'll be crying.
Cryin.
At times like these, any fool can see
Any fool can see your love inside me
(Marillion - Neverland)
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1219 Fiona Apple - Criminal

Van haar debuutplaat, nog altijd het beste werk wat ze gemaakt heeft wat mij betreft.



I've been a bad, bad girl
I've been careless with a delicate man
And it's a sad, sad world
When a girl will break a boy just because she can

Don't you tell me to deny it
I've done wrong and I want to suffer for my sins
I've come to you 'cause I need guidance to be true
And I just don't know where I can begin

What I need is a good defense
'Cause I'm feeling like a criminal
And I need to be redeemed
To the one I've sinned against
Because he's all I ever knew of love

Heaven help me for the way I am
Save me from these evil deeds before I get them done
I know tomorrow brings the consequence at hand
But I keep living this day like the next will never come

Oh help me but don't tell me to deny it
I've got to cleanse myself of all these lies 'till I'm good enough for him
I've got a lot to lose and I'm bettin' high so I'm begging you
Before it ends just tell me where to begin

What I need is a good defense
'Cause I'm feeling like a criminal
And I need to be redeemed
To the one I've sinned against
Because he's all I ever knew of love

Let me know the way
Before there's hell to pay
Give me room to lay the law and let me go
I've got to make a play
To make my lover stay
So what would an angel say, the devil wants to know

What I need is a good defense
'Cause I'm feeling like a criminal
And I need to be redeemed
To the one I've sinned against
Because he's all I ever knew of looooooooooooooooooooooooooove
Yeah yeah yeah uhh uhh uhhhhhh...

Hey hey hey haaayyyyyyyyyyyyy yeahhhhhhh yeahhhhhhhhhh hiyee ehhh...
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1218 The Nips (aka The Nipple Erectors) - Vengeance

De eerste band van het genie en medisch wonder Shane MacGowan.



Well I remember the times you put me down on the floor
Spreading it around like a cheap little whore
But now you've finished with your fancy man
A skinny little runt from Birmingham

I want vengeance and I want it now
I want vengeance, gonna get it somehow
I'm gonna hit him, I'm gonna kill him
I'm gonna really make him pay for what he's done
I'm gonna hit him, I'm gonna kill him
Nobody spoils my fun

Well I was crying
But now I've stopped
And you were lying
The penny's dropped

So shut your mouth and lay on the bed
And when I'm finished with you, I'm gonna break his head
I'm gonna hit him, I'm gonna kill him
I'm gonna really make him pay for what he's done
I'm gonna hit him, I'm gonna kill him
Nobody spoils my fun

A Well I had my very last night with you
You pushed me too far and now we're through
You're running to the car and you think you're cute
But you're the kind of bird, that they ought to shoot

I want vengeance and I want it now
I want vengeance, gonna get it somehow
I'm gonna hit him, I'm gonna kill him
I'm gonna really make him pay for what he's done
I'm gonna hit him, I'm gonna kill him
Nobody spoils my fun

Well I was crying
Yeah, But now I've stopped
And you were lying
The penny's dropped

So shut your mouth and lay on the bed
And when I'm finished with you, I'm gonna break his head
I'm gonna hit him, I'm gonna kill him
I'm gonna really make him pay for what he's done
I'm gonna hit him, I'm gonna kill him
Nobody spoils my fun
Nobody spoils my fun

I want vengeance and I want it now
I want vengeance
  donderdag 23 juli 2009 @ 20:33:41 #268
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1217 Jethro Tull - Dun Ringill



Clear light on a slick palm
as I mis-deal the day
Slip the night from a shaved pack
make a marked card play
Call twilight hours down
from a heaven home
high above the highest bidder
for the good Lord's throne
In the wee hours I'll meet you
down by Dun Ringill -
watch the old gods play
by Dun Ringill

We'll wait in stone circles
'til the force comes through
lines joint in faint discord
and the Stormwatch brews
a concert of Kings
as the white sea snaps
at the heels of a soft prayer
whispered
In the wee hours I'll meet you
down by Dun Ringill -
take you quickly
by Dun Ringill
At times like these, any fool can see
Any fool can see your love inside me
(Marillion - Neverland)
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1216 The Monochrome Set - The Monochrome Set

Nog zo'n vergeten geniale post-punk band




I fascinate, infatuate
Emphatically
You're dreary, you're base, deary
Your face is weary for me

I'm heaven sent, so eloquent
And curiously
I entertain your tiny brain
So spuriously

The Monochrome Set, Monochrome Set, Monochrome Set
The Monochrome Set, Monochrome Set, Monochrome Set

I'm charming, dear, disarming, dear
Alarming to see
You're lazy, you're limp, baby
Your mind is crazy for me

My rhetoric, so magnetic
Aesthetically
I'll nominate you to abominate
Anticipate me

The Monochrome Set, Monochrome Set, Monochrome Set
The Monochrome Set, Monochrome Set, Monochrome Set

I captivate, enraptivate
Emphatically
You're funny, you're dead, honey
But you're always money to me

I'm adorable, you're deplorable
It's not a lot of fun
It's gruesome, but we're a twosome
So, hey, hey, hey, here we come

The Monochrome Set, Monochrome Set, Monochrome Set
The Monochrome Set, Monochrome Set, Monochrome Set
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1215 Mars Volta - Roulette dares (Haunt of)

Je ziet het helaas maar al te vaak. Men hoort een symfoplaat van acht minuten, hoort wat tempowisselinkjes, een jammerende gitaar of bombastisch orkest -bij voorkeur uit de jaren 70- en men bombardeert het toch een klassieker. Denk aan Queen, Meat Loaf of John Miles. Nu zal ik niet de fout maken lengte met kwaliteit te verwarren, maar dit is werkelijk een goede plaat. Van het debuutalbum De-loused in a Comatorium uit 2003.



Transient jet lag ecto mimed bison
This is the haunt of roulette dares
Ruse of metacarpi
Caveat emptor....to all that enter here
Open wrists talk back again
In the wounded of its skin
They'll pinprick the witness
In ritual contrition
The am trinity fell upon asphyxia-derailed
In the rattles of...
Made its way through the tracks
Of a snail slouching whisper
A half mass comute through umbilical blisters
Spector will lurk
Radar has gathered
Midnight nooses from boxcar cadavers
Exoskeletal junction at the railroad delayed
Exoskeletal junction at the railroad delayed
It's because this is
Cranial bleeding
Leaches train the living
Cursed are they who speak its name
Ruse of metacarpi
Caveat emptor to all that enter here
Exoskeletal junction at the railroad delayed
Exoskeletal junction at the railroad delayed
It's because this is
Ratteling the laughter
Hinges splintering inside
Bludgeoned to a saddle
Rang the cloister bell inside
inside
inside
Exoskeletal junction at the railroad delayed
Exoskeletal junction at the railroad delayed
it's because this is
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1214 - Presidents of the United States of America - Candy
Geweldige band en dit vind ik een van hun ondergewaardeerde nummers, daarom deze mooie plek in de top2000. En dan hun andere hits nog wat hoger mogen eindigen.



Sugar's only sweetness
Salt is ocean tears
And you were my only weakness
For years and years and years
You little yellow sweetie
You were hiding in a jar
Now my mind is gone completely
Take off the lid and there you are

You're my candy
Candy

Well the devil she made sweet candy
Took 6 days and nights to dream
On the 7th day she rested
Woke up early and made ice cream

Now the devil she must be a dentist
With deep jawbreaker eyes
Red rope hair gum drop lips
Cotton candy thighs

You're my candy
Candy

Chocolate lava stole my body
And aftertaste stole my mind
Left me dangling down defenseless
And then sweet candy she said goodbye

Now my teeth are worn and useless
My eyes too sunk to see
My tongue swole up to twice it's size
And all I wanna do is eat

Candy my candy
My candy my candy
Suckin' on my candy
There's a frood who really knows where his towel is.
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Op donderdag 23 juli 2009 22:01 schreef Drikske het volgende:
1215 Mars Volta - Roulette dares (Haunt of)

Je ziet het helaas maar al te vaak. Men hoort een symfoplaat van acht minuten, hoort wat tempowisselinkjes, een jammerende gitaar of bombastisch orkest -bij voorkeur uit de jaren 70- en men bombardeert het toch een klassieker. Denk aan Queen,
En wat is er mis met Queen?
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1213 Daniel Lanois - Jolie Louise

Vooral bekend als producer, maar hij maakte ook de schitterende plaat Acadie, recent in mooie deluxe versie heruitgebracht.



Ma jolie, how do you do?
Mon nom est Jean-Guy Thibault-Leroux
I come from east of Gatineau
My name is Jean-Guy, ma jolie

J'ai une maison a Lafontaine
where we can live, if you marry me
Une belle maison a Lafontaine
where we will live, you and me
Oh Louise, ma jolie Louise

Tous les matins au soleil
I will work 'til work is done
Tous les matins au soleil
I did work 'til work was done
And one day, the foreman said
"Jean-Guy, we must let you go"
Et pis mon nom, y est pas bon
at the mill anymore...
Oh Louise, I'm losing my head,
I'm losing my head

My kids are small, 4 and 3
et la bouteille, she's mon ami
I drink the rum 'tilI I can't see
It hides the shame Louise does not see
Carousel turns in my head,
and I can't hide, oh no, no, no, no
And the rage turned in my head
and Louise, I struck her down,
down on the ground
I'm losing my mind, I'm losing my mind

En Septembre '63
kids are gone, and so is Louise.
Ontario, they did go
near la ville de Toronto
Now my tears, they roll down,
tous les jours
And I remember the days,
and the promises that we made
Oh Louise, ma jolie Louise, ma jolie Louise.
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quote:
Op donderdag 23 juli 2009 23:59 schreef Siniti het volgende:

[..]

En wat is er mis met Queen?
Dat ze ooit begonnen zijn met platen uitbrengen
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1212 Billy Bragg - The Milkman of Human Kindness

Ik weet nog dat ik dit voor het eerst hoorde, midden jaren 80, de tijd van veel synthesizer en overgeproduceerde platen.
Deze man, alleen met een elektrische gitaar, maakte toen al veel indruk en blijft mooi



If you're lonely, i will call -
If you're poorly, i will send poetry
I love you
I am the milkman of human kindness
I will leave an extra pint
If you're sleeping, i will wait
If your bed is wet, i will dry your tears
I love you
I am the milkman of human kindness
I will leave an extra pint
Hold my hand for me i'm waking up
Hold my hand for me i'm waking up
Hold my hand for me i'm making up
Won't you hold my hand - i'm making up
If you are falling, i'll put out my hands
If you feel bitter, i will understand

I love you
I am the milkman of human kindness
I will leave an extra pint
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