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  zondag 30 november 2008 @ 10:46:17 #1
78918 SeLang
Black swans matter
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Recession: When the money goes, so does the toxic wife


Some women are like businessmen - utterly ruthless, and seeing a rich man as their career path

As the recession worsens, a lot of rich men are finding their gold-digging wives are taking to their heels

'You loser!" screamed Katie, aiming a vase at her husband. "You've destroyed my life,'' she continued, hurling it. "Just look at my hair, look at my nails! You loser, you jerk, you nobody."

Katie's husband, Jack, whose property portfolio disintegrated in the financial crash, had just told his wife that she would have to cut back on her thrice-weekly visits to Nicky Clarke, the nail salon in Harvey Nichols, and the oxygen facials, chemical peels and seaweed wraps at Space NK.

Not only that, but they no longer had the money to pay for an army of bullied Eastern Europeans to wait on her hand and foot.

Worse was to come – the brow-lift would have to be cancelled; her black Amex card would have to be snipped in half; and there was no way, he told her, that he could carry on spending £28,000 a year on Henry's school fees at Eton.

Chloe, too, would have to leave the marginally cheaper (only £25,000 pa) Wycombe Abbey immediately.

Such was the aggression and verbal and physical abuse that followed that Jack was left with cut lips and blood streaming from a broken nose.

Their eight-year-old child, not yet at boarding school, sat cowering in a corner and dialling 999. When they arrived, they had to restrain Katie forcibly from attacking her husband.

An extreme and isolated example of the global economic meltdown hitting the £1 million home? Sadly no. When the super-rich feel the pinch, inevitably, the Toxic Wife heads off.

The Toxic Wife, first identified in these pages almost two years ago, is a particular and terrifying species.

Not to be confused with the stay-at-home mother who selflessly devotes herself to the upbringing of her children, with all the housework and domestic chores that entails, the Toxic Wife is the woman who gives up work as soon as she marries, ostensibly to create a stable home environment for any offspring that might come along, but who then employs large numbers of staff to do all the domestic work she promised to undertake, leaving her with little to do all day except shop, lunch and luxuriate.

Having married her wealthy husband with his considerable salary uppermost in her mind, the Toxic Wife simply does not do "for richer, for poorer". Little Dorrit, she ain't.

Indeed, lawyers and financial advisers have reported a 50 per cent increase in the number of divorce inquiries since the financial markets collapsed in September.

A recent survey conducted by community website makefriendsonline revealed that a third of 10,000 respondents believe that financial hardship will cause a relationship to fail, while matrimonial law specialists Mishcon de Reya have reported up to 300 per cent more inquiries.

Numbers have risen significantly as couples seek to reach an agreement before the recession tightens its grip. But for the Toxic Wife, "agreement" is the last thing on her mind.

There are countless stories of them acting in the most bizarre and inhumane ways. For gold-diggers are materialistic to such an extent that they are emotionally detached from other people.

There's an inability to empathise with another human being. They certainly don't ''do'' conscience. Money, on the other hand, they both love and understand.

''I told my wife to stop this organic food malarkey,'' said Jeremy, a beleaguered hedge-fund manager, another man who fell for an extremely beautiful yet extravagant woman.

"She went ballistic. Organic Hass avocados cost £1.75 each and she wanted me to buy six of them! In the end, I just peeled off the labels that said they were certified organic and put them on ordinary avocados – she didn't notice the difference. I did the same with bananas…''

''So why did she walk out on you?'' I asked.

''She has a very high standard of living,'' he said. ''She's never taken the Tube or a bus; it's always taxis. And she likes to eat out a lot, at the best restaurants, and she likes to buy expensive gifts for people she wants to impress.

"As soon as the financial wobbles started, she must have joined some upmarket dating agency because somehow she's found another very rich man pretty damn fast.''

Another case is Sasha who, for the past few months, had been gloating about the £3.4 million chalet in Verbier her husband was about to exchange on, how she'd managed to hire a high-society interior decorator to do it up for a song (''more an anthem, actually", she'd giggled) and how much she was looking forward to a white, snowy Christmas there.

At the last minute, Husband pulled out of the deal. Never mind that he had lost his lucrative job in the City, she felt he had deliberately traumatised her and is suing him for divorce on the grounds of mental cruelty. '

'She's got the personality of an overindulged infant,'' he sighed, ''a spoilt brat who starts screaming the moment a toy is taken away.''

In the grown-up world that toy is money and what it can buy: status, power, glamour and arrogance. It also has a way of making these particular women precious. ''Because I'm worth it'' has become the catch-all legitimiser for any personal indulgence.

According to Susie Ambrose, a marital psychotherapist and CEO of Seventy-Thirty, an upmarket introduction company that takes its name from the work versus free time balance, there has been an unprecedented demand from married women recently.

''We are being targeted by women on the fence between leaving their husbands who are on the brink of losing their wealth, and wanting to meet someone extremely rich straight away,'' she says.

Like a frog, the Toxic Wife needs to hop safely on to another lily pad, and a rich one, before leaving her husband. She won't stand on her own two feet. And finding a job is quite beneath her.

Yet Susie Ambrose thinks such women ''are like businessmen – utterly ruthless". The rich man is the career path, the meal ticket, and it doesn't matter how fat, old, balding or unattractive he is – it's solely about money.

''These particular women know how to fake love,'' adds Ambrose. ''They're actually very good at it.''

She now has a waiting-list for her life-coaching sessions – a course costs between £10,000-£60,000 – on how to distinguish a gold-digger from a genuine woman.

Men, it seems, have got wise to the potential Toxic Wife and don't want to end up with someone who is going to bolt the moment they experience some financial bad luck.

For men, divorce is one of the most expensive trials in life – emotionally and financially. As the joke doing the rounds among City men goes: "This credit crunch is worse than a divorce. I've lost half my net worth and I still have a wife."

But this is no joke. I've seen at first hand how, as soon as money disappears, so does love.

Olivia and Richard had a set of beautiful and expensively conceived twins (we're talking around £30,000 worth of IVF treatments for the right gender – she joked how she would send them back if they were girls), a fabulous house, great holidays several times a year, two nannies and a lifestyle of which most of us lesser mortals could only fantasise.

How we laughed when Richard, with admiration in his voice, mentioned at a drinks party last year that he'd turned to his wife in the middle of the night and asked her if she'd still love him if he lost all his money.

''F--- no!'' had been her answer. Such a feisty, amusing (and obviously joky) response delighted him. But today he is scratching his head with abject dejection. She had meant it.

She left him the moment he lost his senior post at an investment bank and immediately hooked up with another rich man.

Worse, she took their boys with her and he rarely sees them because she has since moved to America to start afresh with her new, unsuspecting milch-cow.

As most of us are battening down the hatches and finding inventive ways to cope with the new austerity, some unfortunate men have not only lost their jobs, they are also having the scales ripped from their eyes.

The horrible truth has dawned: they married a woman who wanted them solely for their money.

Bron: Telegraph.co.uk
Een toxic wife is het laatste wat je nu op je balance sheet wilt hebben.
Zelf ben ik trouwens van mening dat een vrouw sowieso een positieve cashflow moet opleveren.
"If you want to make God laugh, tell him about your plans"
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  PR/Manusje van alles zondag 30 november 2008 @ 10:54:14 #2
148800 crew  Surveillance-Fiets
Toezicht is gezond!
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"This credit crunch is worse than a divorce. I've lost half my net worth and I still have a wife."
Ik denk meer dat je als nieuwsposter een geile egocentrische narcist moet zijn, die een flinke stijve krijgt van alle berichten die ie van zijn eigen hand ziet op de FP, zo! ©yvonne
Beste nieuwsbericht ooit op de FOK!frontpage!
  zondag 30 november 2008 @ 11:01:36 #3
54884 Yi-Long
Snorloze Zeiksnor
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Tja... ik zou zo'n verwend/verwaand wijf niet eens in mijn leven toelaten. Ik snap ook niet goed dat er uberhaubt mannen zijn die zulk gedrag pikken.
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Je trouwt een trophy-wife, en vervolgens ben je verbaasd dat ze zich ook als zodanig gedraagt. Je bent zo slim om zo rijk te worden, en vervolgens ben je zo dom om dit niet aan te zien komen.
I'm just a Soul whose Intentions are Good
  zondag 30 november 2008 @ 11:31:37 #5
27257 qwerty_x
Tudo jóia !!
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Op zondag 30 november 2008 10:46 schreef SeLang het volgende:

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Zelf ben ik trouwens van mening dat een vrouw sowieso een positieve cashflow moet opleveren.
jij stelt je doelen wel erg hoog
wel realistisch blijven aub
zonnig Brasil
  Admin zondag 30 november 2008 @ 11:35:57 #6
2589 crew  yvonne
On(t)deugend
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Die kerels wisten dit toch van te voren?
Eigen schuld dikke bult.
Yvonne riep ergens: Static is gewoon Static, je leeft met hem of niet.
Geen verborgen agenda's, trouw, grote muil, lief hartje, bang voor bloed, scheld FA's graag uit voor lul.


Op dinsdag 26 oktober 2021 16:46 schreef Elan het volgende:
Hier sta ik dan weer niet van te kijken Zelfs het virus is bang voor jou.
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Als je goed geld hebt moet je dit soort dingen ook zakelijk aanpakken.
Derhalve vind ik die kerels die hieraan ten onder gaan buitengewone losers. Je ziet het namelijk 9 van de 10 keer aankomen met zulke vrouwen.
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Op zondag 30 november 2008 11:28 schreef djenneke het volgende:
Je trouwt een trophy-wife, en vervolgens ben je verbaasd dat ze zich ook als zodanig gedraagt. Je bent zo slim om zo rijk te worden, en vervolgens ben je zo dom om dit niet aan te zien komen.
Indeed.
  zondag 30 november 2008 @ 11:52:29 #8
54884 Yi-Long
Snorloze Zeiksnor
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Op zondag 30 november 2008 11:35 schreef yvonne het volgende:
Die kerels wisten dit toch van te voren?
Eigen schuld dikke bult.
Dit soort vrouwen zouden dan natuurlijk ook niet verrast moeten zijn, en niet mogen klagen, wanneer hun mannetje ze na hun 40ste inruilt voor een lekker fris spontaan 20 jarig mokkeltje
  Admin zondag 30 november 2008 @ 12:28:01 #9
2589 crew  yvonne
On(t)deugend
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Op zondag 30 november 2008 11:52 schreef Yi-Long het volgende:

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Dit soort vrouwen zouden dan natuurlijk ook niet verrast moeten zijn, en niet mogen klagen, wanneer hun mannetje ze na hun 40ste inruilt voor een lekker fris spontaan 20 jarig mokkeltje
Ja, weer een Golddigger.
Yvonne riep ergens: Static is gewoon Static, je leeft met hem of niet.
Geen verborgen agenda's, trouw, grote muil, lief hartje, bang voor bloed, scheld FA's graag uit voor lul.


Op dinsdag 26 oktober 2021 16:46 schreef Elan het volgende:
Hier sta ik dan weer niet van te kijken Zelfs het virus is bang voor jou.
  zondag 30 november 2008 @ 12:29:52 #10
78918 SeLang
Black swans matter
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De truuk is dat je ze al hebt geneukt voordat ze erachter komen dat er bij jou niets valt te halen.
"If you want to make God laugh, tell him about your plans"
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Ik snap SeLang.. hij zet ze gewoon achter het raam
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Ik kan me eigenlijk lastig voorstellen dat vrouwen daadwerkelijk om het geldaspect een relatie aanwillen. Hoe gaat dat eigenlijk in zijn werking? Wordt dat in de opvoeding meegegeven of is het biologisch bepaald?
Ain't nothing to it but to do it.
Greece
  zondag 30 november 2008 @ 14:04:27 #13
68576 eleusis
fokked op kidz
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Zowel opvoeding als aanleg I guess. Als je alles altijd maar aangereikt krijgt schat je het niet op waarde.
Ik in een aantal worden omschreven: Ondernemend | Moedig | Stout | Lief | Positief | Intuïtief | Communicatief | Humor | Creatief | Spontaan | Open | Sociaal | Vrolijk | Organisator | Pro-actief | Meedenkend | Levensgenieter | Spiritueel
  zondag 30 november 2008 @ 14:44:10 #14
54884 Yi-Long
Snorloze Zeiksnor
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Op zondag 30 november 2008 13:34 schreef Mendeljev het volgende:
Ik kan me eigenlijk lastig voorstellen dat vrouwen daadwerkelijk om het geldaspect een relatie aanwillen. Hoe gaat dat eigenlijk in zijn werking? Wordt dat in de opvoeding meegegeven of is het biologisch bepaald?
Misschien snappen sommigen mensen niet echt wat 'liefde' is, of houden ze gewoon altijd standaard meer van zichzelf dan van wie dan ook, en zullen ze altijd, in alles, alleen in eigen belang handelen.
En sommige mensen denken ook echt dat ze het verdienen om alles te krijgen.
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Ze hebben vast al een keer op Fok gestaan, maar ik moet meteen aan deze posts op Craigslist denken :
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What am I doing wrong?

Okay, I'm tired of beating around the bush. I'm a beautiful
(spectacularly beautiful) 25 year old girl. I'm articulate and classy.
I'm not from New York. I'm looking to get married to a guy who makes at
least half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but keep in mind
that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don't think
I'm overreaching at all.

Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives? Could
you send me some tips? I dated a business man who makes average around
200 - 250. But that's where I seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000 won't get
me to central park west. I know a woman in my yoga class who was married
to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and she's not as pretty as
I am, nor is she a great genius. So what is she doing right? How do I
get to her level?

Here are my questions specifically:

- Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics- bars,
restaurants, gyms

-What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won't hurt my
feelings

-Is there an age range I should be targeting (I'm 25)?

- Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the upper east
side so plain? I've seen really 'plain jane' boring types who have
nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I've seen drop dead
gorgeous girls in singles bars in the east village. What's the story
there?

- Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows - lawyer, investment
banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where do they
hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out?

- How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for
MARRIAGE ONLY

Please hold your insults - I'm putting myself out there in an honest
way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I'm being up front
about it. I wouldn't be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn't
able to match them - in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping a
nice home and hearth.

it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial
interests
PostingID: 432279810

THE ANSWER
Dear Pers-431649184:

I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully
about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your predicament.
Firstly, I'm not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your
bill; that is I make more than $500K per year. That said here's how I
see it.

Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and simple a
crappy business deal. Here's why. Cutting through all the B.S., what you
suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party and I bring
my money. Fine, simple. But here's the rub, your looks will fade and my
money will likely continue into perpetuity...in fact, it is very likely
that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won't
be getting any more beautiful!

So, in economic terms you are a depreciating asset and I am an earning
asset. Not only are you a depreciating asset, your depreciation
accelerates! Let me explain, you're 25 now and will likely stay pretty
hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins in
earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you!

So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a buy
and hold...hence the rub...marriage. It doesn't make good business sense
to "buy you" (which is what you're asking) so I'd rather lease. In case
you think I'm being cruel, I would say the following. If my money were
to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an out. It's
as simple as that. So a deal that makes sense is dating, not marriage.

Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets. So,
I wonder why a girl as "articulate, classy and spectacularly beautiful"
as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy. I find it hard to
believe that if you are as gorgeous as you say you are that the $500K
hasn't found you, if not only for a tryout.

By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money and then
we wouldn't need to have this difficult conversation.

With all that said, I must say you're going about it the right way.
Classic "pump and dump."
I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of
lease, let me know.
  zondag 30 november 2008 @ 18:34:04 #16
78918 SeLang
Black swans matter
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Op zondag 30 november 2008 17:53 schreef Waterhouse het volgende:
Ze hebben vast al een keer op Fok gestaan, maar ik moet meteen aan deze posts op Craigslist denken :
[..]
Geweldig!
Vooral de reactie van die 500K+ man
"If you want to make God laugh, tell him about your plans"
Mijn reisverslagen
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I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of
lease, let me know.
Ge-ni-aal!
Ain't nothing to it but to do it.
Greece
  zondag 30 november 2008 @ 22:17:39 #18
37431 Lemmeb
accountabilabuddiable
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" Classic "pump and dump." "

Money is short, times are hard, here's my fucking business card!
"I never let my schooling interfere with my education." — Mark Twain
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Op zondag 30 november 2008 17:53 schreef Waterhouse het volgende:
Ze hebben vast al een keer op Fok gestaan, maar ik moet meteen aan deze posts op Craigslist denken :
[..]


Prachtig!
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''She has a very high standard of living,'' he said. ''She's never taken the Tube or a bus; it's always taxis. And she likes to eat out a lot, at the best restaurants, and she likes to buy expensive gifts for people she wants to impress.
zou je uberhaupt wel zo iemand willen
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"As soon as the financial wobbles started, she must have joined some upmarket dating agency because somehow she's found another very rich man pretty damn fast.''
Het kan alleen maar op deze manier werken. Die gasten hebben ecth geen tijd om te daten, die zijn te druk met werk. Wat sneu. Wil je zo aan je vrouw komen?

Verder is dit topic natuurlijk worthless without pics. Neem deze nou
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I'm a beautiful (spectacularly beautiful) 25 year old girl
eerst zien dan geloven
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it is very likely that my income increases
nou nou

[ Bericht 7% gewijzigd door TubewayDigital op 01-12-2008 05:27:08 ]
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Op maandag 1 december 2008 05:17 schreef TubewayDigital het volgende:
Verder is dit topic natuurlijk worthless without pics. Neem deze nou
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Het gaat slecht, maar verder gaat het goed.
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Op zondag 30 november 2008 13:34 schreef Mendeljev het volgende:
Ik kan me eigenlijk lastig voorstellen dat vrouwen daadwerkelijk om het geldaspect een relatie aanwillen. Hoe gaat dat eigenlijk in zijn werking? Wordt dat in de opvoeding meegegeven of is het biologisch bepaald?
goede vraag,
Denk dat het biologisch bepaald is, net zoals eigenlijk je hele katakter., blijkbaar is er een gennetje minder bij trouw en geweten.
Er lopen er zoveel rond, die alles voor het geld doen, gezinnen in de steek laten om beter te kunnen.
Zolang er blijkbaar vraag en aanbod is, zal het altijd wel doorgaan.
Maar enig plezier is er wel, als het gaat zoals plaatje boven, zo komt boontje om zijn loontje.
In dit geval dus alletwee de partijen.
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Op zondag 30 november 2008 13:34 schreef Mendeljev het volgende:
Ik kan me eigenlijk lastig voorstellen dat vrouwen daadwerkelijk om het geldaspect een relatie aanwillen. Hoe gaat dat eigenlijk in zijn werking? Wordt dat in de opvoeding meegegeven of is het biologisch bepaald?
Het heeft zijn wortel in de biologie. Het instinct van een mannetje is om zijn genen wijd en zijd te verbreiden; het instinct van een vrouwtje is om een mannetje te zoeken dat voor goede 'resources' zorgt voor haar en haar nageslacht.
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Op zondag 30 november 2008 11:28 schreef djenneke het volgende:
Je trouwt een trophy-wife, en vervolgens ben je verbaasd dat ze zich ook als zodanig gedraagt. Je bent zo slim om zo rijk te worden, en vervolgens ben je zo dom om dit niet aan te zien komen.
idd
1/10 Van de rappers dankt zijn bestaan in Amerika aan de Nederlanders die zijn voorouders met een cruiseschip uit hun hongerige landen ophaalde om te werken op prachtige plantages.
"Oorlog is de overtreffende trap van concurrentie."
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Ik snap zulke domme mensen trouwens echt niet. Bouw je je hele leven op het succes behalen door het doen van slimme investeringen, ga je alsnog de mist in op het moment dat je een paar tieten ziet. Kansloos.
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