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Third undersea cable reportedly cut between Sri Lanka, Suez
Bron : MarketWatch

DUBAI (Zawya Dow Jones)--A third undersea fibre optic cable running through the Suez to Sri Lanka was cut Friday, said a Flag official.

Two other fiber optic cables owned by Flag Telecom and consortium SEA-ME-WE 4 located near Alexandria, Egypt, were damaged Wednesday leading to a slowdown in Internet and telephone services in the Middle East and South Asia.

"We had another cut today between Dubai and Muscat three hours back. The cable was about 80G capacity, it had telephone, Internet data, everything," one Flag official, who declined to be named, told Zawya Dow Jones.

The cable, known as Falcon, delivers services to countries in the Mediterranean and Gulf region, he added.

"It may take sometime to fix the cut but we are rerouting the traffic to another cable in the U.K. and U.S., the bandwidth utilization will go down," the official said.

There are conflicting reports of how the two Alexandria cables were cut. Oman's largest telecom, Omantel, said a tropical storm caused the damage while DU:AI, the United Arab Emirates' second largest telecom, said the cables were cut due to ships dragging their anchors. "It's ship anchoring," said the Flag official.

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Op zaterdag 2 februari 2008 21:27 schreef ShaoliN het volgende:
Is het niet een opvallende plek om met een Amerikaans bootje te gaan vingeren? Lijkt me nogal riskante operatie, en derhalve nogal onwaarschijnlijk.

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Op zaterdag 2 februari 2008 21:27 schreef ShaoliN het volgende:
Is het niet een opvallende plek om met een Amerikaans bootje te gaan vingeren? Lijkt me nogal riskante operatie, en derhalve nogal onwaarschijnlijk.

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Op zondag 3 februari 2008 00:00 schreef gronk het volgende:
DH: Domme vraag: waar staat BNW bij jou voor?

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Cutting Cables, Lighting Fuses

dailyscare.com
By Peter Chamberlin

A third undersea cable has been cut, effectively eliminating the Internet in the Middle East. But according to CNN that cable outage does not extend to Israel, Lebanon and Iraq.

Is it a coincidence that these three countries, who represent the next phase of the war on terrorism, were spared in the communications blackout that is affecting the rest of the Middle East? With the reemergence of the shadowy Fatah Al Islam organization, which has been linked to Saudi Prince Bandar, Saad Al-Hariri, the Mossad and neocon Elliot Abrams, it becomes clear that the pre-invasion of Lebanon scenario from last summer has nearly been reset. Bush laid claim to Lebanon with his recent executive order criminalizing criticism of US/Israeli actions in Lebanon, just as he did with the previous one on Iraq. These two orders claimed that the entire war of terror hinged on these sideshows, declaring that failure in either represents “an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States.”

It is obvious to the casual observer that things are really starting to heat-up in Lebanon, with the recent attack upon a US Embassy vehicle, the car-bombing of the Hariri investigator, even another fake Osama bin Laden video about Lebanon. The assassination of Lebanese investigator Capt. Wissam Eid, who reportedly suspected Israeli involvement in recent assassinations blamed on Syria, such as Rafik Hariri, is very likely another Mossad false flag attack, carried-out to entertain the gullible sheep of the United States.

The news of the multiple acts of cable sabotage are clear proof that a hostile force is doing its best to isolate the greater Middle East region (all the way to India) from the rest of the world. With the Internet down, it will be impossible for anyone to transmit video evidence out of the visually-embargoed zone, except for those who have satellite uplinks, like the major news networks, who are already under Zionist control. The depth of these cables means that they can only be reached by submarine or deep submersibles, means that it could not have been done by al Qaida the “toilet,” which doesn’t have a navy, or a submarine. The cable cutting had to have been the work of state terrorists.

This sabotage Friday followed on the heels of another attack on two other submarine cables, which took place Wednesday, 5 miles off the Mediterranean coast of Alexandria, Egypt. The cable cut at 05:59 GMT Friday, 34.8 miles off the coast of Dubai, belonged to the same British FLAG network (FALCON), whose main line connecting Europe to Asia was severed Wednesday along with SEA-ME-WE 4, a competitor’s cable which served as systems back-up. Both went through the Suez Canal on their way to India, Sri Lanka and Pakistan, as well as across Egypt (land segment), where it cut across North Africa to Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco. The FALCON circuit that was taken down Friday, circled around the Persian Gulf, picking-up the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, and the other Gulf States. Here is an interactive map from the FLAG home site, detailing the route of the FALCON line. Here is the map provided by the 16 nation SEA-ME-WE 4 consortium.

Saudi Arabia claims to have had another separate cut, which it says it has already repaired, using a submarine, accounting for Internet rumors of a fourth cut cable and the otherwise unexplainable restoration of their service and no one else, except for their Gulf State buddies. The Saudi newspaper article is obvious disinformation. Once again the Saudis are trying to distance themselves from the results of their collusion with the Israeli and US designs upon their Muslim brothers. The FLAG site explains that the Saudi service was restored by FLAG, using terrestrial routes.

FLAG has arranged part of the Restoration capacity via terrestrial route between the landing stations in Al Khobar and Jeddah in Saudi Arabia. This was executed with excellent cooperation by Integrated Telecom Company which is the Landing Party of FALCON system in Saudi Arabia.

Some of the circuits of Qatar Telecom (Q-Tel), Ministry of Communications Kuwait and Du, UAE that were severely affected have been restored.

Since Israel still has Internet, wouldn't the editors of the major newspapers there normally do their best to get such a news scoop? Neither the Jerusalem Post nor Haaretz has anything at all to say about the sabotaged cables on their sites. A search for undersea cables on both sites reveals nothing. Something very bad is in the air. Normally the Israeli press is the favored medium for taunting the Arabs’ misfortune. Both papers, which were used to disseminate the disinformation about the recent air attack upon Syria, are eerily silent about what is now going down.

In addition to the escalating psyops operation that is being directed at Lebanon and Syria, Israeli leaders have stepped-up their unending war of words being directed at Iran. PM Olmert used the celebration of “Holocaust Day” to announce to the world (in an off-hand manner) that Israel was ready to act against Iran on its own (forcing the US to honor Bush’s commitments to defend Israel, no matter what).

“Israel could not afford to stand by while other nations called for its annihilation... the Jewish state must defend itself against calls premised on zealous, murderous ideology, a tyrannical terror-supporting regime that recklessly aspires for regional hegemony, and a malicious program for developing weapons of mass destruction." - Jerusalem Post

According to a Washington Post interview with Defense Minister Barak, Iran has already “gone beyond the Manhattan Project,”

"We suspect they are probably already working on warheads for ground-to-ground missiles," - PressTV

As if Barak’s charges (if they were true) of Iran attempting to fit existing nuclear warheads to its long-range missiles wasn’t sufficient grounds for a pre-emptive strike, Israel has recently opened another line of attempted justification for its coming aggression, by announcing that they have evidence that Iranian rockets have been launched from Gaza into Israel.

The campaign to pump-up war fever on the home front started building to a crescendo in the Jerusalem Post, on Jan 29, when they ran this article, “IDF beefs up forces to thwart terror cells which left Gaza.” The article brought into the cold light of day the ancient Zionist plan to violently colonize all of “Greater Israel”, intending to justify an assault into the Sinai, where, it is claimed:

“as many as 20 cells may be trying to organize in the Sinai to use it as what one officer in the security services described as a platform to launch significant attacks on targets in Israel...In recent days the IDF has reinforced its troops along the Egyptian border. Last Thursday, Route 10, which runs along the border from Ovda to Kerem Shalom, was closed to civilian traffic and Israelis were warned to return immediately from resorts in the Sinai Peninsula. One day later the IDF decided to temporarily close tourist areas near the border.”

This article was an offhand admission that Israel has an immediate intention is to finish Gaza, under the continuing ruse of “fighting terrorism,” setting the stage for another messianic rabbi to speak-out, showing the world the only acceptable “final solution” to Israel’s “Palestinian problem.”

“Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi Yona Metzger has been quoted as calling for Gazans to be transferred to the Sinai Peninsula, to a Palestinian state which he said could be constructed for them in the desert.” - Haaretz

The final solution – here we go again.

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Third Undersea Cable Cut
Posted by ScuttleMonkey on Friday February 01, @02:47PM
from the someone-doesn't-like-connect-the-dots dept.

Many readers are reporting that another undersea fiber optic cable has been cut, apparently caused by another wayward anchor. It looks like Iran has completely lost Internet connectivity."

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Undersea internet cable cut in Middle East – Should Iran be worried?
americanchronicle


By Ian Brockwell
February 02, 2008
There has been some concern that the undersea internet cables, that have been cut recently, are perhaps no accident?

The first incident happened 8km from Alexandria in Egypt, which involved 2 cables apparently alongside each other. According to initial reports, the cables may have been "snapped" by a ship´s anchor.

Whilst this explanation is certainly a possibility, it seems a strange coincidence that barely two days later another cable is cut, this time 56km from Dubai in the Persian Gulf. There is even rumor of a fourth cable being damaged, but this has not been confirmed.

The countries most affected by the damaged cables are Egypt, India and the Middle East (in particular Iran). Israel and Iraq, as far as we can tell, were not affected by this problem as they use an alternative route for this service.

Cables involved in the "breaks" belong to companies connected to Reliance Communication Ventures, where Anil Ambani has a 66.75% interest. His father (Dhirubhai Ambani) originally founded the company and it is a classical rags to riches story.

Dhirubhai Ambani started with absolutely nothing, but developed a company that was a huge success. Questions were raised about how Dhirubhai managed to raise so much cash to do this, and this appears to be the result of a "Non-Resident Indian" investing Rs. 220 million in Reliance during 1982-1983. Dhirubhai has been accused of "manipulating" government policies and was known to be a "king-maker" in government elections (enjoying a certain amount of media protection). He was also involved in other business interests, including the oil industry.

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Op zondag 3 februari 2008 18:41 schreef Resonancer het volgende:
Another undersea Internet cable damaged in Mideast: Indian firm.
http://malaysia.news.yaho(...)nternet-558302b.html

Hoeveel zijn er nu in totaal stuk ?

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Op zondag 3 februari 2008 22:00 schreef ChOas het volgende:
- of niet -

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Op zondag 3 februari 2008 22:04 schreef gronk het volgende:

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Goed lezen doet wonderen

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Spy agency taps into undersea cable
By Neil Jr., News.com
Published on ZDNet News: May 23, 2001 12:00:00 AM

WASHINGTON--For decades, the National Security Agency did most of its spying by plucking information out of thin air. With a global network of listening stations and satellites, the NSA eavesdropped on phone conversations in Saddam Hussein's bunker, snatched Soviet missile-launch secrets and once caught Brezhnev in his limousine chatting about his mistress.

The NSA's task was relatively simple then because most international phone-and-data traffic moved via satellites or microwave towers. The agency sucked up those signals and sorted through them with supercomputers. Few of its eavesdroppers risked life or limb, and those they spied upon were often none the wiser.

But today the NSA's snooping capabilities are in jeopardy, undermined by advances in telecommunications technology. Much of the information the agency once gleaned from the airwaves now travels in the form of light beams through fiber-optic cables crisscrossing continents and ocean floors. That shift has forced the NSA to seek new ways to gather intelligence--including tapping undersea cables, a technologically daunting, physically dangerous and potentially illegal task.

In the mid-1990s, the NSA installed one such tap, say former intelligence officials familiar with the covert project. Using a special spy submarine, they say, agency personnel descended hundreds of feet into one of the oceans and sliced into a fiber-optic cable. The mixed results of the experiment--particularly the agency's inability to make sense of the vast flood of data unleashed by the tap--show that America's pre-eminent spy service has huge challenges to overcome if it hopes to keep from going deaf in the digital age.

Details of the NSA cable-tapping project are sketchy. Individuals who confirm the tap won't specify where or when it occurred. It isn't known whether the cable's operator detected the intrusion, though former NSA officials say they believe it went unnoticed. Nor is it known whether the NSA has attempted other taps since. Efforts to intercept all sorts of signals--ranging from military radar to international phone calls--are among the most highly classified U.S. government operations. Leaking information about interception methods is a federal crime punishable by imprisonment.

Too much to handle
In an interview, Air Force Lt. Gen. Michael Hayden, the NSA's director, laughed when asked whether the NSA had tapped undersea cables. "I'm not going to sit here and dissuade you from your views," he said. But he suggested that access isn't the problem. Rather, he said, the sheer volume and variety of today's communications means "there's simply too much out there, and it's too hard to understand."

Veterans of the undersea fiber-optic cable business say an undersea tap would strain the limits of technology, and cable operators aren't happy that the NSA may have pulled one off. "We don't believe this is possible, but assuming it was, there's no way we want someone trying to get into our cables," says Frank Denniston, chief technical officer for London-based Flag Telecom Holdings Ltd., one of the half-dozen or so companies that dominate the industry.

"It's our job to keep the data on our cables as safe and secure as possible," Denniston adds. "Any tap would automatically create a weakness and could bring down the entire system."

Undersea taps would pose tricky legal issues for the agency, too. For example, U.S. law forbids the NSA to intentionally intercept and process the phone calls and e-mails of U.S. citizens without court approval. Such communications make up a sizable slice of undersea cable traffic.

Some outside analysts and U.S. intelligence officials think the NSA should abandon such efforts in favor of more narrowly targeted intelligence-gathering efforts. One intelligence official estimates that tapping all the world's undersea cables, assuming it could be done, would cost more than $2 billion a year. And no one knows whether the NSA will ever have enough computing power to analyze the resulting gusher of digital data.

Even so, the agency has been pushing ahead. At General Dynamics' Electric Boat shipyard in Groton, Conn., the Navy is deep into a five-year, $1 billion retrofit of the USS Jimmy Carter, a nuclear-powered vessel that intelligence experts say will be the premier U.S. spy sub when it hits the seas in 2004. Among its many planned features, says one former official familiar with the project: state-of-the-art technology for undersea fiber-optic taps.

The NSA's Lt. Gen. Hayden and Navy officials decline to comment on the USS Jimmy Carter's mission.

New Jersey to Britain
In the late 1980s, satellites and microwave towers still carried more than 90 percent of all international voice-and-data traffic, including diplomatic cables. Most were easy pickings for the NSA's spy satellites and earthbound listening stations scattered from Japan and Australia to the moors of England. Back then, the agency also found it relatively easy to tap the kind of low-capacity copper lines that carried phone calls across oceans.

All that began to change in 1988, when AT&T Corp. completed the world's first transoceanic fiber-optic cable. Called TAT-8, the cable snaked more than 3,000 miles along the Atlantic floor from New Jersey to Britain. Its two fibers, running through a cable as narrow as a man's wrist, could carry nearly 40,000 phone conversations at once, five times the capacity of the best undersea copper cables and comparable to all the trans-Atlantic voice traffic then handled by satellites.

The first trans-Pacific fiber-optic cable entered service in 1991. A 17,000-mile-long Flag Telecom cable connecting Europe with North Africa, the Middle East, Southeast Asia and Japan came on line in 1997. And Russia and China began laying thousands of miles of fiber, depriving the NSA of entire time zones of once easily accessible transmissions.

The NSA recognized from the start that fiber optics could be a problem. In early 1989, the agency assembled a team of researchers in a small warren of labs at its headquarters in Fort Meade, Md. Other researchers fanned out to corporate research centers to bone up on the new technology. Their mission, according to one former NSA researcher who worked on it, was to find a way to get inside fiber-optic cables and secretly siphon off the data moving through them.

Fiber optics had been touted as the first mode of long-distance communication impervious to eavesdropping. The technology allows thousands of phone calls, faxes, e-mail messages and encrypted data files, translated into beams of light, to travel through a single strand of glass as thin as a human hair. Most undersea cables now typically contain eight such strands, or fibers. Extracting the data inside requires gaining access to those light beams--in the dark, high-pressure realm of the ocean's depths.

At the bottom of the sea
Undersea fiber-optic cables are sheathed in a thick steel husk and buried in a yard-deep trench. But once the water depth exceeds 1,000 feet, they usually are left to run uncovered along the ocean floor. Industry experts believe the NSA tap must have occurred in deep waters far out at sea, where the cable would be exposed and the risks of being seen would be lower. Some cable operators make frequent surveillance flights hundreds of miles from shore, mainly to keep track of fishing boats whose nets or anchors might rip their cables.

Former intelligence officials say the agency made its tap with the help of a customized sub. "It's a submarine capable of bringing a length of cable inside a special chamber, where the men then do the work," while the sub hugs the ocean floor, says one former official. The surface ships used by undersea-cable companies to install and repair cables have similar chambers--called jointing rooms--where crews work on the delicate fibers. When repairing a broken cable, cable companies generally lift one end of the rupture to the surface and into the jointing room, splice in a new length of cable, then lift the other end of the rupture and repeat the process.

In 1997, the NSA and the Navy proposed equipping the USS Jimmy Carter with such a chamber, as part of a "special operations" upgrade to the $2.4 billion sub.

Worth the gains?
Some members of Congress doubted that the cost of the upgrade would be worth the intelligence gains. And, in closed meetings with lawmakers on Capitol Hill, several top intelligence officials in the Clinton administration fought to kill the project. They lost the battle in late 1998, when Congress agreed to enlarge the sub to accommodate what the Navy called "advanced technology for naval special warfare and tactical surveillance." Plans called for the upgrade to include facilities that would enable the NSA to tap undersea cables, people familiar with it say. The Navy declines to discuss details of the retrofit, which is now under way. The vessel's intended mission could have been modified.

Norman Polmar, a naval and intelligence expert, says any undersea tapping probably would be done in a custom-designed chamber that detaches from the sub. "The Navy would not be keen on bringing a high-voltage cable into a submarine," says Polmar, a part-time consultant to Congress and the Pentagon who has followed the submarine project closely. Moreover, he says, "Having a cable running through a sub for a day or more would tie the sub down in a way that could endanger lives."

He says the USS Jimmy Carter is meant to have "lock-out capability" to allow divers to leave and enter the sub. Plans also call for special thrusters that will allow the vessel to hover near the ocean floor for long periods, a technology that would enable it to supply oxygen and power to an undersea chamber.

The USS Jimmy Carter is expected to replace the USS Parche, a Cold War-era sub used extensively to spy on the Soviets. The Parche, set for retirement in 2003, tapped a number of undersea Soviet copper cables during the 1970s and 1980s, according to the 1998 book "Blind Man's Bluff," a history of submarine-based spying written by Sherry Sontag and Christopher Drew. The NSA declines to comment.

The Parche is equipped with a claw-like device to pluck fairly large objects off the ocean floor. The sub used in the NSA tap probably was fitted with a similar system used to lift the cable into the jointing room, which would then have been emptied of water, experts say.

"This wouldn't be any ordinary submarine," says Marc Dodeman, an engineer with Margus Co., of Edison, N.J., a pioneer in undersea-cable installation and repair. "It would have to have some way to take in a cable, while sitting on the ocean floor, without leaking water. That would require some intense engineering."

Technicians fixing a damaged cable usually make such repairs above water and under antiseptic conditions. Dust or seawater in the submerged chamber could ruin an exposed fiber. Making a surreptitious tap of a live cable would also require circumventing the electrical charge--usually around 10,000 volts--which is used to power the devices that keep the speeding light beams strong.

"Exposing that electricity to the water, or severing it at all, would shut down the entire system," says Peter Runge, chief of research and development for TyCom Ltd., Morristown, N.J., one of the world's largest submarine cable companies and a majority-owned unit of Tyco International Ltd. The shutdown would defeat the tap and alert the cable operator that something was amiss, adds Runge, making the odds of success extremely small. TyCom and its rivals say that any interruptions or outages they have experienced were caused by fishermen's nets, anchors--or, in earlier days, shark bites--but none of the circumstances suggested tampering.

There are basically two ways to extract light, and thus data, from a fiber: by bending the fiber so that some light radiates through the fiber's thin polymer cladding, and by splicing the fiber, Runge says. Bending fiber is an imprecise science. The NSA tap probably required splicing a second fiber to each of the fibers, splitting the data into two identical streams.

But that would pose yet another problem. "Splice the line, and you cut off the light, at least momentarily," says Wayne Siddall, an optical engineer at Corning Fiber in Corning, N.Y. Even a second's interruption could be noticed by a cable's operator. Cable companies typically build systems with duplicate lines that take diverging routes, in case one of them is damaged or severed.

One retired NSA optical specialist insists that the NSA devised a way to splice a fiber without being detected. "Getting into fiber is delicate work, but by no means impossible," the former specialist says. Neither he nor the NSA will discuss the matter further.

After the tap had been completed, the hard work of interpreting the data began--and it proved difficult for the NSA, say those familiar with the project. "What we got was a blast of digital bits, like a fire hydrant spraying you in the face," says one former NSA technician with knowledge of the project. "It was the classic needle-in-the-haystack pursuit, except here the haystack starts out huge and grows by the second," the former technician says. NSA's computers simply weren't equipped to sort through so much data flying at them so fast.

That's not likely to change soon. The NSA long boasted some of the most powerful computers on earth. But the agency's technological edge dulled as the equipment aged and money grew tight. The NSA's budget is classified, but individuals familiar with it say it is about two-thirds what it was a decade ago, even before accounting for inflation.

At the same time, new undersea cables are carrying more and more information. A cable TyCom is laying across the Pacific will have the capacity to carry the equivalent of 100 million phone calls at a time.

Flag Telecom expects to throw the switch on a new trans-Atlantic cable this summer whose eight fibers will have the capacity to move more information than all the cables now crossing the Atlantic. Some computer experts say that the power to digest what will stream through the Flag cable could require a doubling of the NSA's computing power--and huge costs. The NSA's tapping project, from research to tap, cost hundreds of millions of dollars, individuals familiar with it say.

Yet the NSA's Lt. Gen. Hayden says he isn't discouraged. At the moment, he likes to say, technology is the NSA's enemy. But computing power will allow it to process greater masses of data, which he says he hopes will eventually "allow a single analyst to extract wisdom from vast volumes of raw information."

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Carter is roughly 100 feet (30 m) longer than the other two ships of her class. This is due to the insertion of a section known as the Multi-Mission Platform (MMP), which allows launch and recovery of ROVs and Navy SEAL forces. The plug features a fairing over a wasp-waist shaped passageway allowing crew to pass between the fore and aft sections of the hull while providing a space to store ROVs and special equipment that may need to launch and recover from the submarine. The MMP may also be used as an underwater splicing chamber for tapping of undersea fiber optic cables. This role was formerly filled by the decommissioned USS Parche (SSN-683).

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Israel gearing up for Another War
www.globalresearch.ca

Global Research, February 3, 2008
Press TV (Iran) - 2008-02-02

Israel calls for shelter rooms to be set up in a bid to prepare the public for yet another war, this time, one of raining missiles.

"The next war will see a massive use of ballistic weapons against the whole of Israeli territory," claimed retired general Udi Shani.

Shani did not specify whether by 'the next war' he meant a battle against the residents of the Gaza Strip, the Lebanese or the war many speculate Israel will wage on Iran allegedly over its nuclear program, which the recent US National Intelligence Estimate conceded to be void of nuclear arms development intentions.

Speaking on the radio as part of a military propaganda offensive, Colonel Yehiel Kuperstein said the safety of civilians must be assured and put forth a plan to equip apartments with a reinforced room serving as a shelter.

"Today in Israel only one third of apartments have such a room able to provide shelter. They have neither an air filter nor ventilation system enabling anyone to stay there for a long time," said Kuperstein.

Israeli officials, who have been preparing the public for a major war, have started the distribution of brochures in six languages instructing people on how to react during a future war, particularly in the event of missile attacks.

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Op maandag 4 februari 2008 03:29 schreef Drugshond het volgende:
USS Jimmy Carter
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UNEMPLOYMENT: US employers cut jobs as economic clouds darken
dailytimes

WASHINGTON: The US economy suffered 17,000 job losses in January, marking the first monthly losses since 2003, according to a government Friday, which highlighted fears, that America are sliding into recession.

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Why We Fight describes the rise and maintenance of the United States military-industrial complex and its involvement in the wars led by the United States during the last fifty years, and in particular in the 2003 Invasion of Iraq. The film alleges that in every decade since World War II, the American public has been told a lie to bring it into war to fuel the military-economic machine, which in turn maintains American dominance in the world. It includes interviews with John McCain, Chalmers Johnson, Richard Perle, William Kristol, Gore Vidal and Joseph Cirincione. The film also incorporates the stories of a Vietnam War veteran whose son died in the September 11, 2001 attacks and then had his son's name written on a bomb dropped on Iraq; a 23-year old New York man who enlists in the United States Army citing his financial troubles after his only family member died; and a former Vietnamese refugee who now develops explosives for the American military.

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Op zaterdag 2 februari 2008 21:32 schreef gronk het volgende:
Je hoeft ook niet met een amerikaans bootje te gaan vingeren; het enige wat je hoeft te doen is een paar lokale vissers een maandloon te geven als ze hun anker willen uitgooien op 'die-en-die-plek'.

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Op zondag 3 februari 2008 18:44 schreef remlof het volgende:
"The only 2 countries that were unaffected were Israel and Iraq, the only two close Anglo-American allies in the region, both remaining completely unaffected by the cable cuts"

Goh wat toevallig - bron

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Op maandag 4 februari 2008 04:35 schreef NorthernStar het volgende:

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Israel heeft ook onderzeeers. Naast de oudere Gal-class submarines hebben ze sinds een paar jaar ook Duitse Dolphin-class submarines.

"The Dolphin-class vessels are among the most technically advanced of their kind in the world."

Het gaat ongeveer twee weken duren voor het hersteld is, dus als deze doorgeknipte kabels ergens een voorbode van zijn weten we het snel genoeg.

Israelis told to prepare 'rocket rooms' for war

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There's Something Wicked in the Wind.
There’s a lot of hysteria jumping off of the internet right now; what portion of the internet is still operating. Let’s face it, previous severance of communications links have proven to be a prelude to war. There are all manner of theories chasing this event. Some of them are dark and dreadful if true.


I’ve been given some credible alternatives to the cutting of major communication cables in recent days. One of them is because gold is soaring. Markets in India, Hong Kong and Tokyo were all geared for major trading which would have precipitated a huge flight from the dollar.


Another story I’ve been given is that it’s connected to the opening of the Iranian oil bourse with much the same intention of forestalling economic free fall.


A disturbing question comes into my mind. Wouldn’t these same factors be present once the cables were restored? I’m not an economist so you will have to pardon my ignorance in such matters. It could be that enough time exists in the period before connectivity is back to make changes that can offset what is happening. Still… to me it seems like the situation is still there, just delayed.


The Super Bowl comes on in a few hours. This is a major focus of world attention. This particular Super Bowl has features to it seen only once before and this time it’s even bigger[...]

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The Iranian embassy in Abu Dhabi told ArabianBusiness.com that "everything is fine", but internet connectivity reports on the web, citing a router in Tehran, appear to indicate that there is currently no connection to the outside world.

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Op maandag 4 februari 2008 18:54 schreef jogy het volgende:
http://smokingmirrors.blo(...)-wicked-in-wind.html
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Op maandag 4 februari 2008 19:35 schreef -skippybal- het volgende:

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Mja, de Superbowl is voorbij zonder één klap...

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Op maandag 4 februari 2008 18:54 schreef jogy het volgende:
http://smokingmirrors.blo(...)-wicked-in-wind.html
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Op maandag 4 februari 2008 22:36 schreef Cortina het volgende:

Verrekte stil blijft het in de pers trouwens verder of ligt dat aan mij

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Op dinsdag 5 februari 2008 23:08 schreef mr.marcus het volgende:
loopt dit af met een sissertje ofzo

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The last week has seen a spate of unexplained, cut, undersea communications cables that has severely disrupted communications in many countries in the Middle East, North Africa and South Asia. As I shall show, the total numbers of cut cables remain in question, but likely number as many as eight, and maybe nine or more.



The trouble began on 30 January 2008 with CNN reports that two cables were cut off the Egyptian Mediterranean coast, initially severely disrupting Internet and telephone traffic from Egypt to India and many points in between. According to CNN the two cut cables “account for as much as three-quarters of the international communications between Europe and the Middle East.“ CNN reported that the two cut cables off the Egyptian coast were “FLAG Telecom's FLAG Europe-Asia cable and SeaMeWe-4, a cable owned by a consortium of more than a dozen telecommunications companies”.(10) Other reports placed one of the cut cables, SeaMeWe-4, off the coast of France, near Marseille.(9)(12) However, many news organizations reported two cables cut off the Egyptian coast, including the SeaMeWe-4 cable connecting Europe with the Middle East. The possibilities are thus three, based on the reporting in the news media: 1) the SeaMeWe-4 cable was cut off the coast of France, and mistakenly reported as being cut off the coast of Egypt, because it runs from France to Egypt; 2) the SeaMeWe-4 cable was cut off the Egyptian coast and mistakenly reported as being cut off the coast of France, because it runs from France to Egypt; or 3) the SeaMeWe-4 cable was cut both off the Egyptian and the French coasts, nearly simultaneously, leading to confusion in the reporting. I am not sure what to think, because most reports, such as this one from the International Herald Tribune, refer to two cut cables off the Egyptian coast, one of the two being the SeaMeWe4 cable,(11) while other reports also refer to a cut cable off the coast of France.(9)(12) It thus appears that the same cable may have suffered two cuts, both off the French and the Egyptian coasts. So there were likely actually three undersea cables cut in the Mediterranean on 30 January 2008.

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Op woensdag 6 februari 2008 19:23 schreef jogy het volgende:
http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/ConnectingTheDots.htm
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8 of 9 kabels kapot volgens de schrijver. Hij heeft zijn bronnen onderaan het artikel voor eigen research .

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Op donderdag 7 februari 2008 00:04 schreef ChOas het volgende:

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En als je die bronnen volgt kom je tot dezelfde conclusie ? Niets dubbel geteld ?, Niet de domheid van de media aangenomen, Niet meerdere verbindingen door 1 kabel geteld, maar echt 8 a 9 kabels kapot ?

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Op donderdag 7 februari 2008 12:22 schreef kamlesh het volgende:
Hmm, je zou juist zeggen dat je als backup in elk Aziatisch land wel eens of meerdere satelliet grondstations hebt als backup..

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Op donderdag 7 februari 2008 12:22 schreef kamlesh het volgende:
Hmm, je zou juist zeggen dat je als backup in elk Aziatisch land wel eens of meerdere satelliet grondstations hebt als backup..

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Op donderdag 7 februari 2008 00:04 schreef ChOas het volgende:

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En als je die bronnen volgt kom je tot dezelfde conclusie ? Niets dubbel geteld ?, Niet de domheid van de media aangenomen, Niet meerdere verbindingen door 1 kabel geteld, maar echt 8 a 9 kabels kapot ?

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Op donderdag 7 februari 2008 18:36 schreef jogy het volgende:

Nee, maar ik heb de bronnen erbij gezet dat als er skeptische mensen rondlopen zij dit verhaal kapot kunnen maken dan wel kunnen verifiëren met behulp van de links.

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Op donderdag 7 februari 2008 18:41 schreef gronk het volgende:

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Erm, meestal zijn 't niet de skeptici die teveel vrije tijd hebben

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Op donderdag 7 februari 2008 18:47 schreef jogy het volgende:

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Vooroordeel . Ik ken genoeg skeptici met teveel vrije tijd.

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Op donderdag 7 februari 2008 18:51 schreef gronk het volgende:

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Neu, feit. Als ik de hoeveelheid tekst zie die 'believers' intikken dan heb ik daar respect voor.

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Dataverkeer Midden-Oosten opnieuw ontregeld door kabelbreuk

Sinds de kabelbreuk eind januari waarbij een groot deel van de internetverbindingen in het Midden-Oosten uitvielen is de situatie in de regio niet verbeterd. Afgelopen woensdag werd voor de vijfde keer in korte tijd een onderzeese kabel beschadigd.

Op 31 januari werden twee kabels vlak bij de Egyptische haven van Alexandria beschadigd waardoor een groot deel van Egypte en India tijdelijk zonder internet kwam te zitten. Op de eerste dag van februari begaf een derde kabel het waardoor ook Dubai het met minder bandbreedte moest doen. Een vierde kabel werd afgelopen dinsdag beschadigd in de buurt van de Verenigde Arabische Emiraten en gisteren kwam er nog een breuk bij in een ander segment van de al beschadigde Falcon-kabel, waarmee het totaal op vijf breuken is komen te liggen.

De verschillende kabelbreuken zorgen voor veel overlast in het Midden-Oosten. In eerste instantie had meer dan de helft van Egypte en India geen internetverbinding meer. Door het omleiden van het internetverkeer zijn de meeste problemen verholpen, maar in veel gebieden is wel aanzienlijk minder bandbreedte beschikbaar. Verwacht wordt dat de eerste gebroken kabel over enkele dagen gerepareerd zal zijn.

De oorzaak van de verschillende breuken is nog onbekend. Een anker van een schip dat over de zeebodem sleept is een logische oorzaak, maar volgens Egypte zijn de kabels in de buurt van Alexandria niet beschadigd door de scheepvaart.

bron: tweakers.net

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 09:50 schreef NED het volgende:
Op deze site zie je dat Iran compleet plat ligt?

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Dat is tochop zn minst merkwaardig te noemen dacht ik zo

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 09:53 schreef Swetsenegger het volgende:
Daar was al een heel leuk topic over, maar dat werd tussen de gestoorden in BNW geschopt helaas.

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 10:03 schreef gronk het volgende:
Hrmn. Ik heb eerlijk gezegd geen idee hoevaak er 'normaal' kabelbreuken zijn. Stel dat er normalerwijs eens in de maand ergens een kabel wordt gesloopt, maar dat dat het nieuws niet haalt, dan is er feitelijk niets aan de hand. Aan de andere kant, als zo'n kabelbreuk alleen voorkomt bij extreme omstandigheden (aardbevingen enzo), dan is 't wel typisch te noemen...


Anyway, gezien 't feit dat paranoia en het wijten van dit soort 'ongelukken' aan een joods/amerikaans complot een favoriete sport is in het midden-oosten, kunnen ze daar hun lol wel op..

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 10:21 schreef NED het volgende:
Ik lees net in die andere topics dat het zo een 50x per jaar voorkomt

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 09:50 schreef NED het volgende:
Op deze site zie je dat Iran compleet plat ligt?

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Dat is tochop zn minst merkwaardig te noemen dacht ik zo

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 12:07 schreef -Schorpioen- het volgende:
Het schijnen er toch al 8 te zijn. Iran schijnt toch echt compleet afgesloten te zijn van internet.

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 12:30 schreef LeeHarveyOswald het volgende:
volgens dat schema ligt duitsland dr ook uit

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 10:04 schreef gronk het volgende:
Oud topic: Al vier onderzeese internet-kabels stuk...

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"There's a little cause to be suspicious but there is no smoking gun," Underwood said.

If the cuts were deliberate, one has to answer the question of means, motive and opportunity. Since it's not that hard to sever an unprotected cable, the real question is motive, according to Underwood.

"Its difficult to tell what the motive would be: is it just to annoy people?" Underwood said. "If it were targeted, the targeting is bad. The loonies on the American left say this was us targeting Iran. If this is us targeting Iran, we are much worse than I thought we were."

"Are we really targeting India or Pakistan?" Underwood asked incredulously.

The real answer will likely come once the repair ships begin pulling up the cable from the sea floor to repair it in the coming days and weeks, according to Underwood.

"Then we will know quite a bit more," Underwood said. "Does it look like an anchor hit or did someone take an acetylene torch to it?"

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 10:27 schreef soylent het volgende:

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Goh, de router van iust.ac.ir antwoordt niet op ping. Dus dan is het hele land compleet plat? Waarom doet de website iust.ac.ir het dan wel?

Naabs

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Op vrijdag 8 februari 2008 16:11 schreef Revolution-NL het volgende:

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Net of iedere site met .ir domein in Iran gehost wordt

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Op zaterdag 9 februari 2008 00:07 schreef zhe-devilll het volgende:
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Op zaterdag 9 februari 2008 01:52 schreef Xith het volgende:
Denk dat de USA nu gewoon bij elke nieuwe lijn een splitter plaatst om alles te checken...

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Op zaterdag 9 februari 2008 01:24 schreef soylent het volgende:

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Ja, net alsof. Maar toch ook weer niet natuurlijk.

En je kan waarschijnlijk wel vertellen in welk land deze site gehost wordt dan.
Hint: 194.225.224.0/20 wordt geannounced door AS41620, het AS van de universiteit in Teheran, en de trace gaat over Iranet.

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Op dinsdag 19 februari 2008 12:12 schreef Ender_Wiggin het volgende:
UPDATE:

schade internetkabels mogelijk werk saboteurs