Half wilden, half intellectuele filosofen.quote:Op zondag 13 mei 2007 11:49 schreef nummer_zoveel het volgende:
Zijn ook gewoon een stel halve wilden daar.
Misschien heeft haar vriend al eerder gekeken.quote:Op zondag 13 mei 2007 12:27 schreef kLowJow het volgende:
Vreemd dat daar pas na de begrafenis naar gekeken wordt.
quote:April 22, 2007
Gunmen stop bus carrying Christians, Yazidis in northern Iraq, kill 23
All of the dead appear to be Yazidis, apparently killed in revenge after a Yazidi woman who converted to Islam was stoned to death by relatives. In response, the gunmen killed 23 Yazidis, and one can't rule out further reprisals. "Gunmen kill 23 from tiny sect in Iraq," by Lauren Frayer for The Associated Press:
BAGHDAD - Gunmen in northern Iraq stopped a bus filled with Christians and members of a tiny, mostly Kurdish religious sect on Sunday, police said, separating out the groups and taking 23 of the passengers away to be shot.
The attack came on a violent day in Baghdad, with at least 20 people killed in car bombings, most in a double suicide strike against a police station in a religiously mixed neighborhood.
Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, on a tour abroad to ask the Arab world's Sunni-led governments to help his struggling government stop the violence in Iraq, said he told Egypt's president that Iraq's reality is "not a civil or sectarian war."
Police said the execution-style killings of the Yazidis — a primarily Kurdish sect that worships an angel figure considered to be the devil by some Muslims and Christians — appeared to be in response to the stoning death of a Yazidi woman who had recently converted to Islam.
In the northern Iraq killings, armed men in several cars stopped the bus as it was carrying workers from the Mosul Textile Factory to their hometown of Bashika, which has a mixed population of Christians and Yazidis.
The gunmen checked passengers' identification, then asked the Christians to get off the bus, said police Brig. Mohammed al-Wagga.
With the Yazidis still inside, the gunmen drove them to eastern Mosul, where they were lined up along a wall and shot to death, al-Wagga said.
After the killings, hundreds of Yazidis took to the streets of Bashika, a town in Ninevah province that is 80 percent Yazidi, 15 percent Christian and about five percent Muslim. Shops were shuttered and many Muslims closed themselves in their homes, fearing reprisal attacks.
Abdul-Karim Khalaf, a provincial police spokesman said the executions were in response to the killing two weeks ago of a Yazidi woman who had recently converted to Islam after she fell in love with a Muslim and ran off with him.
Disapproving relatives dragged her back to Bashika, where she was stoned to death, he said. A grainy video showing gruesome scenes of the stoning was distributed on Iraqi Web sites in recent weeks.
A Muslim man who said he released from the bus with six Christians said 10 gunmen stopped the vehicle, then ordered the driver to steer it into a narrow alley, where they ordered the passengers off and separated them according to their identification cards, which indicate the holders' religion.
"Then they asked the Yazidis to get back on the bus. The gunmen started to shout 'God curse your devil' and they were telling the Yazidis that 'It is not your business if the woman decided to convert to Islam," said the passenger, Mustafa Ali Mustafa.
http://www.aina.org/news/2007050193812.htmquote:Hundreds of Yazidi rioters attacked the headquarters of the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) in the towns of Khana Sor and Jazira, west of Mosul, and took down the Kurdish flag and burned it, according to several Kurdish and Yazidi websites. The attacks came during a massive demonstration by the Yazidi community Friday protesting the threats against Yazidi workers in Erbil, Dohuk and Zakho, and recent religious edicts by Kurdish clerics sanctioning attacks against Yazidis, according to eyewitness accounts. Demonstrators pelted guards and Peshmerga forces with stones, and some stormed into the KDP headquarters destroying windows and furniture and setting several vehicles near the building on fire. Peshmerga troops reportedly opened fire and wounded three demonstrators, according to the Ezidi Inqad Movement.
Ninewa Deputy Governor Khisro Guran told the Peyamner News Agency Saturday that members of an armed group called the Yazidi Reform and Progress Movement, which he described a "Ba'athist" group stirring chaos in Yazidi towns, attacked the KDP headquarters in Seba Sheikh Khidr, a village in the Qahtaniya district west of Mosul, and set it on fire late Friday.
Yazidi workers and students residing in the Kurdish autonomous region had received death threats, and angry Kurdish rioters almost broke into a hotel full of Yazidi workers in Erbil before security forces intervened several days ago. The Bahzani website reported that two Yazidi men were killed in Mosul by unknown gunmen. The Islamic State of Iraq insurgent group had claimed responsibility for killing 24 Yazidis in Mosul last week. The attack, which was described as the largest against the community in decades, was thought to be in response to the brutal murder of Doa Khalil Aswad, 17, a Yazidi girl who had engaged in a relationship with a Muslim Kurd, by her relatives amidst fanfare in the Yazidi town of Ba'shiqa east of Mosul on April 7.
Leaders of the Yazidi community, a tiny Gnostic sect in northern Iraq, Turkey and Syria that combines Islamic teachings with ancient Babylonian and Persian religions, had condemned the crime against the young Yazidi woman, and denied that it was in response to her alleged conversion to Islam, as Kurdish websites had reported. Tahsin Beg Sa'eed Ali, the Emir of the Yazidi sect and head of the Higher Yazidi Spiritual Council, had strongly condemned the incident and called for restraint in a press statement on April 27. His residence and the Yazidi Cultural Center in Ain Sifni, east of Mosul, were reportedly attacked and burned down by Kurds last week.
Iraqi police in Ba'shiqa said that two people who participated in stoning the young girl were detained and that two of the girls's uncles and four other people had fled the town while investigators continue to search for the rest of the culprits, including the girl's brother, who had appeared in a cell phone video recording of the murder, which was widely circulated on the Internet. Aswad's corpse was exhumed and sent to the Medico-legal Institute in Mosul several days ago before it was returned to the Sheikh Shams cemetery, medical sources told a Kurdish newspaper yesterday, but they did not disclose the results.
een lichaamlijk onderzoek a la CSIquote:Op zondag 13 mei 2007 14:00 schreef Dagonet het volgende:
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http://www.aina.org/news/2007050193812.htm
Ik ben benieuwd waar de Volkskrant vandaan heeft dat het om het tonen van haar maagdelijkheid ging eigenlijk.
Maar waar haalt de Volkskrant het vandaan dat het daarom ging? Het is geen nieuws van het moment, ze werd al eind april opgegraven tenslotte, dus waarom, als ik googel op Aswad exhumed vind ik slechts het ene bericht dat ik hierboven quotete van iraqslogger dat de medical results not disclosed meldde.quote:
Daar ging het ook niet om. Maar de vader wilde nog wel aantonen dat ze maagd was, en dus niks met die moslimjongen had gedaan.quote:Op zondag 13 mei 2007 14:09 schreef Dagonet het volgende:
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Maar waar haalt de Volkskrant het vandaan dat het daarom ging?
Verhaal van een yezidi op een blog:quote:Da's raar, als het om het tonen van haar maagdelijkheid ging dan was het echt wel als een lopend vuurtje over internet gegaan en dan waren er heus wel meer engelstalige blogs die het zouden hebben vermeld. Die zijn er niet. Ergo, ik geloof gewoon het hele bericht niet.
Precies. Laten we ze gaan bombarderen uit naam van de beschaving.quote:Op zondag 13 mei 2007 15:24 schreef alex4allofyou het volgende:
Zo zie je maar dat de problemen waar we hier ook tegenaan lopen niet zozeer puur de islam is maar cultureel. Dat neemt niet weg dat de islam gevormd is in die cultuur (en ook nog eens in de zevende eeuw).
Als het daar niet om ging dan rijst weer de vraag waarom het op de FP dan als titel wordt gekozen, maar dat terzijde, de zin 'Haar lichaam werd nog even opgegraven, opdat haar vader het dorp nog trots haar maagdenvlies kon tonen. ' in het Volkskrant artikel doet toch echt wel vermoeden dat het opgraven er juist om ging om te kunnen aantonen dat ze nog maagd was en niet dat ze opgegraven werd om naar een ziekenhuis over te brengen voor onderzoek.quote:Op zondag 13 mei 2007 16:02 schreef R@b het volgende:
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Daar ging het ook niet om. Maar de vader wilde nog wel aantonen dat ze maagd was, en dus niks met die moslimjongen had gedaan.
Je bent lief hoor, maar daar gaat het nu niet over, meisje is gestenigd, wordt aangegrepen voor oplaaien ruzie tussen moslims en yezidi's met ettelijke moordpartijen over en weer, prima, niets nieuws in die contreien, zoeken ze maar uit, scheelt weer zuurstofverspilling.quote:Op zondag 13 mei 2007 16:12 schreef Die_Hofstadtgruppe het volgende:
Zeg, toon eens wat respect voor hun cultuur, jij Westerse arrogante kruisvaarder!
Integratie moet van 2 kanten komen en wie zijn wij om hun normen en waarden af te zeiken?
Alsof in NL nooit meisjes vermoord en daarna opgegraven worden.
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