[Centraal Hurricane Katrina] Problemen in New Orleans deel 7

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Op maandag 12 september 2005 14:11 schreef Yildiz het volgende:

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Ik zeg toch nergens dat ik bewondering heb voor een totalitaire staat?
Dat heb ik ook niet, het gaat erom dat een land als China het gewoon wel kan, en USA niet.

Terwijl je zou zeggen dat USA, met al zn oorlogen, toch best wat ervaring hier en daar moet hebben.

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Op maandag 12 september 2005 21:23 schreef kLowJow het volgende:
Belachelijk. .

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'Rampenplan voorspelde catastrofe voor New Orleans'

NEW ORLEANS - Een uitgebreid rampenplan voor New Orleans voorspelde in details wat de stad te wachten stond als een krachtige orkaan over New Orleans zou razen. Al voordat de orkaan Katrina twee weken geleden aan land ging, konden de autoriteiten weten dat ze ‘duizenden slachtoffers’ en ‘drijvende lijkkisten’ konden verwachten als de dijken zouden breken.

De Amerikaanse nieuwszender ABC publiceerde maandag uit het rampenplan, waaruit blijkt dat alle autoriteiten wisten van de vernietiging die een orkaan als Katrina kon aanrichten. Katrina had een kracht van 3 op de schaal van Saffir-Simpson toen ze aan land kwam.

Volgens ABC is het rampenplan in januari verstuurd naar het federale Amerikaanse agentschap voor rampenbestrijding (FEMA) en de staat Louisiana. Het plan is opgesteld na een rampenoefening in juli vorig jaar. Daarbij bleek dat als een orkaan met windsnelheden van 180 kilometer per uur bij de stad aan land zou gaan, het water van Lake Pontchartrain over de dijken zou stromen en de stad onder water zou komen te staan.
http://www.volkskrant.nl/buitenland/1126504621843.html

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The SNAFU plan

It looks to me like everything is going according to plan. Chaos, like everything else, is just a matter of perspective. Few people really know anything about the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), except it's a name that's thrown around a lot during times of national disaster. Do not think for one minute that Bush "gutted" FEMA by placing it under the control of Homeland Security czar Michael Chertoff. By any other name, FEMA remains this nation's "secret government," with powers to suspend laws, move entire populations, arrest and detain citizens without a warrant, hold citizens without a trial, seize control of all transportation and communication systems and – suspend the US Constitution.

FEMA was created outside of Constitutional law via a President John Kennedy Executive Order, and is subject to no Congressional oversight. It received a "tune up" under President Jimmy Carter then, like Topsy, "just growed" through presidents Nixon, Reagan, Poppy and Bubba to the present time. Genocide fascists like Henry Kissinger, and greedy patriots like former General Richard Secord and Lt. Col. Oliver North, the architects of both the Iran-Contra scandal and today's FEMA, must be laughing their asses off at the juvenile disinformation bait-and-switch scenario playing itself out in the US media.

We would do well to remember that these jackals are on a mission. No matter how many times they are exposed as liars and deceivers, they continue across the field of life like a hoard of grasshoppers, leaving stripped and broken humanity in their wake. They are roiling the waters of the Mississippi by portraying FEMA as dim-witted, absent-minded, rudderless.

And it's working. The media, Internet, Congress, you, me – everybody – all baying for Bush to dump the hapless FEMA director, Michael Brown, a Bush crony and former counsel for the International Arabian Horse Association. We are all outraged, not at Bush for dropping the ball; for being so chillingly disconnected from those he is charged to protect – but at Brown, who is a perfect lightning rod and, if need be, a fall guy.

He's also a man with a plan.

Take a look at these headlines – FEMA refusing all offered rescue assistance from Amtrack to experienced firefighters, FEMA not delivering on promises, FEMA barring delivery of desperately needed food or water to frightened and bewildered victims of Katrina, FEMA telling First Responders not to "respond" to the disaster. Does anybody but me see a pattern here? Is it possible for an emergency aid organization to show up at the scene only to refuse all offers of aid? Does McDonald's cook up a bunch of hamburgers and then lock its doors to its hungry patrons?

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"Bureaucracy has murdered people in the greater New Orleans area. And bureaucracy needs to stand trial before Congress today," Aaron Broussard, president of Jefferson Parish, said on CBS' "The Early Show."

"So I'm asking Congress, please investigate this now. Take whatever idiot they have at the top of whatever agency and give me a better idiot. Give me a caring idiot. Give me a sensitive idiot. Just don't give me the same idiot."

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Op dinsdag 13 september 2005 08:15 schreef bbstreams het volgende:
Herinnert u zich deze nog? nog? nog?;
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rara maar waar... ze hebben een betere "idioot" gevonden hoor.

R. David Paulison nieuwe FEMA opperhoofd
http://www.fema.gov/about/bios/paulison.shtm


hij maakte o.a naam met de ducktape opmerkingen, lowe's en Home Depot waar blij , washington D.C minder blij.

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http://www.belowtopsecret.com/thread4880/pg1


ben benieuwd waar hij deze keer mee komt, oproepje voor aanschaf van een rubberduck in geval het leger op zich laat wachten heb je tenminste tijdverdrijf

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Op dinsdag 13 september 2005 08:15 schreef bbstreams het volgende:
Herinnert u zich deze nog? nog? nog?;
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rara maar waar... ze hebben een betere "idioot" gevonden hoor.

R. David Paulison nieuwe FEMA opperhoofd
http://www.fema.gov/about/bios/paulison.shtm


hij maakte o.a naam met de ducktape opmerkingen, lowe's en Home Depot waar blij , washington D.C minder blij.

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http://www.belowtopsecret.com/thread4880/pg1
http://www.ducttapeguys.com/DHS


ben benieuwd waar hij deze keer mee komt, oproepje voor aanschaf van een rubberduck in geval het leger op zich laat wachten heb je tenminste tijdverdrijf

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Then Bush had a photo-op with Senator Trent Loft, whose house had been demolished. "The good news is - and it's hard for some to see it now - that out of this chaos is going to come a fantistic Gulf Coast, like it was before." Bush said "Out of the rubble of Trent Loft's house - he's lost his entire house - there's going to be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch."

According to the official White House transcript, laughter followed that remark. Loft was Senate majority leader until a few years ago, when he was forced to resign because he said that he regretted that racial desegregation had taken place in the South in the 1950s and 60s. So while the poor and the black were drowning or dying, Bush chose to chuckle in the South. It beggared belief.'

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Nieuwe baas rampenbestrijding VS

WASHINGTON President Bush heeft een nieuwe coördinator aangesteld voor de federale rampenbestrijding. Het is David Paulison, een voormalig brandweerman met 30 jaar ervaring in het vak.

Hij volgt Mike Brown op die sinds 2003 aan het hoofd stond van het agentschap. Brown vertrok gisteren na zware kritiek op de langzame reactie na de orkaan Katrina. Het Witte Huis had hem vrijdag al uit New Orleans teruggeroepen.

President Bush is voor de derde keer in in het rampgebied geweest. Opnieuw sprak hij tegen dat zijn regering traag heeft gereageerd omdat de meeste slachtoffers arm en zwart zijn.

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Op maandag 12 september 2005 23:34 schreef Wuder het volgende:

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Oorlog voeren en humanitaire hulp bieden zijn niet zelfde..

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Earwitness tells ABC explosives blew Industrial Canal levee;

DAVID MUIR, ABC NEWS: This is the actual levee that runs along the canal on the eastern side of the city. And when the hurricane hit, the water came through at such force, it was apparently too much. You can see the massive breach here, and when you look around the corner you can see what the water did to the Lower Ninth Ward. It compleetley destoryed neighborhoods.

JOE EDWARDS, JR., 9TH WARD RESIDENT: I heard something go BOOM!

MUIR: Joe Edwards rushed to get himself and as many neighbors as possible into his truck. They drove to this bridge, where they've been living ever since

EDWARDS: My house broke in half. My mother's house just disintegrated. It was a brick house. All the houses down there floated down the street like somebody's guiding 'em

MUIR: Was it solely the water that broke the levee, or was it the force of this barge that now sits where homes once did? Joe Edwards says neither. People are so bitter, so disenfranchised in this neighborhood, they actually think the city did it, blowing up the levee to save richer neighborhoods like the French Quarter.

MUIR: So you're convinced . . .

EDWARDS: I know this happened!

MUIR: . . . they broke the levee on purpose?

EDWARDS: They blew it!

MUIR: New Orleans' mayor says there's no credence to this.

NEW ORLEANS MAYOR RAY NAGIN: That storm was so powerful and it pushed so much water, there's no way anyone could have calculated what levee to dynamite to have the kind of impact to save the French Quarter.

MUIR: An LSU expert who looked at the video today says, while the barge may have caused it, it was most likely the sheer force of the water that brought the levee along the Lower Ninth Ward down.

Video

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“We survived the storm,” Robert went on. “We survived the wind and the rain. After the storm passed, the water started rising, and all you heard was ‘Boom!’ ” The explosions, he said, were the levees blowing. “Ask any of these people. The hurricane wasn’t that bad, but the opportunity came up.”

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1) killing off a dangerous alternative to transnational corporate kleptocracy, which is also a black, democratic, and low income city, 2) test driving the logistical practicalities of stadium internment, urban removal and other key elements of the coming federal response to Amerikkka's collapse, 3) creating vast amounts of reconstruction contracts (already awarded to Halliburton ), and 4) stealing the land for pennies on the dollar with the recent New London v. ? eminent domain Supreme Court decision and harsh new bankruptcy laws, for the scum-fucking corporate elite to reconstruct in a Disneyfied, "Celebration, Florida" (set of the movie "The Truman Show") image.

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BREAKING NEWS President Bush will address the nation Thursday at 9 p.m. ET from Louisiana, the White House announces. Details soon.

http://www.cnn.com/

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Op dinsdag 13 september 2005 16:06 schreef IPdaily het volgende:

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Bush gaat wat zeggen.

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MR. RUSSERT: Many people point, Mr. Mayor, that on Friday before the hurricane, President Bush declared an impending disaster. And The Houston Chronicle wrote it this way. "[Mayor Nagin's] mandatory evacuation order was issued 20 hours before the storm struck the Louisiana coast, less than half the time researchers determined would be needed to get everyone out. City officials had 550 municipal buses and hundreds of additional school buses at their disposal but made no plans to use them to get people out of New Orleans before the storm, said Chester Wilmot, a civil engineering professor at Louisiana State University and an expert in transportation planning, who helped the city put together its evacuation plan."

And we've all see this photograph of these submerged school buses. Why did you not declare, order, a mandatory evacuation on Friday, when the president declared an emergency, and have utilized those buses to get people out?

MAYOR NAGIN: You know, Tim, that's one of the things that will be debated. There has never been a catastrophe in the history of New Orleans like this. There has never been any Category 5 storm of this magnitude that has hit New Orleans directly. We did the things that we thought were best based upon the information that we had. Sure, here was lots of buses out there. But guess what? You can't find drivers that would stay behind with a Category 5 hurricane, you know, pending down on New Orleans. We barely got enough drivers to move people on Sunday, or Saturday and Sunday, to move them to the Superdome. We barely had enough drivers for that. So sure, we had the assets, but the drivers just weren't available.

MR. RUSSERT: But, Mr. Mayor, if you read the city of New Orleans' comprehensive emergency plan-- and I've read it and I'll show it to you and our viewers--it says very clearly, "Conduct of an actual evacuation will be the responsibility of the mayor of New Orleans. The city of New Orleans will utilize all available resources to quickly and safely evacuate threatened areas. Special arrangements will be made to evacuate persons unable to transport themselves or who require specific life-saving assistance. Additional personnel will be recruited to assist in evacuation procedure as needed. Approximately 100,000 citizens of New Orleans do not have means of personal transportation."

It was your responsibility. Where was the planning? Where was the preparation? Where was the execution?

MAYOR NAGIN: The planning was always in getting people to higher ground, getting them to safety. That's what we meant by evacuation. Get them out of their homes, which--most people are under sea level. Get them to a higher ground and then depending upon our state and federal officials to move them out of harm's way after the storm has hit.

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Op dinsdag 13 september 2005 16:06 schreef IPdaily het volgende:

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Bush gaat wat zeggen.

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Op dinsdag 13 september 2005 16:24 schreef NightH4wk het volgende:

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Een aardig interview. Iig, gestoorde keuze van Bush om Brown op die plaats te zetten een tijd terug.

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Bush: 'I take responsibility' for U.S. failures

Tuesday, September 13, 2005; Posted: 12:43 p.m. EDT (16:43 GMT)

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- President Bush on Tuesday said he takes responsibility for the federal government's failures in responding to Hurricane Katrina.

"Katrina exposed serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government and to the extent the federal government didn't fully do its job right, I take responsibility," Bush said during a joint news conference with Iraqi President Jalal Talabani.

Bush said he wants to know what went right and what went wrong so that he can determine whether the United States was prepared for another storm, or an attack.

"I'm not going to defend the process going in, but I am going to defend the people who are on the front line of saving lives," Bush said.

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Bush, who once asked Sojourners' Reverend Jim Wallis how to talk to poor people because he had never been around one

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, has once again dropped the ball. Telling Americans whose homes, jobs, loved ones, whose whole lives were washed away in a single night to "hang in there, and don't buy gasoline if you can't afford it," before cutting out to a birthday party in Arizona falls a bit short of his presidential promise to "protect the American people."

It's unfortunate that it took a tragedy like Katrina for middle- and lower-class America to finally come to grips with where they will fit into the capitalist White supremacist New World Disorder. Americans now know that Bush is incapable of leading. They know he's too arrogant and stubborn to follow. They know it's time for him to get out of the way – before more of us are trampled, displaced, abandoned, and destroyed, not only here but throughout the world.

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Op dinsdag 13 september 2005 09:15 schreef IPdaily het volgende:
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Question: Just your best guess, do you think one reason the federal government was slow in rescuing these people was because many of them were black, or was that not a reason?

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Question: Just your best guess, do you think one reason the federal government was slow in rescuing these people was because many of them were poor, or was that not a reason?

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Question: Who do you think deserves the most blame for the fact that many New Orleans residents were trapped in the city after it flooded?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/12/katrina.race.poll/index.html