donderdag 6 maart 2003 @ 21:14:37 #1
37401 M.ALTA
The Truth is Gold
pi_8919841
De Nazi's werden ge-inspireerd door de zogenaamde arisofie, de mythe
van het superieure arische ras als uitvloeisel van de Atlantiers (Thulers).

Het Thule-genootschap was een occulte loge dat hier richting aan gaf en de uitgever was van de Volkische Beobachter.
Aanverwante clubs waren het Vril-genootschap, de Stahlhelm en de Freikorpsen.

De eerste leden waren o.m. Baron Von Sebottendorf, Prof. Haushofer,
Rudolf Hess, Alfred Rosenberg, Adolf Hitler, Anton Dexler, Dittrich Eckart. In opdracht van de Duitse spionage-dienst richten ze mede de NSDAP op. Rosenberg schreef o.a.. "de mythe van de 20e eeuw"

De occulte Nazi-beweging had zijn basis onder leiding van Himmler in het Kasteel Wewelsberg bij Paderborn. Men organsiseerde met Haushofer expedities naar de Tibet/Hymalaya, Rennes-le Chateau, Bagdad en de Zuidpool om de wortels van het Arische ras te vinden.

Thule staat rechtstreeks in verband met de "Zwarte Orde", ofwel de Duitse Orde, ofwel de Teutoners.
Het begrip Lebensraum heeft hierin zijn oorsprong en de jodenvervolging
zal ongetwijffeld extra zijn aangesterkt door deze Thule-gedachten.

Morgen, dat beloof ik, gaat alles beter. Dan schijnt de zon, en dan zingen de vogels, dan waait er weer een frisse wind. [url]http://www.niburu.nl[/url] * [url]http://www.rense.com[/url] * [url]http://www.daanspeak.com[/url]
  vrijdag 7 maart 2003 @ 08:20:12 #2
41223 Wile_E_Coyote
Thank God I'm an atheist
pi_8926619
Allow me to paraphrase on this, using the masters of Comic Genius, i.e. Monty Python, in the persons of John Cleese en Michael Palin in the 'Fish License' sketch:
quote:
Clerk (Palin): You're a loony.

Praline (Cleese): I am not a loony. Why should I be tarred with the epithet 'loony' merely because I have a pet conspiracy theory?


Thank you.

[sub]Bron

Art is long and time is fleeting
And our hearts, though stout and brave
Still, like muffled drums are beating
Funeral marches to the grave
  vrijdag 7 maart 2003 @ 12:48:11 #3
35546 Wiking
Fuhrer befehl und wir folgen!
pi_8931775
quote:
de Stahlhelm
Stahlhelm was toch een overheidsorganisatie die zorg bood voor gewonde (WOI) soldaten, die na de oorlog door hun handicap geen ander werk meer konden doen?
quote:
Freikorpsen
Ook dit had niks te maken met occulte / volksche zaken; Het waren groepen gedemilitariseerde soldaten (Duitsland mocht na WOI nog maar een klein leger hebben), die nog als paramilitaire groepering bleven functioneren. Veel van deze vrijkorpsen voelden zich verraden door de linkse groeperingen in Duitsland (Deze waren volgens hen verantwoordelijk voor de capitulatie van 1918), en steunden daarom Hitler in zijn putch.

[Dit bericht is gewijzigd door Wiking op 07-03-2003 12:53]

Stem op de kraaienpartij!
  vrijdag 7 maart 2003 @ 16:03:57 #4
45622 merlin693
Huh ! Asmodeus & me
pi_8936845
hier is een link naar een bekende site

thule.org

zoek ook maar eens naar het verband met Vril (atlantean ?)

ik ben al een tijdje bezig all deze secret sociaty's met elkaar te linken om de puzzel op te lossen , hierdoor heb ik al heel wat artiekelen verzameld

quote:
Thule Society

In late 19th and early 20th century Germany and Austria there were many flourishing esoteric orders which sought to establish a reborn Germanic identity and to reconnect the volk with its repressed archetypes.

One of the most significant of these Orders was founded in Germany in 1912 - the German Order. From this sprang the Thule Society whose driving force was Rudolf von Serbottendorff. He had been schooled in occultism, Islamic mysticism, alchemy, Rosicrucianism and much else, in Turkey, where he had also been initiated into Freemasonry.

Thule served as the recruiting and political action front of the German Order. Serbottendorff bought a failing Munich newspaper, the Beobachter which he renamed the Volkische Beobachter and it became the official newspaper of the NSDAP.

A movement to promote Thulian ideas among industrial workers and to offset Marxism, was formed in 1918 - the Workers' Political Circle - with Thulist Karl Harrer as chairman. From this came the German Workers' Party in 1919. A year later this became the NSDAP under the leadership of Adolf Hitler.

Serbottendorff himself stated: "Thule members were the people to whom Hitler first turned and who first allied themselves with Hitler."

The Thule society was active in efforts to overthrow the Barvarian Communist Government. Their propaganda effort was aided by a journalist, poet, and occult student Dietrich Eckart, who was the major intellectual influence on Hitler in the early years. The swastika flag adopted by the NSDAP was the brain-child of another Thulist, Dr Krohn.

With the victory of the Nazi Party, the occult tradition was carried on in the Third Reich mainly by the SS, who Reichsfuhrer, Himmler, was an avid student of the occult. An SS occult research department, the Ahnernerbe (Ancestral Heritage) was established in 1935 with SS Colonel Wolfram von Sievers at its head. Occult research took SS researchers as far afield as Tibet. Sievers had the Tantrik prayer, the Bardo Thodol, read over his body after his execution at Nuremberg.

National Socialism and the Third Reich represented a major attempt by high esoteric Adepts to re-establish a Culture based on the Laws of Nature, against the entrenched forces of anti-Life. Nothing that ambitious had been tried since the founding of the American Republic by Masonic adepts.

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The Thule Society inner circle had the following beliefs
Thule was a legendary island in the far north, similar to Atlantis, supposedly the center of a lost, high-level civilization. But not all secrets of that civilization had been completely wiped out. Those that remained were being guarded by ancient, highly intelligent beings (similar to the "Masters" of Theosophy or the White Brotherhood).

The truly initiated could establish contact with these beings by means of magic-mystical rituals.

The "Masters" or "Ancients" allegedly would be able to endow the initiated with supernatural strength and energy.

With the help of these energies the goal of the initiated was to create a race of Supermen of "Aryan" stock who would exterminate all "inferior" races.

On April 6, 1919, in Bavaria, left wing socialists and anarchists proclaimed the Bavarian Soviet Republic. The brains of the revolution were a group of writers who had little idea of administration. Life in munich grew chaotic. The counter-revolutionary forces, the whites, composed of various groups of decommissioned soldiers known as "Frei Corps", equipped and financed by the mysterious Thule Society, defeated the Bavarian Soviet within a matter of weeks.

Many other decommissioned soldiers waited out the turbulence in barracks, pfc Adolph Hitler among them. After the Bavarian Republic had been defeated by the Whites, in May, Hitler's superiors put him to work in the post revolution investigating commission. His indictments injected ruthless efficiency into the kangaroo courts as he fingered hundreds of noncommissioned officers and enlisted men who had sympathized with the communist and anarchists. He was subsequently sent to attend special anticommunist training courses and seminars at the University which were financed by the Reichswehr administration and by private donors from the Thule Society.

This led to an assignment in the intelligence division of the postwar German army, to infiltrate groups that could organize the working classes while the communists were weak. On a September evening, 1919, Hitler turned up in the Sternecker Beer Hall where members and friends of the budding German Workers Party had gathered. He quietly listened to the presentation by engineer Gottfried Feder, a Thule Society member, who talked about jewish control over lending capital. When one of the other group members called for Bavaria to break away from the rest of Germany, Hitler sprang into action. The astonished audience stood by while his highly aggressive remarks and compelling oratory swept through the room. After Hitler had finished his harangue, party chairman and founder, Anton Drexler, immediately asked him to a meeting of the party's steering committee held a few days later. He was asked to join the committee as its seventh member, responsible for advertising and propaganda.

Back in 1912, several German occultists with radical anti-semitic inclinations decided to form a "magic" lodge, which they named the Order of Teutons. the main founders were Theodor Fritsch, a publisher of an anti-semitic journal; Philipp Stauff, pupil of the racist Guido Von List, and Hermann Pohl, the order's chancellor. (Pohl would drop out three years later to found his own bizarre lodge, the Walvater Teutonic Order of the Holy Grail.) The Order of Teutons was organized along the lines of the Free Masons or the Rosicrucians, having differing degrees of initiation, only persons who could fully document that they were of pure "aryan" ancestry were allowed to join.

In 1915, Pohl was joined by Rudolf Blauer, who held a Turkish passport and practiced sufi meditation. He also dabbled in astrology and was an admirer of Lanz Von Liebenfels and Guido Von List, both pathologically anti-semitic. Blauer went by the name of Rudolf Freiherr Von Seboottendorf. He was very wealthy, although the origin of his fortune is unknown. He became the Grand Master of the Bavarian Order and he founded the Thule Society, with Pohl's approval, in 1918.

After the Bavarian communist revolution of 1918, the Thule Society became a center of the counterrevolutionary subculture. An espionage network and arms caches were organized. The Thule Club rooms became a nest of resistance to the revolution and the Munich Soviet Republic.

Journalist Karl Harrer was given the job of founding a political "worker circle". He realized that the workers would reject any program that was presented to them by a member of the conservative "privileged" class. Harrer knew that the mechanic Anton Drexler, who was working for the railroads, was a well-known anti-semite, chauvinist and proletarian. With drexler as nominal chairman, Harrer founded the German Workers Party in January 1919

The German Workers Party was only one of many associations founded and controlled by the Thule Society. The Thule was the "mother" to the German Socialist Party, led by Julius Streicher, and the right-wing radical Oberland Free Corps. It published the Munich observer, which later became the National Observer. Hitler became the most prominent personality in the party. He caused Harrer to drop out, and he pushed Drexler, the nominal chairman, to the sidelines. He filled key positions with his own friends from the Thule Society and the Army. During the summer of 1920, upon his suggestion, the party was renamed the National Socialist German Worker Party (NASDAP). The new name was intended to equally attract nationalists and proletarians.

To go along with the new name his mass movement also required a flag with a powerful symbol. Among many designs under consideration, Hitler picked the one suggested by Thule member Dr. Krohn: a red cloth with a white circle in the middle containing a black swastika.

Hitler wanted to turn the German Workers Party into a mass-conscious fighting party, but Harrer and Drexler were hesitant, due in part to their woeful financial situation. The Thule Society was not yet supplying very much money and no one seemed to know how to build up a mass party. Hitler arranged two public meetings in obscure beer halls, and he drafted leaflets and posters, but there was no real breakthrough.

All of this changed dramatically at the end of the 1919 when Hitler met Dietrich Eckart. Most biographers have underestimated the influence that Eckart exerted on Hitler. He was the wealthy publisher and editor-in-chief of an anti-semitic journal which he called In Plain German. Eckart was also a committed occultist and a master of magic. As an initiate, Eckart belonged to the inner circle of the Thule Society as well as other esoteric orders.

There can be no doubt that Eckart - who had been alerted to Hitler by other Thulists - trained Hitler in techniques of self confidence, self projection, persuasive oratory, body language and discursive sophistry. With these tools, in a short period of time he was able to move the obscure workers party from the club and beer hall atmosphere to a mass movement. The emotion charged lay speaker became an expert orator, capable of mesmerizing a vast audience.

One should not underestimate occultism's influence on Hitler. His subsequent rejection of Free Masons and esoteric movements, of Theosophy, of Anthrosophy, does not necessarily mean otherwise. Occult circles have long been known as covers for espionage and influence peddling. Hitler's spy apparatus under Canaris and Heydrich were well aware of these conduits, particularly from the direction of Britain which had within its MI5 intelligence agency a department known as the Occult Bureau. That these potential sources of trouble were purged from Nazi life should not be taken to mean that Hitler and the Nazi secret societies were not influenced by mystical and occult writers such as Madame Blavatsky, Houston Stewart Chamberlain, Guido Von List, Lanz Von Liebenfels, Rudolf Steiner, George Gurdjieff, Karl Haushofer and Theodor Fritsch. Although Hitler later denounced and ridiculed many of them, he did dedicate his book Mein Kampf to his teacher Dietrich Eckart.

A frequent visitor to Landsberg Prison where Hitler was writing Mein Kampf with the help of Rudolf Hess, was General Karl Haushofer, a university professor and director of the Munich Institute of Geopolitics. Haushofer, Hitler, and Hess had long conversations together. Hess also kept records of these conversations. Hitler's demands for German "Living Space" in the east at the expense of the Slavic nations were based on the geopolitical theories of the learned professor.

Haushofer was also inclined toward the esoteric. as military attache in Japan, he had studied Zen-Buddhism. He had also gone through initiations at the hands of Tibetan Lamas. He became Hitler's second "esoteric mentor", replacing Dietrich Eckart. In Berlin, Haushofer had founded the Luminous Lodge or the Vril Society. The lodge's objective was to explore the origins of the Aryan race and to perform exercises in concentration to awaken the forces of "Vril". Haushofer was a student of the Russian magician and metaphysician Gregor Ivanovich Gurdyev (George Gurdjieff).

Both Gurdjeiff and Haushofer maintained that they had contacts with secret Tibetan Lodges that possessed the secret of the "Superman". The lodge included Hitler, Alfred Rosenberg, Himmler, Goring, and Hitler's subsequent personal physician Dr. Morell. It is also known that Aleister Crowley and Gurdjieff sought contact with Hitler. Hitler's unusual powers of suggestion become more understandable if one keeps in mind that he had access to the "secret" psychological techniques of the esoteric lodges. Haushofer taught him the techniques of Gurdjieff which, in turn, were based on the teachings of the Sufis and the Tibetan Lamas- and familiarized him with the Zen teaching of the Japanese Society of the Green Dragon.

in the latter half of the previous century, intriguing hints about Tibetan secret teachings had been carried to the west by Helena Blavatsky, who claimed initiation at the hands of the Holy Lamas themselves. Blavatsky taught that her "Hidden Masters" and "Secret Chiefs" had their earthly residence in the Himalayan region. As soon as the Nazi movement had sufficient funds, it began to organize a number of expeditions to Tibet and these succeeded one another practically without interruption until 1943. One of the most tangible expressions of Nazi interest in Tibet was the party`s adoption of its deepest and most mystical of symbols-the swastika.

The swastika is one of mankind's oldest symbols, and apart from the cross and the circle, probably the most widely distributed. It is shown on pottery fragments from Greece dating back to the eighth century b.c. It was used in ancient Egypt, India and China. The Navaho indians of North America have a traditional swastika pattern. Arab-Islamic sorcerers used it. In more recent times, it was incorporated in the flags of certain baltic states.

The idea for the use of the swastika by the Nazis came from a dentist named Dr. Friedrich Krohn who was a member of the secret Germanen order. Krohn produced the design for the actual form in which the Nazis came to use the symbol, that is reversed, spinning in an anti-clockwise direction. As a solar symbol, the swastika is properly thought of as spinning, and the Buddhists have always believed the symbol attracted luck. The Sanskrit word "svastika" means good fortune and well being. According to Cabbalistic lore and occult theory, chaotic force can be evoked by revers- ing the symbol. And so the symbol appeared as the flag of Nazi Germany and the insignia of the Nazi party, an indication for those who had eyes to see, as to the occult nature of the Third Reich.

From "The Unknown Hitler" by Wulf Schwartzwaller, Berkeley Books, 1990


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  vrijdag 7 maart 2003 @ 16:13:47 #5
45622 merlin693
Huh ! Asmodeus & me
pi_8937074
Vril Society - Black Sun - Dark Matter - Swastika
THE VRIL SOCIETY


The Black Forest Region

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Vril was the language spoken by the Atlanteans. It was composed of sounds and clicks.


In November of 1996 I received a video about Germany - Hitler (his occult links) - and Vril (linked to Atlantean timelines and language).

Part of that information stated:

"In Germany at the turn of the century and particularly after WW I many secret societies developed. One of these groups was the Vril Society.

"In 1917 four people met in a cafe in Vienna. There was one woman and three men. The woman was a 'spiritual medium'. They met under a veil of mystery and secrecy.

"They discussed secret revelations, the coming of the new age, the sphere of destiny, the magical violet black stone, and making contact with ancient peoples and distant worlds.

"Their source of power was the Black Sun, an infinite beam of light which though invisible to the human eye is real and there.

"The Vril emblem was the 'Black Sun' - a secret philosophy thousand of years old provided the foundation on which the occult practioners of the Third Reich would later build. The Black Sun symbol can be found in many Babylonian and Assyrian places of worship. They depicted the Black Sun - the godhead's inner light in the form of a cross. This was not much different from the German's Knight's Cross.

"With supposed channeled information from ET's, the Vril society built the Vril Machine. It was saucer shaped. It was supposedly an interdimensional or time travel machine. The first piloted flight was in 1934.

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1936 - Black Forest, Germany:

During this ten-year period, the Vril Society members were supposedly the first group to attempt the back-engineering of an extraterrestrial spacecraft. "A German writer, John Von Helsing, describes the discovery of a crashed saucer in the Black Forest in 1936 and says that this technology was taken and combined with the information the Vril Society had received through channeling and was made into a further project called the Haunebu,"

German aircraft historian Henry Stevens says. Haunebu 1 was supposedly the first large flying saucer developed in Germany. According to plans allegedly obtained from classified German SS files, the Haunebu 1 was approximately seventy-five feet in diameter and probably lifted off for the first time in August 1939, a few weeks before the outbreak of World War II. From "Sightings: UFOs"


THE BLACK SUN
In May of 1999 - I received an email from a woman who had an experience with the Black Sun.

In 1888 when she was in Florida she saw a sun with 'black rings' and a feathered circumference.

She is part Native American.

She goes by a name given to her by Spirit - 'White Feather'.

Though White Feather had not photographed the images - she created several drawings of them.


Here are three of White Feather's drawings.

From: An Illustrated Encyclopedia of Traditional Symbols : The Feathered Sun - the Black Sun - as a Plains Indian symbol with stylized feathers pointing both inwards and outwards; inward towards the centre and outward to the circumference; it combines the symbols of the sun and the eagle and depicts the universe; the center; solar power; radiation of power; majesty.

Originally, when White Feather saw the Black Sun the only thing she could think of calling it was the Donut Sun.

Oddly she ended up having coffee with a Native American who had also seen the Black Sun. The person who served her donuts.

She originally thought of the sun as 'The Eye in the Sky'.

{Eye of Ra, the sun God, perhaps!}

After talking to an Apache man she decided to call it the 'Lifesaver Sun'.

Hitler took his 'swastika' symbol from a sacred Native American symbol.


The word "swastika" comes from the Sanskrit words su, meaning "well," and asti, meaning 'to be.' An ancient symbol, the swastika was used in various forms by many civilizations all over the world. It was the sign of Thor's hammer for Scandinavians. It was used by early Christians as an alternative cross to avoid persecution, and by later Christians as a decorative emblem. It was widespread among Native American peoples. It appeared in ancient Oriental, Egyptian, and Irish cultures. Its origins are unknown, but its first use might have been as a solar calendar illustration.

Indians associate the swastika with good luck and protection from wrath. They mark it on doors, walls, shrines, and their own bodies. It can represent the sun, the god Vishnu, or the 'world-wheel.' It is one of the 24 auspicious marks in Jainism.

In the late nineteenth century, the swastika symbolized a movement celebrating Germanic culture, heritage, and nationalism. By 1912, this movement began to take on anti-Semitic undertones. Later, Adolph Hitler chose the swastika to be the symbol of the Nazi Party.

The Nazi swastika was a clockwise pointing swastika, whereas most Buddhist versions are counterclockwise.

There are many other historically documented uses of the swastika as a totem, a decoration, or a good luck "charm" in ancient civilizations including the Mesopotamians, Hindu, Native Americans (both North and South) and Scandinavians.

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The Reversed Swastika

In ancient times, the direction of the swastika was interchangeable as can be seen on an ancient Chinese silk drawing.

Some cultures in the past had differentiated between the clockwise swastika and the counter-clockwise sauvastika. In these cultures the swastika symbolized health and life while the sauvastika took on a mystical meaning of bad-luck or misfortune.

But since the Nazis use of the swastika, some people are trying to differentiate the two meanings of the swastika by varying its direction - trying to make the clockwise, Nazi version of the swastika mean hate and death while the counter-clockwise version would hold the ancient meaning of the symbol, life and good-luck.

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From The Book of the Hopi by Frank Waters

"The swastika symbol represents the path of the migrations of the Hopi clans.

"The center of the cross represents Tuwanasavi or the Center of the Universe which lay in what is now the Hopi country in the southwestern part of the US. Tuwanasavi was not the geographic center of North America, but the magnetic or spiritual center formed by the junction of the North-South and the East-West axws along which the Twins sent their vibratory messages and controlled the rotation of the planet.

"Three directions (pasos) for most of the clans were the same: the ice locked back door to the north, the Pacific Ocean to the west and the Atlantic Ocean to the east. Only 7 clans-the Bear, Eagle, Sun, Kachina, Parrot, Flute and Coyote clans-migrated to South America to the southern paso at it's tip. The rest of some 40 clans, having started from somewhere in southern Mexico or Central America, regarded this as their southern paso, their migration thus forming a balanced symbol."

"Upon arriving at each paso all the leading clans turned right before retracing their routes."

pi_8937549
quote:
Op vrijdag 7 maart 2003 16:03 schreef merlin693 het volgende:
hier is een link naar een bekende site

thule.org

zoek ook maar eens naar het verband met Vril (atlantean ?)

ik ben al een tijdje bezig all deze secret sociaty's met elkaar te linken om de puzzel op te lossen , hierdoor heb ik al heel wat artiekelen verzameld
[..]

mail mij als je bij dit forum wilt ,een hint staat ookin mijn onderschrift


Haha...trek je stop d'r uit!
  vrijdag 7 maart 2003 @ 16:55:18 #7
45622 merlin693
Huh ! Asmodeus & me
pi_8938087
dat will ik wel doen maar ik doe het wel in een rustig tempo zodat het te verteren valt !
  vrijdag 7 maart 2003 @ 18:39:06 #8
37676 freako
Onverbeterlijke optimist
pi_8940197
quote:
Op vrijdag 7 maart 2003 16:13 schreef merlin693 het volgende:

She goes by a name given to her by Spirit - 'White Feather'.


Geweldig, zelfs Arendsoog wordt erbij gehaald.
  vrijdag 7 maart 2003 @ 21:31:26 #9
37401 M.ALTA
The Truth is Gold
pi_8943735
Ik lees hier de betrokkenheid van de Amerikaanse elite (CFR) en de Amerikaanse geheime dienst bij de verkoop van "Mein Kampf".

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/2807/emhitler.html

Morgen, dat beloof ik, gaat alles beter. Dan schijnt de zon, en dan zingen de vogels, dan waait er weer een frisse wind. [url]http://www.niburu.nl[/url] * [url]http://www.rense.com[/url] * [url]http://www.daanspeak.com[/url]
  zaterdag 8 maart 2003 @ 09:27:54 #10
41223 Wile_E_Coyote
Thank God I'm an atheist
pi_8950167
Kan een modje dit aub naar TRU of (bij voorkeur) ONZ schoppen. Dit is geen Cultuur en het is al helemaaaaaaaal geen Historie!
Art is long and time is fleeting
And our hearts, though stout and brave
Still, like muffled drums are beating
Funeral marches to the grave
  maandag 17 maart 2003 @ 10:38:34 #11
1627 dutchie
Eámanë Súrion
pi_9173636
Ik twijfel om dit topic te verplaatsen. Ik laat 'm toch even staan.
Als je niet lacht, ben je dood.
  maandag 17 maart 2003 @ 10:47:22 #12
41223 Wile_E_Coyote
Thank God I'm an atheist
pi_9173798
quote:
Op maandag 17 maart 2003 10:38 schreef dutchie het volgende:
Ik twijfel om dit topic te verplaatsen. Ik laat 'm toch even staan.
Waarom? Conspiracy-theorieën horen elders thuis. Zowel Cultuur als Historie is gebaseerd op feiten, niet op aannames van dronken aardbeien..
Art is long and time is fleeting
And our hearts, though stout and brave
Still, like muffled drums are beating
Funeral marches to the grave
  dinsdag 18 maart 2003 @ 15:02:34 #13
1627 dutchie
Eámanë Súrion
pi_9206365
quote:
Op maandag 17 maart 2003 10:47 schreef Wile_E_Coyote het volgende:

[..]

Waarom? Conspiracy-theorieën horen elders thuis. Zowel Cultuur als Historie is gebaseerd op feiten, niet op aannames van dronken aardbeien..


Sja, zo ken ik er nog wel een paar.
Als je niet lacht, ben je dood.
  dinsdag 25 maart 2003 @ 04:12:05 #14
44458 daimler
zonder wielen..
pi_9354811
quote:
Op dinsdag 18 maart 2003 15:02 schreef dutchie het volgende:

[..]

Sja, zo ken ik er nog wel een paar.


Jeltsin?
Of course, you may well ask, why then are these people so determined to have their war? The answer is because. Just because.
pi_9369996
volgens mij spoorden die thuler jongens niet
  woensdag 28 mei 2003 @ 15:39:09 #16
37401 M.ALTA
The Truth is Gold
pi_10735091
Er ligt nu een nieuw boek in de boekhandel over Hess en Hitler die refereert aan Thule/Haushofer.

Verder:

http://www.intelinet.org/swastika/swastika_intro.htm

is trouwens een mooie site met esoterische achtergronden

Thule is denk ik veel ouder dan op het eerste geicht m.b.t. Vikingen of Noorse mythen.

Ik denk aan de Atlantische/Celtische tijd.
En zeker als je die geometrische symboliek bestudeerd.

Morgen, dat beloof ik, gaat alles beter. Dan schijnt de zon, en dan zingen de vogels, dan waait er weer een frisse wind. [url]http://www.niburu.nl[/url] * [url]http://www.rense.com[/url] * [url]http://www.daanspeak.com[/url]
  woensdag 28 mei 2003 @ 15:40:41 #17
41223 Wile_E_Coyote
Thank God I'm an atheist
pi_10735135
Ik denk aan een slotje. Cultuur noch historie.
Art is long and time is fleeting
And our hearts, though stout and brave
Still, like muffled drums are beating
Funeral marches to the grave
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