[AMV] Amerikaanse politiek #572: sleaze

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Op donderdag 1 november 2018 17:27 schreef clumsy_clown het volgende:

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jaredlholt twitterde op donderdag 01-11-2018 om 17:20:20 Wohl is now walking through the accusation, saying his client was "brutally raped" by Mueller. There's already inconsistencies between his account and the docs handed out. https://t.co/rM5I4FA7jH reageer retweet

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Saudi crown prince described slain journalist as a dangerous Islamist in call with White House

Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman described slain journalist Jamal Khashoggi as a dangerous Islamist days after his disappearance in a phone call with President Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner and national security adviser John Bolton, according to people familiar with the discussion.

In the call, which occurred before the kingdom publicly acknowledged killing Khashoggi, the crown prince urged Kushner and Bolton to preserve the U.S.-Saudi alliance and said the journalist was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, a group long opposed by Bolton and other senior Trump officials.

The attempt to criticize Khashoggi in private stands in contrast to the Saudi government’s later public statements decrying the journalist’s death as a “terrible mistake” and a “terrible tragedy.”

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A person familiar with the discussion said Bolton did not signal he endorsed the crown prince’s characterization of Khashoggi during the call.

A Saudi official on Wednesday denied that the crown prince made the allegations, saying “routine calls do exist from time to time” with the young leader and top U.S. officials, but “no such commentary was conveyed.”

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Other Middle East leaders have also come to the crown prince’s defense. In recent days, Egyptian President Abdel Fatah al-Sissi and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu have reached out to senior officials in the Trump administration to express support for the crown prince, arguing he is an important strategic partner in the region, said people familiar with the calls.

Israel, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates have united behind the Trump administration’s efforts to bring pressure on Iran and force through a Middle East peace deal between Israelis and Palestinians.

Other U.S. allies, notably Germany, Britain and France, have expressed serious concern about the killing of a man who wrote articles critical of the Saudi leadership in The Washington Post.

In response to the killing, the Trump administration has revoked the visas or made travel ineligible for 21 Saudi nationals implicated by Turkey and Saudi Arabia in Khashoggi’s death.

As U.S. officials contemplate a more robust response, Kushner has emphasized the importance of the U.S.-Saudi alliance in the region, said people familiar with the conversations.

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It was Kushner who pushed his father-in-law to make his first foreign trip to Riyadh, against the objections of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and warnings from Defense Secretary Jim Mattis. In the early days of the administration, Kushner often preferred to talk to the crown prince privately, but now coordinates his conversations with the National Security Council.

Kushner visited the crown prince at his palace in a secret October 2017 trip, a plan so closely held that it caught some White House and intelligence officials by surprise.

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Bron: WaPo

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brynnaquillin twitterde op donderdag 01-11-2018 om 19:19:05 Oprah is out knocking doors for @staceyabrams omg https://t.co/NLe7d2Vv7R reageer retweet

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Op donderdag 1 november 2018 20:01 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:
Oprah is op de deuren aan het kloppen voor Stacey Abrams. Deze mevrouw is de Democratische kandidaat in Georgia voor het gouverneurschap.

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brynnaquillin twitterde op donderdag 01-11-2018 om 19:19:05 Oprah is out knocking doors for @staceyabrams omg https://t.co/NLe7d2Vv7R reageer retweet

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Op donderdag 1 november 2018 20:01 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:
Oprah is op de deuren aan het kloppen voor Stacey Abrams. Deze mevrouw is de Democratische kandidaat in Georgia voor het gouverneurschap.

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brynnaquillin twitterde op donderdag 01-11-2018 om 19:19:05 Oprah is out knocking doors for @staceyabrams omg https://t.co/NLe7d2Vv7R reageer retweet

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IAStartingLine twitterde op donderdag 01-11-2018 om 17:56:52 Steve King blows up at questioner who pressed him on the Pittsburgh massacre #IA04 https://t.co/7sFQyY9fOW reageer retweet

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Op donderdag 1 november 2018 21:00 schreef Chewie het volgende:

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Op een gegeven moment zou het toch uitgewerkt moeten zijn maar ja de GOP gebruikt die tactiek al geruime tijd, het gaat alleen nu in de hoogste versnelling.

Beste wat de democraten er tegenover kunnen zetten is een positieve kandidaat zoals Obama was en Bill Clinton begin jaren 90.

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Op donderdag 1 november 2018 21:10 schreef Chewie het volgende:

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Ja dat denk ik wel, geloof er ook weinig van dat Sanders in 2016 van Trump zou hebben gewonnen, de PV wellicht wel. De Democraten zijn ook eigenlijk helemaal niet zo links als de GOP ons wil doen geloven. Het is de GOP die steeds extremer is geworden.

Sanders is ook te oud vind ik, moet toch wel een goede laat 40'er/50'er te vinden zijn.

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Op donderdag 1 november 2018 21:20 schreef Chewie het volgende:

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Zelfs de VVD heeft meer overeenkomsten met de Democraten.

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So @jaketapper points out that the President, who said only 3% of asylum seekers show up court dates, was wrong.

Nope. It’s 76%, and was up to 99% under a new pilot program President Trump ended.

So just a completely entirely false misleading stat off by 10x.
https://twitter.com/TheToddSchulte/status/1058099409790099456

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Luis Bracamontes, Cop-Killer in Trump’s Twitter Video, Actually Came Back to U.S. Under Bush
Trump also failed to mention that Bracamontes used an AR-15, a weapon that Republicans, including the president, don’t want to outlaw.

President Trump tweeted out a video on Wednesday designed to gin up fears of illegal immigration prior to the midterm elections. The spot, which drew comparisons to the infamous Willie Horton ad for its bigoted undertones, featured Luis Bracamontes, an undocumented immigrant who has been convicted and sentenced to death for murdering two deputies in Sacramento, California:

“Democrats Let him stay!” the ad declares.

And: “It is outrageous what the Democrats are doing to our Country. Vote Republican now!”

Except, that’s not the story.

Bracamontes was first deported to his native Mexico in 1997, during the Clinton administration, after he was busted selling drugs. But, according to U.S. Immigration officials, Bracamontes managed return to the United States by 2001, when he was deported a second time for being in the country illegally. That was during the first year of the Bush administration.

Bracamontes was back in America again by 2002. He married a U.S. citizen and remained in the country even as the Bush administration deported people at a record rate, topped only by the Obama administration.

When Bracamontes shot and killed the two deputies in 2014, he had been deported once under a Democratic administration and once under a Republican administration. He had been back in the United States for at least six years during the Bush administration and five years under the Obama administration.

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Op donderdag 1 november 2018 22:59 schreef Tweek het volgende:
Killer in Trump’s Twitter Video, Actually Came Back to U.S. Under Bush
Trump also failed to mention that Bracamontes used an AR-15, a weapon that Republicans, including the president, don’t want to outlaw.

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Op donderdag 1 november 2018 23:04 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:

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De laatste paar dagen gaan ze wel echt vol op het racistische orgel, niet te geloven. Ik ben echt niet iemand die achter elke boom een racist ziet, verre van zelfs, maar dit is echt waanzinnig.

Kun je nagaan hoe het er in 2020 uit gaat zien als blijkt dat deze strategie succes heeft?

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Op donderdag 1 november 2018 23:04 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:

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De laatste paar dagen gaan ze wel echt vol op het racistische orgel, niet te geloven. Ik ben echt niet iemand die achter elke boom een racist ziet, verre van zelfs, maar dit is echt waanzinnig.

Kun je nagaan hoe het er in 2020 uit gaat zien als blijkt dat deze strategie succes heeft?

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The Maricopa County (Ariz.) Sheriff’s Office has told The Sacramento Bee previously that he was first arrested in Phoenix in 1996. Prosecutors in Phoenix say he was arrested Sept. 25, 1996, on deportable drug offenses related to marijuana possession and sentenced to four months in jail starting in January 1997.

Bracamontes served his time in then-Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s tent-city jail, then was handed over to federal immigration agents and deported on June 3, 1997, during Clinton’s second term.

He apparently did not stay in Mexico long. Records in Arizona show he was arrested on drug charges again in Phoenix in 1998, then released “for reasons unknown” by Arpaio’s office. Arpaio is a Republican.

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Op vrijdag 2 november 2018 00:02 schreef Tweek het volgende:

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https://www.sacbee.com/ne(...)rticle220960015.html

Truth is stranger then fiction.

Maar ja, als deze campagne volgende week succes heeft zie ik het somber in voor de VS.

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Op vrijdag 2 november 2018 00:34 schreef ExtraWaskracht het volgende:

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Mja, dat "links" te snel zou roepen dat mensen zouden discrimineren was ooit de politieke correctheid. Ik was het destijds er trouwens mee eens dat er die politieke correctheid te ver ging (Bolkestein!).

De huidige politieke correctheid is dat je racisten niet racisten meer mag noemen, omdat vroeger in het publieke debat te veel mensen racist genoemd werden. Bijgevolg is dat je rechtse partisans van dit kaliber steeds verder het afvoerputje in ziet glijden.

Dus ja, zelfs al zou je winnen, waarbij het me niet duidelijk is wat je als winnen ziet, dan nog blijft dat wegglijden denk ik. Ik zie geen stoppende kracht tenzij de Fox News kanker bij de bron aangepakt wordt.

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politico twitterde op vrijdag 02-11-2018 om 00:15:04 Trump lost television audiences on Thursday as he made fiery remarks on immigration and the nation’s asylum system that deviated from what was expected to be a meaningful policy speech https://t.co/3wqr3PB25s reageer retweet

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President Donald Trump, normally accustomed to wall-to-wall coverage, lost television audiences on Thursday as he made fiery remarks on immigration and the nation’s asylum system that deviated from what was expected to be a meaningful policy speech.

The resistance came from at least two networks that have previously been targets of the president’s anti-media rhetoric: CNN and MSNBC. In CNN’s case, the network cut away from the remarks to the customary panel of analysts that dissects a complicated policy change. According to host Jake Tapper, the White House tried to reel networks in by promising a policy change.

Instead, what viewers across the country got was a focused version of the speech Trump has been giving while stumping for candidates across the country ahead of the midterms, warning that Central American immigrants who are hundreds of miles — and weeks — away from reaching the country were “rushing the border.” He also said that law enforcement at the border should treat any rocks thrown at agents as “rifles.”

Tapper was having none of it.

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