Turkse politie denkt dat verdwenen journalist is vermoord in consulaat

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Op woensdag 17 oktober 2018 10:21 schreef Slayage het volgende:

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als je bekijkt hoe overtuigend amerikaanse turkse politici reageren over de moord. kan het haast niet anders en ondertussen is MBS spoorloos, die is waarschijnlijk geparkeerd door de familie na deze schandalige actie van hem.

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Op woensdag 17 oktober 2018 10:24 schreef nixxx het volgende:

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Ik wacht het even af 😊 verder hou ik me inhoudelijk graag wat op de vlakte... groeten uit Saudi Arabie

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PeterRdeV twitterde op dinsdag 16-10-2018 om 13:48:23 Het Saoedische verhaal wordt nu dat Jamal Khashoggi 'per ongeluk' tijdens verhoor overleed... ze hebben alleen maar wat waterboarding en elektrocutie toegepast en af en toe wat klappen en trappen gegeven om zijn geheugen op te frissen... Dan verwacht je zoiets niet. #badluck reageer retweet

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Op woensdag 17 oktober 2018 10:27 schreef Slayage het volgende:

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srsl?

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Op woensdag 17 oktober 2018 10:43 schreef nixxx het volgende:

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Srsly! Lekker olie produceren en geld binnenharken.

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Op woensdag 17 oktober 2018 11:48 schreef Slayage het volgende:
opiniestuk van de verloofde van kashoggi in de new york times

My Fiancé Jamal Khashoggi Was a Lonely Patriot

His ideas will reverberate from Turkey to Saudi Arabia and beyond. Oppression never lasts forever. Tyrants eventually pay for their sins.

goed stuk in bloomberg vanuit turkse POV waar wordt beschreven hoe de turken graag dit gebeuren zouden willen gebruiken om de banden met de vs en saudi te verbeteren

Khashoggi Murder Claim Gives Turkey Leverage Over Saudis and Trump

Evidence showing journalist was killed hasn't been revealed
Turkey in midst of turn from villain to victim, U.S. partner

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Op woensdag 17 oktober 2018 12:22 schreef WammesWaggel het volgende:
Het imago van Turkije als redelijke partner is in de VS nu ook wel weg lijkt mij zo, een eventuele rapprochement zal puur uit praktische beweegredenen en flinterdun zijn.

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Op woensdag 17 oktober 2018 16:38 schreef polderturk het volgende:
De krant Yeni Safak zegt audio opnames on handen te hebben. Eerst worden de vingers afgehakt. Daarna wordt zijn hoofd eraf gehakt.

De consul zegt "Doe dit ergens anders. Ik kom in de problemen door jullie". Het antwoord: "Houd je mond als je wil blijven leven".

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Op woensdag 17 oktober 2018 16:46 schreef zarGon het volgende:
Beetje jammer weer van NOS, dat ze Yeni Şafak als bron gebruiken. Die krant is alleen nuttig om vliegen mee te meppen.

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In hoeverre de versies van de Turkse krant en de overheidsbron betrouwbaar zijn, is onduidelijk. In Turkije wordt vaker 'gelekt' naar media om druk te zetten op een zaak.

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Op woensdag 17 oktober 2018 16:38 schreef polderturk het volgende:
De krant Yeni Safak zegt audio opnames on handen te hebben.

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Op woensdag 17 oktober 2018 19:26 schreef TLC het volgende:
Paar bommetjes gooien op de oliesjeiks daar in SA dan zijn we daar van af

President Trump Meets with Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

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Op woensdag 17 oktober 2018 19:26 schreef TLC het volgende:
Paar bommetjes gooien op de oliesjeiks daar in SA dan zijn we daar van af

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Evangelical leader: Not worth risking ties with Saudi Arabia over missing journalist

A prominent evangelical leader told viewers to “cool down the tempers of those who are screaming blood for the Saudis” and not risk a $100 billion arms deal over the apparent death of Saudi-born journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

Appearing on Christian television show The 700 Club, Pat Robertson, founder of the Christian Broadcasting Network, said America’s relationship with Saudi Arabia is too important to risk.

“These people are key allies,” Robertson said Monday on the show, first reported by Vox. “I don’t think on this issue we need pull sanctions and get tough. I just think it’s a mistake.”

Robertson advocated for behind-the-scenes diplomacy instead of publicly leveling harsh sanctions. He repeatedly invoked the more-than-$100-billion arms deal between Saudi Arabia and the U.S. as reason not to go after the country widely viewed as the culprit behind Khashoggi’s disappearance.

“We’ve got an arms deal that everybody wanted a piece of,” he said. “It’ll be a lot of jobs, a lot of money come to our coffers. It’s not something you want to blow up willy-nilly.”

Robertson re-appeared on the program Tuesday, once again calling for the “cooling of the rhetoric.” He said Iran — not Saudi Arabia — is the biggest threat in the Middle East and should be treated as such.

He said leveling harsh punishment on Saudi Arabia would alienate a key ally in the region.

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 00:53 schreef BansheeBoy het volgende:
Dit zag ik 50 jaar geleden al aankomen. Saudi-Arabië is altijd al een doorn in het oog geweest van het Westen. Maar toen waren ze te machtig, te rijk en nodig. Maar nu speelt Saudi-Arabië een steeds kleinere rol van betekenis op wereldschaal. Het gebruik van aardolie daalt en daalt. En dan heb je nog Iran met gigantische olievoorraden. Ik voorzie een aanval op KSA op niet al te lange termijn. Het gebruikelijke protocol is reeds in werking gezet:

Krijg de publieke opinie mee om draagkracht te krijgen voor je plannen

Jason

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 10:15 schreef Edding345 het volgende:

Wat is er mis met Turkije?

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 10:31 schreef Slayage het volgende:
dit zal toch niet waar zijn?!!

Saudi suspect in Khashoggi case ‘dies in car accident’: Report

A Turkish newspaper reported on Oct. 18 that one of the suspects involved in the disappearance of Saudi writer Jamal Khashoggi died in a “suspicious car accident” in Riyadh.

Mashal Saad al-Bostani, a 31-year-old lieutenant of the Saudi Royal Air Forces, was among the 15 suspects who arrived and left Turkey on Oct. 2 after going to Saudi Arabia’s Istanbul consulate when Khashoggi visited there, according to daily Yeni Şafak.

The newspaper said sources did not release any details about the traffic accident in Riyadh and Bostani’s role in the “murder” was not yet clear.

die turken ook

Voor Turkije komt de verdwijning van Khashoggi goed van pas

Met gruwelijke details uit de zaak-Khashoggi lijkt Turkije te willen stoken in de relatie tussen Saudi-Arabië en de VS.

kennelijk heeft de politie aanwijzingen waar het lijk zou zijn

Turkish police to extend search for Khashoggi to Istanbul forest, farm house in neighboring province: Report

A Turkish newspaper reported Oct. 18 that Turkish police will extend the search for missing Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi to a forest in Istanbul and a farm house in the neighboring province of Yalova.

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Op woensdag 17 oktober 2018 21:49 schreef Jellereppe het volgende:
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A frequent companion of Saudi Arabia’s crown prince entered the country’s consulate in Istanbul just hours before Jamal Khashoggi, a dissident writer, disappeared inside, according to a time-stamped photograph published on Thursday by a pro-government Turkish newspaper.

The photograph of the companion, who has been previously identified as Maher Abdulaziz Mutreb, is one of the most striking pieces of evidence to date linking Mr. Khashoggi’s Oct. 2 disappearance and possible death to the crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman.

The Saudi authorities have denied any involvement but have provided no information on Mr. Khashoggi’s fate and say they are investigating as well.

The Turkish newspaper, Sabah, also showed photographs of Mr. Mutreb outside the Saudi consul general’s home, leaving a Turkish hotel with a large suitcase, and leaving the country from Istanbul’s international airport — all later that day.

Time stamps on the photographs, which Sabah said had been taken from closed-circuit television, showed Mr. Mutreb entering the Saudi consulate at 9:55 a.m., at the consul general’s home at 4:45 p.m., leaving an Istanbul hotel at 5:15 p.m., and at the airport at 5:58 p.m. to leave Turkey.

Mr. Khashoggi, 60, a Washington Post columnist whose disappearance has caused an international uproar and deeply tarnished the Saudi government’s image, entered the consulate at about 1:15 p.m. He was never seen leaving.

The Turkish government has been leaking details in the domestic press that suggest that a 15-member hit team from Saudi Arabia, including Mr. Mutreb, assassinated Mr. Khashoggi inside the consulate, severing his fingers and decapitating and dismembering him.

On Tuesday, The New York Times linked Mr. Mutreb and at least three others among the 15 suspects to Crown Prince Mohammed’s security detail. Mr. Mutreb had previously been seen in photographs of the crown prince’s three-week visit to the United States this year.

The Khashoggi case has presented an enormous quandary to the Trump administration, which has embraced Crown Prince Mohammed as a valued ally ever since President Trump took office.
In a new sign of tension, Mr. Trump’s Treasury Secretary, Steven Mnuchin, said Thursday he would not attend a high-profile investment conference in Saudi Arabia next week that had been promoted by the crown prince. Mr. Mnuchin joined an exodus of other prominent financial and business figures who have canceled plans to attend.

Despite growing evidence linking the Saudi monarchy to Mr. Khashoggi’s disappearance, Mr. Trump and his secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, have sought to defend their measured response to the crisis and have stressed the value of the United States-Saudi relationship. Mr. Pompeo visited Saudi Arabia and Turkey earlier this week.

On Thursday, after he briefed Mr. Trump at the White House, Mr. Pompeo told reporters that he had emphasized to the Saudis how seriously the United States was taking the Khashoggi case.

“They made clear to me that they, too, understand the serious nature of the disappearance of Mr. Khashoggi,” Mr. Pompeo said in brief remarks. “They also assured me that they will conduct a complete, thorough investigation of all of the facts surrounding Mr. Khashoggi and that they’ll do so in a timely fashion.”

Mr. Pompeo, a former director of the C.I.A., referred to Mr. Khashoggi’s “disappearance” despite reports from American intelligence agencies, which are increasingly convinced that Mr. Khashoggi was killed.

The secretary of state also reminded reporters of America’s long “strategic” relationship with the Saudis, dating back to 1932, and he said the kingdom remained an “important counterterrorism partner.”

In another sign of growing pressure on the Saudis, a coalition of human-rights and press-freedom advocacy groups said Thursday that Turkey should seek an independent United Nations investigation into Mr. Khashoggi’s disappearance and possible killing.

The coalition included the Committee to Protect Journalists, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International and Reporters Without Borders.

“U.N. involvement is the best guarantee against a Saudi whitewash or attempts by other governments to sweep the issue under the carpet to preserve lucrative business ties with Riyadh,” Robert Mahoney, deputy executive director of the Committee to Protect Journalists, said in a statement.

It was unclear at best, however, when or if a United Nations inquiry would be undertaken.

Asked about that possibility at a daily briefing, Stéphane Dujarric, a spokesman for Secretary General António Guterres, suggested it was premature.

Mr. Guterres believes in “taking things one step at a time,” Mr. Dujarric said.

The secretary general also had made clear to both Saudi Arabia and Turkey that the facts surrounding the Khashoggi case need to come out, Mr. Dujarric said.

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AP twitterde op donderdag 18-10-2018 om 22:05:38 BREAKING: Trump says it 'certainly looks' like Saudi writer is dead, pledges 'severe' consequences if Saudi royals are responsible. reageer retweet

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 22:06 schreef Infection het volgende:

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AP twitterde op donderdag 18-10-2018 om 22:05:38 BREAKING: Trump says it 'certainly looks' like Saudi writer is dead, pledges 'severe' consequences if Saudi royals are responsible. reageer retweet

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ISTANBUL — The rulers of Saudi Arabia are considering blaming a top intelligence official close to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman for the killing of Jamal Khashoggi, three people with knowledge of the Saudi plans said Thursday.

The plan to assign blame to Gen. Ahmed al-Assiri, a high-ranking adviser to the crown prince, would be an extraordinary recognition of the magnitude of international backlash to hit the kingdom since the death of Mr. Khashoggi, a prominent Saudi dissident. A resident of Virginia and contributor to The Washington Post, Mr. Khashoggi was last seen entering the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul on Oct. 2.

Blaming General Assiri could also provide a plausible explanation for the killing and help deflect blame from the crown prince, who American intelligence agencies are increasingly convinced was behind Mr. Khashoggi’s disappearance.

Etc.

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 22:10 schreef Szura het volgende:

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Ze hebben al bepaald voor wie die consequenties zijn

https://www.nytimes.com/2(...)ng-saudi-arabia.html

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 16:15 schreef Slayage het volgende:

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Kennelijk was het gesprek veel zakelijker dan de foto's doen blijken.

Pompeo gave crown prince 72 hours to finish Khashoggi probe: report

According to Axios, Pompeo told the prince he had 72 hours to finish the probe to shed light into Khashoggi's disappearance and find out if murder allegations were true if he wanted to avoid tarnishing Saudi Arabia's "place on the world stage."

While both of them were smiling in front of the cameras, the meeting was in a much more serious tone as Pompeo insisted the case was not something Saudi Arabia would casually dismiss and that the truth behind the disappearance would come out eventually, the report said.

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 22:28 schreef Szura het volgende:

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72 uur heeft de haatprins om zich te ontdoen van die hitsquad zodat niemand van hen ooit zal kunnen spreken:

https://www.telegraaf.nl/(...)j-mysterieus-ongeluk

Verkeersongeluk

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 22:35 schreef vipergts het volgende:

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Waarom hebben ze zoiets met die Khashoggi niet gedaan dan. Er moeten toch onopvallendere manieren te verzinnen zijn als iemand in je eigen ambassade levend in stukken snijden. Nu moet je capabele mensen op gaan ruimen.

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 09:13 schreef marsan het volgende:

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En dat afslachten van een journalist is natuurlijk bijzaak.

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 22:38 schreef ladytrump het volgende:

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Ze hebben hem door de gehaktmolen heen gehaald

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 23:17 schreef WammesWaggel het volgende:
Kofta dus, helaas eet ik geen vlees meer.

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 23:17 schreef WammesWaggel het volgende:
Kofta dus, helaas eet ik geen vlees meer.

How To Make, Skewer & Cook Adana Kebab

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Op donderdag 18 oktober 2018 23:18 schreef Jellereppe het volgende:

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Precies, kofta/kefta. Waarom niet?