BNW Brave New World
Samenzwering, verborgen agenda's en geheime geschiedenis. De zoektocht naar de wereld die achter de façade van alledag ligt.
I saw and posted this a few years ago. Good to watch it again.
Part 2 is more about the construction of the perimeter walls, core columns and floors.
The Building of the Twin Towers (1983) Pt.1
The aerial shots of New York in the late 60's are of better quality than the ones we saw in the 9/11 TV movie 30-odd years later.
Part 2 is more about the construction of the perimeter walls, core columns and floors.
The Building of the Twin Towers (1983) Pt.1
The aerial shots of New York in the late 60's are of better quality than the ones we saw in the 9/11 TV movie 30-odd years later.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Als je dat doet is het antwoord compleet anders dan wat jij er van maakt.quote:Op vrijdag 5 oktober 2018 00:38 schreef Tingo het volgende:
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I don't need to - you can look up kinetic energy for yourself.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
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I've no doubt that there are anti-tank missles, RPG's etc. that would cause a lot of damage to the perimeter steel beams.
Because they are designed to damage/penetrate thick steel armour for example.
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The projectile is very relevant. The results of the impact from different projectiles would be very different.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
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Deze quora pagina is het lezen wel waard. veel goede comments eronder. Ook oa die van John Precht:quote:Op donderdag 4 oktober 2018 20:34 schreef tja77 het volgende:
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Ik kan onmogelijk dit filmpje uit mijn gedachten krijgen.
Zie wat een houten telefoonpaal op de vleugel qua schade aan kan richten. 1 Zo’n stalen kolom is niet 10 keer maar nog vele malen meer sterker dan een houten paal. En daar waren er tientallen van.
En dan kan de snelheid hoger zijn of de vleugel wat dikker, maar het verschil valt in het niet ten opzichte van het verschil tussen WTC en een houten telefoonpaal.
https://www.quora.com/On-(...)t-through-the-towers
How could the planes possibly be able to cut through the thick steel perimeter columns of the World Trade Center towers?
The thing is, a lot of the columns weren't..
Alpha kenny one
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Why are you trying to compare military weapons with a passenger jet?
Why do you think that the projectile is not relevant?
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In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Omdat je moet lezen wat ik schrijf, en ik me maar blijf herhalen. Maar het is wel goed zo, blijkbaar ga je dit gewoon om wat voor reden dan ook niet snappen.quote:
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Why are you trying to compare military weapons with a passenger jet?
Why do you think that the projectile is not relevant?
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Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
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-edit- Most of US know that they are capable of penetrating steel....you seem to think that they behave in the same way as a passenger jet even though they are designed for and serve completely different purposes .-edit-quote:
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Omdat je moet lezen wat ik schrijf, en ik me maar blijf herhalen. Maar het is wel goed zo, blijkbaar ga je dit gewoon om wat voor reden dan ook niet snappen.
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In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Nope, dat doe ik helemaal niet. Ik vergelijk een RPG versus een kleine plaat staal met een RPG versus een grote plaat staal.quote:
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Most of US know that they are capable of penetrating steel....you seem to think that they behave in the same way as a passenger jet even though they are designed for and serve completely different purposes
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Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
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OK - but an explosive projectile is not relevant to the issue we are TRYING to discuss here.quote:
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Nope, dat doe ik helemaal niet. Ik vergelijk een RPG versus een kleine plaat staal met een RPG versus een grote plaat staal.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Moet ik me nou nog een keer herhalen dat dat het punt niet was....quote:
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OK - but an explosive projectile is not relevant to the issue we are TRYING to discuss here.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
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Great little film which has been posted a few times here over the years and certainly worth seeing again. Thanks.quote:
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Ik kan onmogelijk dit filmpje uit mijn gedachten krijgen.
Zie wat een houten telefoonpaal op de vleugel qua schade aan kan richten. 1 Zo’n stalen kolom is niet 10 keer maar nog vele malen meer sterker dan een houten paal. En daar waren er tientallen van.
En dan kan de snelheid hoger zijn of de vleugel wat dikker, maar het verschil valt in het niet ten opzichte van het verschil tussen WTC en een houten telefoonpaal.
It shouldn't take too much effort to imagine 40 vertical steel girders (36x36cmx2 or 3cm thickness on all four sides) with only 55cm (windows) between them. And then with the additional strength of all the horizontal beams,steel floor pans and reinforced concrete floors.
The plane would not go through them – it would come to an abrupt halt and be smashed up on the outside of the steel columns.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
So what? Dat is toch volledig in lijn met het officiële 911 verhaal?quote:
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Ik kan onmogelijk dit filmpje uit mijn gedachten krijgen.
Zie wat een houten telefoonpaal op de vleugel qua schade aan kan richten. 1 Zo’n stalen kolom is niet 10 keer maar nog vele malen meer sterker dan een houten paal. En daar waren er tientallen van.
En dan kan de snelheid hoger zijn of de vleugel wat dikker, maar het verschil valt in het niet ten opzichte van het verschil tussen WTC en een houten telefoonpaal.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
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Niet toch. Want dan zouden de vleugels van vliegtuigen niet door beton met staal heen moeten kunnen.quote:
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So what? Dat is toch volledig in lijn met het officiële 911 verhaal?
Waarom niet?quote:
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Niet toch. Want dan zouden de vleugels van vliegtuigen niet door beton met staal heen moeten kunnen.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
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Oh yes it is, and very much so.quote:
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Ik zal mezelf nog eens herhalen dan. Het projectiel is compleet irrelevant voor dit voorbeeld. Het gaat om het verschil in formaat van het doelwit.
“the response of an armour is primarily determined by material strength and toughness and projectile type”
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/1024201.pdf
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
I think all of or at least most of us (sigh) can agree that if a plane smashed into a huge steel-framed building that it would be heard and felt many storeys above and below the impact point.quote:
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Leuk al die rondstamperij maar dat hele absorberen heb je nog steeds nergens onderbouwd.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_energy
“Sound is a mechanical wave and as such consists physically in oscillatory elastic compression and in oscillatory displacement of a fluid. Therefore, the medium acts as storage for both potential and kinetic energy as well”
Vibrational Kinetic Energy
“Vibrational kinetic energy is moving energy that is caused when a mass or object is vibrating. A common example would be a cell phone that vibrates upon receiving a phone call, or an instrument (such as a symbol) being struck. The energy created from the vibrations creates the kinetic energy.”
Or when a passenger jet smashes into a steel framed building.
Kinetic energy would travel/reverberate/resonate (depending also very much on the type of projectile) throughout all or at least most of the steel frame of the building....and through some of the reinforced concrete as well.
There would not be anywhere near enough kinetic energy, concentrated at particular points on the steel perimeter columns, to cause the damage we saw (and are expected to believe) in the 9/11 TV imagery.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Precies, en niet afhankelijk van de massa van het pantserquote:
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Oh yes it is, and very much so.
“the response of an armour is primarily determined by material strength and toughness and projectile type”
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/1024201.pdf
Grote plaat of kleine plaat maakt niet zo veel uit, wat jouw eerdere claim dus tegen spreekt.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
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I think all of or at least most of us (sigh) can agree that if a plane smashed into a huge steel-framed building that it would be heard and felt many storeys above and below the impact point.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_energy
“Sound is a mechanical wave and as such consists physically in oscillatory elastic compression and in oscillatory displacement of a fluid. Therefore, the medium acts as storage for both potential and kinetic energy as well”
Vibrational Kinetic Energy
“Vibrational kinetic energy is moving energy that is caused when a mass or object is vibrating. A common example would be a cell phone that vibrates upon receiving a phone call, or an instrument (such as a symbol) being struck. The energy created from the vibrations creates the kinetic energy.”
Or when a passenger jet smashes into a steel framed building.
Kinetic energy would travel/reverberate/resonate (depending also very much on the type of projectile) throughout all or at least most of the steel frame of the building....and through some of the reinforced concrete as well.
There would not be anywhere near enough kinetic energy, concentrated at particular points on the steel perimeter columns, to cause the damage we saw (and are expected to believe) in the 9/11 TV imagery.
Nope, dat is niet hoe het werkt. Je doet hier alsof het complete gebouw overal gelijk geraakt werd, terwijl die impact juist op 1 locatie geconcentreerd was.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
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So now you agree that the projectile is relevant. Thats a quick about turn.quote:
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Precies, en niet afhankelijk van de massa van het pantser
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Hoe kom je daar nou weer bij?quote:
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So now you agree that the projectile is relevant. Thats a quick about turn.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
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I don't understand what you find so 'funny'. The kinetic energy would spread throughout the steel-frame in the form of sound and vibrations.quote:
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Nope, dat is niet hoe het werkt. Je doet hier alsof het complete gebouw overal gelijk geraakt werd, terwijl die impact juist op 1 locatie geconcentreerd was.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Some of it sure, not all of it.quote:
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I don't understand what you find so 'funny'. The kinetic energy would spread throughout the steel-frame in the form of sound and vibrations.
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
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“the response of an armour is primarily determined by material strength and toughness and projectile type”quote:
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/1024201.pdf
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Precies, material strength! Het type projectiel is juist een constante in mijn voorbeeld.quote:
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“the response of an armour is primarily determined by material strength and toughness and projectile type”
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/1024201.pdf
Egregious professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography
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Different projectiles behave in very different manners. You should know that.quote:
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Precies, material strength! Het type projectiel is juist een constante in mijn voorbeeld.
In the new 'reality' we will be living in,nothing will be real and everything will be true-David A.McGowan
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
Why do some people not credit the origin of the quotes they use under their posts?- Tingo
