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  Moderator dinsdag 5 december 2017 @ 14:18:42 #181
1212 crew  Mike
Excellent!
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Dit zal vanavond ook nog wel even scheve blikken veroorzaken in het Witte huis:

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According to a new report in The Atlantic, in the wake of the explosive Access Hollywood tape, then-vice-presidential candidate Mike Pence contemplated a ballot coup against then-candidate Donald Trump, and a small group of billionaire donors were weighing the possibility of paying the firebrand $800 million to drop out of the race. “Within hours” of The Washington Post story about the tape, Pence “made it clear to the Republican National Committee that he was ready to take Trump’s place as the party’s nominee,” McKay Coppins reports. At the same time, multiple donors entertained the possibility of offering Trump enough money to walk away from the election. According to Coppins, “Republican donors and party leaders began buzzing about making Pence the nominee and drafting Condoleezza Rice as his running mate.”
In some matters there's no reality, only perception. Truth exists, but people have a vested interest in not knowing it.
  Overall beste user 2022 dinsdag 5 december 2017 @ 14:18:55 #182
3928 Ulx
you aint no punk you punk
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Trump's Russia defense in disarray

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President Donald Trump's legal defense against Robert Mueller's unrelenting special counsel investigation is beginning to look as chaotic as his early days in the White House.

A sequence of reflexive tweets and comments about the Russia probe from the White House and Trump's legal team has spectacularly backfired, suggesting that the administration was knocked off balance by news of Michael Flynn's plea deal and raising questions about whether its struggles reflect a deteriorating legal position for the President.

The fallout from Friday's bombshell consumed several days when Trump should have been highlighting his biggest political win yet after the Senate passed a tax reform bill, and may well have deepened his legal and political jeopardy.
Comparisons to the chaos, confusion and disinformation that raged in the first weeks and months of Trump's presidency -- before Chief of Staff John Kelly began to impose comparative discipline on the White House staff, if not the mercurial President -- are appropriate for another reason.

Key events from those days, including the decisions by Trump to hire and fire Flynn as his national security adviser and his fateful decision to oust FBI Director James Comey, are haunting the President to this day and are at the heart of his exposure to the Mueller probe.
The dysfunction should also concern Trump's supporters, since he is up against the most revered prosecutor of his generation, in Mueller and a team of crack lawyers picked from top blue chip law firms.

Mueller's team is far more expert and experienced than the band of lawyers under special counsel Kenneth Starr who drove the impeachment of President Bill Clinton in the 1990s for instance.
The competency of Trump's team came into focus after a weekend of ill-advised tweets and an explosive interview with Axios by Trump's personal attorney John Dowd on Monday.
One now notorious tweet issued from the President's account said that he had no choice but to fire Flynn because he had lied to Vice President Mike Pence and the FBI.
Trump critics pounced, arguing that if he knew that Flynn had lied, and subsequently leaned on Comey to go easy on Flynn as the former FBI director reported under oath, he may have obstructed justice.
CNN on Monday reported that White House counsel Donald McGahn told Trump he believed Flynn had not told the truth in his interview with the FBI or to Pence. McGahn did not tell the President that Flynn had violated the law in his FBI interview or was under criminal investigation, a source said.
Dowd eventually copped to the tweet that set off the firestorm, but suspicions lingered that Trump played a bigger role in the episode than has so far been revealed.
Then on Monday, Dowd told Axios in an interview that the President, by dint of his Constitutional authority, could not by definition obstruct justice.

An arcane legal argument turned into a political disaster, as news shows recalled disgraced President Richard Nixon's comment: "When the President does it, that means that it is not illegal."
It was also pointed out that both Nixon and President Bill Clinton were accused of obstruction in Articles of Impeachment framed against them.
Dowd's contemporaries vouched for his legal acumen. But most argued that he had made a mistake, or what CNN's senior legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin, coining a non-legal term, called "a big mess."

Dowd's comments begged a damaging question that drove a day of bad headlines: Was his argument motivated by a conclusion that Trump had indeed obstructed justice?
Michael Hayden, the former director of the CIA and the National Security Agency, told CNN's "New Day" on Tuesday that the decision by Trump's team to resort to technical arguments may reflect Trump's legal jeopardy.
"When you own the facts, you argue the facts. When you don't own the facts, you argue the law," Hayden, now a CNN national security analyst, said.
"What we have seen since Mike Flynn's guilty plea last Friday is now the administration is trying to argue the law rather argue the facts. To me, that is very revealing of what is happening behind the screens."
Most legal scholars concede that the law is inconclusive on whether a sitting president can be indicted on a criminal charge. But the idea that a President cannot face obstruction of justice charges in an impeachment proceeding run by Congress defies precedent.
Dowd's defenders also point out that in Trump, he hardly has the ideal client, given the President's propensity to stoke political firestorms in a way that could undermine the work of even the most diligent legal team.
Late Monday night, another White House lawyer, Ty Cobb, sought to clean up the apparent disarray inside Trump's legal braintrust, downplaying the idea that questioning whether the president could obstruct justice would be at the center of the team's strategy.
"It's interesting as a technical legal issue, but the president's lawyers intend to present a fact-based defense, not a mere legal defense," Cobb told The Washington Post. "That should resolve things, but we all shall see."

In many ways, the President is responding to a legal challenge with an unrestrained political strategy -- as evidenced by his assaults on the credibility of the FBI and Mueller and his unsubstantiated claim that Hillary Clinton had told far more lies to the FBI than Flynn.
Such an approach may represent an eventual hedge against possible impeachment proceedings and an attempt to bolster support among GOP lawmakers.
But it makes Dowd's job much harder and may explain his missteps.
"I think that's what happens when you conflate being a defense lawyer with being a PR flack," former Watergate prosecutor Richard Ben-Veniste told CNN's Wolf Blitzer on Monday.

Another explanation for Trump's tactics is that they are designed to give ammunition to his media cheerleaders who want to discredit the Mueller probe.
A better legal strategy however, would be to keep quiet.
With that in mind, Ben-Veniste told Blitzer that there was a big fish mounted on the wall of his rec room.
"If he had kept his mouth shut, he wouldn't be there," he quipped.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
  dinsdag 5 december 2017 @ 14:32:40 #183
384435 klappernootopreis
Pleens treens en ottomobile
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Ze WETEN dat Trump niet een persoon is die in staat is om zich te verdedigen. Hij heeft de aard van een schoolbeul die stompen uitdeelt omdat die zo groot is, maar op het moment dat er een jochie zijn getreiter zat is, hem zonder probleem tegen de vlakte kan werken.
Mag ik je vandaag weer eens irriteren?
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Heeft Trump die Russische sancties inmiddels al getekend, trouwens?
Hoeren neuken, nooit meer werken.
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Oeh, vanavond @realDonaldTrump maar weer eens biijlezen dan. Dat zal wel weer een orgie van frustratie en wartaal worden :D
Nu is het tijd om de democratie te verdedigen.
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 5 december 2017 14:53 schreef BlackLining het volgende:
Oeh, vanavond @realDonaldTrump maar weer eens biijlezen dan. Dat zal wel weer een orgie van frustratie en wartaal worden :D
Hoe feller hij tweet, hoe meer hij zich in een hoek gedrukt voelt. Zag je ook destijds bij Comey. Vormt enige graadmeter.
  dinsdag 5 december 2017 @ 15:02:51 #187
384435 klappernootopreis
Pleens treens en ottomobile
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1s.gif Op dinsdag 5 december 2017 14:55 schreef westwoodblvd het volgende:

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Hoe feller hij tweet, hoe meer hij zich in een hoek gedrukt voelt. Zag je ook destijds bij Comey. Vormt enige graadmeter.
Met het verschil dat Mueller geen krimp zal geven. Gaat nog leuk worden... :D
Mag ik je vandaag weer eens irriteren?
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5s.gif Op dinsdag 5 december 2017 14:34 schreef Ludachrist het volgende:
Heeft Trump die Russische sancties inmiddels al getekend, trouwens?
Volgens mij niet nee. Ze zijn aan het rekken bij het State Dept.
Die Würde des Menschen ist unantastbar. Sie zu achten und zu schützen ist Verpflichtung aller staatlichen Gewalt.
  dinsdag 5 december 2017 @ 15:10:43 #189
65394 Montov
Dogmaticus Irritantus
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Wel getekend, maar niet geïmplementeerd toch?
Géén kloon van tvlxd!
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 5 december 2017 14:18 schreef Mike het volgende:
Dit zal vanavond ook nog wel even scheve blikken veroorzaken in het Witte huis:

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Hoeveel zouden die donoren bieden om hem nu op te laten stappen? Kunnen we niet een soort wereldwijde crowdfunding actie opzetten? We weten dat Trump een hebberig mannetje is, hoeveel zou genoeg zijn?
  Overall beste user 2022 dinsdag 5 december 2017 @ 15:27:28 #191
3928 Ulx
you aint no punk you punk
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Ik vind het wel mooi dat bij elk succesje dat Trump gehaald denkt te hebben Robert Mueller het feestje gelijk komt verzieken.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 5 december 2017 14:18 schreef Mike het volgende:
Dit zal vanavond ook nog wel even scheve blikken veroorzaken in het Witte huis:

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Ik lees toch wat anders in het artikel van The Atlantic. Trump was er bij toen Priebus opperde om hem als kandidaat te vervangen door Pence en Rice. Trump wist dat hij ernstig onder druk stond na het lekken van de tape. Pence heeft geen geheim plot gesmeed. Hij heeft gewoon aangegeven er klaar voor te zijn.
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Hier kan wel een gezellig (en on-topic!) kerstmuziekje bij. :Y

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On the first day of Christmas (note: "Christmas", not "Holidays") Bob Mueller gave to me...


...a Michael Flynn guilty plea!
  Redactie Games dinsdag 5 december 2017 @ 15:47:42 #194
436761 crew  Puddington
Ja, die nerd!
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thehill twitterde op dinsdag 05-12-2017 om 03:10:05 JUST IN: RNC reinstates support for Roy Moore after Trump endorsement https://t.co/pYrh9MhA6R https://t.co/pX8V9gtL0d reageer retweet
GOP is nu gewoon Vereniging Martijn.
Don't weep for the stupid, you'll be crying all day
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Ze weten echt van gekkigheid niet meer wat ze moeten doen. :{
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 5 december 2017 15:47 schreef Puddington het volgende:
thehill twitterde op dinsdag 05-12-2017 om 03:10:05 JUST IN: RNC reinstates support for Roy Moore after Trump endorsement https://t.co/pYrh9MhA6R https://t.co/pX8V9gtL0d reageer retweet
GOP is nu gewoon Vereniging Martijn.
Whehe. Die schamen zich ook nergens meer voor.
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 5 december 2017 15:10 schreef Montov het volgende:
Wel getekend, maar niet geïmplementeerd toch?
Ah klopt. De administratie probeert de implementatie te rekken.
Die Würde des Menschen ist unantastbar. Sie zu achten und zu schützen ist Verpflichtung aller staatlichen Gewalt.
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 5 december 2017 15:47 schreef Puddington het volgende:
thehill twitterde op dinsdag 05-12-2017 om 03:10:05 JUST IN: RNC reinstates support for Roy Moore after Trump endorsement https://t.co/pYrh9MhA6R https://t.co/pX8V9gtL0d reageer retweet
GOP is nu gewoon Vereniging Martijn.
Echte Christenen O+
ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
  Redactie Games dinsdag 5 december 2017 @ 15:55:41 #199
436761 crew  Puddington
Ja, die nerd!
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17s.gif Op dinsdag 5 december 2017 15:53 schreef xpompompomx het volgende:

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Echte Christenen O+
Ach ja, allebei de organisaties hebben kleine kindertjes aan het kruis (pun intended).
Don't weep for the stupid, you'll be crying all day
  dinsdag 5 december 2017 @ 16:28:35 #200
187810 Szura
Kijk eens aan!
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/938062179542224897
Ojee dit kan hij niet verdragen hoor
Lekker zuipen, lekker dansen en daarna lekker neuken.
  Overall beste user 2022 dinsdag 5 december 2017 @ 16:33:57 #201
3928 Ulx
you aint no punk you punk
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 5 december 2017 15:47 schreef Puddington het volgende:
thehill twitterde op dinsdag 05-12-2017 om 03:10:05 JUST IN: RNC reinstates support for Roy Moore after Trump endorsement https://t.co/pYrh9MhA6R https://t.co/pX8V9gtL0d reageer retweet
GOP is nu gewoon Vereniging Martijn.
NAMBLA!
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 5 december 2017 16:33 schreef Ulx het volgende:

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NAMBLA!
NAMGLA in dit geval.
Volkorenbrood: "Geen quotes meer in jullie sigs gaarne."
  Overall beste user 2022 dinsdag 5 december 2017 @ 16:37:14 #203
3928 Ulx
you aint no punk you punk
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 5 december 2017 16:35 schreef Monolith het volgende:

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NAMGLA in dit geval.
Bij fanatieke anti-homo-mannen ben ik daar nooit zo zeker van.
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
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Conyers houdt het voor gezien in ieder geval:

https://www.washingtonpos(...)m_term=.520f7a477528

En een nieuwe defense voor Moore:

http://nymag.com/daily/in(...)okesperson-says.html

"Er zijn ook heel veel vrouwen die *geen* klacht tegen Roy hebben ingediend..." _O-

[ Bericht 20% gewijzigd door Knipoogje op 05-12-2017 17:41:37 ]
beter een knipoog dan een blauw oog
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Maar er zijn toch ook veel mannen die niet over Moore hebben geklaagd... bewijst dat dan dat hij niet homoseksueel is? :{

Of juist weer wel? :{

(Moeilijk hoor, al die juridische praat.)
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Deutsche Bank gets subpoena from Mueller on Trump accounts: source

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A U.S. federal investigator probing alleged Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election asked Deutsche Bank (DBKGn.DE) for data on accounts held by President Donald Trump and his family, a person close to the matter said on Tuesday.

Germany’s largest bank received a subpoena from Special Counsel Robert Mueller several weeks ago to provide information on certain money and credit transactions, the person said, without giving details, adding key documents had been handed over in the meantime.

Deutsche Bank, which has loaned the Trump organization hundreds of millions of dollars for real estate ventures, said it would not comment on any of its clients.

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“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 5 december 2017 11:48 schreef Szura het volgende:
Zowel Trump als Mueller op de shortlist van Time :P. Verder ook:
- Jeff Bezos (Amazon)
- De dreamers
- Patty Jenkins (Wonder Woman)
- Kim Jong-Un
- Colin Kaepernick (quarterback NFL die knielde)
- MeToo-beweging
- Saudische kroonprins Mohammed bin Salman
- Xi Jinping
Doe dan Kim Jong-Un maar heeft hij weer wat te Twitteren
Op woensdag 31 januari 2007 19:20 schreef Lord_Vetinari het volgende:
Ik heb veel stomme posts gezien op fora, maar deze zit toch wel in de top 10 (voorzichtig geschat; het kan ook de top 5 zijn). Nou ik sta iig in zijn top 10
  dinsdag 5 december 2017 @ 18:39:00 #208
44703 ExtraWaskracht
Laat maar lekker draaien
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Mike kwam er net mee: The Guardian durft zelfs wat verder te gaan, Mueller heeft de informatie al gekregen: https://www.theguardian.c(...)-over-robert-mueller
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Abbas en de andere leiders in de omgeving gebeld om de intentie om Jeruzalem als hoofdstad van Israël te erkennen en de ambassade te (gaan) verhuizen mede te delen.
Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem.
Far across the moonbeam I know that's who you are
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0s.gif Op dinsdag 5 december 2017 18:39 schreef nostra het volgende:
Abbas en de andere leiders in de omgeving gebeld om de intentie om Jeruzalem als hoofdstad van Israël te erkennen en de ambassade te (gaan) verhuizen mede te delen.
Pff dat zal echt meehelpen aan de vrede in het Midden-Oosten :')
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”— Bertrand Russell
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